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1906 Salton Sink Topo Map

StuckSucks - 3-6-2015 at 04:46 PM

Click to embiggen - each of the large versions are ~700k.








Embiggen?

AKgringo - 3-6-2015 at 05:23 PM

I'll buy that, if it isn't a word, it should be!

[Edited on 3-7-2015 by AKgringo]

David K - 3-6-2015 at 06:07 PM

Way cool...

Mexicala?

StuckSucks - 3-6-2015 at 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Mexicala?


I missed that - I think it's south of Calexica.

BooJumMan - 3-6-2015 at 09:25 PM

Whered you get this? very cool

Bwana_John - 3-7-2015 at 08:41 AM

"Water surface 253 feet below mean sea level, depth 34 feet"

-253 + -34= -287

Depth of Death Valley, -282 feet below sea level.

That makes the Salton Sink the lowest place in N. America before flooding(?)

David K - 3-7-2015 at 08:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bwana_John  
"Water surface 253 feet below mean sea level, depth 34 feet"

-253 + -34= -287

Depth of Death Valley, -282 feet below sea level.

That makes the Salton Sink the lowest place in N. America before flooding(?)


Corrected measurements? from Wiki:

The Salton Sea is a shallow, saline, endorheic rift lake located directly on the San Andreas Fault, predominantly in California's Imperial and Coachella valleys.

The lake occupies the lowest elevations of the Salton Sink in the Colorado Desert of Imperial and Riverside counties in Southern California. Its surface is 234.0 ft (71.3 m) below sea level. The deepest point of the sea is 5 ft (1.5 m) higher than the lowest point of Death Valley.

Endorheic?

AKgringo - 3-7-2015 at 09:05 AM

What is 'Endorheic'? At least with 'Embiggen', everyone knew what Stuck meant!

wow

mexicali-kid - 3-7-2015 at 09:16 AM

So cool, it shows Sunset Spring. Been looking for years. Now I see it is at elevation -43. That puts it in the irrigated area just North East of Holtville.

StuckSucks - 3-7-2015 at 09:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BooJumMan  
Whered you get this? very cool


I'll share the link on Monday (don't have it where I am now). One of the California universities has an archive collection of California topo maps.

Barry A. - 3-7-2015 at 10:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Quote: Originally posted by BooJumMan  
Whered you get this? very cool


I'll share the link on Monday (don't have it where I am now). One of the California universities has an archive collection of California topo maps.


Back in the '60's when I attended San Diego State College (now University), the Geography Dept. had a wonderful collection of Baja CA topo maps, as well as many other old maps of Baja CA. I assume they still do. They were kept in the Cartography Lab.....

Barry

StuckSucks - 3-7-2015 at 02:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Back in the '60's when I attended San Diego State College (now University), the Geography Dept. had a wonderful collection of Baja CA topo maps, as well as many other old maps of Baja CA.


Unfortunately the collection I ran into is only California, but lots of cool old stuff, e.g., Owens Valley when there was a river and lakes there.

StuckSucks - 3-9-2015 at 11:02 AM

These California topos are from Chico State. In alphabetical order, starting with A:

http://archives.csuchico.edu/cdm/search/collection/coll28/or...

David K - 3-9-2015 at 01:22 PM

What a treasure those are!

mulegemichael - 3-9-2015 at 02:49 PM

i'm reading a great nonfiction right now that deals with the formation and non-development of the salton sea...it's called The Emerald Mile....fascinating!!!!

daveB - 3-9-2015 at 07:09 PM

Very interesting. We find ourselves looking out over the Salton Sea while always spending some of each winter at the Fountain Of Youth. Bombay Beach is ten miles away by road, and our GPS says we are located at 6 feet above sea level while others have said the horseshoe pitches, a couple of streets below us, are at sea level. The hot springs, warming large amounts of fresh water through heat exchangers, make the rv resort what it is, with all the amenities available acting quite like icing on a big cake. We love the surrounding area as well, with its mud pots (once used to collect carbon dioxide to make dry ice) the volcanic field of obsidian, the expansive area open for off road travel, the nearby oasis, the Bradshaw Trail and canyons. A bit father afield is the Sony Bono Wildlife Bird viewing area with lots of snow geese and Sandhill cranes. Thanks for posting! The railway, by the way, has just twinned its track through the area, and nice to see where the original track was at one time.

daveB - 3-9-2015 at 07:14 PM

A quick view of the Salton Sea, yields one almost strange aspect: one can never see a boat plying its waters!

David K - 3-10-2015 at 08:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by daveB  
A quick view of the Salton Sea, yields one almost strange aspect: one can never see a boat plying its waters!


Not any more... it is a dead sea... but there are still a lot of sea birds on it. Back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's it was booming! There was a boat race called the Salton Sea 500 (my dad raced it) and the shore line was filled with campers and the motels were booked.

How sad to go there now and see a ghost town. The shore line has dropped leaving the few occupied homes on dried out marinas.

daveB - 3-10-2015 at 09:24 AM

Yes, David, we're missing a long period of history as we drive by or stay at a hot springs resort. Easy to tell there were better times if visiting a place like Bombay Beach (great burgers at the Legion!) but exactly what went on? Thanks for filling in just a bit of it, as you remember the boat racing.

AKgringo - 3-10-2015 at 09:51 AM

Wasn't there an annual "Salton Sea Marlin Tournament'?
No actual marlin were harmed of course, but it was a reason to gather there. Sort of like the pig races in Mulege, or ground hog day some places!

StuckSucks - 3-10-2015 at 10:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Embiggen I'll buy that, if it isn't a word, it should be!


Embiggen is a perfectly cromulent word.

To make bigger, to make larger, to make size increase.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

Plagues & Pleasures on the Salton Sea

StuckSucks - 3-10-2015 at 10:46 AM

For anyone interested in the history and how-comes of the Salton Sea, this is an excellent documentary narrated by John Waters. You'll learn the history of the sink, and how anything that enters the sea, stays in the sea. You also get to see lots of colorful locals. Edutainment, about an hour long.

Plagues & Pleasures on the Salton Sea | KQED Truly CA

Cromulent?

AKgringo - 3-10-2015 at 11:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Embiggen I'll buy that, if it isn't a word, it should be!


Embiggen is a perfectly cromulent word.

To make bigger, to make larger, to make size increase.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."


Whoa...that got me digging for a reference! First of all, what is cromulent, and who the hell is he quoting?
Research indicates that it is the town motto of Springfield.
Did I get it right? Do I win anything?

David K - 3-10-2015 at 04:51 PM

Did you see the new mud pots video? They were underwater until the dropping sea level exposed them, by mullet island... Near Minute 4 in the video...