BajaNomad - I have soo given up on sporting events.

I have soo given up on sporting events.

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 04:42 PM

"Shamed cyclist Lance Armstrong believes the time is coming when he should be forgiven for doping and lying - and told the BBC he would probably do it again."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/30981609

And Jr. had his brain autopsied after his suicide as he thought it may have something to do with football.

Haven't seen a game or supported the home team Chargers since.

I am not familiar with all the events in Baja car and MC racing. I only am aware of the schedules so I can stay away.

For those of you "in the know" is cheating rampant in that sport also.

willardguy - 1-26-2015 at 04:52 PM

yes

sancho - 1-26-2015 at 05:11 PM

What's next? Deflating football's in the NFL

willardguy - 1-26-2015 at 05:13 PM

anything for that competitive edge

StuckSucks - 1-26-2015 at 05:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

yes

To elaborate on this answer, I've only seen it about a thousand times.

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 05:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by sancho

What's next? Deflating football's in the NFL

Naw. Let them go at it with the illegal, deadly hits until they're all brain dead.

The money is all that counts, they can afford the med's. And the ultra-rico's own the teams.

Think they give a ....?

willardguy - 1-26-2015 at 05:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

yes

To elaborate on this answer, I've only seen it about a thousand times.

heck, nascar has turned it into an art form!

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 05:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

anything for that competitive edge

Thanks Guy. Good input.

"Lance Armstrong believes the time is coming when he should be forgiven for doping and lying."

He was my Grandson's HERO.

He wanted to be JUST LIKE HIM.

We got the bikes, we got the equipment, we got the news, we have a heart-broken little boy.

"How could he???"

He lost his hero and it's all around us.

Why try?

Mega-Bucks to get Brained

MrBillM - 1-26-2015 at 05:38 PM

Admittedly, I have Zero interest in "most" spectator sporting events (Baseball and Sports Car/F1 racing being the two exceptions), BUT I don't really see why anyone would get worked up over the NFL "Concussion" business.

The players are being (overly) well-compensated and CHOOSE to take the risks and provide the entertainment. Like Prize-Fighters, if they suffer in later years and (some) become Babbling Boobs, have Strokes or end up twitching and stammering like Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali, SO WHAT ?

As far as cheating goes..................there's been cheating for (probably) as long as there's been sports. The latest example of what "may" have not been cheating at all is pretty trivial.

Who CARES ?

Obviously, nobody should.

Barry A. - 1-26-2015 at 05:54 PM

In a Free Society we have the freedom to make choices. There are consequences for those choices, always.

To me that is the end of the story on "sporting events" and their participants, but I agree that makes it hard to watch contact sports or extreme sports, so I don't.

I do watch non-contact sports, tho. (sailing, tennis, golf, etc.)

Barry

woody with a view - 1-26-2015 at 05:56 PM

tell your grandson to stay in school and idolize a brainiac. there is a movie called "the theory of everything" if you want to get him started now!

Well.....................Maybe

MrBillM - 1-26-2015 at 06:07 PM

Stephen Hawking is NOT the perfect example of what someone would like to grow up to be.

rts551 - 1-26-2015 at 06:11 PM

You may not like contact sports, but you are paying for them, at least if you pay taxes. Here is just one of the ways.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/border-protection-len...

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view

tell your grandson to stay in school and idolize a brainiac. there is a movie called "the theory of everything" if you want to get him started now!

He surfs pretty much daily. Sails with MBYC's junior program. Bikes all the time but is not going to be competitive in it. Does well in school. Happy with him but came to the realization of what disappointment in a "hero" can bring, something I and all of us came to know years ago.

Travels a lot and is in Hawaii now for two weeks. He's a good kid.

Oh, diving. Brought up both my kids on water sports instead of contact sports. Oldest son, (his uncle) is fifth in the world as a platform diver. Youngest son was training in H.S. for an Olympic springboard until his accident which took him out of springboard diving forever.

Kinda hard to cheat from a board or a platform. Maybe that's why they feel good for their accomplishments, they earned them, didn't steal them.

How this cyclist can sleep at night is beyond me.

Marc - 1-26-2015 at 06:26 PM

As a long time competitor (now retired) in several sports; there are ways to get an edge without cheating as anyone who's been there knows.

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 06:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

You may not like contact sports, but you are paying for them, at least if you pay taxes. Here is just one of the ways.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/border-protection-len...

let's see. That will put a bunch of bucks in the owner's pockets taken straight from ours.

Yeah, were screwed.

Incidentally, what does it cost now for a baseball or football game. you know, with the hot-dog, beer, parking...

Last game I went to was a Padres game with my die-hard Padres fan Grandmother at Lane Field. (foot of Broadway).

I spent the game shooting pigeons up in the top rows of seats with my sling-shot.

One thing I did learn from that experience that has always stayed with me is why they put the stands where they do.

I told her they should have faced them toward the bay so I could see the boats which were my love.

She explained that the games were always in the afternoon and they wanted us to be in the shade. I check that out everytime I see a photo of a ball field and it seems to run true.

Rule 1.04

MrBillM - 1-26-2015 at 06:55 PM

States that it is desirable (though not mandatory) that the field be laid out so that a line drawn from Home Base through the Pitchers plate be East-Northeast.

The purpose being that the afternoon sun would not be in the Batter's eyes.

Cisco - 1-26-2015 at 07:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

States that it is desirable (though not mandatory) that the field be laid out so that a line drawn from Home Base through the Pitchers plate be East-Northeast.

The purpose being that the afternoon sun would not be in the Batter's eyes.

Oh. So it's in the pitcher's eyes.

Got it.

Same rule apply in the lower hemisphere?

The LOWER Hemisphere ?

MrBillM - 1-26-2015 at 10:24 PM

Although I have a number of books with the rules, including " The Rules of Baseball Explained" containing Historical and Anecdotal notes on each rule, THAT doesn't seem to be something ever considered.

WHAT do YOU think ?

BTW, regarding favoring "Pitchers v. Hitters", it has often been noted that Scoring fills the seats and, in the most memorable of modern examples, after a stellar Pitchers year (1968) when the overall ERA fell to a 50-year low (2.98, I think), the mound was lowered dramatically from 15" to 10". Since then, the ERA's been around 4+.

A Pitchers duel is generally only interesting when it's record-setting.

[Edited on 1-27-2015 by MrBillM]

JZ - 1-26-2015 at 10:41 PM

Sounds like a chitty way to live OP. Just watched my Buckeyes crash Bama and the Ducks. Wouldn't trade those moments watching them with my two young sons for anything.

mtgoat666 - 1-26-2015 at 10:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

Well.....................Maybe
Stephen Hawking is NOT the perfect example of what someone would like to grow up to be.

i suppose it is unanimous here in nomadlandia that we hope our children (and all children) grow up to be the opposite of you, mr bile. a true measure of success is being anything but you.

mtgoat666 - 1-26-2015 at 11:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

"Shamed cyclist Lance Armstrong believes the time is coming when he should be forgiven for doping and lying - and told the BBC he would probably do it again."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/30981609

And Jr. had his brain autopsied after his suicide as he thought it may have something to do with football.

Haven't seen a game or supported the home team Chargers since.

I am not familiar with all the events in Baja car and MC racing. I only am aware of the schedules so I can stay away.

For those of you "in the know" is cheating rampant in that sport also.

he was great athlete, perhaps one of the greatest, even when he was not on drugs. the reality is that drugs give you a little extra, but won't help if you don't got true ability and the right body. his determination and grit were incredible, even if he was doping.

i forgave him long ago. but it was easy, as i never really thought badly of him. they all take performance enhancing drugs at the top level (all the sports), if you acknowledge that, you can come out of your room and stop your pouting.

cisco, does your distaste for cheating extend to women with silicone boobs? are they cheaters too?

ANYTHING ?

MrBillM - 1-26-2015 at 11:12 PM

BUT ?

Someone who has lived a productive life gainfully employed over 40 years, never on the dole, served their country in the military and never had any infraction worse than a traffic citation ?

ANYTHING ?

Yeah, that IS the way a Liberal thinks.

Thanks for the affirmation of my beliefs.

mtgoat666 - 1-27-2015 at 07:41 AM

It is neither a liberal or conservative thing for parents to hope their children do not turn out to be psychopaths :light:

The GAME just isn't what it used to be............

MrBillM - 1-27-2015 at 09:41 AM

Or, as Don Meredith once said: "They don't make 'em like that anymore......................And, they NEVER did."

Quotations regarding THE "Game" (whichever game that might be) complaining of corruption can be found going back to the mid-1800s and (likely) earlier.

Those soldiers under George Washington playing Baseball at Valley Forge probably had cheaters.

[Edited on 1-27-2015 by MrBillM]

Barry A. - 1-27-2015 at 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

Yeah, well, BERNIE MADOFF was a great and successful CON MAN, but that does not make him one to be admired.

'Silicon-boobie-babes' are cheaters too, in my book, and I want nothing to do with them. (their priorities are ALL screwed up)

Barry

Memorex Mammary Mounds

MrBillM - 1-27-2015 at 12:01 PM

ARE an odd fetish.

Cisco - 1-28-2015 at 03:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by Cisco

Would not call them cheaters, what their reasons were would have to be addressed.

Unless a person is malformed or injured I don't think the obsession we have with "beauty" should extend to implementing surgeries.

Nor do I think that athletic enhancement through steroids or other chemical means is a good thing for the body or the sport.

But, I'm also not up for body art either.

Take into account that Tantra and Poly-Amory are fine with me and reflect a general mental, physical and spiritual health that is not shown in our "fake-it" society.

The drugs, alcohol, cheating academically, physically, in sport and business
are all reflective of a low self esteem, hyper-egotism, or diseased (as in Biley's case) outlook.

Personally, my opinion only and I have not researched this, is that the general malaise of not being beautiful enough (by our standards), bright enough, physically developed enough...is brought on by those folks that sell you all the stuff you need to become.

ON EDIT GOAT: Your statement "they all take performance enhancing drugs at the top level (all the sports), if you acknowledge that, you can come out of your room and stop your pouting."

They ALL???

If so then society truly is gone. And your statement certainly changes my opinion of you.

[Edited on 1-28-2015 by Cisco]