BajaNomad

being pulled over & speed limit

zach4 - 2-18-2014 at 10:27 AM

So,

I understand that sometimes you can be pulled over by policemen and that they usually want some money.

How often does this happen? are there places that it is more likely to happen?
What is best to do in these cases?
(* we don't really speak Spanish..)

And - what is the speed limit within a city or on the highway? (I mean the maximal, and I know that often you drive much slower than that, I just want to know the limit).

thanks..

DENNIS - 2-18-2014 at 10:36 AM

Speed limits vary from place to place. Just try to establish what it is and drive accordingly.
Just use common sense. If you try to second guess the whole thing, you'll be distracted from the real reason for being here....to enjoy a good trip.

Alan - 2-18-2014 at 10:42 AM

Speed limits are usually well posted along your route. It has been my experience is that "usually" they want you to slow down and drive at a safe speed".... "ocassionally" a policeman will pull you over in hopes of mordita.

If it happened "usually" it wouldn't be a topic that gets posted as it wouldn't constitute "news". Obey the law as you would in the US and you are not likely to have any issues. In 40 years of driving the peninsula I have only had two bogus stops. In every justified stop I received a warning and sent on my way.

Udo - 2-18-2014 at 10:48 AM

My rule of thumb for speed limits in a city is to follow someone on the right lane with a Mexican plate.
If there is a cop behind you without a red light on you, signal a right lane change and move over. If the cop pulls over with you means he plans on following you for a while. Keep cool. Count to three at stop signs, and ALWAYS let pedestrians get all the way to the other curb before you proceed.
Again, stay behind a local driver. The drivers on the right lane, generally drive much slower than those in the left lane.

bajaguy - 2-18-2014 at 10:51 AM

Get a cheap dash cam......in addition to recording your trip, it provides proof of stopping at stop signs and will also show other cars driving faster than you.

DENNIS - 2-18-2014 at 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
Get a cheap dash cam......in addition to recording your trip, it provides proof of stopping at stop signs and will also show other cars driving faster than you.



Here's a good one:

http://shop.komando.com/the-komando-dual-lens-dash-cam

Udo - 2-18-2014 at 10:59 AM

That's a really good and inexpensive idea, Dennis!

zach4 - 2-18-2014 at 11:01 AM

thanks guys...

are the speed limit signs in kilometers?

DENNIS - 2-18-2014 at 11:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by zach4
thanks guys...

are the speed limit signs in kilometers?


Always.
Just multiply the posted number by six. That will give you the approximate mph speed.

50 KPH x 6 = 30 mph.



.

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by DENNIS]

Russ - 2-18-2014 at 11:06 AM

Posted highway 1 speed limits are ridiculously slow. Big rigs will blow you off the road. Just drive at a safe speed for you and you should be okay. If stopped be courteous and you be able to get by with a warning. If it is an obvious stop for mordida ask politely for his name and badge number and where you can go to pay the fine.

apple - 2-18-2014 at 11:30 AM

The speed limits on Highway 1 are often pretty low, usually around 90kph and then dropping to 30 or 60 when you get into a town.
Slow down when you approach a town and watch out for speed bumps.

On the highway, I don't worry too much about the speed limits and neither do the locals. On the straight stretches I usually cruise around 120 if conditions allow and I'll still get passed by Mexican cars.

I've only seen one cop with a radar speed trap set up and he was in the median in the middle of the road and could spotted a mile in advance.

One other piece of advice, if you're behind a large truck and trying to pass and they put on their left blinker it usually means you are be safe to pass.

In La Paz counting to 3 at a stop sign will annoy the cars behind you and maybe even get you rear ended...

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by apple]

RanchGX - 2-18-2014 at 11:54 AM

If you go through Tecate make sure you come to a complete stop! And dont ever speed in that place. Everywhere else is pretty easy going and common sense.... just apply extra common sense when in Tecate..... and make sure to grab a free cerveza at the brewery!!!

sancho - 2-18-2014 at 12:02 PM

Some posted limits are absurdly low, have seen
a 80km/50mph or less, out on open Hwy, probably not
strictly enforced, but it does give a Cop leverage
for mordida

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by sancho]

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by sancho]

Speed Limit

J.P. - 2-18-2014 at 12:23 PM

Just look at your Speedometer its marked in M.P.H. and K.P.H. if your car was built in this Century. :lol::lol:

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by J.P.]

Udo - 2-18-2014 at 12:32 PM

That's why I got rear-ended by a bus there last September.
Quote:
Originally posted by apple
In La Paz counting to 3 at a stop sign will annoy the cars behind you and maybe even get you rear ended...

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by apple]

J.P. - 2-18-2014 at 12:38 PM

I got rear ended on Reforma in Ensenada by stopping at a Red Light. My gas tank was up on the hood of the car that hit me. Ever since I look behind before I stop.
I have since learned Yellow light doesnt mean prepare to Stop it means Speed Up and get across before the light changes.:lol:

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by J.P.]

Pompano - 2-18-2014 at 01:07 PM

Drive the posted limit... if you can stand to go that slow at times.

Be aware that there WAS a radar trap just south of GN a couple of miles. He collected lots of mordida over the years.

BUT...haven't seen him in a couple years now. I believe he retired to his villa in Acapulco.

dasubergeek - 2-18-2014 at 02:05 PM

In north Baja (the "Riviera", north of, say, San Quintín) it will rarely be a problem.

EXCEPT Tecate. They are unbelievably strict there and I can count on being followed by a police officer at least once per trip through that city. Make sure you stop so that he can see the "bounceback" (but not too hard), wait for a moment, then pull through the intersection. The speed limit in town is generally either 40 km/h or 60 km/h. Be careful of the downhill as you leave town headed south, there's often a car sitting there clocking speed.

The only other rule you need to know is how to make a left turn on rural roads. The law in Mexico says that left turns happen from the right shoulder. You signal RIGHT, pull to the shoulder, then wait for traffic to clear and turn across the entire roadbed. A left blinker, as apple said above, means "it is safe to pass me". In town, of course, left turns happen normally.

chavycha - 2-18-2014 at 03:41 PM

Some of the speed limits are laughable, for example the Tortugas/Asuncion road which was redone recently is posted at 40kph (25mph) for long stretches.

There are other places which are the opposite - the grade going down into Santa Rosalia, for one, where you'd have to be suicidal to do anything near the 80kph (50mph) posted.

Be smart and safe, and you'll do fine.

gnukid - 2-18-2014 at 03:49 PM

Perhaps nomads need to be reminded that when you get pulled over for speeding, practice mind kung fu, don't respond directly to the threats of mordida or jail or impounding the vehicle-that's bs, instead deflect, try to slow down the situation in time warp slow motion and be relaxed, move incredibly slowly and talk really slow, be patient like you have forever, be humorous, enjoy the interaction, ask their name and ask to see their formal id since they are required by law to identify themselves and you will find the situation change quickly. Most cops are just trying to see if they can get a n angry reaction from an excitable gringo then they exploit it, so best never to react, never even if they have guns and masks, they lose patience, get bored and leave pretty quickly. They are hoping for 10 pesos, 20 pesos or anything but don't pay them on the spot because that's wrong. I often pepper my chat the subject of recipes, frijol, arroz, pavo, cebolla and peppers, then they leave-probably getting hungry.

mtgoat666 - 2-18-2014 at 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gnukid
Perhaps nomads need to be reminded that when you get pulled over for speeding, practice mind kung fu,... deflect, try to slow down the situation in time warp slow motion and be relaxed, move incredibly slowly and talk really slow, be patient like you have forever, be humorous, enjoy the interaction,


perhaps the the solution is to bat your eyelashes and flash your boobs, if you got the goods, or if you are flat and fugly, then act bat chit crazy. what if you act too crazy and they haul you in for a psych eval? I suppose drooling and rolling eyeballs is ill advised??

speed

captkw - 2-18-2014 at 04:52 PM

going a sane speed will keep you safe and out of the cops eyes...the worst areas are TJ,,,.ensanada,constatucion,south of la paz on the road to todo santos..feel free to go 500KPH between san jose del cabo and cabo....any slower you might get rear ended !! and Please don't stop at stop signs.......just slow down and fake it..or you WILL get rear ended....think about this.....if a cop in Baja pulls you over and you give say 20 bucks VS a cop in Calif. gives you a ticket and you at you brothers furnerul and you missed the court you are now to be arrested..and no matter what unless you win in court (F-ing RARE) the fine is $250 and up and raises your insure bill !!! I'll take mex any day of the week over the "Land of the Fee"!!! PS.. "bajaboy" brings up a good point!! search "Russian dash cam" and hold on to your seat !!! LOL !!

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by captkw]

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by captkw]

alacran - 2-18-2014 at 07:36 PM

My experience with mordidas, has worked several times (however I do speak fluent Spanish) and it is,
I aknowledge the wrong (no argument) and ask nicely (since I am in a hurry) if the officer would be kind enough to pay the fine for me.
Giving him the money.
No bribe, no problema.

Cliffy - 2-19-2014 at 12:04 PM

Here's another dash cam for $41 USD


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-HD-Car-DVR-Video-Vehicle-Camer...

Martyman - 2-19-2014 at 12:52 PM

I've been pulled over twice in Tijuana. Paid $60 once and $27 (USD) the second. (Goat is a little off when he said they only want 10 or 20 pesos). I just cross my fingers when I go thru TJ. Cops are pricks.

DavidE - 2-19-2014 at 01:09 PM

"I want your license"

"What For?"

"You were speeding"

"No"

"Si"

"No"

"Si"

Vamanos a la comandancia (let's go to the police station)

"It is illegal for you to not give me your license"

"Not if we go right now to la comandancia. We will let your commandante or juez decide"

"This is illegal"

No it isn't. Vamanos hombre ahorita mismo

They haven't got a leg to stand on. Yeah they can reach for their handcuffs. They can stand on their freakin' head. If I know for an absolute fact I did not break whatever law they are accusing me of, it's off to the police station.

"La comandancia es cerrado"

Good, do you know of any good hotels, nearby?

"I am going to arrest you:

"Excellent! When I talk to el commandante I have some surprises for you"

Yes it is scary to get in a mordelones face this way. Tricks, they'll pull. Flashing their reglas de transito book at you, going back to their car and faking getting on the radio. The handcuffs act, patting their holster.

But if you are DAMNED SURE without a doubt in the word you are being bitten, this act will work in your favor. The cop is not expecting it. Throw in (in los estados bajas) Attorney for the protection of tourists, El Ministerio Publico. Denuncia Federal. Magic words.

All conducted without a trace of anger. An air of concerned confidence. A really good posture is one displaying a wordless expression of sorrow for the cop. Let him appreciate imagining himself initiating a life-changing world of hurt for himself.

I had to do this with a utterly corrupt Migra in Tecate. He did not bluff easily. He found himself in a hole and kept digging. I processed his asss to the hilt.

DENNIS - 2-19-2014 at 01:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Martyman

Goat is a little off


:lol::lol:

wessongroup - 2-19-2014 at 01:12 PM

DavidE. Outstanding ... :):) ... ya got a pair

[Edited on 2-19-2014 by wessongroup]

DENNIS - 2-19-2014 at 03:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch


Until Mexico pays a decent wage for cops(at which time most of us will have to re-evaluate our lifestyles) then there will be graft......


Decent wages won't even begin to stop the "Mordida" system. Why would any force of working people ever say, "OK...I make enough money now. I don't want any more." Not very likely, is it.
Greed will regulate power abuse......always. Cartels are a case in point.

DavidE - 2-19-2014 at 03:07 PM

It's not that I'm some kind of Rambo, or John Wayne.

Drive 10 miles and a person will see more FLAGRANT and DANGEROUS violations than 10 transitos could ever handle.

I drive meticulously. In the right lane, proper signals, come to a full, absolute and complete stop at ALTOS. I do not enter an intersection on an amber light. If there is a risk of a following car, I tap the brake lights in advance of an intersection instead of standing on the brakes at the last instant.

So, when I pass a 40Km speed limit sign and I am doing 40 KM/hr and a mordelone pulls me over for speeding I tend to get cranky very fast.

When my camper was illegally towed in Lazaro Card##as Michoacan I did not screw around, i went to la comandancia and announced to the commandante "One of your policemen stole my pickup and camper". I think I related that episode here in the past.

But when I parked and was asked to move the estacionamiento was reserved, and jumped back into the truck and moved it a block and got nailed by a foot cop for not buckling up, I swallowed any displeasure - I had to. It was the law whether I liked it or not -- all 400 pesos of it.

Gulliver - 2-19-2014 at 04:43 PM

So what's wrong with 80km/hr on route 1? You came to Baja to rush through it? I mean, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do." does NOT extend to dying the way they do. I just make it easy for the hot shots to pass and let them have their accident far from me.

DavidE - 2-19-2014 at 05:18 PM

Especially when 80% of Mex-1 is now signed 60 KPH or slower.

The capillas are not on the shoulder of the highway to commemorate winners...

Cliffy - 2-23-2014 at 11:58 AM

In doing my "due diligence" for my first trip south in many years I clipped this (below) from a way earlier thread. Does it have any validity now or for these situations in Tecate (my POE) and how can I get more info on this? 078? what else do I need to dial as I will have a trow away ATT phone while down there.


"There is a very strong social pressure to make northern Baja safe for the return of tourists. There are special tourist police and you may call 078 at any time and (in English) request help, even when stopped by regular police."

Dash Cam

bajaguy - 2-23-2014 at 12:10 PM

Now on Amazon.com for $18

2.5-inch HD Car LED IR Vehicle DVR Road Dash Video Camera Recorder Traffic Dashboard Camcorder - LCD 270 degrees whirl

http://tinyurl.com/me4qovj
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
Get a cheap dash cam......in addition to recording your trip, it provides proof of stopping at stop signs and will also show other cars driving faster than you.


[Edited on 2-23-2014 by bajaguy]

DENNIS - 2-23-2014 at 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
Now on Amazon.com for $18

2.5-inch HD Car LED IR Vehicle DVR Road Dash Video Camera Recorder Traffic Dashboard Camcorder - LCD 270 degrees whirl

http://tinyurl.com/me4qovj



Good price. I paid 40$ for the same camera in 2012.

durrelllrobert - 2-23-2014 at 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by zach4
thanks guys...

are the speed limit signs in kilometers?


Always.
Just multiply the posted number by six. That will give you the approximate mph speed.

50 KPH x 6 = 30 mph.



.

[Edited on 2-18-2014 by DENNIS]
Make that 0.6 (actually 0.62 since 100 kph = 62 mph.

gnukid - 2-23-2014 at 01:37 PM

0.621371192

DENNIS - 2-23-2014 at 01:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert


Make that 0.6 (actually 0.62 since 100 kph = 62 mph.



Quote:
Originally posted by gnukid
0.621371192




Jeeeezo....You guys would need a computer to drive to the liquor store. :lol:

bajaguy - 2-23-2014 at 01:51 PM

How do you like it??
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS


Good price. I paid 40$ for the same camera in 2012.

Ateo - 2-23-2014 at 01:58 PM

I don't ever pull over. I run. Never been caught. :lol::lol:

DENNIS - 2-23-2014 at 02:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
How do you like it??





Just fine. I like the Komando unit more....dual lens and all. It's the one I referred to above.

baconjr - 2-23-2014 at 11:14 PM

The maximum fine for a traffic violation is a days minimum wages which is about $8-9 a day except for vehicular manslaughter and drunk driving. If you did violate the traffic laws offer to pay the bribe. If they are shaking you down demand to see the judge, this usually makes them let you go because the judge gets the money and it takes the cop off the road so they can't shake down others. In TJ they have card readers that take you driver info and you can pay with it. Make sure all of your light bulbs work and do what every you can to keep from driving at night. What ever you do don't panic, they are like sharks smelling blood. The last time I was stopped in Tecate I demanded to see the judge and I accused them trying to shake me down. It also helps that I am 6'4" and weigh 270lbs. I acted like a mad man, they couldn't get away from me fast enough. There use to be a phone number to call to turn in crooked cops. You put the numbers on a piece of paper and tape to the back of your license. Whet the cop turns over your license to get the bribe they see these numbers. If it is a real cop they know that they could be fired or taken off the beat.

DENNIS - 2-23-2014 at 11:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by baconjr
Whet the cop turns over your license to get the bribe they see these numbers. If it is a real cop they know that they could be fired or taken off the beat.


:lol::lol::lol:

Cliffy - 2-24-2014 at 12:53 AM

Here's my previous post from page two of this thread. I'm trying to find out if the numbers still work?

In doing my "due diligence" for my first trip south in many years I clipped this (below) from a way earlier thread. Does it have any validity now or for these situations in Tecate (my POE) and how can I get more info on this? 078? what else do I need to dial as I will have a trow away ATT phone while down there.


"There is a very strong social pressure to make northern Baja safe for the return of tourists. There are special tourist police and you may call 078 at any time and (in English) request help, even when stopped by regular police."

DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 05:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cliffy
Here's my previous post from page two of this thread. I'm trying to find out if the numbers still work?

Does it have any validity now or for these situations in Tecate (my POE) and how can I get more info on this? 078? what else do I need to dial as I will have a trow away ATT phone while down there.


"There is a very strong social pressure to make northern Baja safe for the return of tourists. There are special tourist police and you may call 078 at any time and (in English) request help, even when stopped by regular police."


Common sense will tell you it's a PR fantasy to placate tourists who get caught up in a mordida scam. The phone number may be there, and someone may even answer the phone, but in reality, what are they going to do about it?
What you will be required to do, if the fantasy goes too far, is accuse a police officer of a crime, ........an accusation you won't be able to prove. That in itself is a crime......a serious crime in Mexico.
Does it ever occur to anyone that the offending cop may simply and adamantly deny the accusation? Say it's all just a misunderstanding? Then, what do you have?
I'll tell you what you have........a city you won't be able to drive through in the future.

Nye - 2-24-2014 at 09:36 AM

is this version of "smokey n the bandit" the TJ to Cabo 1?

[Edited on 2-24-2014 by Nye]

Cliffy - 2-24-2014 at 11:02 AM

Buford T Justice rides again in Baja :-) :-) :-)

He be in "hot pursuit"!

DavidE - 2-24-2014 at 12:23 PM

I'll tell you what you have........a city you won't be able to drive through in the future.


I pray for such an encounter. When a transito stopped me in Monclova, and demanded to search my vehicle, I told him if he so much as touched my car I would tell his sargento he demanded 5,000 pesos from me.

Leverage their WEAKNESS don't butt heads with their strength. Greed and mistrust runs RAMPANT in most oficinas de transito.

monoloco - 2-24-2014 at 01:41 PM

Just remember, it may be expedient to pay a mordida and be on your way, but when you do, you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favors, you are just perpetuating a f-ed up system and training the police that gringos are an easy mark. Relax, demand to be given the infraction, then go to the comandancia and pay, 9 times out of 10, you will be let off with a warning because the officer will be afraid that you will tell his superior that he solicited a bribe.

Cypress - 2-24-2014 at 01:48 PM

Learned a long time ago to be very respectful of the law. Yes Sir. No Sir. Be humble and passive. Bad things can happen if you aren't. That's the way it is north or south of the border.:yes:

DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 01:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by monoloco
9 times out of 10, you will be let off with a warning because the officer will be afraid that you will tell his superior that he solicited a bribe.


And, his superior......when he worked the streets, was he clean? Was he Serpico in front of all his rotten peers?
They all do this mordida thing. It's the structure of the game.

If the cop drops his demands for money, it's because you, the victim, didn't just roll over out of fear. You became more trouble than you were worth.

monoloco - 2-24-2014 at 01:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by monoloco
9 times out of 10, you will be let off with a warning because the officer will be afraid that you will tell his superior that he solicited a bribe.


And, his superior......when he worked the streets, was he clean? Was he Serpico in front of all his rotten peers?
They all do this mordida thing. It's the structure of the game.

If the cop drops his demands for money, it's because you, the victim, didn't just roll over out of fear. You became more trouble than you were worth.
Yes, but he's probably not giving his boss his proper share.:lol:

bajaguy - 2-24-2014 at 01:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ
Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Learned a long time ago to be very respectful of the law. Yes Sir. No Sir. Be humble and passive. Bad things can happen if you aren't. That's the way it is north or south of the border.:yes:

Cliffy - 2-24-2014 at 01:59 PM

I can see my next trip down after 20 yrs layoff will be an education. In all the times I did drive down I never got tagged for the payoff, even when I wound up the wrong way on a one way street in TJ. This time will tell me if I want to continue in the future.

monoloco - 2-24-2014 at 02:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cliffy
I can see my next trip down after 20 yrs layoff will be an education. In all the times I did drive down I never got tagged for the payoff, even when I wound up the wrong way on a one way street in TJ. This time will tell me if I want to continue in the future.
Don't worry about it too much, I've been here for over 20 years and can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I have been pulled over.

tjsue - 2-24-2014 at 02:36 PM

I drive at night all the time, and have never had any problems. When I work, I work at night, but I leave during the day, and the same with going out. I drive from where I live across the border, and back, nowhere else, because it's easier to take a cab, and the only other places that I go are to the grocery store(Soriana), or downtown, when I'm going to walk across the border.

I saw a form to give to a police officer to fill out if you get stopped, but I don't remember where I saw it, but maybe someone else will.

DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 05:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tjsue

I saw a form to give to a police officer to fill out if you get stopped, but I don't remember where I saw it, but maybe someone else will.


It's in your checkbook. Be generous. :lol:

tjsue - 2-24-2014 at 08:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by tjsue

I saw a form to give to a police officer to fill out if you get stopped, but I don't remember where I saw it, but maybe someone else will.


It's in your checkbook. Be generous. :lol:


It's not a check. It's a form for the officer to fill and give to you with all of his information, so that you can report him.

willardguy - 2-24-2014 at 09:00 PM

if you do ever get pulled over, drop david E's name. first they will start shaking uncontrollably, then either pass out, pee their pants(or worse), or just take off at a dead run. works every time!:rolleyes:

[Edited on 2-25-2014 by willardguy]

DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 09:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tjsue
It's not a check. It's a form for the officer to fill and give to you with all of his information, so that you can report him.




Ohhhh...that form. :lol::lol:
I think he should just hand you his pistol so you could drain it in his chest.

DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 09:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
if you do ever get pulled over, drop david E's name. first they will start shaking uncontrollably, then either pass out, pee their pants(or worse), or just take off at a dead run. works every time!:rolleyes:




And...if all else fails, just tell the cop how you've been enjoying his mother on the weekends. :lol::lol:

tjsue - 2-24-2014 at 09:17 PM

This is what I found.

[Edited on 2-25-2014 by tjsue]

[Edited on 2-25-2014 by tjsue]

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DENNIS - 2-24-2014 at 09:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tjsue
This is what I found.




That's a good one......especially the part about a photo and signature of the extortionist cop. :lol::lol:

WideAngleWandering - 2-25-2014 at 01:52 PM

I have never been pulled over in Baja. Only military/police checks. I have been pulled over elsewhere in Mexico and all over Central America.

I have only paid one bribe - a warm can of club soda to a cop in Nicaragua.

My routine is simple:


Invariably I'm waved on down the road. Sometimes this takes up to 15 minutes before they get bored.

[Edited on 2014-2-25 by WideAngleWandering]

DavidE - 2-25-2014 at 02:12 PM

" And...if all else fails, just tell the cop how you've been enjoying his mother on the weekends. :lol::lol: "

You forgot LOS CUERNOS. Hold your hand up and extend forefinger and pinkie straight up as you tell the cop what Dennis suggests...

This is effective. You'll prove it just before seeing a muzzle flash.

Cliffy - 2-25-2014 at 03:04 PM

Maybe a "poll" is needed-

How many times have you been stopped in Baja?

How many tickets have you had in the USA for the last 10 years?

Maybe there is a correlation? :-) :-)

DENNIS - 2-25-2014 at 03:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cliffy
How many times have you been stopped in Baja?


Half dozen.
Quote:

How many tickets have you had in the USA for the last 10 years?


None.

DavidE - 2-25-2014 at 04:27 PM

Saw a Swede in a thong in "The Office" several years ago.

She stopped me dead in my tracks.