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Teaching positions in Baja in the past

BajaBlanca - 2-11-2014 at 07:14 PM

I went to an all day primary and secondary school workshop in Vizcaino, it was very interesting and I finally, after 2 years, got some excellent English books for the class. Please don't ask me to tell you about the old ones, it just makes me mad.

BUT,

the amazing fact I learned is that before this new reforma came about that made all the Mexican teachers get their knickers in a twist, every teacher in every public school "owned" his or her position and could will it, literally, to whomever they wanted. Can you believe that? I have to say that that is a first I had ever heard of this.

I was also told that teachers retirements are now a savings account where the gvt will deposit double the amount teachers set aside for retirement.

I learn something every day!

grace59 - 2-11-2014 at 08:11 PM

This is the case not only in Baja, but throughout Mexico. I was amazed to learn this. I was talking this past Sunday to my Son-in-law who is from Mexico City and he told me that the teachers in Mexico are up in arms because Mexico wants teachers to take a test to prove that they are qualified to hold their positions! He told me that teacher positions can be bought, sold, willed, given to someone! Wow!

mtgoat666 - 2-11-2014 at 08:21 PM

Teachers have long held Mexico back. Sad.

What ever happened to Gordillo?

David K - 2-11-2014 at 11:59 PM

Is it really so much different than in the USA where paying union dues guarantees you a job, no matter how many kids fail to learn? There are really awesome teachers out there too, and they deserve the highest pay, not always the ones with seniority.

Dave - 2-12-2014 at 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Is it really so much different than in the USA


Yes, David, it is very much different.

David K - 2-12-2014 at 12:27 AM

Well hi there amigo... where you been? I have missed those great pastrami sandwiches for the Nueva York Deli!

BajaBlanca - 2-12-2014 at 10:35 AM

See, I never knew it could be bought hahahahaha Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.

jbcoug - 2-12-2014 at 03:21 PM

Since I'm getting ready to retire, I wish I could sell my position. A little extra cash for Baja tripping would be nice.

chippy - 2-12-2014 at 03:32 PM

Thats why anybody with two pesos to rub together would never put their kids in public school. You can go thru the public school system and never learn to read or write. The teachers give everyone passing grades so they get a better rating. Its as corrupt as anything in Mexico maybe more.

[Edited on 2-13-2014 by chippy]

BajaBlanca - 2-12-2014 at 04:30 PM

Chippy is right. When I taught at the high school a couple years ago, I tried to flunk a girl whose dad was apparently influential and was gently told to change the grade.

So, I did. But those students (she wasn't the only one), had to work so hard at a ridiculously long ridiculously boring task in order to pass that I saw the girl wrote on facebook that she would never not study for the test again.


Sawwwweeeeet revenge. (((:

mtgoat666 - 2-12-2014 at 04:32 PM

it's a huge problem. countries with a well educated populace succeed. countries with poorly educated people do not succeed.

EngineerMike - 2-14-2014 at 02:12 PM

I get to spend a good amount of time with school officials in Mulege a couple times a year. They complain a lot about the quality of education for their kids.

I've seen more than one family move to get their kids a better education. I guess there are private schools in larger towns, but I'm told by expat teachers who worked in one elite school (either La Paz or Cabo) that the elitist attitude of parents and students was deplorable. Kids tattled on teachers that wanted to instill study discipline, which teachers were then threatened w/their jobs if they didn't make the kids 'Happy.' Its nice that kids be happy. Better if they get educated. IMHO.