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Today’s Photo – "What Hath God Wrought?"

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:22 AM

A custom addition to this Conception Bay home, this unique railing was a common part of the Baja landscape.

Can you guess what it is? The hint is in the title...



DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 10:26 AM

"Godwood?"

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
"Godwood?"


Hmmm..."Godwood??"....No, but interesting.

Terry28 - 2-17-2014 at 10:31 AM

Cardon??

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Terry28
Cardon??


Nope, not cardon...but getting closer..

Terry28 - 2-17-2014 at 10:33 AM

Iron wood?? also called mountain mahogany?/

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Terry28
Iron wood?? also called mountain mahogany?/


Now you're getting on target, Terry...but the real question is why this was such a noticeable part of the Baja scene?

My bad, I should have been less...'obtuse'. It's not so much as to what type of wood it is, as to 'what' it was.

Note the title hint....

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

Terry28 - 2-17-2014 at 10:50 AM

Okay, I am out of info. I guess I am supposed to say something like wrought iron-wood, but that would probably be wrong again....so who's next?/

Howard - 2-17-2014 at 10:50 AM

What type of metal is it? I associate the word wrought with metal. Sure doesn't look like metal though.

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Howard]

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:54 AM

Sorry I confused this with using the wrong words...

My question is: What was this unique railing originally used for in Baja? The species of wood does not really matter..just had to be reasonably straight.

PLUS THIS IS IN THE HISTORICAL FORUM.

Howard...this one is wood for sure, no metal.

... --- ...

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

Howard - 2-17-2014 at 10:56 AM

Are you saying no "winner, winner, chicken dinner?"

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 10:57 AM

Yup....no winner, chicken or otherwise...no yet anyhoo.

KaceyJ - 2-17-2014 at 10:58 AM

got one in the front yard , they used to be everywhere along a certain stretch of road,

mines not quite as perty but it still has the threaded stanchion

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by KaceyJ
got one in the front yard , they used to be everywhere along a certain stretch of road,

mines not quite as perty but it still has the threaded stanchion



I hear you, KaceyJ....these were once very common in our neck of Baja. Now they are all gone for one reason or another...along with lots of the other stuff between them? (another quiz item)

Sometimes palo blanco was used....

...---...

Think I'll get some more coffee with some 'unión occidental'.




[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 11:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano

My question is: What was this unique railing originally used for in Baja? The species of wood does not really matter..just had to be reasonably straight.




Fence post.

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano

My question is: What was this unique railing originally used for in Baja? The species of wood does not really matter..just had to be reasonably straight.




Fence post.


NO!! But by Zeus, we're getting much closer!

Now I am 'dashing' off to get another cup of Joe.

Barry A. - 2-17-2014 at 11:22 AM

Roof (or ceiling) beam.

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Roof (or ceiling) beam.


Unfortunately, Barry...NO.

...---... ah, here comes 'Miss Nancy' with another cup.

Edit to add another hint:

A musical group of five Americans in the '60's did a song about the subject.

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano

A musical group of five Americans in the '60's did a song about the subject.




Jail bars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udZLAMMPkcU


oooops......Is a trio five?
maybe not.



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[Edited on 2-17-2014 by DENNIS]

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:40 AM

No. Wrong group. Wrong song.

About that railing....in their previous life, they were always used in a vertical position.

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Cypress - 2-17-2014 at 11:45 AM

Juniper?

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Juniper?


Nope, Cypress....but it doesn't make any difference what 'type' of wood it is...just 'what' it was used for before it became a railing.

Dang spelling errors. ...---...

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

Tbone - 2-17-2014 at 11:50 AM

Walking stick/staff

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Tbone
Walking stick/staff


Nice try, Tbone...but that railing would be kinda big for a walking stick/staff, right? Close, but no cigar.

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Cypress - 2-17-2014 at 12:06 PM

A mast?:D

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
A mast?:D


Now you getting very close, Cypress....but NO...this thing was not used on a boat.

Hmm...maybe I should have used a code for a clue? Naw, someone will get it soon.

Edit to add another hint: Their original use is mostly obsolete and no longer used much these days, except in very special circumstances.

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

OK, got it

Howard - 2-17-2014 at 12:23 PM

This was a simple one. The female cave dwellers used it for pole dancing. :biggrin:

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:24 PM

Howard, I like it! But...Nope.

further hint: The scarcity of straight building materials in Baja had a lot to do with the choice of any wood for this use.

I hope my clues are not too hard-wired for you.

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[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

tripledigitken - 2-17-2014 at 12:26 PM

Flag pole

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
Flag pole


No, but I did once use one of these for just that purpose at Coyote Bay. Flew a ND flag from it..which was later replaced by pranksters with bra and panties. :rolleyes:

Keep thinking vertical, though...you're almost there, by Samuel.

There were hundreds of these once upon a time...

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

vandenberg - 2-17-2014 at 12:34 PM

Corral ??

Cypress - 2-17-2014 at 12:36 PM

A gate/barrier?:biggrin:

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
Corral ??


Not for this one, Ed...but certainly lots of corrals were/are built with timbers like this. Nope, the railing one in the photo above was used in an upright position...as were all the rest for this historical and dashing purpose.

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vandenberg - 2-17-2014 at 12:40 PM

Teepee :lol:

tripledigitken - 2-17-2014 at 12:42 PM

Crucifix?

DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 12:46 PM

Building rafters.

Swizzle sticks.

I give up.

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:52 PM

No, no, and Nope.

Hmmm....I think we need to connect some dots with some of my more dashing hints.

What hath God wrought?
Vertical
Obsolete
Only straight ones used

Dash it all, I've got to have another coffee with unión occidental

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[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 12:56 PM

Telegraph poles.

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Telegraph poles.


BINGO!!

Whew...good going, DENNIS.




Varnished old telegraph poles installed as balcony railings..by builder Raul Luan.

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]

DENNIS - 2-17-2014 at 01:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Telegraph poles.


BINGO!!

Whew...good going, DENNIS.


Hard to miss after this clue:

" unión occidental"

Thanks for the quiz, Roger.

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 01:10 PM

De nada and glad you guessed it, DENNIS.

Those old poles were once stretched across the treeless deserts everywhere in southern Baja. Westen Union was the place in any town to get messages, send or receive money, and keep in touch with the outside world. All pretty collected and put to décor use now in homes and hotels up and down the peninsula.

Of more value was the copper wire connecting all. My old amigo Jake, who lived on a hillside behind mi casa in Coyote Bay had about 500 meters of that wire. He used it as an antenna for his short wave radio. Often told me he got to some faraway place like Toyko on very low power. Was all Greek to me.

"What hath God wrought" was the first transmission by Samuel Morse via the newly invented telegraph.

Over and out.

...---... (dot, dot, dot..dash, dash, dash,....dot, dot, dot

Pompano - 2-17-2014 at 01:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Flag pole


No, but I did once use one of these for just that purpose at Coyote Bay. Flew a ND flag from it..which was later replaced by pranksters with bra and panties. :rolleyes:

Keep thinking vertical, though...you're almost there, by Samuel.

There were hundreds of these once upon a time...

[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]


Glad you reminded me of that flagpole story, Ken...here's an old photo for you showing mine at Coyote Bay back in the day.


sd - 2-17-2014 at 01:41 PM

Any photos of the "un flagged" girl Roger?

KaceyJ - 2-17-2014 at 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by KaceyJ
got one in the front yard , they used to be everywhere along a certain stretch of road,

mines not quite as perty but it still has the threaded stanchion



I hear you, KaceyJ....these were once very common in our neck of Baja. Now they are all gone for one reason or another...along with lots of the other stuff between them? (another quiz item)

Sometimes palo blanco was used....

...---...

Think I'll get some more coffee with some 'unión occidental'.




[Edited on 2-17-2014 by Pompano]



Given that these were buried in dirt for decades and didn't get completely eaten up by the gawd awful termites that infest baja, I always wondered what type of wood they were made from and from where it all came.

Wish i had bought 4-500 hundred of them when they shut the line down. Soo many uses

monoloco - 2-17-2014 at 10:39 PM

The tree is called palo zorillo, (skunk wood) the leaves have a pungent smell when they are crushed. A beautiful wood for making rustic furniture, I have made several tables and used them for legs, I also have made a couple of spectacular beds from palo zorillo. It is very hard and termite proof.

miraflores Muebles

captkw - 2-17-2014 at 11:47 PM

I've seen furniture made with that ....many years ago..and just like "iron wood" is days gone by !!

watizname - 2-18-2014 at 09:31 AM

One night many years ago, we were returning to Chivato after dinner and maybe a couple of margaritas too many when we spotted a crooked old loner pole on top of a little hill the highway had been cut thru. Hung a U, and my buddy and I ran up the hill, wiggled it back and forth for about 10 minutes, to free it , and lugged it to my truck. Luckily it was downhill to the truck, it was all we could do to carry it, it was so heavy, and we were laughing so hard. It's still in front of his casa, and unlike my friend Meany and I, it hasn't changed at all, after all these years. Ahhh, the fun we had. :coolup:

KaceyJ - 2-18-2014 at 09:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by monoloco
The tree is called palo zorillo, (skunk wood) the leaves have a pungent smell when they are crushed. A beautiful wood for making rustic furniture, I have made several tables and used them for legs, I also have made a couple of spectacular beds from palo zorillo. It is very hard and termite proof.



Thanks Mono,

I had to look that up and not suprisingly seems Palo Zorillo could be endangered.

Here is a short article on the tree.

http://www.forsaleinbaja.com/index.php/our-baja/plants-of-ba...

I cringe everytime some do gooder gringo wants to bring a CHAINSAW down for one of his mexican buddies. -Don't do it!:fire:

monoloco - 2-18-2014 at 09:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by watizname
One night many years ago, we were returning to Chivato after dinner and maybe a couple of margaritas too many when we spotted a crooked old loner pole on top of a little hill the highway had been cut thru. Hung a U, and my buddy and I ran up the hill, wiggled it back and forth for about 10 minutes, to free it , and lugged it to my truck. Luckily it was downhill to the truck, it was all we could do to carry it, it was so heavy, and we were laughing so hard. It's still in front of his casa, and unlike my friend Meany and I, it hasn't changed at all, after all these years. Ahhh, the fun we had. :coolup:
Most of the old telegraph poles around here were ocote, an even more durable wood. A family that we know in Los Barriles had a corral made from ocote that they had moved 80 years ago from their rancho near EL Cardonal, where it had been used for about 100 years previously. Ocote has an odor similar to sandal wood.

monoloco - 2-18-2014 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by KaceyJ
Quote:
Originally posted by monoloco
The tree is called palo zorillo, (skunk wood) the leaves have a pungent smell when they are crushed. A beautiful wood for making rustic furniture, I have made several tables and used them for legs, I also have made a couple of spectacular beds from palo zorillo. It is very hard and termite proof.



Thanks Mono,

I had to look that up and not suprisingly seems Palo Zorillo could be endangered.

Here is a short article on the tree.

http://www.forsaleinbaja.com/index.php/our-baja/plants-of-ba...

I cringe everytime some do gooder gringo wants to bring a CHAINSAW down for one of his mexican buddies. -Don't do it!:fire:
For some reason I'm unable to open that link.

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 10:32 AM

Thanks for all the input on those old telegraph poles. They are a piece of Baja history and were an important part of communication all over the world. The Indians of the plains called the telegraph “singing wires.”

Wood. I am continually pleased at the great style and use of wooden things in Baja. Growing up on one, this rancho scene is one of my favorites.


micah202 - 2-18-2014 at 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
No. Wrong group. Wrong song.

About that railing....in their previous life, they were always used in a vertical position.

...---...


...me's jumping in late here ....an early 'girly-dance' pole??:)



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[Edited on 2-18-2014 by micah202]

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 11:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by micah202
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
No. Wrong group. Wrong song.

About that railing....in their previous life, they were always used in a vertical position.

...---...


...me's jumping in late here ....an early 'girly-dance' pole??:)



[Edited on 2-18-2014 by micah202]


Yes, a bit late on that one, micah but no foul. This was in reference to a hint about the telegraph poles by a group called American Five singing their hit song, "Western Union"....some might recall that tune from the 60's?

'girly-dance' pole?...hey, why not? I'm sure Cabo could make it muy popular.

monoloco - 2-18-2014 at 12:31 PM

For a couple of years we had a bar/brothel in the huerta below our house and their "pole" dancing pole was a palm pole that they wrapped with duct tape to protect the girls from splinters.:light:

ncampion - 2-18-2014 at 12:58 PM

Years ago I remember seeing poles with wire strung between them at Sanispac bay. Someone told us they were telegraph poles. Were they correct??

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by ncampion
Years ago I remember seeing poles with wire strung between them at Sanispac bay. Someone told us they were telegraph poles. Were they correct??


Sounds correct, ncampion. They went across the road and up the side of the hillside on the west side of the highway. All gone now, though.

"What Hath God Wrought?"

tripledigitken - 2-18-2014 at 01:05 PM

Roger,

Is it a good read? Lots of pages to get through.


http://www.amazon.com/What-Hath-God-Wrought-Transformation/d...

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by tripledigitken]

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 01:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Roger,

Is it a good read? Lots of pages to get through.


Personally, I think it's Pulitzer material...but then, I could be prejudiced. :rolleyes:

Skipjack Joe - 2-18-2014 at 05:02 PM

I thought you were quoting Mark 10:9

"What God hath wraught together let no man put asunder"

:saint::saint::saint:

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I thought you were quoting Mark 10:9

"What God hath wraught together let no man put asunder"

:saint::saint::saint:


Close, very close, Igor...but the quote Samuel Morse used in the first transmission over his 'telegraph' came from this verse of the Bible....Numbers 23:23...and I quote:

"For there is no enchantment against Jacob,
no divination against Israel;
now it shall be said of Jacob and Israel,
‘What has God wrought?"

This passage was suggested by the daughter of Morse's good friend...the commissioner of patents. As so it went....

dot - dot - dot - dash -dash - dash - dot -dot -dot

Every Boy Scout in my troop had to learn Morse Code for a certain merit badge. What fun we had with that!

KaceyJ - 2-18-2014 at 08:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I thought you were quoting Mark 10:9

"What God hath wraught together let no man put asunder"

:saint::saint::saint:


Close, very close, Igor...but the quote Samuel Morse used in the first transmission over his 'telegraph' came from this verse of the Bible....Numbers 23:23...and I quote:

"For there is no enchantment against Jacob,
no divination against Israel;
now it shall be said of Jacob and Israel,
‘What has God wrought?"

This passage was suggested by the daughter of Morse's good friend...the commissioner of patents. As so it went....

dot - dot - dot - dash -dash - dash - dot -dot -dot

Every Boy Scout in my troop had to learn Morse Code for a certain merit badge. What fun we had with that!




Can you just imagine what a conversation would go like between Sam Morse and Irwin Jacobs? .

Just thinking

In the last 30 years we've gone a simple "all is well " from a tree stump and copper lines and standing in line at the Mulege corner phone to having concentrated information and the library of Congress in the palm of our hand.

Still electrons flowing , just a different media

From out of touch with the world --to the world at a touch

What will it be in another 169 years??
An interesting passage Pompano, I may have to read the bible just for the hell of it.:saint:

I personally have always thrived on a certain amount of uncertainty

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 08:55 PM

Yes, KaceyJ, I can well imagine a conversation between Sam Morse and Irwin Jacobs. Two men who changed the human condition.

The telegraph and satellite communications....pretty impressive feats.

Seems like just yesterday I was playing with a string and a couple soup cans...where did the time go?

watizname - 2-19-2014 at 08:36 AM

Pompano, I bet there are people reading these posts who have don't know the significance of string and soup cans. They probably think you have finally "gone over".:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Pompano - 2-19-2014 at 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by watizname
Pompano, I bet there are people reading these posts who have don't know the significance of string and soup cans. They probably think you have finally "gone over".:lol::lol::lol::lol:


You're most likely correcto, watizname,

Today's crew might not be familiar with the 'string and can' cellphones used by the kids of yesteryear. Here's a little primer on what it was and how we used it. (I once had a tree clubhouse connected to Mom's kitchen by one of these. You never knew when you'd need another peanut butter and jelly Sammy)



Now the key was to make sure that the string was really tight and straight between the two cans (or paper cups). As long as the string is tight, it works. Mine was disconnected until I finished my chores. :rolleyes:

watizname - 2-19-2014 at 12:43 PM

Where DO you find those photos???;D