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Remote Costal Route, Asuncion Area

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 12:54 PM

GE shows a very remote route along the coast SW & W, directly out of San Rougue? This route, which does not show on any maps, looks like it would be epic if doable.

Anyone know it this is passible and if so how rough. We will be visiting on motorcycles over the holidays.

Bruce

[Edited on 12-13-2013 by mcnut]

Timo1 - 12-13-2013 at 01:07 PM

If it's the road out of SR going up to Tortugas it's gated and locked

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Timo1
If it's the road out of SR going up to Tortugas it's gated and locked


Thanks any intel is helpful, to be clear I'm referring to the route on the coast right from the SW end of San Roque, not the route N out of town over/around the hill or the route N on the E side of SR.

I have seen the photo of a cable across the N route.

Bruce

Bajaboy - 12-13-2013 at 02:11 PM

There is the vigilancia road which is not locked or gated. I run it all the time. A few areas of soft sand but no big deal. We're only talking about 6-7 miles though until you get to town. Let me know if you need any more info.

shari - 12-13-2013 at 02:11 PM

there are several visible roads on the satellite in the area from Tortugas to Asuncion but many of these are gated by the fishing cooperativas to keep poachers out. It is possible to contact the coops and arrange for them to open the gates...(in a perfect world) but maybe real difficult to coordinate.

Stop in for lunch here and a cold one! There is a cool road going south along the coast towards Abreojos that is on the edge of the ocean you access after passing Punta Prieta... hop onto it at the end of town and it goes along the coast, past the lighthouse and into San Hipolito...if you time it right at a low tide, it's awesome to take the stretch from San Hipolito to La Bocana on the beach...gotta be low tide though. Have a great trip. In case you run into any difficulties our cel # is 615-155-7197...have it on you just in case!

David K - 12-13-2013 at 02:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcnut
GE shows a very remote route along the coast SW & W, directly out of San Rougue? This route, which does not show on any maps, looks like it would be epic if doable.

Anyone know it this is passible and if so how rough. We will be visiting on motorcycles over the holidays.

Bruce

[Edited on 12-13-2013 by mcnut]


The overall area of discussion... San Roque is to the west (left) of Bahia Asuncion:



Here is the 2003 Baja Almanac close up, showing a road out from San Roque to the west towards San Pablo, with a branch north to San Andres:

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 02:46 PM

Thanks guys! Great response, forums can be a little slow on a Friday, not this one.

Shari, I was hoping you would jump in and thanks for the suggestion. My interest in the area is driven by the improvements in accommodations/restaurants/road we have seen and heard of in Vizcanino, Asuncion, Bocana & Abreojos. We pull a 22' travel trailer by PU with several bikes in back and do mostly day trips on the bikes. I don't think GN need to be a stopover, there are other better options now.

I know many of the riders/offroaders would love to learn of scenic and less traveled routes in the area to break up some of the longer washboard main roads at least that is the quest.

Bruce

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 02:56 PM

Now were talking, David K to the courtesy desk!

The area of interest is from San Roque along the coast to or a little past C.Prieto on David's lower map. It doesn't look far on the map but one look in GE and it looks amazing, cliffs, dunes, arroyos, beaches.

I haven't signed up to a photo hosting site yet so no way to post the GE image with my superimposed route possibilities.

Bruce

shari - 12-13-2013 at 03:00 PM

Great...now that the road from Vizcaino to Asuncion is paved with ne'er a pothole now...it's easy for the trailer to get here, the riders can have showers, get a good sleep, chow down some great grub...lobster dinners can be catered to you too! There is a cool road if you take the back road from Tortugas south, head towards the coast at San Andreas...real rough but a dirt bike could make it...comes out in San Roque.

David K - 12-13-2013 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by mcnut
Now were talking, David K to the courtesy desk!

The area of interest is from San Roque along the coast to or a little past C.Prieto on David's lower map. It doesn't look far on the map but one look in GE and it looks amazing, cliffs, dunes, arroyos, beaches.

I haven't signed up to a photo hosting site yet so no way to post the GE image with my superimposed route possibilities.

Bruce


It is real easy... just my instructions make it seem worse! LOL

Join Photobucket.com (free), create an album (make albums for each subject so finding the photos in the future is easier), PLEASE set the upload size to no more than 800 pixels (that is full size for Baja Nomad). Then paste the IMG link in your Nomad posts (double space between photo links).

If you need help, or can't find the step-by-step posted, let me know... I am here to help anyone have a great time... It's the next best thing to being in Baja, for me!

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 03:17 PM

Is there a place to camp with the trailer where we can feel OK about leaving it unattended for a day or even overnight? We had always talked about camping in Vizcaino as the road was bad but now......

Shari, I know of your B&B as it is showing up in more and more trip reports, looks wonderful.

In the past we have mostly looked for looping routes but have opened my mind to down & back options. Among those on the list are San Francisco de la Sierria (now 100% paved?), Agua Verde (soon to be paved) and Los Dolores via San Luis Gonzaga or San Evaristo if Los Dolores is to rough.

Bruce

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[Edited on 12-13-2013 by mcnut]

rts551 - 12-13-2013 at 03:27 PM

Fishin Rich and I took the old road (could be the one on the 2003 map but on my older map) from San Roque to Tortugas on our quads. The road we took was only passable by bike/4x4 quad or the most hardiest of short wheel base 4x4s (no toyotas need apply). There were a couple of areas the road had been eroded to the point of being a waterfall during the wet season. BUT wel wort the trip.

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 03:39 PM

See if this works;

The big picture.

http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/mcnut_bruce/library/

Zoomed in a little.

http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/mcnut_bruce/media/SanRoque...

First try at posting pics.

Bruce

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 03:43 PM

Well almost worked, not sure how to get the jpg to open in the post. I think I also created an issue by importing into photobucket a new img after copying a link to the first, result same photo X2.

Bruce

David K - 12-13-2013 at 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by mcnut
Well almost worked, not sure how to get the jpg to open in the post. I think I also created an issue by importing into photobucket a new img after copying a link to the first, result same photo X2.

Bruce


You need to copy and paste the IMG link... here it is:

Mexitron - 12-13-2013 at 03:59 PM

I've taken the road from San Roque north over the coastal hills and down the dunes into Bahia San Pablo---no problem except kind of gnarly in a couple spots ---driving along sand dune cliffs 15 feet high undercut by wave action--never know if the road will collapse under the weight of the truck. Roads drops onto beach then picks up again going up a canyon. Coastal road heads north to Cerro Prieto along bluff but when we tried it a few years ago had been washed out...

shari - 12-13-2013 at 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by mcnut
Is there a place to camp with the trailer where we can feel OK about leaving it unattended for a day or even overnight? We had always talked about camping in Vizcaino as the road was bad but now......


You can leave the trailer in Campo Sirena, at the beach, close to restaurants & stores, it's very safe with neighbors right there to keep an eye on things..come on in! Let me know if you want to arrange a dinner and how many people...there are a couple new restaurants too that are great! We have two 3 bedroom houses right in the camp that can sleep a bunch of riders too if they want a good nights sleep in a bed....sounds like a party!

[Edited on 12-13-2013 by shari]

woody with a view - 12-13-2013 at 04:09 PM

^^^what Shari said^^^

you will feel welcomed in town and no riff raff while you're away.

rts551 - 12-13-2013 at 04:25 PM

How much is Campo Sirena now?

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 04:40 PM

Thanks David, Shari and others.

Mexitron, we exchanged a couple posts on TT (BDM), nothing better then a first hand account. Your track is the basically the purple and then north.

I think it looks real trick be it jeeps, motorbikes, ATVs or even horse/mule and likely see whales passing by.

Bruce

[Edited on 12-13-2013 by mcnut]

shari - 12-13-2013 at 05:05 PM

price is the same as it always was at Campo Sirena, $10 for tents, $12 truck campers & vans, $15 for RV's. There is electricity, bathroom, shower, laundry, wifi, dogs roaming around...you know...the usual.:lol:

David K - 12-13-2013 at 05:24 PM

Sounds wonderful... and having stayed with Shari and Juan at Bahia Asuncion twice, I can tell you the hospitality is tops... and no drama allowed! :biggrin:

What happens in Asuncion stays there....

woody with a view - 12-13-2013 at 05:31 PM

USUALLY!!!!



[Edited on 12-14-2013 by woody with a view]

Russ - 12-13-2013 at 05:42 PM

Don't forget the ride over to Malarimo (sp). That was really a great ride once we got of the main road. There are a lot of trails to explore out there too. We did it in a fast day but wished we'd taken camp gear.

rts551 - 12-13-2013 at 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by shari
price is the same as it always was at Campo Sirena, $10 for tents, $12 truck campers & vans, $15 for RV's. There is electricity, bathroom, shower, laundry, wifi, dogs roaming around...you know...the usual.:lol:


Thank you

David K - 12-13-2013 at 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Fishin Rich and I took the old road (could be the one on the 2003 map but on my older map) from San Roque to Tortugas on our quads. The road we took was only passable by bike/4x4 quad or the most hardiest of short wheel base 4x4s (no toyotas need apply). There were a couple of areas the road had been eroded to the point of being a waterfall during the wet season. BUT wel wort the trip.


It is nice to hear of Fishin' Rich... fun guy... camped with my kids and I in the desert, and he and I toured Guadalupe along with elgatoloco and DavidE...

My daughter sure liked his doggie 'Roja'! Be cool if he posted again... If anyone wanted one of my old 'Viva Baja' stickers, he had a bunch of them! :lol:

mcnut - 12-13-2013 at 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Russ
Don't forget the ride over to Malarimo (sp). That was really a great ride once we got of the main road. There are a lot of trails to explore out there too. We did it in a fast day but wished we'd taken camp gear.


Thanks for the post, maybe do the loop west of Malarrimo!

Bruce

rts551 - 12-13-2013 at 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
Fishin Rich and I took the old road (could be the one on the 2003 map but on my older map) from San Roque to Tortugas on our quads. The road we took was only passable by bike/4x4 quad or the most hardiest of short wheel base 4x4s (no toyotas need apply). There were a couple of areas the road had been eroded to the point of being a waterfall during the wet season. BUT wel wort the trip.


It is nice to hear of Fishin' Rich... fun guy... camped with my kids and I in the desert, and he and I toured Guadalupe along with elgatoloco and DavidE...

My daughter sure liked his doggie 'Roja'! Be cool if he posted again... If anyone wanted one of my old 'Viva Baja' stickers, he had a bunch of them! :lol:


He is doing fine.

[Edited on 12-14-2013 by rts551]