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Traffic ticket in Tijuana

antny1963 - 3-23-2014 at 07:39 PM

What happens to your CA drivers license if you do not pay a traffic ticket from Tijuana? Does that get reported to the DMV in CA? Some people have said they have new agreements with the state, others say that it does not work. Any opinions?

Traffic ticket

bajaguy - 3-23-2014 at 07:50 PM

Pay it by mail

yellowklr - 3-23-2014 at 08:13 PM

no it doesn't get reported to CA DMV

NO CHANCE AT ALL

gnukid - 3-23-2014 at 09:39 PM

It goes on your permanent tourist record along with how many tacos you eat and how many beers and tequilas

antny1963 - 3-23-2014 at 10:15 PM

That sucks! I would hate to screw up my perfect taco/beer/tequila record :)

tjsue - 3-23-2014 at 11:17 PM

You'll never see a paper ticket in Tijuana, but you will see the policia telling you how much you have to pay. If you don't have the money on you, your vehicle will go away.

redhilltown - 3-24-2014 at 12:22 AM

Having "paid" a few, I can't imagine getting away WITHOUT paying????????

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 12:53 AM

No, I got a paper ticket today and I have in the past. Some of them try and hold out for mordida but I don't pay that. I had two try to harass me in to paying for having tinted windows, even though I had CA plates. That didn't go their way either. They are much easier to deal with then cops from the states that is for sure. But their corrupt system can backfire on them as well. Once after the laws were changed, they said I needed to go to the station and take care of a ticket even though I knew dam well that they could just issue a paper ticket. Once at the station they said the judge wasn't in (it was early in the morning for work) and wanted me to just pay them. I told them to keep my license; it was cheaper to replace then paying them. That I would also report them to Sindicatura. They eventually gave back my documents and let me go on my way. Most of the time they are bullchit and they know it. Their corruption is their undoing.

chuckie - 3-24-2014 at 03:36 AM

Just put 5 bucks in the 2 lb coffee can on the post at the border. Its labeled "mordida"......Prepay, and be on your way......Nada Problema

mtgoat666 - 3-24-2014 at 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by antny1963
I had two try to harass me in to paying for having tinted windows, even though I had CA plates. That didn't go their way either.


Having CA plates does not exempt you from local laws when you travel outside of CA. Tinted windows are illegal. From the tone of your writing, perhaps you attract tickets for good reason.

absinvestor - 3-24-2014 at 07:14 AM

mtgoat666= I think you've hit the nail on the head with your assessment.

BajaBlanca - 3-24-2014 at 07:17 AM

But then again, we were pulled over in Mexico City when literally thousands of cars zoomed by with the same tinted windows we had.

And if we all stopped paying mordidas, we would rid Mexico of this type of corruption.

Also, I forewarn those who are traveling further south, be sure to drive slowly and carefully in G Negro. Not even our Mexican friend got out of a $400 speeding ticket. Talk about OUCH.

DENNIS - 3-24-2014 at 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Not even our Mexican friend got out of a $400 speeding ticket. Talk about OUCH.



Is that Ps...or Ds?

absinvestor - 3-24-2014 at 08:12 AM

I might be all alone here but I wish there was a little more enforcement of their traffic laws. For example we are currently in Huatabampito. The motel we are staying at is directly across the street from the police station. The street has several entrances to the beach and is clearly marked 20km/hr. The police station is open 24 hrs a day and many times the police are outside talking, smoking etc. Cars and ATV's fly by at 50 and 60mph and nothing is done. The same is true of the beaches. Cars are permitted to drive on the beach and even with kids and dogs playing on the beach cars often race many times passing a police SUV that is enjoying the water view!! I'm not talking about the stops made for minor infractions but with no enforcement things get out of hand.

SlyOnce - 3-24-2014 at 08:59 AM

I know you can pay your TJ paper tickets by mail and there is a San Diego PO Box address.

vgabndo - 3-24-2014 at 10:41 AM

Unequal application of the law can be very unsettling. In Bahia Asuncion I am required to wear my helmet while riding my quad. It is OBVIOUSLY optional for EVERYONE else. It changed my whole attitude because two thirds of the police were present and no one said to the officious little turd that he was being a racist or anti-tourism.

The funny part was that the kid stumbled all over himself trying to threaten me in English. I finally had to ask him to make himself clear, if he could, in Spanish. I also tend to resent the assumption that I've come to his country without being able to communicate in the native language!

DavidE - 3-24-2014 at 11:22 AM

Yah, I had a female transita tell me it is an infaccion to not wear seat belts in Asuncion, I asked her (I Spanish) At 10 km/hr? The 2 transitos within ear shot broke out laughing. A transito imported from elsewhere in the minicipio stopped me twice in a week to check my driver license.

(In Spanish) You checked me last week, remember? Or do we all look alike to you? The local cops howled standing on the curb.

motoged - 3-24-2014 at 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
..... I also tend to resent the assumption that I've come to his country without being able to communicate in the native language!



Perry,
Next time we see one another in BA, is it okay if we converse in English???? I would have you scratching your head....or shaking it...:rolleyes: :no: if you relied on my Spanish.......:saint::biggrin:

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 11:50 AM

No, I explained to the officer that if I would to visit Illinois with my CA plate, my windows would be illegal there too but since my plates are registered elsewhere, that law would not apply to me. The same logic here applies. I told them my car is not registered to Baja and therefore the requirement to have non-tinted windows does not apply to me since I am within the law in CA. That was the end of it. You say that applies to everyone; it does not. They can't enforce certain laws on me because my car is registered to CA and not Baja. They can enforce laws over my actions on how I drive but not whether or not my car is legal in their eyes. Just like when you cross the border, they never ask for your insurance papers like they do in the U.S. even though it is now the law there. Why is that?

vgabndo - 3-24-2014 at 11:50 AM

David your Spanish is much better than mine, And I make a point not to poke my stick at sleeping dogs, but I AM prepared to point to my helmet and then to the bare heads of the children racing their quads in front of the cop truck here on my street for whatever effect that may have!:lol:

DENNIS - 3-24-2014 at 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by antny1963
but since my plates are registered elsewhere, that law would not apply to me. The same logic here applies. I told them my car is not registered to Baja and therefore the requirement to have non-tinted windows does not apply to me since I am within the law in CA.



You can't really believe this. :?::?:

DENNIS - 3-24-2014 at 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by antny1963
Just like when you cross the border, they never ask for your insurance papers like they do in the U.S. even though it is now the law there. Why is that?


They aren't traffic cops and prefer not to do DMV work.
I've never been asked for proof of insurance going into the US either.

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 11:58 AM

It isn't that I have an attitude. I am just tired of all their bull. In Tijuana, people constantly fly threw red lights and stop signs, cut people off, and do all sorts of crazy things and I never see a cop around then. I know enforcement is selective and based on who you are. I'm just saying that I don't let them push me around on things I know better. Most of the time I have no problems in TJ. I was once wanting to get my mexican citizenship but I gave up on that idea. It was fun here at first but now it is the same boring bull that will never change down here. I have decided to finish up my time here while in school and then I will probably move back to the states afterwards. Nothing down here makes it that great to have to put up with all the corruption and bad customer service. I HAD a bank account with Banorte and that was a HUGE mistake as well. I am still fighting with them.

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 12:01 PM

You need to report them to Sindicatura or whomever. That will set them straight when their jobs are on the line.

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 12:03 PM

Yeah, you don't have to be a lawyer to figure that out do you? My grandfather was a judge back in Illinois and the same applies here. If you drive through a state where your car's tinting is not legal in that state but it is legal in your home state, they can't enforce the tinting laws on you. If you change plates to the new jurisdiction, then they would but not until then.

antny1963 - 3-24-2014 at 12:05 PM

if you ever get pulled to secondary they will. I have Sentri and it is a requirement to have insurance at all times.

DavidE - 3-24-2014 at 12:44 PM

I love reading these threads. It sure helps me understand why the cop that pulls me over has a chip on their shoulder.

Who is a cop going to pull over? A Mexican in a beater who is going to end up in a 320 minute argument to extract 100-pesos from or a rich gringo who after they swing their handcuffs or pat their holster will (will possibly) let fly with 100-dollar bills?

paranewbi - 3-24-2014 at 12:45 PM

Hey who is this guy antny1963?
I say we vote him outta here...
He actually has a mind.

vgabndo - 3-24-2014 at 12:53 PM

More often than not I get sent to secondary, in 20 years I've never had either of my vehicle insurance policies checked anywhere near the border. Just my own experience.

Edit to respond to paranubi. The contention that the California vehicle code takes precedence over Mexican law does not seem to me to be accurate, nor does it seem logical. And, expecting even-handed enforcement of Mexican law doesn't seem too mindful.

As an aside...I recently read the UN Human Rights statement, which I believe holds sway in Mexico, and it forbids Napoleonic Law.:lol:

[Edited on 3-24-2014 by vgabndo]

mtgoat666 - 3-24-2014 at 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by antny1963
Yeah, you don't have to be a lawyer to figure that out do you? My grandfather was a judge back in Illinois and the same applies here. If you drive through a state where your car's tinting is not legal in that state but it is legal in your home state, they can't enforce the tinting laws on you.


have your grandpa come here and defend your assertion that california cars are exempt from mexican regulations. i eagerly await his defense

msteve1014 - 3-24-2014 at 01:05 PM

They started enforcing that law in La Bocana around Christmas time. I was sure they were just after money. No one I talked to actually paid a fine, and they were pulling over EVERYONE. Race had nothing to do with it. Within a week we all had helmets on. I got some smiles from people with my super go-fast off road racing helmet going 5 mph on my ct 90.
Quote:
Originally posted by vgabndo
Unequal application of the law can be very unsettling. In Bahia Asuncion I am required to wear my helmet while riding my quad. It is OBVIOUSLY optional for EVERYONE else. It changed my whole attitude because two thirds of the police were present and no one said to the officious little turd that he was being a racist or anti-tourism.

The funny part was that the kid stumbled all over himself trying to threaten me in English. I finally had to ask him to make himself clear, if he could, in Spanish. I also tend to resent the assumption that I've come to his country without being able to communicate in the native language!

dasubergeek - 3-24-2014 at 02:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by antny1963
It isn't that I have an attitude. I am just tired of all their bull. In Tijuana, people constantly fly threw red lights and stop signs, cut people off, and do all sorts of crazy things and I never see a cop around then. I know enforcement is selective and based on who you are.


Now you know how visible minorities (meaning people who don't look like white folks) feel in the United States.

Bob H - 3-24-2014 at 02:51 PM

I got a paper speeding ticket about 8 or 9 years ago entering TJ on the pay road. Fine was 400 pesos, but I never paid it. I'm now wondering if I'm still in a computer somewhere down there if I get pulled over again. It's been years!

chuckie - 3-24-2014 at 03:09 PM

Nah! You got an attitude.........

tjsue - 3-24-2014 at 04:02 PM

The first three months I lived in Tijuana, I was sent to secondary every time I crossed the border. When I drove, I was never asked for proof of insurance, only license and registration, and those not every time, either.

motoged - 3-24-2014 at 04:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by paranewbi
Hey who is this guy antny1963?
I say we vote him outta here...
He actually has a mind.



Uhhhh.....and that says what about you? :biggrin: Or me? :?:

BajaNomad - 3-24-2014 at 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by SlyOnce
I know you can pay your TJ paper tickets by mail and there is a San Diego PO Box address.



Quote:

If you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation in Tijuana, Rosarito Beach or Ensenada, you should always politely insist on a written citation that you could pay either at the police station or by mail.

Tickets in the City of Tijuana can be paid by sending a check or money order made out to:
H. Ayuntamiento de Tijuana
416 West San Ysidro Blvd. Suite “L”, No.725
San Ysidro CA 92143

Tickets issued in Rosarito Beach, can be paid by sending a check or money order made out to:
H. Ayuntamiento de Rosarito
P.O. Box 439016
San Ysidro, CA 92143-9016.

Tickets issued in Ensenada can be paid by sending a check or money order made out to:
Municipio de Ensenada
PMB 147 P.O. Box 189003
Coronado, CA 92178-9003

Tickets issued in Mexicali can be paid by sending a check or money order with ticket made out to:
H. Ayuntamiento de Mexicali
P.B. 6027
23 Paulin Ave.
Calexico, Ca. 92231-2646

For the cities of San Felipe and Tecate, traffic fines must be paid at the police station.

Source:
http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/2012/index.php/tourist... ("Traffic Ticket")

paranewbi - 3-24-2014 at 06:57 PM

Motoged
"Uhhhh.....and that says what about you? or me?"

It's more founded on what I observe.

The more denial, argument, bickering, discounting of a posters offering and/or experience by the usual suspects here (as their count rises)

Usually is relevant to the level of analysis, pondering and attempt to draw conclusions from evidence, of the offeror.

ergo: it must say more about you :)

bajalearner - 3-25-2014 at 02:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by absinvestor
I might be all alone here but I wish there was a little more enforcement of their traffic laws. For example we are currently in Huatabampito. The motel we are staying at is directly across the street from the police station. The street has several entrances to the beach and is clearly marked 20km/hr. The police station is open 24 hrs a day and many times the police are outside talking, smoking etc. Cars and ATV's fly by at 50 and 60mph and nothing is done. The same is true of the beaches. Cars are permitted to drive on the beach and even with kids and dogs playing on the beach cars often race many times passing a police SUV that is enjoying the water view!! I'm not talking about the stops made for minor infractions but with no enforcement things get out of hand.


You might be happier living in california because there is much enforcement of all sorts of laws. Maybe Mexico is not your type of living.