Just looking at the coastline this year as compared to thirty years ago is nauseating. Under Mexican law, anyone can deny public access to the coast
by buying the land fronting the beach. The situation at Salsepuedes is a great example.
The Maldives have tried this model for decades now and have been somewhat surprised by the public's reaction to their plea for assistance in stopping
sea level rise. Some of the surf community have told them to learn to breathe under water and have fun doing it. I notice that they are beginning to
talk out of a different side of their mouth just recently.chuckie - 8-27-2014 at 05:35 PM
????????micah202 - 8-27-2014 at 06:02 PM
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...yes
.mtgoat666 - 8-27-2014 at 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by huesos
Just looking at the coastline this year as compared to thirty years ago is nauseating. Under Mexican law, anyone can deny public access to the coast
by buying the land fronting the beach. The situation at Salsepuedes is a great example.
The Maldives have tried this model for decades now and have been somewhat surprised by the public's reaction to their plea for assistance in stopping
sea level rise. Some of the surf community have told them to learn to breathe under water and have fun doing it. I notice that they are beginning to
talk out of a different side of their mouth just recently.
Yes, ALL of the Baja coast is closed, you should stay home. Situation very bad. Barb wire everywhere.
Last I heard the Maldives were all gone, and all the inhabitants moved to Riverside and Temecula. Are there still a couple islands left?mojo_norte - 8-27-2014 at 06:44 PM
I know some spots ..micah202 - 8-27-2014 at 06:58 PM
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...musta tried surfing south of san felippe
.............access would be the -least- of your problems ?? gnukid - 8-27-2014 at 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by huesos
Just looking at the coastline this year as compared to thirty years ago is nauseating. Under Mexican law, anyone can deny public access to the coast
by buying the land fronting the beach. The situation at Salsepuedes is a great example.
The Maldives have tried this model for decades now and have been somewhat surprised by the public's reaction to their plea for assistance in stopping
sea level rise. Some of the surf community have told them to learn to breathe under water and have fun doing it. I notice that they are beginning to
talk out of a different side of their mouth just recently.
Interestingly the sea level in the Maldives has actually fallen. Criminal charges have been brought against the politicians seeking financial and
political gain through false sea level representation.
I understand what the guy is saying. There are quite a few spots you can't get to anymore. A few that I really enjoyed surfing too.
For example the beach break just north of Campo Lopez has been breaking better than usual lately and I haven't had luck getting in there with those
new condos.willardguy - 8-28-2014 at 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by BooJumMan
I understand what the guy is saying. There are quite a few spots you can't get to anymore. A few that I really enjoyed surfing too.
For example the beach break just north of Campo Lopez has been breaking better than usual lately and I haven't had luck getting in there with those
new condos.
(FYI, across the road from the Mazatlan bar there's a gap in the fence you can walk thru then paddle in from around the arch.)
but yeah, lookin more and more like the ranch these days! woody with a view - 8-28-2014 at 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by BooJumMan
I understand what the guy is saying. There are quite a few spots you can't get to anymore. A few that I really enjoyed surfing too.
For example the beach break just north of Campo Lopez has been breaking better than usual lately and I haven't had luck getting in there with those
new condos.
K55 used to be a real spot, like K38's. always campers there back when. seems like the sand got gouged into deeper water and never came back.woody with a view - 8-28-2014 at 09:57 AM
we used to drive down onto the beach on the outside of Calafia where the condos come up from the water now. there was a b-tchen cove there with just
enough room to turn around or just back down and drive out. those were the daze.....MMc - 8-28-2014 at 12:15 PM
Now, you have to "know" how to get to many spots. The days of driving up and going out are gone. I do miss the easier access of days gone by. We use
kayaks, and now we walk into spots too.Tomas Tierra - 8-28-2014 at 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by woody with a view
we used to drive down onto the beach on the outside of Calafia where the condos come up from the water now. there was a b-tchen cove there with just
enough room to turn around or just back down and drive out. those were the daze.....
Mushroom reef?bajabuddha - 8-29-2014 at 02:51 AM
Far's beaches and shorelines changing, there's a wonderful saying in the geological circles; "Earth Happens". Did rivers for 30+ years, and the
shores, channels and rapids are constantly moving/changing. The San Juan River is the International Border between the U.S. and the Navajo Nation on
the northern boundary, and is constantly shifting back and forth in several sections for several hundreds of yards at a time. Finally came to a head
in Federal courts, and white ranchers were outraged when they lost some acreage they claimed "we farmed for 5 generations!". Well, the Navajo had
them for a few more than that, and won. Same goes with ocean shorelines... EARTH HAPPENS. Sedimentary/riparian areas make bad boundary lines, always
subject to dispute and change.
Fun to watch though... woody with a view - 8-29-2014 at 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Tomas Tierra
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Originally posted by woody with a view
we used to drive down onto the beach on the outside of Calafia where the condos come up from the water now. there was a b-tchen cove there with just
enough room to turn around or just back down and drive out. those were the daze.....
Mushroom reef?
yep!DENNIS - 8-29-2014 at 07:31 AM
The laws always favor the rich, or so it seems. In this case, the beaches, The Federal Zone, which only goes to 20 mts. above the "mean high tide"
line, belongs to the people, but you can't violate private property to get to it.
Although I agree with this decision, I feel it a shortcoming of government not to rectify the problem which they have designed.woody with a view - 8-29-2014 at 07:36 AM
have you seen the tower coming out of the water at Calafia? it isn't 60 feet above the waterline..........pappy - 8-29-2014 at 02:07 PM
been a looooong time since i surfed the north for this reason. unless you have private access it's pretty much over. like woody said, use to roll
down to 38,55,etc set camp and surf for weekend getaways.woody with a view - 8-29-2014 at 08:19 PM
i know you guys have seen "Mushrooms" before. look up Hurricane Olivia back in mid/late 80's......
Bob and Susan - 8-30-2014 at 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by DENNIS
...In this case, the beaches, The Federal Zone, which only goes to 20 mts. above the "mean high tide" line, belongs to the people, but you can't
violate private property to get to it...
you don't have to allow cars thru your property to access the beach...
but walking is always permitted from the road...
there are always designated walk ways even when they are hard to see...
the days of driving your car on the beach will disappear in the future
