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Mulege Oasis on a map

Kgryfon - 6-25-2014 at 11:05 AM

I've been trying to pinpoint "the oasis" on a Mulege map and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Is it on the same riverbank as the Hotel Serenidad? Up stream? Downstream? Help appreciated!

mtnpop - 6-25-2014 at 11:23 AM

Yes it on the south side or the same side as the Serenidad..
coming out of town first The Orchard, then The Oasis, Jungle Jims, Cuestal Real, etc, etc,,
Most all of the south side developments are toward town from the Serenidad.
There are signs on the highway at the entrances.....
The Serenidad is almost to the bay/lighthouse area...
good luck

motoged - 6-25-2014 at 11:44 AM

I always considered the fact that there was a river and palms in the middle of rocky desert enough to think the town was an oasis.

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the English band, see Oasis (band). For other uses, see Oasis (disambiguation).
This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (December 2009)
Oasis in the Libyan part of the Sahara

In geography, an oasis (plural: oases) or cienega (Southwestern United States) is an isolated area of vegetation in a desert, typically surrounding a spring or similar water source. Oases also provide habitat for animals and even humans if the area is big enough. The location of oases has been of critical importance for trade and transportation routes in desert areas; caravans must travel via oases so that supplies of water and food can be replenished. Thus, political or military control of an oasis has in many cases meant control of trade on a particular route. For example, the oases of Awjila, Ghadames, and Kufra, situated in modern-day Libya, have at various times been vital to both North-South and East-West trade in the Sahara.
An oasis in the Negev Desert

Oases are formed from underground rivers or aquifers such as an artesian aquifer, where water can reach the surface naturally by pressure or by man-made wells. Occasional brief thunderstorms provide subterranean water to sustain natural oases, such as the Tuat. Substrata of impermeable rock and stone can trap water and retain it in pockets, or on long faulting subsurface ridges or volcanic dikes water can collect and percolate to the surface. Any incidence of water is then used by migrating birds, which also pass seeds with their droppings which will grow at the water's edge forming an oasis."

Mulegena - 6-25-2014 at 11:56 AM

The oasis is Mulege is the oasis.

There's a natural upwelling of fresh groundwater here which is the source of life in this harsh desert landscape; hence Mulege is a true oasis. The principal upwelling of water (poso) is upriver and east of the mission. The native fan palms thrive around it, bamboo clings to the edges, and both are crafted as textiles still in use in home construction. Date palms were introduced by the Franciscan monks years ago and there are expansive orchards east of town. Through the ages this greenery has continued to flourish. This fresh water pools and runs slowly east where it mixes with the sea and becomes brackish, which is called El Rio de Santa Rosalia de Mulege.

On both sides of the river you'll see remnants of the narrow canals that transported this freshwater down through the various neighborhoods (colonias). Out in Loma Azul, the colonia by the lighthouse, there are still posos. They are not presently in use and are covered up. Neither the canals or the neighborhood posos are used because the town now supplies water to most neighborhoods through more modern means; there's also good purified water for sale, too. My husband remembers when the canals and posos were in use and before electricity was available. He also recalls life here before the highway was completed. I, myself, remember when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Mulege's come a long way babee!

mtnpop - 6-25-2014 at 12:04 PM

Maybe I was wrong but I kind of thought he was looking for the Oasis community/development next to the Orchard that Leon runs...

And all the conversation about the "river" me thinks from the bridge to the lighthouse is an "estuary" not a river if we get too technical.. but I was wrong one other time, maybe,,,, Of course it looks like a very still river...
The tide comes in, the tide goes out,,, the water rises,, the water drops...
It's easier to call it a river tho....
Now lets watch the thread go nuts.....

motoged - 6-25-2014 at 12:28 PM

"The Oasis"...."The Orchard"


Both are on the south side of the river/estuary between the highway bridge and "The Serenedad".....

http://www.oasisriobaja.com/


Does that help?


I wonder sometimes why folks don't do some initial Googling before asking some questions

:?: :light:

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by motoged]

Kgryfon - 6-25-2014 at 01:27 PM

Yes, I should have capitalized it and been more clear - I was looking for The Oasis park, not a general reference to what an oasis is.

Motoged, I did a significant amount of Googling before I asked. Nothing that I have found - including the link you posted - shows The Oasis in reference to the larger geographical area. The link you posted shows a map of the park only, but not its position in relation to the rest of the town. Thanks for the general description of the location, which is what I was looking for.

No need for all the snark.

chuckie - 6-25-2014 at 01:55 PM

It's all about snark.....

Mulegena - 6-25-2014 at 01:55 PM

Well, there are maps-- somewhere-- but I can't find 'em!
I'm thinking of the official map of the town that was created by the government. It lists each neighborhood (colonia) by name and Tourist Zone 1-6. Oasis Rio Baja is Tourist Zone 3. Clear as Mulege River mud!

Let me try again...

The Oasis development (Oasis Rio Baja) is on the south riverbank, same as The Serenidad but west of there about one-quarter mile towards town and & one-third mile before coming to the bridge that spans the river and goes to town. Hope this helps.

edited because i can't write fractions and just got lost following my own directions

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Mulegena]

Kgryfon - 6-25-2014 at 01:59 PM

Thanks, Mulegena - that is the kind of thing I was trying to find but had no luck.

Based on your descriptions...is this correct:



[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Kgryfon]

Mulegena - 6-25-2014 at 02:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kgryfon
Thanks, Mulegena - that is the kind of thing I was trying to find but had no luck.

Based on your descriptions...is this correct:



[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Kgryfon]


yes! and YES!! Can you see me waving?
Now, so you can follow the transpeninsular highway to town or at various places on this photo you can access the river and walk or bike to town. This takes about 30 minutes from The Serenidad and 20 or so minutes from The Oasis walking on the dirt river road or 2-3 minutes by car on the highway.

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Mulegena]

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Mulegena]

Kgryfon - 6-25-2014 at 02:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
edited because i can't write fractions and just got lost following my own directions


Ha Ha! I can totally sympathize! ;D

Yes! I think I see you!!! Is that a margarita in your other hand??

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Kgryfon]

Mulegena - 6-25-2014 at 02:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kgryfon
Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
edited because i can't write fractions and just got lost following my own directions


Ha Ha! I can totally sympathize! ;D

Yes! I think I see you!!! Is that a margarita in your other hand??

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by Kgryfon]
No. It's a piece of wood-fired pizza and a scarf, eh Chuckie?
(insider's joke but anybody's welcome)

Kgryfon - 6-25-2014 at 02:14 PM

Thanks everyone! I need to get my bearings visually. When people say "go north about XXX and then south until XXX..." I am like a dear in the headlights. I need more like - "Go to the corner that has the big red brick building (soandso cross street) take a left, then go 4 blocks to the fountain at suchandsuch street and go right." It also helps if I know which side of the river I should be on to start with! :yes:

55steve - 6-25-2014 at 02:20 PM

Maybe a dumb question, but are there freshwater fish in the river?

mtnpop - 6-25-2014 at 03:07 PM

OOOPS>>> I did speak in error in my earlier post...
The estuary has been a river at least 4 times in the last 8 years...
Those times would be John, Julio, Jimena, Paul... All for a short period of time... and rather deep....
As for fish... there are, but "freshwater" would not be in my mind.... its not the Colorado, or the Rio Grande, or anywhere close.... there is a small trickle of water from springs that feed into it under the bridge..
Go ahead guys,,, have at it.....

chuckie - 6-25-2014 at 03:17 PM

Wood fired pizza and a scarf=no snarf...For a while there we were catching some nice pargo in the river, and a few small snook...since the last flood and all the dredging, I havnt heard much good...

bajabuddha - 6-25-2014 at 03:48 PM

Right-o, amigo. No fresh-water species, but estuarial mangrove-types like snook.... in the 'olden-daze' there were 6' snook reported lurking about. However, regardless of the breed, with the history of the town along both banks with septic if not raw sewage, i'd be hesitant to start the BBQ...

....depending on the dinner guest... ;) :lol:

durrelllrobert - 6-25-2014 at 03:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
I always considered the fact that there was a river and palms in the middle of rocky desert enough to think the town was an oasis.

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the English band, see Oasis (band). For other uses, see Oasis (disambiguation).
This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (December 2009)
Oasis in the Libyan part of the Sahara

In geography, an oasis (plural: oases) or cienega (Southwestern United States) is an isolated area of vegetation in a desert, typically surrounding a spring or similar water source. Oases also provide habitat for animals and even humans if the area is big enough. The location of oases has been of critical importance for trade and transportation routes in desert areas; caravans must travel via oases so that supplies of water and food can be replenished. Thus, political or military control of an oasis has in many cases meant control of trade on a particular route. For example, the oases of Awjila, Ghadames, and Kufra, situated in modern-day Libya, have at various times been vital to both North-South and East-West trade in the Sahara.
An oasis in the Negev Desert

Oases are formed from underground rivers or aquifers such as an artesian aquifer, where water can reach the surface naturally by pressure or by man-made wells. Occasional brief thunderstorms provide subterranean water to sustain natural oases, such as the Tuat. Substrata of impermeable rock and stone can trap water and retain it in pockets, or on long faulting subsurface ridges or volcanic dikes water can collect and percolate to the surface. Any incidence of water is then used by migrating birds, which also pass seeds with their droppings which will grow at the water's edge forming an oasis."
Doesn't Kamloops meet this definition (especially the thunderstorms sustain the forest? Of course there are no palm trees but plenty of road closures due to flooding.

motoged - 6-25-2014 at 03:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mulegena
.....No. It's a piece of wood-fired pizza and a scarf, eh Chuckie?
(insider's joke but anybody's welcome)


An insider: Just don't criticize the pizza:biggrin:

chuckie - 6-25-2014 at 03:59 PM

Alas.....It's no mas.....SOB

durrelllrobert - 6-25-2014 at 04:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kgryfon
Thanks everyone! I need to get my bearings visually. When people say "go north about XXX and then south until XXX..." I am like a dear in the headlights. I need more like - "Go to the corner that has the big red brick building (soandso cross street) take a left, then go 4 blocks to the fountain at suchandsuch street and go right." It also helps if I know which side of the river I should be on to start with! :yes:


"I am like a dear in the headlights"
So is my wife and she can only type fractions about 1/2 the time. :lol:

LancairDriver - 6-25-2014 at 06:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
"The Oasis"...."The Orchard"


Both are on the south side of the river/estuary between the highway bridge and "The Serenedad".....

http://www.oasisriobaja.com/


Does that help?


I wonder sometimes why folks don't do some initial Googling before asking some questions

:?: :light:

[Edited on 6-25-2014 by motoged]


We are far too busy here to answer improperly researched questions. :lol:

gnukid - 6-25-2014 at 11:23 PM

Its probably impossible to find the Mulege Oasis due to the constant flooding, best to look for the Oasis flag and dive down there.

dtbushpilot - 6-25-2014 at 11:59 PM

Maps? Where is DK when you need him? Probably flying around in a helicopter somewhere...:bounce::bounce:

Bob and Susan - 6-26-2014 at 04:34 AM

if you are staying at the oasis
you must have reservations...there's no hotels there...people don't just walk up and get a room

ask the company that you rented from for a "location map"

that's what I would do

[Edited on 6-26-2014 by Bob and Susan]

chuckie - 6-26-2014 at 04:42 AM

It aint New York city......pretty small town really..

bajabuddha - 6-26-2014 at 06:46 AM

It just dawned on me, there's a sign right up on the highway that says, "OASIS... sumpthin-er-other''... and if that doesn't work, turn in at the one that says, "LA JUNGLA BAR". That is, unless you're planning on landing by chopper (then ask Dave K)
;)

mulegemichael - 6-26-2014 at 08:42 AM

just a couple weeks ago the locals were catching the hell out of the pargo and mangrove snapper out of the river up by the bridge...they usually fish at night with bait and a handline....my bride and i have done really really well with rapala type hard baits during the early morning hours for the same species plus a few nice snook....the fish are there!

chuckie - 6-26-2014 at 08:47 AM

Good to hear.Michael...You weren't on your pain meds were ya?:cool:

StuckSucks - 6-29-2014 at 02:55 PM

JC43 - 6-30-2014 at 01:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by StuckSucks


That pic is about 10 years old. Now there is an ugly camper standing around and an abandoned boat at the entrance.

mulegemichael - 6-30-2014 at 01:27 PM

no pain meds anymore, chuckie...had radical back surgery end of april and for the first time in almost 30 years, i'm pain free!...i still can't believe it!....not even any advil anymore. yahoo!!!

gallesram - 6-30-2014 at 02:04 PM

Great place to stay at the Oasis: www.clementinesbaja.com. Cliff Taylor owns several homes which are dotted throughout the Oasis and are a great value. I have been staying there for years and really love it. BTW, the picture above does show the entrance to the Oasis from the highway (the sign is a bit newer but you get the idea); but once you go down into the area it looks completely different from the highway entrance.

Kgryfon - 6-30-2014 at 05:32 PM

Thanks - that really is helpful! Now I have both the big and little pictures of the area :)