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BoLA med evac report

larryC - 5-13-2014 at 07:13 AM

Recently a friend suffered a head injury causing unconsciousness and afterwards blurred vision, headaches and nausea. This is what she experienced and wrote about the experience:


Below is an actual scenario when Divers Alert Network was recently contacted for a medical evacuation from Bahia de los Angeles , Baja California.


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DAN was contacted at approx. 10:00PM on a Sunday night using their emergency 24/7 hotline number: (919) 684-9111.
A DAN representative asked for the following information:
1. Name of the person needing evacuation and DAN Membership
number
2. The nature of the medical emergency and current symptoms.
3. How the injury occurred?
4. The date of the injury?
5. If a local medical doctor had been contacted. (In this case an MD/friend of the patient had been contacted and made initial contact with DAN directly)
NOTE: Due to the fact that Mexico does not allow night flights into uncontrolled airports DAN was unable to fly in after dark. However had the emergency been deemed life threatening DAN would have arranged ground transportation to the nearest controlled airstrip or qualified hospital.
* At 8:00 AM the following morning the patient called DAN's non-emergency number (919) 446-2671. The person who answered said the emergency night staff had been working on transport arrangements and transferred the patient to the Emergency Hotline extension. The emergency representative was immediately familiar with the case and transferred the patient to a DAN doctor.
The doctor asked the following questions:
1. Explain how the injury occurred
2. Date of the injury
3. Symptoms
4. List of current medications and brief medical history
5. Whether there was a local doctor or clinic.
In the case of BoLA the local clinic rotates residents through but there was no physician currently at the clinic.

6. Is there anyone currently with the patient who can assist with the patient's immediate needs. The patient was instructed to not be alone, stay calm and rest as much as possible?
7. The doctor asked if the patient was on a dive vacation? The answer was no, just on vacation.
8. The doctor ordered evacuation by medical care flight that day and requested the Emergency Assist representative to find the closest hospital with CAT scan abilities.
*The patient's call was then transferred to the Travel Assist Representative who asked the following:
1. Where the patient's home residence was located
2. The date of departure from the States, the date of arrival
in BoLA, and the expected date of departure.
3. Did the patient drive or fly into BoLA?
4. What will happen to the patient's vehicle?
5. Passport information: passport number, date of issue, date
of expiration
6. Medical insurance information: type of insurance and numbers
* The Travel Assist Rep said the staff was researching if any
hospitals in the area had CT machines. Initially they thought
they could transport the patient to Guerrero Negro or San
Quintin but the representative located the closest CT machine
in Tijuana so DAN decided to transport the patient to Sharp
hospital in San Diego.
The representative said since there was no phone service in BoLA they would continue all future discussion via email.
Approximately an hour later an email arrived from DAN stating they were working on a flight originating either out of San Diego or Guadalajara. About an hour later another email arrived saying the flight was approved out of Guadalajara. 2 more emails followed stating approximate landing times with the final email stating the flight would land in approx 1 hour. Around 4 PM a Lear Jet landed at the BoLA air strip with 2 pilots and 2 CCA (critical care assessment) persons one of which was an ER physician and the other a nurse. The patient was placed on an ambulance cot in the jet with a pulse oximeter and blood pressure monitor. The patient was strapped in for take-off. Immediately after take-off the doctor took a health history, checked vitals, asked the patient about any pain, an IV was started, meds given for pain and nausea.
All personnel spoke English.
The jet landed at the Tijuana Airport, was met by MX Customs/Immigration, and within 10 mins the jet was airborne headed to Brown's Field in San Diego. In the US, Customs/Immigration met the plane, 5 mins later the San Diego ambulance's EMTs moved the patient to the ambulance. The MX physician, the MX nurse , and the US EMT traveled with the patient to the hospital ER in the ambulance. Upon arrival the patient was rolled into an ER cubicle, when the hospital nurse came in the MX physician relayed all pertinent information as did the U.S. EMT, at this time the MX doctor/nurse, and US EMTs departed. They referred to this as 'bed to bed service'.
Shortly after admittance in the hospital an International Patient Service Director came to see the patient. She asked:
1. Did the patient have any needs not being met?
2. How would the patient retrieve the vehicle left in Bahia?
3. When discharged where would the patient be staying?
She referred the patient to a Sheraton the hospital
had arrangements with for $89 per night.
4. Did the patient need any assistance with any of the above?
*DAN sent numerous emails starting the night of discharge asking the patient if they could assist with hotel accommodations, transportation locally and/or to return to the patient's home and/or to retrieve the vehicle in Baja.
Over the next 2 days DAN sent 4 more emails following up with the patient's health status, needs, and to offer assistance. On day 3 DAN asked again if there was anything they could do to help and if not would the patient feel comfortable with DAN closing the case.
This may be the best $55 ($35 for an individual) you will ever spend. diversalertnetwork.org
INFORMATION REGARDING THE DIVERS ALERT NETWORK
MEMBERSHIP FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY EVACUATION
Divers Alert Network (DAN) Membership for $35 per individual / $55 for a family membership per year includes emergency and non emergency evacuation from anywhere in the World. The main criteria is you must be more than 50 miles from home.
**Please note: Emergency evacuation with DAN is a function of their Membership and NOT the optional DAN insurance.

End of story.

I have been a DAN member for 30 years or so but have always wondered what would actually happen down here if I or my wife really needed help. I feel a lot better now that someone has tested the system for me.

elgatoloco - 5-13-2014 at 07:58 AM

We are members. Thanks for sharing the story. Good to know.

vgabndo - 5-13-2014 at 08:00 AM

I keep my DAN policy number and other insurance information in my pouch with my passport, and two neighbors know where to find it. This is excellent news about DAN, and from the sounds of things, a good outcome in the emergency you describe. Bravo, 'health' insurance anyone can value. Thanks for sharing.

David K - 5-13-2014 at 08:15 AM

Impressive!

Terry28 - 5-13-2014 at 10:08 AM

This sounds really great..but...Where in the Bay of La. could/can a lear jet land and take off?? I most have missed that when I was there last.

chuckie - 5-13-2014 at 10:13 AM

Are you planning on flying your Lear to Bay LA or just raking mud?

Terry28 - 5-13-2014 at 10:26 AM

I am asking a question. How is that mud raking? I just don't see a private jet landing there. Now crawl back into your hole...

LancairDriver - 5-13-2014 at 10:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Terry28
I am asking a question. How is that mud raking? I just don't see a private jet landing there. Now crawl back into your hole...


Bay of La airstrip is a paved 4,846 ft x 75 ft wide, more than enough for a Lear to get in and out of. The newer Lear's are legal for 4,000 ft and a skilled pilot can get a Lear in and out in 3,000 ft or slightly less. Lightly loaded of course.

Terry28 - 5-13-2014 at 11:42 AM

Chuckie, I apologize for the smart remark, that was not warranted. I just have never seen the paved air strip there...where is it?

24baja - 5-13-2014 at 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Terry28
Chuckie, I apologize for the smart remark, that was not warranted. I just have never seen the paved air strip there...where is it?


North of town at the first corner, go straight on dirt road past the school and you will run right into the airport.

DavidE - 5-13-2014 at 12:54 PM

Superb Documentation. I guess it's my eyesight can a reader determine the hour and date of injury and the hour and date of entry into Sharps ER? Yes, this is a serious question.

redmesa - 5-13-2014 at 03:14 PM

This sounds great but it did take over 20 hours to arrive in San Diego after initial contact. How long would it take to drive to San Diego from BoLA? I guess it all depends on the specific emergency involved and the time of day?

larryC - 5-13-2014 at 03:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
Superb Documentation. I guess it's my eyesight can a reader determine the hour and date of injury and the hour and date of entry into Sharps ER? Yes, this is a serious question.


DavidE
I don't see where she documented the arrival time at the ER but she called at 10pm on a Sunday night and the plane arrived at 4pm the next day. From here to TJ is probably an hour or so in a Lear, and then just a few mins to Brown Field and probably 30 minutes to Sharp hosp in Kearney Mesa from Brown down near Chula Vista by ambulance. I'm guessing that's the Sharp they took her to. The date of injury was a day or so before she called on Sunday. She kept hoping the blurred vision and headaches would go away and when they didn't she called. I'll ask her to get me the info. Better yet I'll send her a link to this page and maybe she will register and answer the question herself.
Larry

Redmesa
I guess it could have gone quicker, and would have been nice had they been ready to land at first light but probably they took into consideration that it didn't appear to be a life threatening injury. I'm just impressed that for $35 a year we can have that type of service available to us here in Baja.
Larry

[Edited on 5-13-2014 by larryC]

JZ - 5-13-2014 at 03:21 PM

Good to know that they would pickup in BoLA.

And also that she didn't need to be first transferred to a hospital or clinic in Mexico to be stabilized. This seemed to be a requirement of Skymed. Not sure about MedJet.

CaboMagic - 5-13-2014 at 04:22 PM

I see you must be a DAN member to purchase insurance .. but must you be a diver or is this something that began for divers and has expanded ?

Thnx in advance for any info/explaination ..

woody with a view - 5-13-2014 at 05:09 PM

I think you can join whether you are "diving" or not. it's insurance and the more people involved the better for the company right? spreads the risk.....

Whale-ista - 5-13-2014 at 05:23 PM

Wow, this sounds like a great service at a great price!

I'm not familiar with DAN (my SCUBA cert has expired). Do they have a website that explains these policies? And does DAN cover anyone regardless of age/home/activity? Or do you need to be a participant on a DAN-organized SCUBA trip to purchase this type of medical evacuation insurance?

thank you for sharing with us.

DAN

bajaguy - 5-13-2014 at 05:26 PM

http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/

willardguy - 5-13-2014 at 05:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Whale-ista
Wow, this sounds like a great service at a great price!

I'm not familiar with DAN (my SCUBA cert has expired). Do they have a website that explains these policies? And does DAN cover anyone regardless of age/home/activity? Or do you need to be a participant on a DAN-organized SCUBA trip to purchase this type of medical evacuation insurance?

thank you for sharing with us.
scuba certificate expired?? whats up with that!

Marc - 5-13-2014 at 05:33 PM

My DAN policy expired while back. Think I will renew tomorrow.

redmesa - 5-13-2014 at 05:41 PM

I have checked into and been insure with a variety of groups. I have called their emergency number before I had an emergency to see how quickly they answered. There are insurance groups that will helicopter you out of a remote area even. It is amazing that a jet could land at BoLA, awesome. Unfortunately, many places in Baja have no such landing strip so... For the price it does seem totally advisable but I definitely have a plan B and a plan C when I am in Baja.

Evac

bajaguy - 5-13-2014 at 05:56 PM

I will probably go with DAN, however will also have my SPOT evac insurance as either primary or back-up depending on situation

JZ - 5-13-2014 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by redmesa
I have checked into and been insure with a variety of groups. I have called their emergency number before I had an emergency to see how quickly they answered. There are insurance groups that will helicopter you out of a remote area even. It is amazing that a jet could land at BoLA, awesome. Unfortunately, many places in Baja have no such landing strip so... For the price it does seem totally advisable but I definitely have a plan B and a plan C when I am in Baja.


Which ones.

redmesa - 5-13-2014 at 06:17 PM

Good question, JZ. The ones that come to my mind now are skymed, geomed, world insurance... Their names are very similar but I thought it is a reminder to check carefully and double book. If you are really interested I could look through my papers for names but they are readily available on the internet. My husband recently died in Hawaii so I am waiting to see if the insurance pays out.

David K - 5-13-2014 at 06:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 24baja
Quote:
Originally posted by Terry28
Chuckie, I apologize for the smart remark, that was not warranted. I just have never seen the paved air strip there...where is it?


North of town at the first corner, go straight on dirt road past the school and you will run right into the airport.


Looking North:



BajaBlanca - 5-13-2014 at 07:01 PM

Simply amazing story. Thanks for sharing.

Whale-ista - 5-13-2014 at 07:07 PM

I was a NAUI certified diver many years ago, but have not kept current. Most of my gear was stolen from my house in Ensenada so I've pretty much only snorkeled since then.

I looked over the DAN website (thank you for the link) and they cover snorkeling and kayaking in their policy, as well as diving, in their medical evacuation plans. So I may join before my June trip to Cabo Pulmo, and sign up for their insurance plan.
Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
Quote:
Originally posted by Whale-ista
Wow, this sounds like a great service at a great price!

I'm not familiar with DAN (my SCUBA cert has expired). Do they have a website that explains these policies? And does DAN cover anyone regardless of age/home/activity? Or do you need to be a participant on a DAN-organized SCUBA trip to purchase this type of medical evacuation insurance?

thank you for sharing with us.
scuba certificate expired?? whats up with that!

bajaasgal63 - 5-14-2014 at 12:08 AM

LarryC asked me to reply to some of the questions asked on this forum about my medical evacuation.

Several people referred to DAN insurance. The medical evacuation is a benefit of the DAN membership and NOT from the insurance they offer. You do not have to be a diver or have a dive related problem with the membership benefits.

Due to MX not allowing night flights into uncontrolled runways the decision was made to wait till morning to evacuate me. Had my situation been life threatening or deteriorated during the night DAN told me they would have arranged for ground transportation.

*0800 I called DAN with request to transport.
*0903 DAN to me: I am writing from the medical assistance department with Divers Alert Network. I have been working with our medical staff this morning in regards to locating the closest facility where you would be able to receive a CT Scan.
There are not a lot of options that are anywhere close to where you are located and we are looking at trying to get you to a higher level of care for further evaluation.
However, before we can move forward with any kind of transfer our medical staff would like to speak with you to obtain further details about the head injury you sustained. Please call us back as soon as possible.
*1105: DAN to me: I wanted to advise that we are working to get some final logistics together for your air ambulance transfer from Mexico. You are going to Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego, Dr. John Roth will be the physician in the ER this evening.
We just got approval to move forward with the air ambulance transfer. I will provide a flight itinerary as soon as it is received from my air ambulance provider so you know when to arrive at the airport in Bahia.
*1247 DAN to me: I just got confirmation from our air ambulance company that they are on their way to Hermosillo so to fuel the aircraft since they won’t be able to fuel in Bahia. From Hermosillo to Bahia it is about a 50 minute flight so I will update you once they leave Hermosillo.
*1434 DAN to me: We received information the aircraft will be arriving to the airport in approximately an hour. Please let us know if you have any questions or if there are any issues with getting to the airport within the next hour.
*1600 the air ambulance arrived.

It did take 8 hours from the initial morning call to the time of aircraft arrival but driving to San Diego would have taken at least that amount of time. I also did not believe my head would tolerate the jarring.

I have a friend in La Paz, without DAN membership, who had been in the hospital in La Paz but not improving; 2 friends rented a van, hired a nurse, and drove 22 hours to a hospital in San Diego.

Not perfect but that was a lot of bang for only $35 per year.

How to sign up for DAN membership & not insurance

bajaasgal63 - 5-14-2014 at 12:28 AM

diversalertnetwork.org

Page 1. Click on upper right corner: Join/Renew
Page 2. Click on the Join button
Page 3. Enter all your information, click on bottom right of page, blue button: Insurance Choices
Page 4. Near the top of the Membership & Insurance Page there is a drop down box which says: select dive accident coverage. Click on that box and you will see the bottom option is: No dive accident insurance select that box, then select the Payment box

mtgoat666 - 5-14-2014 at 06:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaasgal63
LarryC asked me to reply to some of the questions asked on this forum about my medical evacuation.

...

Not perfect but that was a lot of bang for only $35 per year.


Interesting,... Glad it worked out for you.

Was there an MD in BOLA verifying your injury and stability for transport? I have always thought that insurers will not dispatch air ambulance without first speaking to local med personnel to verify injury severity and verify patient is stabilized.

[Edited on 5-14-2014 by mtgoat666]

larryC - 5-14-2014 at 07:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboMagic
I see you must be a DAN member to purchase insurance .. but must you be a diver or is this something that began for divers and has expanded ?

Thnx in advance for any info/explaination ..


Dan is not an insurance company. So you are not buying insurance form them. They are more into dive medicine and research. The membership fee goes to supporting that research, but also includes the emergency evacuation from anywhere in the world as part of your membership. If you are a diver and want to be covered for dive related injuries then you can purchase through a DAN affiliate the dive insurance. That is substantially more money.
Hope this helps,
Larry
PS The emergency transportation is the only thing covered by DAN in this story, the hospital stay and tests will have to be paid for by the patient or their insurance company.

EnsenadaDr - 5-14-2014 at 07:59 AM

Has anyone heard of a "lucid interval"? This is the period in an epidural hematoma where the person sustaining a head injury appears ok. Case in point, Natasha Richardson. She fell and hit her head while skiing and appeared to be in the "not life threatening" situation. She is dead now, however. Anyone who loses consciousness is considered to have some type of serious head injury and in my opinion ground transportation should have been arranged for this person immediately to rule out a deadly injury especially with symptoms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidural_hematoma

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/story?id=7119825

The patient in the above scenario was VERY VERY lucky.

Could we have all health related posts posted in the Health and Wellness Section?



[Edited on 5-14-2014 by EnsenadaDr]

DavidE - 5-14-2014 at 09:45 AM

Does the expensive paved airstrip near San Bruno have military or other flights allowed to land for emergency medical reasons?

20 years ago a teenaged son of an acquaintance was stabbed three times (I believe they were from multiple stingrays) then managed to get tangled up with a Portuguese man-of-war as he cut a diagonal corner back to the beach. He was medi-vac'd from the mainland. The aircraft personnel told his mother (aboard) that they had to first land and get processed at customs. BTW one stab opened his thigh to the bone, the second pierced behind his knee and he lost feeling from the knee down. At the SD int'l I really believe a Customs and Immigration officer would actually meet a medi-vac aircraft, right in the taxi area. Customs may be a pain-in-the-bung at POE's but they sure show a totally different attitude in a medical emergency - from the school of hard knocks.

David K - 5-14-2014 at 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
Does the expensive paved airstrip near San Bruno have military or other flights allowed to land for emergency medical reasons?

20 years ago a teenaged son of an acquaintance was stabbed three times (I believe they were from multiple stingrays) then managed to get tangled up with a Portuguese man-of-war as he cut a diagonal corner back to the beach. He was medi-vac'd from the mainland. The aircraft personnel told his mother (aboard) that they had to first land and get processed at customs. BTW one stab opened his thigh to the bone, the second pierced behind his knee and he lost feeling from the knee down. At the SD int'l I really believe a Customs and Immigration officer would actually meet a medi-vac aircraft, right in the taxi area. Customs may be a pain-in-the-bung at POE's but they sure show a totally different attitude in a medical emergency - from the school of hard knocks.


Last I heard it was open to civil aviation... called Palo Verde and in the middle of nowhere, almost!

mtgoat666 - 5-14-2014 at 01:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by larryC
Quote:
Originally posted by CaboMagic
I see you must be a DAN member to purchase insurance .. but must you be a diver or is this something that began for divers and has expanded ?

Thnx in advance for any info/explaination ..


Dan is not an insurance company. So you are not buying insurance form them.


you say potatoe, i say potato! so DAN members get a benefit that is functionally equivalent to (or very similar to) medivac insurance, eh? do you think DAN pays for this out of operating funds? or do you think DAN buys it's own insurance to limit it's own risk? wondering....

bajaasgal63 - 5-14-2014 at 02:20 PM

You are welcome, hopefully my experience will help others.

The membership vs insurance seems to be a very confusing issue for people. The DAN membership includes medical evacuation/assistance... it is NOT an insurance policy. It is open enrollment for anyone who pays $35 for individual or $55 for a family, you do not need to be a diver or need to be anywhere near water to use the evacuation/assistance offered thru DAN membership. If you are a diver and want to purchase additional diver's insurance you may do so but it is not necessary for DAN medical/evacuation. Please see my prior post regarding how to sign up for ONLY membership not insurance.

Mtgoat666, the membership (vs insurance) evacuation does require a doctor to order the evacuation, since there was no doctor available in town DAN's doctor spoke to me on the phone and made the decision.

Ensenadadr, I agree I was very very lucky.

The good news is I am doing well, every day there is improvement and the world no longer spins whenever I turn my head.

bajaasgal63

bajaguy - 5-14-2014 at 02:39 PM

Do you know if DAN coordinated with the Sharp Hospital International Patient Services department?????

If so, can you comment on what assistance Sharp provided during your evacuation and transport???

EnsenadaDr - 5-14-2014 at 03:45 PM

should have been an immediate ground assistance with ambulance at the very least. I wonder if Antonio's ambulance service is still up and running and what the closest hospital is to BOLA that handles trauma patients. I guess Cruz Roja is the ambulance service in BOLA. If you don't mind me asking, what was the final diagnosis?
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaasgal63
You are welcome, hopefully my experience will help others.

The membership vs insurance seems to be a very confusing issue for people. The DAN membership includes medical evacuation/assistance... it is NOT an insurance policy. It is open enrollment for anyone who pays $35 for individual or $55 for a family, you do not need to be a diver or need to be anywhere near water to use the evacuation/assistance offered thru DAN membership. If you are a diver and want to purchase additional diver's insurance you may do so but it is not necessary for DAN medical/evacuation. Please see my prior post regarding how to sign up for ONLY membership not insurance.

Mtgoat666, the membership (vs insurance) evacuation does require a doctor to order the evacuation, since there was no doctor available in town DAN's doctor spoke to me on the phone and made the decision.

Ensenadadr, I agree I was very very lucky.

The good news is I am doing well, every day there is improvement and the world no longer spins whenever I turn my head.

bajaasgal63 - 5-14-2014 at 11:28 PM

Bajaguy: I can only assume DAN coordinated with the International Patient Service Dept as the director, Jackie Schwoerke, met me in the ER shortly after I arrived. A delightful person.

Ensenadadr: I completely agree with you about needing to be transported right away as did my radiologist friend and the 2 family member physicians involved. Had I been in the States I would have called 911. It was a betwixt and between situation. My estimate is it would have been close to 0300 by the time all arrangements were made and an ambulance arrived, then an 8-10 hr drive at minimum to Tijuana, which was the closest CT machine. Never having used DAN evacuation before I did not know how long it would take to get an air ambulance to Bahia. Believe me, it was not a restful decision but made the most sense with the information we had at that time. I am very fortunate the CT was negative. I was extremely impressed with DAN, the personnel and the service they offered. Living or vacationing off grid so to speak has its challenges and risks. I find great comfort knowing DAN is there even in a remote place without many options.

EnsenadaDr - 5-15-2014 at 06:22 AM

Wow that is certainly sobering that the closest CT scan was in Tijuana. But didn't you mention you had a radiology friend? Was this a physician or just a radiology tech?
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaasgal63
You are welcome, hopefully my experience will help others.

The membership vs insurance seems to be a very confusing issue for people. The DAN membership includes medical evacuation/assistance... it is NOT an insurance policy. It is open enrollment for anyone who pays $35 for individual or $55 for a family, you do not need to be a diver or need to be anywhere near water to use the evacuation/assistance offered thru DAN membership. If you are a diver and want to purchase additional diver's insurance you may do so but it is not necessary for DAN medical/evacuation. Please see my prior post regarding how to sign up for ONLY membership not insurance.

Mtgoat666, the membership (vs insurance) evacuation does require a doctor to order the evacuation, since there was no doctor available in town DAN's doctor spoke to me on the phone and made the decision.

Ensenadadr, I agree I was very very lucky.

The good news is I am doing well, every day there is improvement and the world no longer spins whenever I turn my head.

Pacifico - 5-15-2014 at 07:45 AM

Thanks for posting this first hand experience! I just joined....

woody with a view - 5-15-2014 at 07:56 PM

yep, gonna join tomorrow. no, REALLY!

elgatoloco - 5-15-2014 at 08:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by redmesa
Good question, JZ. The ones that come to my mind now are skymed, geomed, world insurance... Their names are very similar but I thought it is a reminder to check carefully and double book. If you are really interested I could look through my papers for names but they are readily available on the internet. My husband recently died in Hawaii so I am waiting to see if the insurance pays out.


My sympathies for the loss of your husband.

bajaasgal63 - 5-15-2014 at 09:42 PM

Ensenadadr: my radiologist friend is a physician in Phoenix.

I'm glad LarryC asked me to join in this discussion. I think all of us who love and spend time in Baja have wondered, what if... Glad to read many of you have joined DAN, I'll be a lifetime member. Buena suerte

24baja - 5-15-2014 at 09:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaasgal63
Ensenadadr: my radiologist friend is a physician in Phoenix.

I'm glad LarryC asked me to join in this discussion. I think all of us who love and spend time in Baja have wondered, what if... Glad to read many of you have joined DAN, I'll be a lifetime member. Buena suerte


Based on your testimony we joined DAN the next day. Thanks for sharing your experience! Connie and Brett