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A Water Witch In Baja

Pompano - 1-27-2015 at 09:03 AM








DOWSING ... also known as Water Witching


"Water witching" refers in general to the ancient practice of using a forked stick, rod, pendulum, or similar device to locate groundwater mostly, but also buried treasure and even missing people.



Confusion exists as to the first historical reference to the divining rod as an instrument to locate water. Either 1568 or 1630 are cited as the first written references. In any event, from about that time on, the divining rod was used in southern Europe in search of water.

A while back (1975), we used the craft of dowsing (using bent metal rods) to locate a fresh-water source in Baja Sur, which as you know, is a very arid place. Here a steady supply of usable fresh water is like gold.

When Thomas Edison was once asked, 'What is electricity?' He replied, "I don't know ...but it's there, so let's use it."

The same assertion applies to dowsing. We don't really know what it is, but we can't deny it's existence, so we use it. History shows us that we have been dowsing for thousands of years. The photo below shows a cave painting depicting a water-witcher using a forked stick. The painting on the rock was discovered in the Atlas Mountains in North Africa and was carbon-dated to be 8000 years old.




Here's when we used Water-witching in Baja.

A while back (1975), we used the craft of 'dowsing' to locate a fresh-water source in Baja Sur, which as you well know, is a very arid land. A source of fresh water is golden.


For our situation, the dowser was Blackjack, here shown in this collage. As some of you may know, Blackjack (JW Black) was the ramrod on many expedition trips into Baja by author and amatuer anthropologist, Earl Stanley Gardner. Gardner is also known for his Perry Mason mystery short stories. Blackjack and his wife, Lois, fondly called him Uncle Earl during our many campfire talks about those expeditions.




Blackjack was a very good friend for many years. We met in those very early days at Coyote Bay and these collages show some of the times and events we shared in Baja ...back-in-the-day.






Here's an anecdote about Blackjack. One night, when a bunch of us were sitting around my fire pit, the discussion turned to the nuclear power plant incident at 3-Mile Island near Middleton, Pennsylvania. It had just happened a week before and was the talk of the world at that time.

Over our fire pit a friend from Las Vegas said to Blackjack,

"JW, you know a lot about a lot of things. Can you explain to us how one of those nuclear reactors work?"

Blackjack (JW) was quiet for a bit, just sat there in his denim shirt with the Beechnut bag in the pocket, wearing his old campaign hat with a dried-up scorpion on the band, and then spit a stream of tobacco into the fire.

He said, "Look here, Lloyd, do you know what bear scat looks like?"

"What?..uh, No. What's that got to do with it?", Lloyd says.

JW..."How about sheep pellets? Know about those?"

Llloyd.."Hell no, I'm from Vegas, you know that, JW."

JW..."Do you know what buffalo chips are?"

Lloyd..."Nope...no idea."

JW then spits again and says, "Well, look here, Lloyd. You want me to explain a nuclear reactor to you and you don't know sh_t."

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On with the quest for water....


Blackjack mentions to us some obvious benefits of a water source for the Mulege palm forests as an example. Now this where my story begins...Our ranchero friend, Manuel Diaz, had heard of Blackjack's ability to dowse water and asked him if he could locate some water on his ranchland in the hills behind Coyote Bay. Blackjack gladly offered his services and invited me to accompany them on this search for water.






Oddly for a water-witcher, he didn't like getting wet, and he would only go boating close by his camp and in calm water. I took him out fishing just once...he got sprayed with saltwater and that was the end of that.





In JW's prototype 'Grasshopper', we drove back into Manuel's high country land looking for likely spots to find water. Being a very active inventor, Blackjack later manufactured his Grasshoppers at his shop in Paradise Ca. The later cars has a top with small port holes on the side and has small front fenders they turn with the wheels. The rear fenders are larger and cover more of the tire. It was a very fun machine to expore the Baja outbacks.

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This is from high above Conception Bay.







We drove over some more level terrain, checking many possible locations. I was looking the countryside over and thinking...'Oh-oh, Blackjack. Slim chance of water around here.' Lots of lizards, though, if that helps.





Blackjack would get out and use his forked metal wands every now and then. I'd point out the occasional lizard sunning itslef on a rock. And some bleached bones here and there.



He got a good read on this particular stop. I watched with a healthy amount of skepticism as the metal rods began to cross....harump-harump. I liked Blackjack a lot for many reasons, not the least of which was his wry sense of humor. So I was thinking, 'Atta boy, Blackjack...make those wands cross and get Manuel all excited!'







Blackjack finishes his discovery and tells Manuel this is a good place to dig....and how deep the water was to boot!

Hoo-boy! Now I'm choking back my guffaws and almost splitting my sides. A chukwalla skuttles off into the spiked scrub..






"Manuel, dig here, amigo. Mucho agua."







Intrigued by Blackjacks findings and wanting to see for himself about this new craft, Manuel trys it ..and Bingo...the wands cross and he's become a believer! Amigo Manuel has a huge grin on his face as does Blackjack.

I'm getting a bit perplexed, 'Hmm...could it be?'





Okay, okay... I sure don't want to be left out...and so I give it a go. Blackjack smiles wryly at me and hands me the wands. I hold them straight out and start walking, almost sorry to have to debunk this water-witching pony show.

And then...try as I might, I could NOT stop those wands from crossing. YES...I am now a disciple of the art of dowsing. ...And alien abduction, too, but that's another story.







Well, we'd located water for Manuel on his high ranch and he was all set to dig his well to water his avacodos or start a lizard spa. We left him to it and set off on another water quest.

Now it's my turn to ask for water. After my baptism into the brotherhood of water-witchers, I decide to rely on Blackjack to find our Coyote Bay houses a reliable water source...which he did in short order on my rear lot. Marching around with his wands he indicated the best area to find fresh water. He said the find indicated a large amount of water and not deep at all...within 15 feet. We quickly dug a test well and sure enough, there was plenty of fresh water. Many onlookers were amazed and happy. No more frequent trips to Mulege to fill truck tanks!

With his guidance and with the help of neighbors and interested helpers, we start construction on a water tower that will eventually supply 10 homes and a school. By the way, Blackjack was also an expert welder, doing all the layouts and then making all the welds on this tower. That tower stood the test of time for 40 years.






Nearing the end of construction, and realizing that raising the tower was going to take more than a rope and pulley with some strong backs, I went looking for help..and luckily found these campers on Coyote Beach with a Search and Rescue truck with a powerful front winch. All went well and we raised the tower without a problem. We used a gin pole to lift 4 water pilars on top. Almost time to pump the water up and give it The Test.



Old Baja vets will know that this experience was like emerging out of the dark ages to have all that fresh water by merely opening a faucet. Almost a spiritual moment. I won't say I cried, but I did get a little giddy while standing under that tower and letting it overflow in the heat of damn-its-hot summers....oh what joy that was! My own 40ft cool refreshing waterfall! I was in a decadent heaven.


In addition, all of that water-witching made this possible. Life became good ...back-in-the-day.




Muchas Gracias, Blackjack!




[Edited on 1-28-2015 by Pompano]

woody with a view - 1-27-2015 at 09:28 AM

Damn good!

That grasshopper looks like a sporty Munsters Mobile.

sancho - 1-27-2015 at 09:38 AM

Was with a backhoe operator yrs.ago, looking for
underground pipe. He shows me 2 metal rods kinda
like metal coat hanger
pieces, looked like a snipe hunt
to me.One in each hand, loosely held, the 2 tips of
the rods would converge over, probably any thing
underground, water , metal.etc., I'm a skeptic, after
that display a believer




David K - 1-27-2015 at 10:43 AM

Thanks Roger... a great story!

J.W. Black was also one of the first to drive to Mission Santa Maria in one of his Grasshopper's...


Skipjack Joe - 1-27-2015 at 11:10 AM

Need water? Just ask old Jonas.

It starts 8:00 minutes into the episode.


roundtuit - 1-27-2015 at 09:17 PM

Witching does work I use two brass wielding rods and have had good results:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

bledito - 1-27-2015 at 09:37 PM

I wworked in the natural gas industry for over 30 years and used these same rod steel or copper to locate underground utilities be it a gas line or water service. in the method of use the rods would turn outward as you crossed the path of the utilty run pointing out the direction it ran. I have never tried to locate water with it though perhaps the line of flow is picked up. will have to try it out next time i'm messsin around in baja and see if it does the trick or not. I have also found that not everybody has the ability to do it as i have taught many people over the years how to do it, some can do it and other can't don't know why that is. maybe it has something to do with the persons ability to conduct magnatizem or conduct electricity.

AKgringo - 1-27-2015 at 10:14 PM

In the late 70s, near Grass Valley CA, my dad had a local dowser come out and locate the best spots to drill a couple of wells. He used a pair of rods just like the ones in Pompano's photos, which he could only work with for short periods of time due to arthritis in both hands.
He located a couple of good spots which later proved to be productive wells. one of them was near a dry hole that had already been drilled, but missed the aquifier, proving that we couldn't just drill anywhere and find water.
Dad tried his skills with the rods, and got nothing. The old guy came over to dad, and lightly placed his hands on Dad's wrists, and the rods crossed like they did when he was using them.
I don't have the touch either, but I am a believer!

fish101 - 1-28-2015 at 07:09 AM

Great story, Roger.. Brings back memories of my early days being a "DOWSER" or Water Witch in Vermont. My parents had hired a local dowser to look for a good source of water for our new home in the hills. Yes, he found a spring very close to the house, however, in a very short time, it dried up. Dad tried his hand at Dowsing, but did not work for him and I don't think he really believed in it either. But, I tried it and it worked for me. During that summer, I had many calls from neighboring friends of my parents, saying that their water source had dried up. I quit my part time job that summer to attend to the Water Witching and finding that the main vein of water to their springs had moved and in some cases at least two feet. I could not get it to work with the metal rods, but used the forked branches from a tree, but it had to be a fruit bearing tree (peach, cherry,, etc). A lot of non-believers during that time, but after they dug their wells where I had predicted, I think they started believing. Some of these water holes were dug in the 50's and are still being used by my friends in Vt.. I am now in Loreto BCS, so maybe I should get the old witching sticks out to see if I can find any water in those hills behind us?? Thanks, Roger.

David K - 1-28-2015 at 09:22 AM

I love this stuff... I watched a witcher perform in Baja once... and while it looks a little flaky, there's enough positive results to not dismiss it. Seems magnetic fields have an affect and metals or water are conductive. I used the welding rod tool method like J.W. Black in Roger's photos, and they crossed when I walked over a bottle of water! I guess I was a believer?!

willardguy - 1-28-2015 at 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I love this stuff... I watched a witcher perform in Baja once... and while it looks a little flaky, there's enough positive results to not dismiss it. Seems magnetic fields have an affect and metals or water are conductive. I used the welding rod tool method like J.W. Black in Roger's photos, and they crossed when I walked over a bottle of water! I guess I was a believer?!


bet you got that Ouija board pretty dialed in too eh?:lol:

Pompano - 1-28-2015 at 10:33 AM


My old amigo, Blackjack, was a very unassuming...yet a very impressive... character. I thoroughly enjoyed being around him. His ability to tackle and solve problems was, and is, typical of the once common 'can-do' attitude as opposed to many of today's self-entitled who merely wait for some directive and a government handout.

As for his ability, and so many others throughout history, to dowse or 'witch' water, nobody can really explain How it works, just that it Does. Call it electro-magnetism, a feat of the mind via self-assurance, whatever....I don't think we can call it voo-doo and categorize it in the Occult anymore like the church did in the Spanish Inquisition. Rather than Occult, we might better list it in the Arcane Practices file?

I am pleased to see how many have experience or first-hand knowledge of dowsing. My uncle Norman had the knack and used his ability on his farm. He never advertised the fact, but many came seeking his help.

An interesting subject - water witching. Empirical proof helps us validate what we should and shouldn't believe, but sometimes cold hard facts just aren't available. Even when we don't have solid proof, however, humans still tend to extend their sense of belief to certain phenomenon.

A few notable people have been dowsers or have written of it's success.

Dr. Karl Berg, Arch-Bishop of Salzburg

Henry the VIII

Vernon Cameron

Leonardo De Vinci

Robert Boyle

Charles Richet

Albert Einstein,

General Rommel

General Patton

Some Supporters of Dowsing:
The Encyclopedia Britannica The American Academy of Science
The Academy of Sciences of Paris. The Canadian Ministry of Agriculture


Anyhoo, I'm not half-bad at it, either, and once found an unrecorded and lost waterline at a friend's house. Sure saved a lot of money on a backhoe rental.

About all this water-witching.....it's okay to be skeptical. Like gravity, karma, or women's intuition... we know it's there, we just can't quite see it yet. :rolleyes:


Sweetwater - 1-28-2015 at 11:06 AM

There was once a young lady named Hazel
who was called to give an appraisal
She pulled out a stick
and found water real quick
that amazing girl, Witch Hazel

Pompano - 1-28-2015 at 11:17 AM

Bravo, Sweetwater...a great limerick for this thread. I like it, my mother's name is Hazel. ;)

Sweetwater - 1-28-2015 at 01:26 PM

Glad you enjoyed that.....of course I had no idea that Hazel was your mom....the limerick play is on witch hazel....I wonder if anyone still uses it as an aftershave......it's pretty old school......;D

[Edited on 1-29-2015 by Sweetwater]

Pompano - 1-28-2015 at 05:10 PM

I read you, Sweetwater..all is good. One good limerick deserves another.

Whether right-wing or left, we have mothers,
But some are more pushy than others.
We can see Barbara Bush
Giving Jeb just a push
To make for historical brothers.

bledito - 1-28-2015 at 06:57 PM

note the rods would pick up overhead wires as well so it worked in both directions up and down.

Ateo - 1-28-2015 at 07:19 PM

Great story, thread title, and photos but............................and I know most people posting here don't believe in dowsing, but just for those that do:

"Most dowsers do not consider it important to doubt their dowsing powers or to wonder if they are self-deceived. They never consider doing a controlled scientific test of their powers. They think that the fact that they have been successful over the years at dowsing is proof enough. When dowsers are scientifically tested and fail, they generally react with genuine surprise. Typical is what happened when James Randi tested some dowsers using a protocol they all agreed upon. If they could locate water in underground pipes at an 80% success rate they would get $10,000 (now the prize is over $1,000,000). All the dowsers failed the test, though each claimed to be highly successful in finding water using a variety of non-scientific instruments, including a pendulum. Says Randi, "the sad fact is that dowsers are no better at finding water than anyone else. Drill a well almost anywhere in an area where water is geologically possible, and you will find it."

- skepdic.com

[Edited on 1-29-2015 by Ateo]

treuboff - 1-28-2015 at 07:54 PM

I have been doing this for years and your really never sure what I'm finding, but through deduction of facilities around the area I can figure out the individual items. My Grandmother was a water witch and took 6 of us grand kids to an area where she already knew there was a underground spring. She cut a forked willow switch and showed us how to hold it. It worked for some but not all. At work we had a fellow who was a Foursquare now Potters house parishioner, who got wide eyed and had a scared look on his face told me I was doing the devils work. So when lightning struck while we were working on a pole and the thunder roared I yelled you " you missed me God" That really spooked him. He started praying.

CortezBlue - 1-28-2015 at 08:07 PM

Back in the 60's I had an uncle who was a witcher back in Illinois.

He used solid copper wire. He showed me how to do it and I have successfully found water lines on my property.

ChicaSierra - 1-30-2015 at 08:59 AM

What a fascinating story! You guys inspired me to make some coat hanger divining rods. Yes, they totally work! I was able to locate active irrigation pipes (both rods go inward,) empty irrigation pipes (gave me one rod in and one out=both rods went to right side of body.) The rods also indicated other underground water veins. I even got indications over several pet graves here in the property. I am totally amazed and look forward to practicing my new hobby, DOWSING! Thanks so much for sharing this interesting post.

Pompano - 1-30-2015 at 09:32 AM

Bravo and congratulations on your new talent and ability, ChicaSierra. Glad you were inspired and successful.

Hope you find many treasures with your dowsing. And don't worry about any skepticsm, the Salem Witch Trials are long gone. :rolleyes:

I think it just goes to show that, like Hamlet says to his naysayer in the play, 'Hamlet'...

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."



ChicaSierra - 1-31-2015 at 07:58 AM

So true, Pompano! Thank you for your belief in the practice and your encouragement! Maybe one day, I'll take my skill to Baja...perhaps I will find some good, pure water for my friends and family who live in the Gonzaga area :yes:

David K - 1-31-2015 at 10:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ChicaSierra  
So true, Pompano! Thank you for your belief in the practice and your encouragement! Maybe one day, I'll take my skill to Baja...perhaps I will find some good, pure water for my friends and family who live in the Gonzaga area :yes:


The granite mountains just west of Gonzaga Bay store all sorts of water and you don't have to go far from the beach to see it above the sand. I can only imagine it continues to flow east under the sand. You should do well finding where to dig a well!

Just a mile inside the Arroyo Santa Maria canyon, in May (about 6 miles from the sea):



The Las Pamitas oasis is even closer to the bay, just south of this arroyo.


This tiny waterfall is just over a mile west of the Gonzaga Pemex. The water is mineralized and creates a giant glacier of white soda and future onyx...





ChicaSierra - 1-31-2015 at 03:16 PM

Yes, David....Such a wonderful place. What feels like a Sahara desert at the 'trailhead' turns gradually into a full blown oasis! I haven't made it to the top yet, but plan to, one of these days. I'd also like to check out (dowse) the area where the wash meets the gulf...P.F./Sacraficio:saint: I am always amazed at how some of the local fresh water wells are so close to the coast.
Also, some Gonzaga friends recently reported that Las Palmitas is now totally fenced off and inaccessible (I guess, for livestock, or??)..... Too bad. Nice place to check out. An 'old timer' told me about taking their rigs out there for a 'car wash,' pump and all...only to be sand blasted on the way out...silly men.
BTW, I hear there is now quite a bit of water at La Turquesa, from the deluge.
My brother (family of 4) spend months at a time in P.F., relying on a homemade de-sal water system from a shallow salt water well. It works pretty well, but ground water would be my preference/ dream.
Anyhow, thanks for the cool pics/memories!