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Opinions new 60 hp Suzuki outboard

brewer - 10-30-2014 at 12:19 PM

4 stroke. Anyone likes, dislikes?

Pacifico - 10-30-2014 at 12:48 PM

I've only owned 1 Suzuki outboard, but it was a 2 stroke. Never had any issues with it. I've owned several Yamaha 4 strokes, same thing - no issues. You'll love the gas savings with the 4 stroke....

woody with a view - 10-30-2014 at 01:26 PM

my mariner 25hp would be jealous!

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 01:32 PM

I used to have a 65 hp Suzuki 2 stroke. Ran great. I've never owned a 4 stroke and probably never will. Too heavy and harder to work on.

Pompano - 10-30-2014 at 02:01 PM

You can get a good idea about certain brands and power choices by visiting an outboard repair shop...and seeing what's in for repairs.

An outboard mechanic in San Diego once told me that he almost never gets a Susie to work on.

Besides being easy on the environment with it's EFI system, the 4-stroke Suzuki has good fuel economy, and at operating speeds it uses about 1/5 th less than the 2-stroke models. Very quiet running. It does weigh a bit, though...at about 800 lbs for a 60 hp.

A good choice if you need a new 4-stroke.

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pompano
It does weigh a bit, though...at about 800 lbs for a 60 hp.


800 lbs.? I don't think that is accurate. Little over 200lbs. would be my guess.

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 02:15 PM

But still, that's a lot for a 60 hp.

desertcpl - 10-30-2014 at 02:33 PM

my that's really heavy

Pompano - 10-30-2014 at 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bob53
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
It does weigh a bit, though...at about 800 lbs for a 60 hp.


800 lbs.? I don't think that is accurate. Little over 200lbs. would be my guess.


I thought that was a tad heavy, too....so I rechecked another source and this one says 107 kg....quite a diffence! That's the internet for you.

Here's another one....good grief.





Suzuki DF 60 (Outboard) Specifications


Horsepower
60-hp

Type of Engine
4-Stroke

Number of Cylinders
4 Cylinders

Configuration
In-line

Weight (lbs/kg)
792.00 lbs / 359.25 kg


Fuel Delivery
Fuel Injected

Displacement (cu/cc)
79.20 cu / 1,297.86 cc

Shaft Length Options
20 in

Steering Control
Power Assist

CARB Rating
3-Star

Alternator Output
25 A






[Edited on 10-30-2014 by Pompano]

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 02:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob53
Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
It does weigh a bit, though...at about 800 lbs for a 60 hp.


800 lbs.? I don't think that is accurate. Little over 200lbs. would be my guess.


I thought that was a tad heavy, too....so I rechecked another source and this one says 107 kg....quite a diffence! That's the internet for you.

Here's another one....good grief.





Suzuki DF 60 (Outboard) Specifications


Horsepower
60-hp

Type of Engine
4-Stroke

Number of Cylinders
4 Cylinders

Configuration
In-line

Weight (lbs/kg)
792.00 lbs / 359.25 kg


Fuel Delivery
Fuel Injected

Displacement (cu/cc)
79.20 cu / 1,297.86 cc

Shaft Length Options
20 in

Steering Control
Power Assist

CARB Rating
3-Star

Alternator Output
25 A

[Edited on 10-30-2014 by Pompano]

Geez! lol

brewer - 10-30-2014 at 02:52 PM

The one I'm looking at is 3 cylinder and weighs 229 lbs.

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 02:54 PM

That's about what I was thinking. My 65 was a 3 cylinder.

Pescador - 10-30-2014 at 03:39 PM

Just personal experience and prejudice, but I would never accept the gift of a Suzuki, instead I would seriously consider the Yamaha. There is a big difference in the reselling of the two motors. Yamaha commands a much higher price in the used market.

Bob53 - 10-30-2014 at 04:22 PM

That's all I run now. Yamaha 175 and a Yamaha 15. Both are 2 strokes.

Bob and Susan - 10-30-2014 at 04:36 PM

parts!!!

there is one store in san diego that can get parts
and they have very little in stock

mine runs great...thank goodness

UnoMas - 10-30-2014 at 05:40 PM

Bob that is what came to mind to me too. My neighbor had a suzy although a 2 stroke but had problems getting parts in Baja Sur. Sometimes you order a part and wait for it and it doesn't fix the problem so back to square one waiting for another...Something to look at for sure!

Pompano - 10-30-2014 at 05:53 PM

brewer, it's your choice, and you have as many choices as there are opinions. Evinrud Etec, Mercury, Johnson, Suzuki, Yamaha, etc, etc. I've lost track of all the motors I've owned and used over the years. Cherished every one...including my first, a now vintage 7hp Corsair.

But whatever you buy...just remember that 3 things make or break any engine, 2 or 4 stroke.

Maintenance, Maintenance, Maintenance.



As a boy I earned a 20 hp Johnson outboard from my grandfather. Ran like a top...because I maintained it as it had always been maintained. I used it in fair weather and foul for 10 more years before it was 'liberated' one night for use in the Cree sovereign nation. I guess the value of such an engine was well known. ;D

This one hangs in my garage these days. It had seen good use on some remote fishing lakes in Canada. With a nice bucket of walleyes. The devil made me do it..



Aha...even found an pld photo of that one. Complete with my childhood amigo, Randy, and my uncles. Nothing like old engines and old friends.



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Hook - 10-30-2014 at 06:04 PM

We have a Suzuki dealer in our town. Many pangueros with Suzuki four strokes.

Parts dont seem to be a problem over here. Although, I cant say I've heard of many problems with Suzukis.

There is no Suzuki dealer in Cabo?

Surely you guys have tried ordering on line and having it shipped through Estafeta or even Fed Ex or DHL?

Why wait for a local Mexican dealer, anyway? Buy it on line, ship it yourself. Shipping is getting better and better in Mexico. Well, at least the mainland.

One store in the entire US that can get parts, Bob? Or, just one that is convenient for your drive-by trips?

http://www.suzukimarineparts.net/

http://www.brownspoint.com/store/pc/home.asp

http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Suzuki/Outboard/2011%20and...

DaliDali - 10-30-2014 at 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Hook
Why wait for a local Mexican dealer, anyway? Buy it on line, ship it yourself. Shipping is getting better and better in Mexico. Well, at least the mainland.



In Loreto at least, there are zero pangueros using a Zuke.
It's all Yamaha, Honda and Mercs.....although the Mercs are going out of fashion it seems.
Shipping is a challenge over here also. It's improving but who knows the wait times?

The whole key is to get the frequent maintenance/replacement parts while one is dawdling around in the US.
Items like a thermostat, gaskets, alternator belt, water pump impeller kits, lower unit water seals, prop shaft seals, motor specific spark plugs and those little lower unit plugs for the lube.

Then instead of fumbling around waiting for an order, one can be back on the water catching dinner much sooner.

And then if a part is used, get another spare while in the US.

I use this place http://www.simyamaha.com/ for all my Yamaha parts. Excellent service.

brewer - 10-30-2014 at 09:36 PM

I think Suzuki is making a great motor. I've seen them now on pangas in Abreojos and Bahia Asuncion. I've looked into it and think I'm going Suzuki.

Does anyone have info on finding them online? Basically, the best deal out there.

Thanks

DaliDali - 10-31-2014 at 11:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by brewer
I think Suzuki is making a great motor. I've seen them now on pangas in Abreojos and Bahia Asuncion. I've looked into it and think I'm going Suzuki.

Does anyone have info on finding them online? Basically, the best deal out there.

Thanks


http://boatplacenaples.com/suzuki_outboards_60.html

Some places will not ship to you direct, but will ship to a dealer who does the install.

Boats.net only handles the smaller portable models on Suzuki.

I bought a Yamaha from this place before. No sales tax as I was taking the motor directly to MX
They can get you one easily enough. (Suzuki)

JP Marine/JP Motor Sports
630 Bay Blvd. #106
Chula Vista, CA 91910-5262
619-564-4935

[Edited on 10-31-2014 by DaliDali]

[Edited on 10-31-2014 by DaliDali]

Stiktime - 10-31-2014 at 12:51 PM

I had a 75 2 stroke that was a decent motor but would never buy another. Finding parts and a Suzk mechanic in L.A. area was a nightmare. Went to Honda 4 strokes and never looked back. There may be some as good but never found one any better !

Zuks

captkw - 10-31-2014 at 01:27 PM

They seem to be fine motors Imo... just not a lot of them around...my self have only serviced a handful..just a few days ago was starting to scope a 2002 yammy F225 for the known exhaust corrosion problem when the custermer stated he almost bought another boat with a new Zuk on her but was told only a authorized dealer was allowed to service and maintain the warrety ?? first I had heard of that!! last week found the reverse gear thrust washer and bearing from the factory missing in a 90hp Honda..go figure !!:cool: if this motor is only for Baja ,,I would really look into service,repair & parts !! K&T

willardguy - 10-31-2014 at 02:00 PM

I read this on the internet so it must be true! suzuki outboards.


Suzuki is the largest manufacture of outboards worldwide
First outboard to introduce hp ratings at prop and not at the flywheel.
First outboard to introduce oil injection.
First outboard to introduce gravity oil feeds after carb. That mean no oil pumps to brake.
First and only outboard to have a completly stainless steel water pump houseing. Others use alum. or plastic.
First and only outboard to have dual spark plugs for better fuel burn.
First outboard to introduce advanced Microlink™ ignition system to max. fuel to air ratio.(That means better fuel burn)
First outboard to introduce a engine monitor system w/ gauge.
First outboard to introduce EFI.
First outboard to introduce EFI on 4 strokes.
First outboard to introduce 140 4 stroke engine that weighs just 410 pounds fully rigged. That’s not only considerably less than competitive 2 stroke 140s and 150s, it’s less than Merc's 135 HP outboards!
First and only outboard to offer a 3yr warranty on all there engines and you could buy extended 3yrs that means 6 yrs of coverage. Also extended warranty is the cheapest to buy from the 5 major brands.(Yammie,Merc,Honda,bom(a.k.a Omc) and Suzuki).
In 2000 & 2001 Evinrude bought the 40hp,50hp,70hp 4 strokes from suzuki and painted it blue & stuck a evinrude sticker on them

Whao there hoss !!

captkw - 10-31-2014 at 05:16 PM

I don't know about all of that !! some,, I know to true,,BUT.....the part about all SS waterpump housing is a False !! I see a lot of all SS w/p..hell my badass's 2005 mercury (2) 2 stroke 75's have All SS w/p's....the yammys have a plastic housing with ss "cup" and wear plate and IMO a poor design !! about half the ones I see the housing has a slight melt on the top were the shaft exits...and flushing 200 hp and up is a b-tch!! carry on !!:cool: