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Illegal Fishing and Dumping

luv2fish - 11-19-2014 at 03:17 PM

I was reading this article on commercial fishing boats disregarding all laws and pretty much raping the ocean. On one hand its sad but it"s also good that the fishermen are starting to grasp the concept of limits and conservation.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/graban-pescadores-de-puerto-san-ca...

mtgoat666 - 11-19-2014 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by luv2fish
I was reading this article on commercial fishing boats disregarding all laws and pretty much raping the ocean. On one hand its sad but it"s also good that the fishermen are starting to grasp the concept of limits and conservation.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/graban-pescadores-de-puerto-san-ca...


tragedy of the commons, same old story, again and again and again and again...

when individuals chase limited natural resources, you need strong government control. more government presence and control is the solution

luv2fish - 11-19-2014 at 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
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Originally posted by luv2fish
I was reading this article on commercial fishing boats disregarding all laws and pretty much raping the ocean. On one hand its sad but it"s also good that the fishermen are starting to grasp the concept of limits and conservation.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/graban-pescadores-de-puerto-san-ca...


tragedy of the commons, same old story, again and again and again and again...

when individuals chase limited natural resources, you need strong government control. more government presence and control is the solution

I agree with you goat. { By the way I enjoy reading your posts. } However I think that it has to start with the citizenry. This video kind of reminds me of the Discovery channel's Whale Wars. Obviously nothing alike but they are both trying to conserve the resources of the ocean.

MitchMan - 11-27-2014 at 02:16 PM

Legislation by government certainly, and actual public/popular support will increase compliance to the law. When you have a law that does not have adequate popular support, both compliance and enforcement goes way down and even having the law nullified or removed becomes a possibility.

Government certainly has a role and a duty to do what is in the "true" interest of the community.

alacran - 11-27-2014 at 02:40 PM

I like your botom line, and only suggest that it would be better if it said:
Una cerveza mas por favor, y un taco de pescado"

luv2fish - 11-27-2014 at 02:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by alacran  
I like your botom line, and only suggest that it would be better if it said:
Una cerveza mas por favor, y un taco de pescado"


I know, I inherited this nomad name from a friend and I just kept. I do speak Espaņol muy bien, Gracias.

MitchMan - 11-27-2014 at 06:21 PM

seguro que si, y porque no? That's what I always say sometimes.

freediverbrian - 11-27-2014 at 09:04 PM

I don't speak good Spanish but I do know he wanted 5 tacos not uno

luv2fish - 11-27-2014 at 09:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian  
I don't speak good Spanish but I do know he wanted 5 tacos not uno


Of the Shark kind...:yes::yes::yes: Withsome of that white cream they put on them. Sweet Georgia Brown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ChicaSierra - 12-26-2014 at 09:02 AM

Sometime in October, they (Mex. govn't) came through the Gonzaga area and told the locals there would be no more gillnetting. It was nice that these guys obeyed the request for a few weeks, but unfortunately were back at it again by mid-November. It is hard enough to watch the shrimper boats raping the floor of the SOC every darn day, but those nasty gillnets just really pee me off! Very, very unsustainable to say the least... Are these commercial fleets we see, mostly unregulated pangas (from SF ??) ......no doubt, selling the catch internationally. (Not to mention, those poor guys are often risking their lives in high winds/ high seas without PFDs.) And IMHO....It seems, the (over fishing) destruction is at its worst, the weeks before Easter, thanks to Lent. On the other hand, I have heard that the ban on fishing near the Delta is holding up well....yeah! I wish there were some kind of 'BajaTip' phone or email address, where visitors or residente permanentes could anonymously alert the proper agency to handle the worst (obviouslt consistent) offenders.
I just came across this interesting link: http://www.ediblebajaarizona.com/the-fish-in-our-foodshed

luv2fish - 12-27-2014 at 04:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ChicaSierra  
Sometime in October, they (Mex. govn't) came through the Gonzaga area and told the locals there would be no more gillnetting. It was nice that these guys obeyed the request for a few weeks, but unfortunately were back at it again by mid-November. It is hard enough to watch the shrimper boats raping the floor of the SOC every darn day, but those nasty gillnets just really pee me off! Very, very unsustainable to say the least... Are these commercial fleets we see, mostly unregulated pangas (from SF ??) ......no doubt, selling the catch internationally. (Not to mention, those poor guys are often risking their lives in high winds/ high seas without PFDs.) And IMHO....It seems, the (over fishing) destruction is at its worst, the weeks before Easter, thanks to Lent. On the other hand, I have heard that the ban on fishing near the Delta is holding up well....yeah! I wish there were some kind of 'BajaTip' phone or email address, where visitors or residente permanentes could anonymously alert the proper agency to handle the worst (obviouslt consistent) offenders.
I just came across this interesting link: http://www.ediblebajaarizona.com/the-fish-in-our-foodshed


A couple of times while at the Bay in San Q. we've been offered female lobsters with the egg sack still in tact, during closed lobster season, sooo sad and no I wouldnt buy them..