"Sharing With Law Enforcement" part bothers me. Below is a cut and paste article. You can bet your biggest fat burro the CBP lines are going to look
like eyes of a spider with these critters mounted everywhere.
Homeland Security to Activate ‘National License Plate Recognition Database’
The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones' Facebook Infowars store
UK version of spy system was used to target political activists
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 13, 2014
The Department of Homeland Security is set to activate a national license plate tracking system that will be shared with law enforcement, allowing DHS
officers to take photos of any license plate using their smartphone and upload it to a database which will include a “hot list” of “target vehicles”.
Image: License Plate Scanning Camera (Wikimedia Commons).
The details are included in a PDF attachment uploaded yesterday to the Federal Business Opportunities website under a solicitation entitled “National
License Plate Recognition Database.”
The system will “track vehicle license plate numbers that pass through cameras or are voluntarily entered into the system from a variety of sources
(access control systems, asset recovery specialists, etc.) and uploaded to share with law enforcement” in order to help locate “criminal aliens and
absconders.”
In other countries that have activated license plate tracking networks, such as the United Kingdom, political activists have been targeted by having
their vehicles added to a “hotlist” after attending protests. One example led to a man being questioned under anti-terror laws after he traveled to
take part in an anti-war demonstration.
As the image above illustrates, the cameras are also used by local governments in Australia to keep records of people who violate parking
restrictions. Critics of the system in Australia have condemned it as “a Pandora’s box for abuse of power, mistakes and illegal disclosure,” stressing
that the technology allows authorities to record “your number plate at a certain time and location,” allowing police to “compile an extraordinary
amount of data about you. This includes your name, address, contact details, driving history and licence status.”
“Innocent people are increasingly being treated with suspicion due to the tiny chance that some offence may be committed,” writes David Jancik.
The DHS’ database will allow authorities “to determine where and when the vehicle has traveled,” using data compiled “from a variety of sources
nationwide,” including “metropolitan areas” within the United States, suggesting the system may be linked in with regular surveillance cameras as it
is in the UK.
The system will also allow DHS officials to take a picture of any license plate via their smartphone, upload it to the database and immediately
receive an alert if the plate is on the watchlist.
“The NLPR data service should provide details on clarity of photos provided. The Government would prefer a close-up of the plate and a zoomed out
image of the vehicle,” states the solicitation.
The system must also have the capability to “flag license plates and conduct searches anonymously so that other law enforcement agencies may not have
access.”
Given rampant concerns that the Department of Homeland Security, which is ostensibly introducing this system in the name of catching illegal aliens,
is in fact an increasingly bloated federal bureaucracy designed to target the American people, the notion of the DHS enjoying access to a fully
integrated nationwide license plate tracking grid is chilling, especially given the fact that the agency has funded reports which characterize
“liberty lovers” as potential terrorists.
The DHS also recently awarded the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority $7 million dollars to outfit its buses with high tech 360 degree
surveillance cameras. The federal agency is simultaneously supporting the rollout of ‘Intellistreets’ lighting systems that double as surveillance
hubs which can record conversations.
“Do not kid yourself. This is tracking of an individual that can be accessed at a whim,” writes James Smith. “Yearly, officers are terminated for
accessing the LEDS/NCIC database for looking into the histories of ex-lovers, future spouses, and potential sons/daughters-in-law. And with license
plate tracking toy (not a tool), they will know where you are, as long as you have driven into the cross hairs of this new weapon for tyranny.”
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chuckie - 2-13-2014 at 05:09 PM
"Some one to watch over me" Doris Day?Marc - 2-13-2014 at 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by chuckie
"Some one to watch over me" Doris Day?
they can snap my plate anytime. i doubt they will find out where we roll, unless a drone is overhead....CortezBlue - 2-13-2014 at 08:22 PM
As interesting as this is, if it comes for Alex Jones, I wouldn't go into "The Sky Is Falling" mode. Jones tends go over the edge pretty fast.
Besides, I imagine this has been around in some form for quite some time.
big brother
captkw - 2-13-2014 at 08:46 PM
after spending the day wor ing on a1923 T-Bucket roadster I climped into my custermer tocoma to pull dLC'S (trouble codes) and the radio came on so I
turned to my local AM Talkshow...The host who is rather conserveative was asking/talking about the stats of 2013 of folks from the USA whom turned in
their citizenship (3000) last year and a older gal named Elma said that folks are tired of losing their rights and freedoms on almost a daily
basis...I called in and expressed that I know a Lot of Expats and I free a lot more free in mexico and would any day of the week, would rather get
pulled over by a cop in mex than whats left of the USA.....K&Tbajaguy - 2-13-2014 at 09:19 PM
Yup......some states were using a form of this for mobile emission control checks. Set up a sensor and a camera....if the vehicle was a polluter,
plate was recorder and registered owner was sent a notice to bring the vehicle in for an in-station test
Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
As interesting as this is, if it comes for Alex Jones, I wouldn't go into "The Sky Is Falling" mode. Jones tends go over the edge pretty fast.
Besides, I imagine this has been around in some form for quite some time.
KaceyJ - 2-14-2014 at 08:54 AM
Interesting article David
I think Lic plate recog has been in use a long time near the frontera and now it's creeping into nation wide use. A while back there was a lot of talk
about San Diego police having scanner cameras on their cars that monitor all lic. plates as they move around.
What I kind of find funny/ironic in the article are the parts about people in the Uk and Australia complaining about these things. I only can think
why bother? -you already let your Gov take your guns
Here's a link to an interesting PBS video that's kind of related---gives you a good idea of some of the technology already in use
(Capt.-- you may not want to watch this)
As fast as they're catching a lot of hit and runs and solving crimes these days I suspect, unknown to the public, this technology is already in use.
[Edited on 2-14-2014 by KaceyJ]sancho - 2-14-2014 at 12:15 PM
Does'nt seem THAT long ago, when you would pull up
to the Customs Booth coming back, the only thing
they asked wqs what country you are a citizen ofDavidE - 2-14-2014 at 12:25 PM
I'll NEVER forget Dick Cheney's quip right after the 9/11 attack...
"We have to work quickly on this and take maximum advantage of it"
As said to George dubbya...
Those who aren't UP to SOMETHING
MrBillM - 2-14-2014 at 01:20 PM
Need not worry.
If MY plate information is shared with L-E.
No Problema.
If MY Pic is run through facial-recognition software and shared.
No Problema.
THOSE who WOULD have a Problem .................... We should hope are CAUGHT.DavidE - 2-14-2014 at 04:11 PM
Ever sorta sometimes sorta forget to pay a parking ticket?
Never EVER EVER EVER EVER speed, let your left side tires touch the center solid yellow line? See a stop sign just in time to stop three feet beyond
the magic line?
Drones and cameras could award you a cyber golden star for being perfect. The PRIME DIRECTIVE of regulations is revenue enhancement.Gulliver - 2-14-2014 at 05:18 PM
Without privacy there is no freedom.
Well Said !!
captkw - 2-14-2014 at 09:37 PM
Perfect answer !@!!.......About the only answer that's correct !!KaceyJ - 2-15-2014 at 09:15 AM
here's another good link to see just what might be watching you right now
let it load , rotate the west coast to the center of your screen and slowly zoom in
I plead guilty as charged....Bajajorge - 2-15-2014 at 10:46 AM
Is an expired license plate considered a terrorist act?chuckie - 2-15-2014 at 10:52 AM
Barbra, it was Barbra..not Doris day...Cisco - 2-15-2014 at 11:31 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Gulliver
Without privacy there is no freedom.
"A massive data collection operation is underway in San Diego county to store and search millions of photographs. The photos are being taken by
license plate reading cameras mounted on law enforcement vehicles all across the county.
The San Diego County Sheriff's Department currently has license plate cameras mounted on more than 50 vehicles.
"You can run two to three thousand license plates a day," said Deputy Sheriff Scott Roller during a demonstration drive.
In less than a second the license plate is checked against a database of stolen and wanted vehicles.
"It takes a picture and then analyses the image it received to see if it is indeed a license plate," explained Deputy Roller.
But the system does more than just scan license plates in real time. It also stores license plate photos for up to two years, keeping track of the
date, time of day and the GPS location of the scanned vehicles.
"It's a great tool for crime prevention to track down known offenders," according to Sheriff Commander David Myers.
Detectives can access the database and find out exactly where that vehicle – and theoretically it's driver – has been over the past two years.
Investigators can also use the license plate database to locate potential witnesses.
"Let's say we're at a homicide scene, responding units are arriving and other vehicles are leaving, which may have nothing to do with what happened
but could be witnesses later on," said Myers. "It allows us an opportunity to see who was in an area at a certain time."
"We have very strict guidelines within the Sheriff's Department about accessing; who can access, when it can be accessed and how it can be used," said
Myers.
"It's not used to spy on anybody. We don't drive into people's garages. We don't drive into their backyards. We drive on public roads and public
freeways," said Myers.
The license plate database --- maintained by the San Diego Association of Governments (SANDAG) -- is stored on computer servers in Arizona and
currently has 49 million local entries. On average, that's more than 25 photos for every vehicle registered in San Diego County.
San Diego entrepreneur Michael Robertson wants to know how many images of his own vehicle the government has collected and stored.
"They're building a secret file on you, where you go, what you do, where you travel, where you visit, where you recreate; and they can use it if
they're so inclined," Robertson said.
Robertson has filed a lawsuit against SANDAG because the agency won't give him access to photos of his own vehicle under a public records request.
"When we asked them, which law enforcement agencies are accessing this data and how often, they said they don't have any records of that, which is
preposterous," said Robertson.
In the San Francisco Bay area, one man discovered the government had collected about a hundred images of his vehicle using license plate readers,
including a photo taken in his driveway showing his children jumping out of the back seat of his car.
"These cameras don't just track you while you're driving," said Robertson. "They actually look in people's driveways. They look in parking lots of
stores. They look at church parking lots, any place people gather and park their cars."
Most police agencies in San Diego County are now using license plate readers and there are plans to combine the database with other regional agencies.
"It's only a matter of time before they decide they want to target all the people that go to medical marijuana dispensaries, or they want to target
all the people that go to a Tea Party rally, or you name it," Robertson said. "
SANDAG emailed CBS News 8 the following statement:
"The Regional License Plate Reader (LPR) Program adheres to stringent federal and state regulations protecting the confidentiality of criminal justice
data. The authorized law enforcement officials who query the LPR database must meet California Department of Justice and FBI certification
requirements to be granted access to the secure system. All queries must contain a reason for the search (e.g., tied to a specific case or
investigation), and all queries result in an audit trail. A license plate is assigned to a vehicle, and the registration information associated with
that vehicle is not part of the LPR record, nor can it be accessed through the LPR system. There is nothing within an LPR record that identifies a
person."
If a law enforcement officer needed to obtain the name of the registered owner of a particular license plate, that information would be accessed
through the Department of Motor Vehicles, not SANDAG."
Although I had Googled San Diego readers I find additional information including permanent mount plate readers on interstates throughout California
and other states.
An ACLU article regarding another diminished right and other state information here.
This all seems to go along with the information gathering apparatus we have recently become aware of.
A commenter wrote on one of these sites:
"Now I wonder what became of the general thought behind "better dead than red". It was a way of restating "give me liberty or give me death". Now it
has been replaced with "give me a feeling of safety and the illusion that I am assured longevity; I do not care about living it free so long as I just
go on living".chuckie - 2-15-2014 at 05:50 PM
Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees....Emiliano Zapata?
Being Watched ................
MrBillM - 2-16-2014 at 04:07 PM
OFTEN makes for better Behavior.
Personally speaking.
Since Red-Light signals have become more and more common locally, I approach them carefully, make sure that I don't cross the line when
stopping AND prudently stop completely before a Right-Turn.
AND, where I KNOW CCTV is in use at stores or elsewhere, I make it a point to act accordingly.
We should WELCOME enhanced surveillance as an opportunity to improve.maspacifico - 2-16-2014 at 04:27 PM
Bill likes to be watched.. jejeje
MISS bILL
captkw - 2-16-2014 at 11:15 PM
Are you a GOV troll or what ??? this checking/watching folks every movements and actions is why folks that used to be free are no longer free but
think that the USA is the Greatest.......used to to be but no longer is the case...A Sad state of Affairs....God Bless The USA...she needs all the
help she can get,,,Today...Ohh...And by the way....Three modern skyskypapers biuldings come down on 9/11 with two jets....Just watching that boob
tube will keep you informed and you will know Nothing about the real world !!! F-Off Mr bill...your sickness is not wanted here !!!
Feeling Unwanted
MrBillM - 2-17-2014 at 11:15 AM
Being unappreciated by CaptKook and the rest of the Black-Helicopter-Watch Brigade is not surprising.
It's interesting that some think ME Paranoid.
I seem to be the least of the Paranoids. Perhaps because (unlike some here) I'm not anticipating doing ANYTHING that, if caught on video in PUBLIC, I
would be concerned about.
As noted, I have the feeling that those who ARE overly-concerned are likely up to no good and SHOULD be caught at it.
My suggestion IS:
ASSUME that you ARE on Video EVERY moment you're in public and act accordingly.
You AND the rest of us will be better off.
BTW, with the price coming down so much, I just ordered a (4 Camera) CCTV system for the home.
With all the strange people out there who SHOULD be watched, it's a cheap investment.
Staying Honest
MrBillM - 2-17-2014 at 12:01 PM
Using the "Keeping Honest People Honest" argument is an example of deceptive Misquotation or, rather, Misinterpretation in trying to
make a point.
The intent embodied in (various forms of) said quotation is ONLY that Locks, Fences, etc. don't keep away the thieves. That
they simply help the honest to remain so.
In FACT, of course, security devices of ALL types DO deter crime. Only an Idiot (or Liar) would deny that.
The Balance being discussed is ONLY whether or not said surveillance IN PUBLIC would constrain
Liberty in unreasonable proportion to its effectiveness in deterring crime and/or apprehending criminals.
I have seen ZERO evidence of that occurring.
Even should CCTV surveillance use should become more common in such things as traffic enforcement, it would STILL not be an infringement on Liberty IF
the violations were actually committed. There is NO difference in being caught by a camera and being caught by an L-E officer if the offense is
clear-cut.
OBEY the law or accept the consequences.
Without whining.
[Edited on 2-17-2014 by MrBillM]DavidE - 2-17-2014 at 01:08 PM
stub your toe, scream "gosh darnN IT" a hidden microphone picks up your vocal emanation, examines it, identifies you and you get a citation. Not for
profanity but for "Cultural Insensitivity" Some people object to the word "God".
Look, this thing EVENTUALLY is going to become an issue of priorities with priority number two exchanging places with priority number one...
NOW
1. Safety and security
2. Revenue Enhancement
Ever been to traffic court where you are presumed GUILTY until proven innocent? The system is CAREFULLY DESIGNED to thwart those who wish to plead
innocent. Like cases where the accused (cited) MUST WAIT THREE HOURS until all the plead guilty cases are heard.
I was cited for driving 70 in a 55 zone near the Corona. The CHP was a JERK. I made a legal U-Turn, went back to where they had dropped the Speed
Limit Signs with burlap bags tied over the actual sign, took multiple photos, showing, meaning PROVING without a doubt WHERE the signs were located.
A month later THREE HOURS waiting in court. "I rule that there exists NO EVIDENCE of WHEN these photographs were taken". GUILTY!!!!! Pay the bailiff"
I appealed. It cost me four hundred dollars because I had to enlist the services of an attorney. It took them 5 minutes to decide NOT GUILTY.
You take take your hyper surveillance and shove it where the sun don't shine. Enforcement is one thing, skewing justice with revenue enhancement is
another.
And you can bet your sweet assss I endorse red light cameras, as long as IF THE INSTALLATION OF THE CAMERAS DOES NOT COME ALONG WITH SHORTENING THE
LENGTH OF AMBER WARNINGS FROM 5 TO 3 SECONDS.
Get the picture?
Are they watching???
bajaguy - 2-17-2014 at 01:31 PM
Yup
In almost every medium to large store in the US (and Mexico) there are surviellance cameras. Everytime you use a credit or debit card the data is
recorded....even when you do an internet search, someone or something is watching.....and providing pop-up ads directed at YOU
You provide info to various commercial businesses and government agencies almost every day.
Ever submit your income taxes, ever have taxes deducted from your paycheck, ever been in the military, ever applied for a professional license....what
about a drivers license....how about filling out and mailing a "product registration card" for your new blender or maybe customer loyalty cards, or
order anything from Amazon.com.......
Why don't we care about the video surviellance cameras or when they want personal information for a credit card at Target and use that personal
information to target you with sopecific ads based on your purchases???
Your cell phone knows when you cross the border and cell towers track your phone's location every time it is turned on. Google Earth street view looks
at your house and makes the photos public for anybody to see.
The "electronic" age makes it difficult to escape surviellance of any kind............
PS: The city of Poway has removed it's traffic enforcement (red light) cameras
Funnier Than A Sack Full Of Snot
DavidE - 2-17-2014 at 05:08 PM
A Cut & Paste
WASHINGTON -- The Department of Homeland Security is now seeking a vendor to build and operate a smartphone-based national database of vehicle license
plate information that would be shared with law enforcement.
Under the DHS plan, an agent could snap a photo with a smartphone, upload it to the database, and immediately be notified whether the plate is on a
"hot list" of "target vehicles."
"This system is supposed to be for the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement branch of DHS, for the tracking of illegal immigrants," says WTOP National
Security Correspondent J.J. Green.
ICE spokesperson Gillian Christensen tells Federal News Radio, "the database could only be accessed in conjunction with ongoing criminal
investigations."
DHS officially solicited the vendor on the Federal Business Opportunities website, for a National License Plate Recognition Database.
Green says a similar plate recognition system has been in use in the United Kingdom, using an extensive network of closed-circuit television cameras.
"It pretty much catches all the movements of cars, people, buses - pretty much anything that moves, at least in the cities," says Green.
How would the system help?
Homeland Security officials say the use of the database will help agents and officers catch suspects who could pose a public safety threat, and reduce
the man- hours required to conduct surveillance.
According to the solicitation officers would enter the license plate numbers "based on investigative leads to determine where and when the vehicle has
traveled."
The agency says the system would help in locating criminal aliens and absconders "and will enhance officer safety by enabling arrests to occur away
from a subject's residence."
The specifics of how the smartphone application works would be provided by the vendor, although DHS says it is open to a system built around iPhone,
Android or BlackBerry devices.
Are there privacy safeguards?
Some, including the American Civil Liberties Union, are concerned about abusive, invasive, and discriminatory tracking.
Several local police departments in the Washington area use license plate readers, and say they keep the data less than a year.
In a 2013 report entitled "You are being tracked: How license plate readers are being used to record Americans' movements," the ACLU says the
opportunity to misuse the data is large.
"The knowledge that one is subject to constant monitoring can chill the exercise of our cherished rights to free speech and association," according to
the report.
"If not properly secured, license plate reader databases open the door to abusive tracking, enabling anyone with access to pry into the lives of his
boss, his ex- wife, or his romantic, political, or workplace rivals," says the ACLU.
"There are some significant concerns," says WTOP's Green, "and probably rightly so, in light of the Edward Snowden revelations, that it could be used
for something other than what it's intended for."
Green says the increased use of technology in maintaining public safety makes some people nervous.
"You walk out of your house with a smartphone, you're on the grid. You walk to your car, there possibly is a camera that tracks you to your car. You
get in your car, you probably have some sort of WiFi capability in your car, so your car is on the grid. You go into your building there are cameras
in the building."
According to Green, "People are concerned this is going to be another piece of information the government could use to keep tabs on them 24 hours a
day."
"You're just somehow never alone or away from the glaring eyes, in the minds of some, of Big Brother," says Green.
Homeland Security officials say the database would be run by the commercial enterprise and the data would be collected and stored by the enterprise,
not the federal government.
Green expects there would be signage to let people know their license plates might be photographed.
"There are very strict rules for the government to follow," says Green. "The question is, do they always follow them?"
The Mother Land (USA)
captkw - 2-17-2014 at 06:20 PM
Guess what they have,,, that we don't know about ??? Thanks SNOWDON and others !! the war on terreriosm and drugs are a BAD joke on the folks in the
USA....just Like THREE steel reinforced buildings coming down in Freefall in N.Y. city by two jets !!! Keep that TV on !!!And Lets not talk about the
TSA....freedom at its best !!........ Or NORAD standing down for 911 !!!
Be AFRAID
MrBillM - 2-18-2014 at 09:42 AM
Given the outrageous extremes that some here (including CaptKook) anticipate, it's clear that ................
They're NUTS !
When the first of their Doomsday scenarios regarding InnocentsBEGINS to occur, those with a bit of sanity can
BEGIN to worry.
Meanwhile, it seems that those we should worry about is those who are worried.
BTW, A reliable indicator when assessing the Loco factor is ALWAYS the "911 Conspiracy Quakery Quotient".
[Edited on 2-18-2014 by MrBillM]
Opinons are like .............
MrBillM - 2-18-2014 at 10:30 AM
Anuses.
The validity of an opinion would be its relationship to FACTS and EVIDENCE.
Those Kooky opinions that exceed dramatically the boundaries of current evidence should be viewed with doubt.
Until shown otherwise.
ALL SHOOK UP
MrBillM - 2-18-2014 at 11:55 AM
Watching for CaptKook !
IF somebody shows up wearing a cap with a spinning propeller on it, I'll assume that's the Capt.
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