BajaNomad - 2-DOG LIMIT PER VEHICLE~NEW LAW (?)

2-DOG LIMIT PER VEHICLE~NEW LAW (?)

Marla Daily - 12-15-2014 at 07:54 AM

We were notified at the Tecate border a few days ago (headed south) that there is a new law that limits the number of dogs one can have in a vehicle to TWO. We happen to travel with 4 dogs, three of them former street dogs (one each from La Purisima, Cataviña and Loreto).

We were allowed to cross "this time", but told we would be turned away in the future.

Next time I guess I'll have to walk across with two, while my husband drives across with the other two...

AKgringo - 12-15-2014 at 08:24 AM

I wonder if this is a border issue, or if you will have problems further south?
I haven't run into a whole lot of people that travel with four dogs, but wonder if anyone else has encountered this policy at other border crossings stations.
Did they check all four dogs papers work? I travel with one dog, and in four trips I have never been asked for her health certificate or shot records by Mexican or US agents.
By the way, how did this wind up under Baja recipes?

[Edited on 12-15-2014 by AKgringo]

BajaBlanca - 12-15-2014 at 08:27 AM

What could possibly be the reasoning behind this law?

Pescador - 12-15-2014 at 09:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca

What could possibly be the reasoning behind this law?

And when did you expect reasoning behind laws?

chuckie - 12-15-2014 at 09:52 AM

In Mexico?

dtbushpilot - 12-15-2014 at 09:59 AM

I wonder if they count cats? When we have the dogs (2) we always have the cats (2) too. The cats are in carriers.

LancairDriver - 12-15-2014 at 10:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

I wonder if this is a border issue, or if you will have problems further south?
I haven't run into a whole lot of people that travel with four dogs, but wonder if anyone else has encountered this policy at other border crossings stations.
Did they check all four dogs papers work? I travel with one dog, and in four trips I have never been asked for her health certificate or shot records by Mexican or US agents.
By the way, how did this wind up under Baja recipes?

[Edited on 12-15-2014 by AKgringo]

Glad I didn't notice this was posted under "Baja Recipes" when I first opened it. Otherwise it would have been incomprehensible.

willardguy - 12-15-2014 at 10:17 AM

maybe this isn't new? this from some mexico travel site called "about travel"

You may or may not be asked to present these documents, but you should have them with you just in case. You are allowed to enter with up to two dogs or cats. If you will be traveling to Mexico with more animals, you should contact the Mexican consulate or embassy nearest you for more information.

Ateo - 12-15-2014 at 10:20 AM

Sounds like it's time to start hiding dogs.

Bob H - 12-15-2014 at 11:01 AM

And, if they are wrapped in bacon, you are really in trouble!!

AKgringo - 12-15-2014 at 11:05 AM

I think I have figured this out! When asked for the dogs paperwork, they accidentally produced recipes. They were lucky to be allowed into the country!

Cypress - 12-15-2014 at 11:23 AM

I see a dog fee/tax being cooked-up.

Hook - 12-15-2014 at 12:06 PM

Ten Mexicans without seat belts in a p/u bed is fine............but only two dogs, even in a cab? :rolleyes:

Marla Daily - 12-15-2014 at 01:18 PM

OP HERE. After crossing the border, we had no problems on our drive south to Loreto with four dogs. In our many years of driving the peninsula with our canine companions, we have not once been asked for dog papers, yet we always have them available just in case.

Twice we have been saved a terrible fate by our furry friends, and we will never travel without them:

Once while camped on Coronados Island (when it was still allowed), our two dogs went wild at 3:00 AM and broke through the tent screen, barking and running towards the water. We turned on a spotlight just in time to stop two pangueros from stealing our boat! They had rowed silently in to the cove, but the dogs heard them. When our spotlight hit them; they dropped our anchor rope, started their engine and zoomed off.

The other time, we were camped in our land cruiser with the tailgate down, in the beach dunes south of San Quintin. Our dogs were asleep on their bed on the tailgate, when, at 3:30 AM they
leaped off of the tailgate onto and after two men, one of whom had a club in hand. The men fled, and once again our furry friends saved us from a likely unpleasant disaster.

And last, as to how this post got put into recipes, I was looking at the potato soup before I posted this. Oops! I only look at Today's Posts and forgot there were ways to segregate topics. Sorry. I don't know how to fix it.

bajabuddha - 12-15-2014 at 02:07 PM

It's in 'recipes' because of the new cook book, "100 Ways to Wok Your Dog". :biggrin:

Bob53 - 12-15-2014 at 02:22 PM

jajajajajajaja

elgatoloco - 12-15-2014 at 02:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/cookingwithdog

My wife enjoys this show. Good recipes. :saint:

The correct forum

AKgringo - 12-15-2014 at 03:16 PM

I see that this thread got moved to Questions and Answers, but it did provide some diversion for a rainy (northern CA) afternoon!
I would still like to know if the two pet limit applies to how many can be brought into Baja, or how many are legal to have in the vehicle.
I can see local police looking for a 'Mordida' using our pets to extort money if there is such a law on the books

chuckie - 12-15-2014 at 04:14 PM

Mordida is, after all....The bite

DianaT - 12-15-2014 at 05:40 PM

It is Christmas Time --- need more money

UnoMas - 12-15-2014 at 05:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBlanca

What could possibly be the reasoning behind this law?

Blanca, the cops feel very unconfortable when fleecing you out of your money when out numbered by dogs.. :lol:

BajaBlanca - 12-15-2014 at 07:50 PM

:biggrin:

well, I hope this is just mordida hogwash and that the law has not really changed.

We only have one dog and he doesn't even go north with us usually, but I did not understand this rule nor do I like it.

RogerMears - 12-16-2014 at 06:02 AM

We just crossed at Los Algodones with three dogs. They said nothing other than asking us their names and said the little ones were cute! We have two smaller dogs (Cairn Terriers) and one Black Lab. This was our first experience crossing at Algodones and it was by far the most pleasant crossing we've ever had! We were towing a Toy Hauler, they had us pull to the side, they checked us out and we were on our way in less then 10 minutes. We also went to the dentista for the first time in Algodones (Dr. Eva Urena) and the experience was awesome! Root canal and crown. NO PAIN to the mouth or wallet!! Roger and Carol

mtgoat666 - 12-16-2014 at 07:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Marla Daily

We were notified at the Tecate border a few days ago (headed south) that there is a new law that limits the number of dogs one can have in a vehicle to TWO. We happen to travel with 4 dogs, three of them former street dogs (one each from La Purisima, Cataviña and Loreto).

We were allowed to cross "this time", but told we would be turned away in the future.

Next time I guess I'll have to walk across with two, while my husband drives across with the other two...

Not a new law, just an old law that has not been enforced.
The mexican border is getting modernized, more and better trained staff. The old ways of inconsistent enforcement are passing, you best follow the rules.

There are permits for taking more than 2 dogs, look it up

Ya learn something new every day or at least hope to

Howard - 12-16-2014 at 09:01 AM

I found the below web site and sure as the police collect money for their Christmas fund, it's true, 3 dog max without paperwork.

http://consulmex.sre.gob.mx/reinounido/index.php/visas/79

Nota Bene
When you intend to introduce into Mexico three or more pets or any other animal species , you must fulfil the requirements established on the Zoo-sanitary Requirements Page (Hoja de Requisitos Zoosanitarios).

Marla Daily - 12-17-2014 at 06:36 AM

So just how are dogs counted? In Mexico it all depends on who is doing the counting and how the law is being applied.

We were told the "new law" (passed less than two months ago) specifically applies to the number of dogs per vehicle, and not to the number of dogs per owner. Thus two people in the same car cannot have more than one dog each; three people in the same car cannot have one dog each and cross the border.

Flying into Mexico dogs are counted per owner, with limits set per flight. For example, Alaska Airlines (allegedly) uses Vari-kennel crate-sizes (100-500) to establish the limit of dogs in cargo per flight. Kennel size count is limited to any combination of kennels not to exceed 800.

mtgoat666 - 12-17-2014 at 07:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Marla Daily

So just how are dogs counted? In Mexico it all depends on who is doing the counting and how the law is being applied.

We were told the "new law" (passed less than two months ago) specifically applies to the number of dogs per vehicle, and not to the number of dogs per owner. Thus two people in the same car cannot have more than one dog each; three people in the same car cannot have one dog each and cross the border.

Flying into Mexico dogs are counted per owner, with limits set per flight. For example, Alaska Airlines (allegedly) uses Vari-kennel crate-sizes (100-500) to establish the limit of dogs in cargo per flight. Kennel size count is limited to any combination of kennels not to exceed 800.

Since you cross the border with so many dogs, it would behoove you to go read the law. Please report back here after you read the law, curious to hear the answer.