BajaNomad

Travel across the boarder should be getting easier

bajachris - 6-25-2014 at 06:18 PM

http://www.gsa.gov/portal/category/105703

Found this article about the border crossing heading north increasing to 62 lanes by 2018.

elgatoloco - 6-25-2014 at 09:05 PM

From the Fact Sheet:

"Once all three phases are complete, the new port will boast 62 northbound vehicle primary inspection booths, one dedicated bus lane and inspection booth spread over 34 lanes"
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Booths are 'double stacked in 31 lanes = 62 booths. :saint:

woody with a view - 6-25-2014 at 09:27 PM

theory is just a guess..... let's hope it stays miserable so that the masses won't descend on your point breaks until 2039..... SAVVY?

tjsue - 6-25-2014 at 11:07 PM

It won't matter. The more lanes that are open, the more people will cross, so it'll just stay the same.

dasubergeek - 6-26-2014 at 12:44 AM

That assumes that the 5 will be rerouted to Virginia Street. Don't see funding for that yet.

chuckie - 6-26-2014 at 01:06 AM

Why would anyone want to go North?

bajalearner - 6-26-2014 at 08:56 AM

"Facts" from the linked article show how the government works so hard to make a palatable press release;

"To accommodate that growth and to better meet the changing needs of the tenant agencies and the traveling public" And with most of the new lanes finished but not manned, the car traffic has decreased from many hours to only a few hour idling to reach a new and improved booth. The "tenant agencies"? Yes, those would be the CBP. Yes, period.

"In designing the new San Ysidro LPOE, GSA is committed to build the “Port of the Future”." Yes, port of the future. I guess they will start building that one when the current construction is finished that will easily accommodate the traffic we had in the 1990's.

"With the innovative applications of energy production projects, as well as sustainable energy and water-saving features, the San Ysidro LPOE aspires to receive the LEED® Platinum certification and Net Zero energy status. "Yes, Zero energy status" This is evident when you arrive at a booth and the officer is sitting on a stool and doesn't waste energy by greeting you.

"Energy and Sustainability Goals
Energy Solar photovoltaic system
Solar thermal hot water system
Geothermal heat exchange system

Water Ultra-low flow fixtures
Rainwater retention and reuse system
Onsite waste water treatment system
Xeriscape landscaping (drought tolerant plants)"

Yes, because the CBP patrol strives to keep many people in hot water, even those who carry 6 crumpled aluminum cans in his car. And the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on the "Xeriscape" because the port is so lush, and tropical when you water down some concrete. The "ultra low-flow fixtures work great because they are not accessible to the public who just spent 1 to 8 hours in their car to get to the port.

Mexitron - 6-26-2014 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by bajalearner
"Facts" from the linked article show how the government works so hard to make a palatable press release;

"To accommodate that growth and to better meet the changing needs of the tenant agencies and the traveling public" And with most of the new lanes finished but not manned, the car traffic has decreased from many hours to only a few hour idling to reach a new and improved booth. The "tenant agencies"? Yes, those would be the CBP. Yes, period.

"In designing the new San Ysidro LPOE, GSA is committed to build the “Port of the Future”." Yes, port of the future. I guess they will start building that one when the current construction is finished that will easily accommodate the traffic we had in the 1990's.

"With the innovative applications of energy production projects, as well as sustainable energy and water-saving features, the San Ysidro LPOE aspires to receive the LEED® Platinum certification and Net Zero energy status. "Yes, Zero energy status" This is evident when you arrive at a booth and the officer is sitting on a stool and doesn't waste energy by greeting you.

"Energy and Sustainability Goals
Energy Solar photovoltaic system
Solar thermal hot water system
Geothermal heat exchange system

Water Ultra-low flow fixtures
Rainwater retention and reuse system
Onsite waste water treatment system
Xeriscape landscaping (drought tolerant plants)"

Yes, because the CBP patrol strives to keep many people in hot water, even those who carry 6 crumpled aluminum cans in his car. And the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on the "Xeriscape" because the port is so lush, and tropical when you water down some concrete. The "ultra low-flow fixtures work great because they are not accessible to the public who just spent 1 to 8 hours in their car to get to the port.

I hope they spend as much effort on manning all the booths that they do installing low-flow fixtures. Won't matter how many booths they have if they aren't all open, which seems to often be the case.

mtgoat666 - 6-26-2014 at 12:06 PM

the capital improvement budget is different from the operations (labor) budget.
just because they built inspection booths does not mean they have budget to staff booths with inspectors. come on, we are talking about govt here! you expect too much from them!

DENNIS - 6-26-2014 at 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by chuckie
Why would anyone want to go North?


To do the work Americans don't want to do. :lol:

chuckie - 6-26-2014 at 12:23 PM

Oh yeah, that....

Bajahowodd - 6-26-2014 at 05:04 PM

This is, and always has been a corporate welfare program stemming from the 9/11 thing.

Since they clamped down on the border, can anyone cite any sort of major find? Obviously, Osama Bin Laden was not found in a tourists trunk. Illegal crossings happen elsewhere. And if anyone thinks it is wise to build a huge fortified fence along the entire border, they are only contributing to the disgrace we will face in the international community.

Expanding the crossing is a make work project. Work for the contractors and work for new hires.

Finally, it seems to happen on this forum way too often. A boarder is someone who pays you for a room. A border is a demarcation between nations. Geez.

DENNIS - 6-26-2014 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

Since they clamped down on the border, can anyone cite any sort of major find?


It's all smoke'n mirrors to show the world, including US citizens, that we take our border seriously when twenty miles east, you could drive a column of tanks across and no one would know...or care.

SFandH - 6-26-2014 at 05:12 PM

I wonder if the contractors are hiring illegal Mexicans to do the heavy lifting.

:bounce:

Bajahowodd - 6-27-2014 at 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd

Since they clamped down on the border, can anyone cite any sort of major find?


It's all smoke'n mirrors to show the world, including US citizens, that we take our border seriously when twenty miles east, you could drive a column of tanks across and no one would know...or care.


The sad fact, and I really mean sad fact, is that our border with Mexico is between two friendly nations. Outside of a few historic war zones, such as in Korea. and some of the current Middle East borders, our border fortification stands alone. It's an atrocity.

It's especially galling since many major corporations profit from the labor of the illegals, yet they are not willing to support immigration reform. They are OK with poor folks risking their lives to come here, so they can profit from them. A shame.

Proposed fortified US/ Canadian LPOE of the future

durrelllrobert - 6-27-2014 at 05:25 PM

..same as for the last 200 years.

Bajahowodd - 6-28-2014 at 04:52 PM

Exactly! But they speak English!

There are a ton of illegals from Canada, just because they look like Americans and speak English.

SFandH - 6-28-2014 at 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Exactly! But they speak English!

There are a ton of illegals from Canada, just because they look like Americans and speak English.


I have a good old friend that's Canadian. During the 70s he was on vacation in Florida from his Toronto, Ontario home, walked into a social security office and somehow got a number. He moved to San Diego the next year and has been here ever since.

durrelllrobert - 6-28-2014 at 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by SFandH
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Exactly! But they speak English!

There are a ton of illegals from Canada, just because they look like Americans and speak English.


I have a good old friend that's Canadian. During the 70s he was on vacation in Florida from his Toronto, Ontario home, walked into a social security office and somehow got a number. He moved to San Diego the next year and has been here ever since.
But nowadays it's even much harder for a Canadian to get a US Resident card than it is for a Mexican because of different quotas for every foreign country. For my Canadian wife it took over 2 years and 2 trips to Juarez for interviews

BajaGringo - 6-28-2014 at 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
But nowadays it's even much harder for a Canadian to get a US Resident card than it is for a Mexican because of different quotas for every foreign country. For my Canadian wife it took over 2 years and 2 trips to Juarez for interviews


Think that's tough? I know a lot of Mexicans who have been in the system over ten years and still waiting to get their residency. We tell them to get in line and get into the country legally like the rest but the reality is the system is a complete mess. Whatever your idea on immigration, the system needs a major and complete reform...

Udo - 6-29-2014 at 04:26 PM

I like your new avatar, Ron!

Bajahowodd - 6-29-2014 at 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Quote:
Originally posted by durrelllrobert
But nowadays it's even much harder for a Canadian to get a US Resident card than it is for a Mexican because of different quotas for every foreign country. For my Canadian wife it took over 2 years and 2 trips to Juarez for interviews


Think that's tough? I know a lot of Mexicans who have been in the system over ten years and still waiting to get their residency. We tell them to get in line and get into the country legally like the rest but the reality is the system is a complete mess. Whatever your idea on immigration, the system needs a major and complete reform...


Tell that to the doofuses that claim to be the Republican party.

And yeah, your avatar is interesting, but, it's obviously not a picture of you.

BajaGringo - 6-29-2014 at 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Udo
I like your new avatar, Ron!


Gracias amigo
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
And yeah, your avatar is interesting, but, it's obviously not a picture of you.


How do you know? It's been what, almost five years now since we met for dinner? Time has not been kind, on top of the numerous surgeries amigo...

;D

elgatoloco - 6-29-2014 at 08:10 PM

Crossed north San Ysidro today at 6:42PM. Border crossing app showed user reports of 1 hour 40 minutes in regular lanes.

We waited 6 minutes then another 5 while the guy in front of us got sent to secondary because he did not have the proper docs.

YWMV

Looked like they are still on schedule to have it all work done by 2018. :saint:

Bajahowodd - 6-30-2014 at 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
I like your new avatar, Ron!


Gracias amigo
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd
And yeah, your avatar is interesting, but, it's obviously not a picture of you.


How do you know? It's been what, almost five years now since we met for dinner? Time has not been kind, on top of the numerous surgeries amigo...

;D


Just a wild guess!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Cliffy - 6-30-2014 at 06:15 PM

When its done it will be like Walmart, 25 checkout counters but only 5 open!
Has anyone ever seen all the checkouts at any Wally World open at once?
What makes anyone think it will be any different at the crossing?

MMc - 6-30-2014 at 06:41 PM

I hate that people are used as a pawns in a chess game. Both sides are are looking for votes next election. It's about power not about what right.

It's been almost 13 years and neither side has done anything but posture and let the unions and the contractors make a bunch of cash. There is now a border security industrial complex that will do all it can to keep the good USA spending.

micah202 - 7-1-2014 at 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Cliffy
When its done it will be like Walmart, 25 checkout counters but only 5 open!
Has anyone ever seen all the checkouts at any Wally World open at once?
What makes anyone think it will be any different at the crossing?


..open all lanes == system crashes


.......Murphy's Law and borders:no:

bajalearner - 7-1-2014 at 11:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cliffy
When its done it will be like Walmart, 25 checkout counters but only 5 open!
Has anyone ever seen all the checkouts at any Wally World open at once?
What makes anyone think it will be any different at the crossing?


The difference is; in short time, Wally world will have a bunch of self checkout stations with no paid people needed. Good for check out but bad for people needing jobs. The port will never be able to have self check-in stations. Will always have a government employee there (if only to make jobs).