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Shootout in Los Barriles?

55steve - 9-3-2014 at 07:43 AM

I was reading on another site there was a shootout and 3 people were killed. Anyone have any info on this?

shari - 9-3-2014 at 07:54 AM

It is all over the news, here are some links to Colectivo Pericu. Sept. 1st 10:30 at night in the Colonia Laguna there were gunshots, a woman screaming, 3 dead...one of them a woman. Nasty stuff...nobody in custody. I was surprised nobody from Los Barilles reported it here.

http://colectivopericu.net/2014/09/02/momentos-de-terror-ano...

http://colectivopericu.net/2014/09/02/balaceras-dejan-3-muer...

cliffh - 9-3-2014 at 08:28 AM

Sad but true, husband and wife killed at bar by bus stop and one at bridge north of town. drug related.

BajaBlanca - 9-3-2014 at 09:49 AM

Shari - I am pretty sure most Los Barrillans are out of town due to the summer heat.

slimshady - 9-3-2014 at 12:46 PM

The local drug dealer must have peeed someone off. Risks of the job are pretty high.

bledito - 9-3-2014 at 03:15 PM

drug dealers in los barilles???? Didn't know that sort of buisness existed in that town. Is it a cartel thing or just a dispute between clients and suppliers? Has this happened before??? just wondering how safe it is there.

shari - 9-3-2014 at 03:41 PM

I have been very surprised and dismayed at the number of shoot outs in La Paz this past few months...mostly drug related executions but wow...one every few days according to Colectivo Pericu news.

windgrrl - 9-3-2014 at 04:12 PM

1. Drug use? Yes. The usual with a rise in population. Theft seems to be on the rise.
2. Drug disputes? Yes. Some serious, but relatively infrequent.
3. Cartel presence? Yes, a mid-level cartel leader resident was captured by the military during a quiet lunch and sent to jail a few years back.
4. Drug dealers? Yes...usually from out of town and quite present on the beach some evenings.

Safe? Yes, generally, but avoid the above to decrease risk. It's a good place with a lot of great things going on.

I'm only there in the winter.

jcom - 9-3-2014 at 04:20 PM

Wow, that sucks. Was just there.

mtgoat666 - 9-3-2014 at 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by bledito
drug dealers in los barilles???? Didn't know that sort of buisness existed in that town.


unfortunately, it exists in every town and fish camp. drugs seems to have permeated all the rural areas.

David K - 9-3-2014 at 04:48 PM

Meth ("crystal") is in many small Baja towns and villages, as well as big towns like LOS BARRILES. There are rehab clinics all over Baja. Sad.

bledito - 9-3-2014 at 05:37 PM

Should you then avoid the beaches in the evenings, that would be unfourtunate, if so which ones? Cannot the local police and maybe the new branch of police do more to keep em out?

windgrrl - 9-3-2014 at 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by bledito
Should you then avoid the beaches in the evenings, that would be unfourtunate, if so which ones? Cannot the local police and maybe the new branch of police do more to keep em out?


No...no need to worry, or avoid beaches. Really. Drugs are ubiquitous across the continent. Ground zero for the drug industry is 150 miles to the east. The local situation is similar to Resort Town, Anywhere, North America. People bring their appetites with them and mostly mind their own business. I think the concern lately has been for home break-ins and theft which goes hand-in-hand with drug problems.

The local police are prevention oriented, the Federales take care of some things and the military shows up for others. The law can't go it alone. One of the really good things are all the organizations in Los Barriles who are helping to build strong communities. Changing a drug problem starts with people caring about the community and the people who live there.

bledito - 9-3-2014 at 06:25 PM

What are these organizations? What are they doing to help? Is there drug education? Are they patrolling and identifying dealers. Do they offer rehab for the addicts? Meth is a nasty drug to get hooked on. Hope they do something useful.

bledito - 9-4-2014 at 02:54 PM

are there any further reports on this, or in eglish?

Cardon Man - 9-5-2014 at 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Shari - I am pretty sure most Los Barrillans are out of town due to the summer heat.


Actually, Los Barrillians live there year round. It's the hordes of gringos that bail out in the summer.

It's sad how any event like this can cause potential tourists to avoid what is in reality a very safe area. The fact is, your chances of being the victim of violent crime in Los Barriles are extremely low.

If only people were as concerned about the ever declining sport fishery in BCS.

Janzie - 9-5-2014 at 11:15 AM

And, if only people were as concerned with the state of violence and drug abuse in the rest of North America which creates a market for the cartels in Mexico.

jcom - 9-5-2014 at 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Cardon Man
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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
Shari - I am pretty sure most Los Barrillans are out of town due to the summer heat.


If only people were as concerned about the ever declining sport fishery in BCS.


You can basically replace "BCS" with any sport fishing location in the world. Nowhere are things getting better. There are little improvements here and there, but we just need to enjoy what little is left and try to promote and practice sustainable fishing. Ted Danson's book "Oceana" predicts a nearly lifeless ocean by 2090 - 2100. If the acidity of the ocean keeps increasing, which it clearly will via CO2, and the Ph levels fall to the low to mid 7s (8.4 is normal and many areas are seeing high 7s currently), then it's game over. Sorry to go off topic. I hope it's a long time before we hear of anything like this again on the East Cape (re: shootings).

Also, agreed about USA's appetite for drugs. Decriminalize them and all the cartel hell and other violent crime goes away. Just look at Portugal.

805gregg - 9-5-2014 at 06:29 PM

You have to be aware of your surroundings, the shooters are very bad shots, and collateral damage is likely

jcom - 9-6-2014 at 12:50 PM

Can anyone share the process they've had to go through to obtain a permit to have a handgun in your home? I've read it's possible as long as the weapon is kept in the home and is solely intended for protection. What's the deal with having guns for hunting (e.g. rifles for deer, etc and shotguns for birds?) Mexican gun laws confuse me.

shari - 9-6-2014 at 12:53 PM

you can get your guns legal by joining a rod & gun club...lots of paperwork to submit and visits to the military base but worth it if you want to legalize your weapons

bledito - 9-6-2014 at 06:02 PM

why is it you need a gun in baja? if it is that dangereous why live there.

bajaguy - 9-6-2014 at 06:08 PM

Yeah. Move to someplace safe with gun control like Chicago, Washington DC or New York.....
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Originally posted by bledito
why is it you need a gun in baja? if it is that dangereous why live there.

bledito - 9-7-2014 at 06:37 AM

as you state if people want guns they won't follow the law. same anywhere I guess. areas of chicago and the other cities you mention are safe as anywhere else if you know the areas.

woody with a view - 9-7-2014 at 06:47 AM

SDPD's ghetto bird helicopter was roaming over my hood last weekend around 4am..... so there is that!

jcom - 9-8-2014 at 09:05 AM

As per the questions above. I've always owned guns for protection and hunting...no matter where I've lived. Agreed that chances are slight for a home invasion in the places I've lived, including Utah, California (north and south), Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Russia, etc. But that one single time that it happens, I want to be at the ready to protect my family. In Utah, if someone breaks into your home, shooting them and, perhaps, killing them is 100% justified. It's more complicated in California, but the law, especially in Northern California, sees it as justified if it's for self protection. I sleep better at night, no matter where I am on this planet, with a gun nearby. I'd rather be prepared to scare off a perpetrator or, if they take things to the next level, take them out if they're a threat. One ounce of prevention......

[Edited on 9-8-2014 by jcom]

monoloco - 9-8-2014 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by jcom
In Utah, if someone breaks into your home, shooting them and, perhaps, killing them is 10% justified.
How does that work?:lol:

BajaUtah - 9-8-2014 at 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
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Originally posted by jcom
In Utah, if someone breaks into your home, shooting them and, perhaps, killing them is 10% justified.
How does that work?:lol:


I think he has that confused with tithing to the Mormon Church

mojo_norte - 9-8-2014 at 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by jcom
As per the questions above. I've always owned guns for protection and hunting...no matter where I've lived. Agreed that chances are slight for a home invasion in the places I've lived, including Utah, California (north and south), Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Russia, etc. But that one single time that it happens, I want to be at the ready to protect my family. In Utah, if someone breaks into your home, shooting them and, perhaps, killing them is 10% justified. It's more complicated in California, but the law, especially in Northern California, sees it as justified if it's for self protection. I sleep better at night, no matter where I am on this planet, with a gun nearby. I'd rather be prepared to scare off a perpetrator or, if they take things to the next level, take them out if they're a threat. One ounce of prevention......


I doubt if Mexico has a 'make my day law ' and I suspect if you were to shoot someone regardless of the circumstances and legality of the gun you would be going to jail.

bajaguy - 9-8-2014 at 10:08 AM

Even better if the recently deceased burglar/assailant is found in a dumpster with a note that says "no provocan el padrino"

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Originally posted by soulpatch
My understanding of that here on the mainland is if you shoot someone on your property it needs to be no bigger than a .38.
You will go to jail but your attorney should be able to get you out on an amparo..... it's best if the dead person is in your house but a courtyard should suffice.
I have had the opportunity to meet a lot of people who live in the country here and they are pretty well schooled regarding this.

mtgoat666 - 9-8-2014 at 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Yeah. Move to someplace safe with gun control like Chicago, Washington DC or New York.....

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Originally posted by bledito
why is it you need a gun in baja? if it is that dangereous why live there.


those places are safer than carson city! unless you are a black man, then the popo may kill you. but i wonder what's safer for a black man, carson city, rural baja or NYC?

wessongroup - 9-8-2014 at 12:12 PM

TN

jcom - 9-8-2014 at 01:16 PM

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I think he has that confused with tithing to the Mormon Church


Ha ha, good one! They don't get chit from this kid :tumble: