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INEGI

PaulW - 2-23-2015 at 05:52 PM

Can some one give me the street address for INEGI in Mexicali so I can obtain some missing maps from my collection?
I cannot figure it out from their web site.
Thanks, Paul

INEGI

A-OK - 2-23-2015 at 06:07 PM



[Edited on 2-24-2015 by A-OK]

A-OK - 2-23-2015 at 06:13 PM



INEGI
Calle Calafia 462, Centro Civico, 21000 Mexicali
+52 686 904 7600

PaulW - 2-23-2015 at 06:41 PM

Thanks, Now I have to find a window to get up there.
Paul

David K - 2-23-2015 at 07:00 PM

I think they are all available on a disc too?

4x4abc - 2-23-2015 at 07:02 PM

tell us how and where

David K - 2-23-2015 at 07:09 PM

Maybe this area?


David K - 2-23-2015 at 07:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
tell us how and where


http://gaia.inegi.org.mx/mdm6/


http://www.dirbibliotecas.ipn.mx/Paginas/INEGI.aspx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqRwv1poyNE

Jack Swords - 2-23-2015 at 08:19 PM

When you go to the INEGI office and select your topo maps, they will put many on a disk for you. You can select a smaller area on your computer and print the map.

4x4abc - 2-24-2015 at 08:00 AM

online everything is still in digital stone age = Windows only

PaulW - 2-25-2015 at 03:58 PM

Sure enough all the INEGI map info is all digital and one has to download for the map of your choice.
I went to the office and after getting thru security they gave me detailed instructions and made me a DVD for the maps I need in PDF format. The the nice lady went upstairs and found the last paper maps I wanted. All the other bins were empty. She found 2 maps out of my 11 requested.
Next issue is you get a choice for the download new vs old
Old. Old means Datum NA27-Mexico. New means Datum ITRF92. Of course old also means older build date for the data.
A quick search I found that WGS84 will give the same result as ITRF92. That means a point on the map with the same coords then when you go travel to the point on the ground you will find it.
So if you have the latest from INEGI with ITRF92 you can read coords and put them in your GPS set for WGS84 and no converting - A good deal for us map plotters.
Want paper maps just go to the $copy store$ with your DVD and specify the size you want. The data is in color.
Paul

[Edited on 2-26-2015 by PaulW]

mtgoat666 - 2-25-2015 at 04:19 PM

interesting,...
is there an INEGI office in Tijuana?

David K - 2-25-2015 at 04:33 PM

Thanks Paul!

PaulW - 2-25-2015 at 05:01 PM

INEGI Map Download instructions
Stay with me in Spanish
Go to inegi.org.mx
Mouse on Geografia
Mouse on Temas
Mouse on Topografia
Click on Cartas topograficas
In the clave box enter your map number like H11B36
Click Consuiltar
Bottom of page is your map choices
Click on the pdf symbol for the newest version
2003 ITRF92 and let the file go to the desktop
Keep clicking until the desktop file looks like a PDF color picture. Duh
Try this
Double click on the file and then select to choose the application then choose PDF
Close the error messages and open the file on your desktop and view the topo map.
Use the usual PDF featured to get the zoom level and location you want.


[Edited on 2-26-2015 by PaulW]

PaulW - 2-25-2015 at 05:15 PM

Now all one needs is the map Key
I cannot find it on line - so here is a image of my key with notes on the side so you can figure out what map to download


If someone finds a link for the key. Please post

TacoFeliz - 2-25-2015 at 07:00 PM

PaulW - Thanks for the 'how to'. Works fine on a Mac, typical PDF download, easy peasy.

Ateo - 2-25-2015 at 07:19 PM

Yeah, thanks. Works well for me too.

TacoFeliz - 2-25-2015 at 07:36 PM

This link will download a zipped file with the 1:50000 maps key:

http://www.gpsinformation.org/jack/cruise/Inegi.zip

Link is from this page. This site is jam packed with info. Could make your head explode.

www.gpsinformation.org/jack/cruise/TopoMexicoMaps.html



[Edited on 2-26-2015 by TacoFeliz]

H11 B67 Bahia Santa Maria

David K - 2-25-2015 at 07:50 PM

Zoomed in on the Bahia Santa Maria to almost El Vergel part and west to the old Puertecitos Road/ Sulfur Mine 'El Apache'...



The owners of the homes on Bahia Santa Maria's bay will be interested to see they are 'abandoned'!

H11 B84 El Rosario

David K - 2-25-2015 at 08:07 PM



This is FUN!

4x4abc - 2-25-2015 at 10:09 PM

how do I find map keys for 1:20,000 topos?

PaulW - 2-26-2015 at 08:02 AM

Every thing I checked for BC has been 50k or higher. Mainland surely must have 25k?

4x4abc - 2-26-2015 at 01:54 PM

even in 50k, the stuff is entertaining

TacoFeliz - 2-27-2015 at 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
how do I find map keys for 1:20,000 topos?


Just type a large area, like "i11" into the "Clave" box and hit "Consultar". All the available maps in all scales will be listed at the foot of the page after the page refreshes. It does take a while. The page stays grayed out until it's finished.

List will show links for PDFs, Geo PDFs, GIFs and TIFs. The Geo PDFs are layered and different features can be turned on and off when you view them in Acrobat. Older PDFs are raster files, newer ones are vector. The vector files are infinitely scalable, the raster ones are not and the image quality degrades the larger they are viewed.

There are only 1:20000 maps available for specific areas, not the whole territory.

David K - 4-17-2015 at 08:03 AM

Most of the Pole Line Road Run is on Map H11B25 (Agua Caliente). The rest is on H11B26 (La Ventana) including our 'Henderson Hike' area.

BajaBlanca - 4-19-2015 at 04:19 AM

Centro de Información del Instituto Nacional de Estadística ...
www.inegi.org.mx

Avenida Via Rápida Oriente 9306
Centro, Tijuana, B.C.
01 664 979 7800

Juan Ruíz de Alarcón 9306
Zona Urbana Río
Tijuana, Tijuana, B.C.
01 664 978 7903

Mapping exercise

PaulW - 4-19-2015 at 08:29 AM

I have been busy downloading the INEGI maps. I have noticed that the 1974 and 1976 maps (and probably many other old versions) that were Datum NA1927MX have been upgraded to the new Datum ITRF92. This is good because now the topos agree with the Google Earth datum WGS84. And many GPSs used WGS84 as the default and some older units do not even have a choice of datums and are WGS84. ITRF92 is a huge advantage and now allows picking off coords off GE and plotting them on the topo because no conversion is required.
Looking at H11B25 which is the study topo for the Pole Line Road I find that included in the process of the datum change several errors have been fixed. Harald will be interested that “A de Enmedia” is now called “Arroyo” and is now in blue print.
So the exercise to get the latest topo map is a worthwhile effort. Most of the printer shops here in the states have the ability to make hard copy maps from PDF in the almost D size needed. I found the Inegi dimension is 27” so the printer scales the image to fit his stock of 24” paper. The re-size is proportional so the width is appropriate. I hope when I get back to San Felipe the cost for printed maps is less than what I paid here in the Denver area?
You all may be interested in my new project to overlay gps tracks on GE and topos. It will be a long winded effort that I will deal with later. One thing for sure that effort was a big deal. The bottom line it takes so much time I will not do it again. However my new knowledge of how the images are created was very enlightening. Very academic exercise.
Paul

David K - 4-19-2015 at 08:39 AM

Paul, thank you for what you are doing... Your efforts will be greatly appreciated by Baja back country aficionados and four wheelers!

Perhaps your work will create the next generation Baja Almanac?

PaulW - 4-19-2015 at 11:19 AM

It is probably worthwhile to repeat that going to the INEGI office wherever is not a worthwhile thing to do if all one needs are maps. They do not stock printed material at their office. And all their products that they sold to the public in the past in map or paper form is no longer possible. If you want these products then you download from their web site using the instruction in this thread. Then take the PDF files to a commercial print shop and get a real map. The result is a very good product. Of course the type of paper you specify does affect the function of the map. I was offered glossy and standard paper. Of course paper type affects he price. I cheaped out so I will have to be careful with my new maps. Your experience will vary.

They have heavy security to get entrance to visit a real person and there will be delays while approval is obtained.

It was interesting to visit the Mexicali office to see the various people at their computers don their thing. However the small area where I was allowed to go is very small compared the the rest of the facility.
Paul

FOUND THE KEY MAP!!

David K - 4-28-2015 at 10:01 PM



Baja California Sur

USE G11 or G12 then the single map # from key...







BAJA CALIFORNIA (NORTE)

David K - 4-28-2015 at 10:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Now all one needs is the map Key
I cannot find it on line - so here is a image of my key with notes on the side so you can figure out what map to download


If someone finds a link for the key. Please post


H11 or H12 + map name






4x4abc - 4-28-2015 at 10:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
I have been busy downloading the INEGI maps. I have noticed that the 1974 and 1976 maps (and probably many other old versions) that were Datum NA1927MX have been upgraded to the new Datum ITRF92. This is good because now the topos agree with the Google Earth datum WGS84. And many GPSs used WGS84 as the default and some older units do not even have a choice of datums and are WGS84. ITRF92 is a huge advantage and now allows picking off coords off GE and plotting them on the topo because no conversion is required.
Looking at H11B25 which is the study topo for the Pole Line Road I find that included in the process of the datum change several errors have been fixed. Harald will be interested that “A de Enmedia” is now called “Arroyo” and is now in blue print.
So the exercise to get the latest topo map is a worthwhile effort. Most of the printer shops here in the states have the ability to make hard copy maps from PDF in the almost D size needed. I found the Inegi dimension is 27” so the printer scales the image to fit his stock of 24” paper. The re-size is proportional so the width is appropriate. I hope when I get back to San Felipe the cost for printed maps is less than what I paid here in the Denver area?
You all may be interested in my new project to overlay gps tracks on GE and topos. It will be a long winded effort that I will deal with later. One thing for sure that effort was a big deal. The bottom line it takes so much time I will not do it again. However my new knowledge of how the images are created was very enlightening. Very academic exercise.
Paul


Paul, let me know if you need tracks - I have a few

PaulW - 4-29-2015 at 07:19 PM

When I got help at the Inegi office the nice lady said she would download the ones I requested onto a CD. What I wanted was a list of 11HB maps in the San Felipe area.
Big Surprise all of them a have a title like this “San Felipe Map 8B.tif”
The maps are zoom able and sure look different that the PDF maps we have been using.
Here is a pic in the area of the 3 summits



Contents of the CD


What she gave me is pieces of a colorized large scale map that ended up being random pieces of maps with different zoom levels. Spent plenty of time taping them together and decided the pdf topos are better, just less color.



David K - 4-30-2015 at 07:43 AM

The map above is what is in the 2003 Baja Almanac...

PaulW - 4-30-2015 at 01:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The map above is what is in the 2003 Baja Almanac...

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Thanks,
I will save them with my other Inegi downloads. They can be zoomed for a close look. I printed them so I can figure out which one to consult and there are no lat/long ticks.
Paul

PaulW - 7-23-2015 at 08:50 AM

I would like to have the link to the key. Can you provide it?
Thanks, Paul
Quote: Originally posted by David K