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Border patrol study

baja Steve - 2-27-2014 at 11:08 AM

This What

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/27/283455547/report-criticizes-border-patrols-use-of-force

Mulegena - 2-27-2014 at 11:31 AM

^ That ^

David K - 2-27-2014 at 11:38 AM

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willardguy - 2-27-2014 at 11:49 AM

you gotta read the comments, I think they're all nomads! :lol:

Pescador - 2-27-2014 at 12:17 PM

The article comes from a "Times" article and is being reported in National Public Radio. Gee I wonder what kind of twist that reporting would reflect?
Maybe, "Fair, Balanced, and Unafraid". (Not)

bajaguy - 2-27-2014 at 12:35 PM

Maybe the problem is people are getting more violent and don't have a problem with attacking armed LEO's, who have a right to defend themselves.

I have been on the receiving end of rocks being thrown during a disturbance, and it is not fun.

One incident occurred while riding "shotgun" on a city firetruck and the crowd was throwing bricks.....the fire guys were pretty impressed that people would throw stuff at them

Bajaboy - 2-27-2014 at 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
The article comes from a "Times" article and is being reported in National Public Radio. Gee I wonder what kind of twist that reporting would reflect?
Maybe, "Fair, Balanced, and Unafraid". (Not)

At least it wasn't reported on Fox:

http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox...

Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Stupid
December 14, 2010 |
Yet another study has been released proving that watching Fox News is detrimental to your intelligence. World Public Opinion, a project managed by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, conducted a survey [3] of American voters that shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources. What’s more, the study shows that greater exposure to Fox News increases misinformation.

So the more you watch, the less you know. Or to be precise, the more you think you know that is actually false. This study corroborates a previous PIPA study [4] that focused on the Iraq war with similar results. And there was an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll [5] that demonstrated the break with reality on the part of Fox viewers with regard to health care. The body of evidence that Fox News is nothing but a propaganda machine dedicated to lies is growing by the day.

In eight of the nine questions below, Fox News placed first in the percentage of those who were misinformed (they placed second in the question on TARP). That’s a pretty high batting average for journalistic fraud. Here is a list of what Fox News viewers believe that just aint so:

•91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
•72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
•72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
•60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
•49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
•63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
•56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
•38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
•63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)
The conclusion is inescapable. Fox News is deliberately misinforming its viewers and it is doing so for a reason. Every issue above is one in which the Republican Party had a vested interest. The GOP benefited from the ignorance that Fox News helped to proliferate. The results were apparent in the election last month as voters based their decisions on demonstrably false information fed to them by Fox News.

By the way, the rest of the media was not blameless. CNN and the broadcast network news operations fared only slightly better in many cases. Even MSNBC, which had the best record of accurately informing viewers, has a ways to go before it can brag about it.

The conclusions in this study need to be disseminated as broadly as possible. Fox’s competitors need to report these results and produce ad campaigns featuring them. Newspapers and magazines need to publish the study across the country. This is big news and it is critical that the nation be advised that a major news enterprise is poisoning their minds.

This is not an isolated review of Fox’s performance. It has been corroborated time and time again. The fact that Fox News is so blatantly dishonest, and the effects of that dishonesty have become ingrained in an electorate that has been been purposefully deceived, needs to be made known to every American. Our democracy cannot function if voters are making choices based on lies. We have the evidence that Fox is tilting the scales and we must now make certain its corporate owners do not get away with it.

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But wait........

bajaguy - 2-27-2014 at 01:10 PM

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/foxnews.asp

DavidE - 2-27-2014 at 01:13 PM

I believe Obama is like all failed lawyer politicians and was born inside URANUS.

Foggy bottom is on another planet. Now I ask THIS

Ask BOTH houses of congress for A LIST

This is the list

The one that identifies legislators by name and party affiliation.

The one that indicates the history of HOW they voted

When it came (multiple times) to RAISING their own salary and benefits.

Bob53 - 2-27-2014 at 01:15 PM

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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/foxnews.asp

But but but I read it on the internet so it has to be true.

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by Bob53]

Barry A. - 2-27-2014 at 01:16 PM

Bajaboy-------------consider the source of this article---------that tells you A LOT right there!!!

It's all in how the questions are phrased.

I reject the premise of all this until I see the details of the study, and how it was conducted, and who were the participants and how many there were.

The conclusion of this article, and presumably the study itself, defies logic, to me. I watch CNN, C-Span, MSNBC, and FNC daily, and listen to NPR exclusively, plus the internet news, and none of these conclusions from this study make any sense to me at all.

Barry

Bajaboy - 2-27-2014 at 01:19 PM

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Bajaboy-------------consider the source of this article---------that tells you A LOT right there!!!

It's all in how the questions are phrased.

I reject the premise of all this until I see the details of the study, and how it was conducted, and who were the participants and how many there were.

The conclusion of this article, and presumably the study itself, defies logic, to me. I watch CNN, C-Span, MSNBC, and FNC daily, and listen to NPR exclusively, plus the internet news, and none of these conclusions from this study make any sense to me at all.

Barry

Barry, I agree with you a 100% and take this poll with a grain of salt. But with that said, Fox is a propaganda machine....

Barry A. - 2-27-2014 at 01:22 PM

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Barry, I agree with you a 100% and take this poll with a grain of salt. But with that said, Fox is a propaganda machine....

-----all news reporting contains an inevitable bias, that is true. Knowing that is the key to understanding and interpreting what you hear.

Barry

wessongroup - 2-27-2014 at 01:32 PM

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http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/foxnews.asp

My, my .... couldn't be ... a misleading "study" :biggrin:

Osprey - 2-27-2014 at 02:14 PM

That's all I watch. Fox News. So that explains why I'm so dumb, so dense. Thanks for the posts on this. I was beginning to think it was just my genes or bad luck or something. Where can I get instructions as to how to change to other news outfits that will make me smart (or smarter)? One caveat: don't be sending me places where I get too smart for my britches -- mama warned me about that one (at least).

Can you be "just about as smart as your britches?" Would that be a better thing than "Too smart?"

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by Osprey]

monoloco - 2-27-2014 at 02:33 PM

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That's all I watch. Fox News. So that explains why I'm so dumb, so dense. Thanks for the posts on this. I was beginning to think it was just my genes or bad luck or something. Where can I get instructions as to how to change to other news outfits that will make me smart (or smarter)? One caveat: don't be sending me places where I get too smart for my britches -- mama warned me about that one (at least).

Can you be "just about as smart as your britches?" Would that be a better thing than "Too smart?"

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by Osprey]

The news is so depressing, you might want to consider switching to "The Onion". I don't know if it will make you any smarter but at least you'll get a chuckle out of it.

bajabuddha - 2-27-2014 at 02:37 PM

Ain't it funny, this thread starting out about people throwing rocks, and that's all it's ending up to be too? Gawd. That's why there are curtains on election booths. Why not peck about your bathroom habits; it would be more interesting, and less poop slung.
:lol:

DavidE - 2-27-2014 at 03:25 PM

Soulpatch, Guilty As Charged. I fought it, I really did, but then weakness FORCED ME to display my "unhappiness" with politics. I really do apologize for the comment. And gimme a grenade.

Bob53 - 2-27-2014 at 03:37 PM

My kind of characters.

DENNIS - 2-27-2014 at 03:46 PM

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My kind of characters.

Yeah...these guys are a million laughs... :lol:

[there's one] :lol:

......[there's two]
I'm gonna be here a while. :lol:

[three]

.....

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[Edited on 2-27-2014 by DENNIS]

Pescador - 2-27-2014 at 03:56 PM

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by Pescador]

wessongroup - 2-27-2014 at 04:07 PM

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A scary thought ... those who don't watch TV ... WOW ,... must be at "grunt" level for sure .... say, maybe that's where the rock throwing comes in ....

Just saying :biggrin:

[Edited on 2-28-2014 by wessongroup]

DavidE - 2-27-2014 at 05:37 PM

Want info sifted a little finer than usual?

Dial in the BBC.

MSNBC versus Fox is like comparing BORDERLAND BEAT to THE NATIONAL INQUIRER

Bajahowodd - 2-27-2014 at 06:00 PM

There is documentation. When Roger Ailes was in the Reagan administration, he proposed a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

Fox News is nothing more than a Republican party propaganda organization catering to old white folks.

Roger was successful.

Barry A. - 2-27-2014 at 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Osprey - 2-27-2014 at 06:38 PM

Where do I get some MISINFORMATION? It must be very valuable since Roger Ailes is able to sell it for a fortune and nobody else can. Wow. If there was anything I was born to do it would be that (I'm a fiction writer don't ya know).

Bob53 - 2-27-2014 at 06:46 PM

All news medias are filled with lies and false propaganda. Fox is no worse than the rest.

willardguy - 2-27-2014 at 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Bob53
All news medias are filled with lies and false propaganda. Fox is no worse than the rest.

at least Fox is easy on the eyes! :yes:

Bob53 - 2-27-2014 at 06:51 PM

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All news medias are filled with lies and false propaganda. Fox is no worse than the rest.

at least Fox is easy on the eyes! :yes:

Agreed! lol

wessongroup - 2-27-2014 at 07:06 PM

Good one ... :lol:

Whoa Frank

bajaguy - 2-27-2014 at 07:07 PM

Lay off of the coffee or peyote :lol:

Osprey - 2-27-2014 at 07:45 PM

Or take more peyote. Best way is anal like the Ah Bo Rigenes did. Ah Bo Rigenes in Nahatle means "Stinky Finger".

Ateo - 2-27-2014 at 07:49 PM

Nothing wrong with Peyote. Don't knock it till you try it. :lol:

Barry A. - 2-27-2014 at 11:56 PM

Huh???????????

Barry

Osprey - 2-28-2014 at 08:55 AM

I try not to be the first to twist a thread but if the banter is well written, witty, wise or entertaining I can't help but push the crooked thing along sometimes.

I go find something else to do when the posts are just gripes, personal attacks or nonsense. (much like the 8,000 Nomads who have lives of their own)

Bajajorge - 2-28-2014 at 11:41 AM

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Maybe the problem is people are getting more violent and don't have a problem with attacking armed LEO's, who have a right to defend themselves.

I have been on the receiving end of rocks being thrown during a disturbance, and it is not fun.

One incident occurred while riding "shotgun" on a city firetruck and the crowd was throwing bricks.....the fire guys were pretty impressed that people would throw stuff at them

Guy, people always like fire folks, they get kittens out of trees for the little kids. People dislike LE as they give out speeding tickets to those who never exceed the speed limit. They also put only innocent people in prison. Just ask any prisoner. They all will tell you how innocent they are, and the cops framed them. :lol:

Bajahowodd - 3-3-2014 at 05:55 PM

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Not at all impossible given the Fox demographic that consists mostly of white men over 60. They play to their fears.

You know. As the US demographic continually marches toward white folks being in the minority, Fox and the Tea Party in particular have grabbed onto the idea that an illegitimate black president needs to be dealt with. (Thanks alot Koch Bros)

Anyone who is a student of history understands that when Obama was elected the first time, the entire right wing held meetings to plan how he would never again be re-elected. Never happened before in the entire history of the US.

Obsessed

bajaguy - 3-3-2014 at 06:10 PM

Hey Odd, you seem to be obsessed with Fox and the Tea Party. are you paranoid??? If you don't like Fox and/or the Tea Party, ignore them. Your diatribes get old, move on to OT, my friend

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Mexitron - 3-4-2014 at 06:27 AM

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

And let's not forget what opiates the religious systems have delivered over the years. Better now than the last millennium (I mean can you imagine being executed for not being a believer?). And then there's North Korea and N-zi Germany----by all means people can be controlled by misinformation. Hell, the first thing they do in war is demonize the enemy.

Bajahowodd - 3-7-2014 at 05:40 PM

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Hey Odd, you seem to be obsessed with Fox and the Tea Party. are you paranoid??? If you don't like Fox and/or the Tea Party, ignore them. Your diatribes get old, move on to OT, my friend

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

I'm not paranoid. I'm sad at what has developed.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Barry A. - 3-7-2014 at 05:54 PM

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

I'm not paranoid. I'm sad at what has developed.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Well you have quoted a LOT out of context in this post--------

I am a Conservative, and a College History minor, and I never heard of this "right wing plot" against Obama never being elected again. I feel left out. (-:

I could not care less what race the President is, I just want him to do a good job by my standards----------Obama-the-man is just not a President living up to my standards ---------I am a Mitt Romney man.

Barry

Bajahowodd - 3-8-2014 at 06:03 PM

For Barry- Just try Googling Mitch McConnell, and you can find that he stated just what I said.

For DK- You negated your thought just by referencing Fox News, which is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.

#1- Do you have any idea of how many people can now get health insurance that was previously denied due to pre-existing conditions? Your assertion about more people being uninsured is totally absurd.

#2- The fact that Iraq appears to be in chaos can actually be attributed to two factors. First, the so-called Republican God, Ronald Reagan fundamentally created and funded the Taliban in an attempt to fight the Russians. How's that working out? Second factor is that Saddam was never a threat to the West, and the real reason we invaded Iraq was to gain control of their vast oil reserves.
Iraq was already a divided country between Sunnis, Shia, and Kurds. Once we left, what could any sane person expect?

#3- So, am I to expect that you feel like we ought to go to war with Russia over Crimea? Nuclear war? This is a tough situation. Crimea WAS a part of Russia until Krushchev basically gave Crimea to Ukraine in 1954. The real issue here is whether Putin has any intentions of stopping if he has a success in the referendum for secession.

I have been to both Ukrainian and Russian areas in Ukraine. For whatever that's worth.

Barry A. - 3-8-2014 at 06:25 PM

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For Barry- Just try Googling Mitch McConnell, and you can find that he stated just what I said.

For DK- You negated your thought just by referencing Fox News, which is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party.

#1- Do you have any idea of how many people can now get health insurance that was previously denied due to pre-existing conditions? Your assertion about more people being uninsured is totally absurd.

#2- The fact that Iraq appears to be in chaos can actually be attributed to two factors. First, the so-called Republican God, Ronald Reagan fundamentally created and funded the Taliban in an attempt to fight the Russians. How's that working out? Second factor is that Saddam was never a threat to the West, and the real reason we invaded Iraq was to gain control of their vast oil reserves.
Iraq was already a divided country between Sunnis, Shia, and Kurds. Once we left, what could any sane person expect?

#3- So, am I to expect that you feel like we ought to go to war with Russia over Crimea? Nuclear war? This is a tough situation. Crimea WAS a part of Russia until Krushchev basically gave Crimea to Ukraine in 1954. The real issue here is whether Putin has any intentions of stopping if he has a success in the referendum for secession.

I have been to both Ukrainian and Russian areas in Ukraine. For whatever that's worth.

OK, I googled "Mitch McConnell"-------------lots there---------now what? I could spend all day looking------I like Mitch, but I still don't know what you are referring too.

I think that the problem is people failing to act, not that they have been brain-washed, or simply don't know----in this day and age people KNOW what is going on if they care to look, or watch TV News and C-Span carefully--------it's not the old days anymore. Many things are being attributed to the Republicans, the Tea party, and the right-wingers, all of which I am in contact with, and I just don't see it other than on the kooky sites which few pay any mind too.

Barry

rts551 - 3-8-2014 at 06:29 PM

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

I'm not paranoid. I'm sad at what has developed.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Barry, you should have majored in something other than "College History".

Bajahowodd - 3-10-2014 at 04:58 PM

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--------- a vehicle to control the minds of folks using disinformation.

I'm not paranoid. I'm sad at what has developed.

------which is impossible to do, of course-------a pipe dream.

Barry

Barry, you should have majored in something other than "College History".

I like Barry, but your post made me laugh. :lol:

Barry A. - 3-10-2014 at 05:13 PM

I majored in Geography, minored in SW American History and Anthropology, and yes, I laughted too. It did not come out right!!!

:lol:

Barry

Bajahowodd - 3-11-2014 at 04:58 PM

Don't fret. We have all done the same. :lol:

Cisco - 3-28-2014 at 12:41 PM

NEXT TIME YOU CROSS LA LINEA

You might ask your friendly CBP officer about this:

"Woman was probed, cavity searched, & X-rayed when she tried to reenter the USA
Forced gynecological exams are the Drug War's newest tool.

Posted on December 19, 2013 by PSUSA in News
Vehicles are searched indiscriminately at a border checkpoint. (Source: Eric Gay/AP Photo)

Vehicles are searched indiscriminately at a border checkpoint. (Source: Eric Gay/AP Photo)

EL PASO, TX — An American woman was humiliated and sexually assaulted for hours when she tried to re-enter the United States at a checkpoint manned by U.S. border patrol agents. Suspecting she had drugs inside her orifices, the federal agents detained her, chained her to a table, and subjected her to a series of invasive and traumatic cavity searches, finger penetration, scans and X-rays… all without a warrant. She was then billed for the “services.”

The incident took place last year and has recently been brought to light by a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union. The victim is described as a petite 54-year-old U.S. citizen, identifying herself only as Jane Doe to protect her anonymity as a sexual assault victim. She is married and resides in Lovington, NM. She was traveling to visit a close family friend in Juarez, Mexico, who was recently deported. The lawsuit states that she makes the trip to visit him about once per month. This time, her return trip back into the United States at the Cordova Bridge near El Paso is not one she will ever forget.

A “Random” Checkpoint Search

When trying to cross into Texas, at approximately 2:00 p.m. on December 8th, 2012, she was stopped by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) agents at a border checkpoint. Jane Doe presented her passport and complied with the agents. She was not carrying any contraband, but was informed that she would be subjected to a “random screening” with drug dogs — since CBP is more focused on enforcing prohibition laws than they are with security.
A federal agent sniffs passing vehicles at a border checkpoint.

A federal agent sniffs passing vehicles at a border checkpoint.

Police dogs are infamous for resulting in false indications and can be trained to alert on command by corrupt handlers. Lo and behold, the canine signaled on her car.

Without consent, agents removed the woman from her vehicle and began to feel up her body. She was stripped, gawked at manually penetrated by the fingers of federal agents.

During the initial pat-down, an agent stuck a hand insider her waistband and pushed a “finger in the crevice of Ms. Doe’s buttocks.” She was “embarrassed and upset” at the procedure.

She was then lined up with a series of other people. Dogs walked up and down the line in true police state fashion. One of them lunged at her, landing its front paws on her torso, states the complaint. She was then grabbed and shoved into a private room. The document goes on:

“There, they ordered Ms. Doe to pull down her pants and crouch. She followed the order. One of the agents examined her anus with a flashlight. Ms. Doe was commanded to lean backwards in her crouched position. She again complied. One of the agents then parted Ms. Doe’s vulva with her hand, pressed her fingers into Ms. Doe’s vagina and visually examined her genitalia with a flashlight.”

Nothing was found after this invasive search. Not satisfied with the groping and finger penetration — which produced no evidence of any crime — Jane Doe was detained for even more invasive searches. She was re-dressed and her pant-cuffs were taped tightly to her legs. Nearly 2 hours after she pulled up to the checkpoint, CBP agents Portillo and Herrera hauled her away to University Medical Center of El Paso.

The agents told Jane Doe they planned to make her defecate in front of them. She asked if they had a warrant. They defiantly told her that they “did not need a warrant.”
(Source: Getty Images)

An Afternoon of Forced Medical Procedures

At 4:29 p.m. she arrived at University Medical Center. She was led to a room by the CBP agents and chained to a table, where Dr. Christopher Cabanillas and Dr. Michael Parsa joined the federal agents in the hunt for drugs inside her body.

Once again proving the truth of the Milgram experiment, doctors obeyed the perverse orders of the authorities, performing four more hours of shocking and humiliating procedures on the woman, who was shackled to a table. The procedures involved forcing her to defecate on command, probing her until she her orifices were raw, and scanning her body using radiation. The doctors were undeterred by the woman’s lack of consent and the lack of a detailed medical history.

gynecology-stirrupsJane Doe was then forced to consume a laxative and defecate in a portable toilet. No drugs were found.

Dr. Cabanillas, in consultation with Dr. Parsa, ordered an X-ray of Ms. Doe’s abdomen. The unwanted doses of radiation produced “[n]o evidence of radiopaque foreign bodies.”

Still, the nightmare continued. She was again shackled to an exam table and ordered to spread her legs and endure a forced gynecological exam. A “mortified” Ms. Doe was within view of passersby in the hallway as she was fingered and probed by the doctors, with the agents gawking nearby.

Dr. Parsa “inserted a speculum into Ms. Doe’s vagina and observed the interior cavity,” according to the complaint, and found no foreign objects. He then “stuck his fingers into Ms. Doe’s vagina while palpitating her abdomen.” Again, found nothing abnormal.
“The agents ran their fingers over her genitalia and checked inside of her pants. She was asked to undress. She was asked to squat and the agents peered into her cavities with flashlights and pressed their fingers into her genitalia.”
– Laura S. Ives, ACLU

Parsa then probed Ms. Doe’s anus with his fingers while Portillo and Herrera watched. Ms. Doe felt “that she was being treated less than human, like an animal.”

But it wasn’t over yet. The doctors ordered a CT scan of her abdomen and pelvis. In doing so, they forcibly exposed her to “between 150 and 1,100 times the radiation of a conventional x-ray, or around a year’s worth of exposure to radiation from both natural and artificial sources in the environment.”

The victim was then given two options. She could sign a consent form — despite the fact that she never consented to any searches — and CBP would cover the bill. The alternative was to refuse consent, and be billed for the hours of invasive searches. She refused, witnessed by a hospital employee known as Jessica R.

Finally, at around 8:00 p.m., she was released without charges.

A Painful Aftermath

Ms. Doe was traumatized by the procedures. “Her labia, vaginal opening, and anus were left raw and sore and she felt violated, demeaned and powerless as a result of the searches.”

She lives with the pain of a sexual assault victim, and “has not been able to be physically intimate with her husband.” She avoids public spaces and has become reclusive, and cries when she thinks about this incident.

By legal standards, she was raped. But her abusers are unlikely to face punishment since agents of government rarely are individually responsible for their official, on-duty crimes.

Rape is: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

– U.S. Department of Justice

To add insult to injury, she has been billed $5,000.00 for 4 hours of the doctors’ services, which she has refused to pay.

It has been repeatedly demonstrated that humans are likely to comply with “authorities” to almost every extreme imaginable. Without some kind of resistance training, hospital staff members are liable to comply with every invasive procedure if a person with a badge orders it. It appears that University Medical Center has no process for ensuring that hospital staff are trained to deal with law enforcement or to be observant of people’s constitutional rights. The doctors and the El Paso County Hospital Board were all named in a official complaint filed by the victim and the ACLU.

Doe’s lawsuit cites the following causes of action: unreasonable search and seizure, false arrest, false imprisonment, and deprivation of due process. She demands a jury trial.

Sadly, Ms. Doe isn’t the only victim of forced cavity searches by police and doctors. Multiple victims of forcibly anal probing recently came forward in a series of incidents in New Mexico, as reported by Police State USA. As the sickness of the police state pushes forward to absurd new levels, it is all the more evident that the laws and the agencies are in need of a major overhaul. The biggest enabler — The Drug War — should be ended outright, and justice should be brought upon the rapists that hide behind their shiny badges and lab coats."

Lot's of neat photos at: http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/woman-probed-cavity-searc...

Ateo - 3-28-2014 at 01:50 PM

This sounds way too crazy to be true.

That said, if this is true, these bastards should go to prison.

Cisco - 3-28-2014 at 04:33 PM

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This sounds way too crazy to be true.

That said, if this is true, these bastards should go to prison.

http://www.google.com/search?q=WOMAN+EXPERIENCES+CHECKPOINT+...

fficial&client=firefox-a

Numerous articles on it Jon.

These A-hole CBP think they're immune to everything (agents not charged because victims died in another country. Even the one with six CBP bullet holes in the back).

I put this out so we Nomads know what to expect from these cowboys, but do we do anything about it?

NO!

"That said, if this is true, these bastards should go to prison." Sure and should a lot others. What have you done? Contacted your representatives? Protested on the street?

Naw, we just eat it and the increasing lines and personal invasions of ourselves and our vehicles and families and hope hey don't chose 'us' as the next victim

This CBP and entire TSA Homeland Security thing is totally out of control.

Try thisi one so you'll see whats coming.

"TSA now “pre-screens” taxes, car registration, passport, job history, and more.
Nothing short of a criminal background check will allow you to travel in America."
http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/tsa-will-now-pre-screen-t...

Ateo - 3-28-2014 at 04:49 PM

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This sounds way too crazy to be true.

That said, if this is true, these bastards should go to prison.

http://www.google.com/search?q=WOMAN+EXPERIENCES+CHECKPOINT+...

I did the google search, but didn't see anything about this other than from the police state website. That doesn't make it untrue though. Maybe I'm just a marooon and can't google. :lol:

:LOL:

I do believe there is some crazy abuses going on.

Cisco - 3-28-2014 at 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Ateo

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Originally posted by Cisco

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Originally posted by Ateo
This sounds way too crazy to be true.

That said, if this is true, these bastards should go to prison.

http://www.google.com/search?q=WOMAN+EXPERIENCES+CHECKPOINT+...

I did the google search, but didn't see anything about this other than from the police state website. That doesn't make it untrue though. Maybe I'm just a marooon and can't google. :lol:

:LOL:

I do believe there is some crazy abuses going on.

Try these Jon:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/border-cavity-searc...

http://www.aclutx.org/2013/12/18/aclu-of-texas-and-new-mexic...

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-699280.html

Ateo - 3-28-2014 at 05:27 PM

Forced bowel movements. Dang.

OK, thanks for the links Cisco.

tripledigitken - 3-28-2014 at 05:50 PM

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Forced bowel movements. Dang.

OK, thanks for the links Cisco.

Cisco,

Yes, please keep those links coming.

Cisco - 3-30-2014 at 12:26 PM

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Forced bowel movements. Dang.

OK, thanks for the links Cisco.

Cisco,

Yes, please keep those links coming.

11 to one. CBP beating.

Could happen to any of us I guess. They still don't know the names of the agents involved.

Isn't there some psychological testing done on prospective CBP agents that would keep brutality out of their mission to protect our borders?

There is just too much of this going on and the agency is absolutely secretive about it.

"SAN YSIDRO - Dozens of immigrant rights activists marched Saturday afternoon at the San Ysidro border crossing to ask for justice for an immigrant who was badly injured during a confrontation with Arizona border patrol agents three years ago.

On March 30, 2011, Jose Gutierrez was allegedly beaten into a coma by 11 Custom and Border Protection (CBP) agents while attempting to cross back into the United States at the San Luis Port of Entry."

http://www.10news.com/news/protesters-mark-3-year-anniversar...

NO It Couldn't !

MrBillM - 3-30-2014 at 02:50 PM

Happen to ANY of us.

It might happen to the Cisco crowd.

And be Deserved.