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Commercial Fishing suspended in San Felipe

CortezBlue - 12-31-2014 at 06:01 PM

Sitting down at Pete's Camp the other night the bar tender, Juan, mentioned that Mexico is suspending commercial fishing north of Puertocitos.

There is a concern that burglary will be on the incline. So if you have a place down here, check with you friends and neighbors to keep an eye on your casa.

David K - 12-31-2014 at 06:15 PM

I hope that not just the Vaquita rebound, but the Totuava (totoaba) too!

Both species live and breed north of Puertecitos.

So does this mean the price of shrimp will jump as this is all shrimping grounds?

Fishermen out of a job? Break-ins south of San Felipe are being reported.

sancho - 12-31-2014 at 06:41 PM

As I remember, the fishing ban is not for an extended
time, was reported the commercial fishermen will
be compensated to some degree, but it is Mex

CortezBlue - 12-31-2014 at 10:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by sancho  
As I remember, the fishing ban is not for an extended
time, was reported the commercial fishermen will
be compensated to some degree, but it is Mex


I heard it is for 2 years. I also heard that they are suppose to be subsidized as well.

redhilltown - 1-1-2015 at 01:33 AM

Sure wish they could go a bit further south and add Gonzaga Bay to this list...

Russ - 1-1-2015 at 06:12 AM

I also hope it works. There are many species that span up there.

Alan - 1-1-2015 at 12:11 PM

It will probably be just as effective as their ban on gill nets.

willardguy - 1-1-2015 at 12:15 PM

pay gill netters to not fish totoaba to save the vaquita?
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/compensation-plan-protect-va...


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by: willardguy

weebray - 1-1-2015 at 03:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by redhilltown  
Sure wish they could go a bit further south and add Gonzaga Bay to this list...


I totally agree. In fact a very good case could be made for extending it South to CSL. In fact it would be a REALLY good idea to exclude all fishing of any type for a few months or years. Think of it as an investment in the future fishery.

AKgringo - 1-1-2015 at 04:32 PM

Laws and regulations are only as good as the enforcement. Shutting down law abiding fishermen may just boost the profit margins of the poachers.

luv2fish - 1-1-2015 at 05:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alan  
It will probably be just as effective as their ban on gill nets.


OR GUNS. What we need is enforcement and education. I find it amazing how through education the once coveted coahuama is now not only protected but a new industry has spawned in turtle friendly tourism.

http://www.seeturtles.org/mexico-baja-california-sur/

http://www.grupotortuguero.org/home/

Pacifico - 1-1-2015 at 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by weebray  
Quote: Originally posted by redhilltown  
Sure wish they could go a bit further south and add Gonzaga Bay to this list...


I totally agree. In fact a very good case could be made for extending it South to CSL. In fact it would be a REALLY good idea to exclude all fishing of any type for a few months or years. Think of it as an investment in the future fishery.


I agree...

brewer - 1-5-2015 at 09:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
pay gill netters to not fish totoaba to save the vaquita?
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/compensation-plan-protect-va...


[URL=http://s1150. ... 12-28-2014 at 03:42 AM
by: willardguy


Isn't the Totoaba illegal to catch to begin with?

willardguy - 1-5-2015 at 09:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by brewer  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
pay gill netters to not fish totoaba to save the vaquita?
http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/compensation-plan-protect-va...


[URL=http://s1150. ... 12-28-2014 at 03:42 AM
by: willardguy


Isn't the Totoaba illegal to catch to begin with?


of course....thats the irony ;)

Tioloco - 1-5-2015 at 09:45 PM

Was doing some desert exploring in upper sea of cortez last weekend and came upon several piles of discarded sea bass. All had been gutted but no meat taken. Piles of fish were left behind small dune areas. Sad to see so much good fish going to waste. I am sure this activity is already illegal, no?

treuboff - 1-5-2015 at 10:02 PM

They were gutted for there swim bladders. I fish up and down from SF to Gonzaga and there is boatoads of " WSB " along that area

Tioloco - 1-5-2015 at 10:03 PM

What a waste

sancho - 1-6-2015 at 12:44 PM

Bladders sounds like the Far East trade in that mythical
aphrodisiac parts of fish, etc. Shark fins, bear PARTS,
as I remember sea urchin row, don't know if Mex has a market
for that misguided wives tale

David K - 1-6-2015 at 12:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by treuboff  
They were gutted for there swim bladders. I fish up and down from SF to Gonzaga and there is boatoads of " WSB " along that area


Sad if the entire fish isn't utilized, if it is being killed anyway. Totuava was once a specialty of Anthony's Fish Grotto in San Diego. Maybe "white sea bass" has to make the list too, so it can't continue cover for the illegal totuaba catch?

willardguy - 1-6-2015 at 01:54 PM

the mexican government allows for farm raised totoava to be sold in markets and restaurants.
now of course the dilemma is how do you spot the farm raised fish from the poached variety? good luck!:?:

sancho - 1-6-2015 at 02:35 PM

I understand there has been, for a while, a grow out Toutava
program in Ensenada, where artificial repo of Toutava fry
are raised then put in the Cortez, don't know their success

redhilltown - 1-10-2015 at 12:45 AM

Until gill nets are banned I can't imagine "success"...Totoaba and Corvina run together in predictable paths.

ChicaSierra - 1-10-2015 at 08:08 AM

I wonder if this would be a solution to help (catch and release) totuava?? Very interesting program on how anglers are having success saving fish from 'the bends.'
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/01/06/374187614/how-an...

willardguy - 1-10-2015 at 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ChicaSierra  
I wonder if this would be a solution to help (catch and release) totuava?? Very interesting program on how anglers are having success saving fish from 'the bends.'
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/01/06/374187614/how-an...


their eyeballs sink back in, their stomach's return, and they swim off! who knew?:light: fascinating!

treuboff - 1-10-2015 at 11:57 PM

The method that is in use is to puncture the bladder and the fish will sink. Don't know if it is still fatal or not. But they don't resurface.
Totoaba can be caught ,unintentionally, from SF to Gonzaga all the time. Doesn't seem to be a large shortage. Usually in the 15-20 lb. range.