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Baja Cactus station in El Rosario

thebajarunner - 3-30-2015 at 08:00 PM

Having complained for years about the really bad condition of the banos at the station I am thrilled to report great success by Antonio.
Man, you outdid yourself!
The new tiled bathrooms are pristine, functional and a great addition to your already honorable place of biz.
I even wandered, much by accident of course, into the Dama side and except for the lack of a good hanging urinal it was just as elegant and functional as the Caballero side.
Good job amigo!!
I will rest my complaint department on this note.

Marc - 3-31-2015 at 06:41 AM

Just like Mexico...they forget the urinal:lol::lol::lol:

BajaBlanca - 3-31-2015 at 07:52 AM

those bathrooms really are nice and clean!

mtgoat666 - 3-31-2015 at 09:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Having complained for years about the really bad condition of the banos at the station I am thrilled to report great success by Antonio.
Man, you outdid yourself!
The new tiled bathrooms are pristine, functional and a great addition to your already honorable place of biz.
I even wandered, much by accident of course, into the Dama side and except for the lack of a good hanging urinal it was just as elegant and functional as the Caballero side.
Good job amigo!!
I will rest my complaint department on this note.


more importantly, was there any toilet paper in the stall? paper towels at the sink?

...and, the real problem still exists: 8 out of 10 guys who pee in stalls dont lift the toilet seat. do 8 out of 10 guys like sitting on seats that are covered in pee?

dtbushpilot - 3-31-2015 at 09:25 AM

Why are you here goat?

DENNIS - 3-31-2015 at 10:33 AM



He's here to fill our desperate need for a urine expert. He's earning top honors today.

woody with a view - 3-31-2015 at 11:20 AM

goat, you think Mexican toilets are bad? try a construction site porta potty sometime. guys actually squat on the toilet seat and aim as best they can. seriously!

Udo - 3-31-2015 at 11:30 AM

He is replacing DENNIS!


Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Why are you here goat?

mtgoat666 - 3-31-2015 at 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
goat, you think Mexican toilets are bad? try a construction site porta potty sometime. guys actually squat on the toilet seat and aim as best they can. seriously!


oh, i know!

men are pigs! (many women are too!)

mtgoat666 - 3-31-2015 at 11:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Why are you here goat?


why don't you lift the seat?

tripledigitken - 3-31-2015 at 11:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Why are you here goat?


why don't you lift the seat?


Why don't you try peeing standing up?

norte - 3-31-2015 at 11:50 AM

Great Baja regulars. Only the news here! arguing over pee. where is the king. I am sure he has an expert opinion.

Did I start this thread??

thebajarunner - 3-31-2015 at 11:55 AM

I am dismayed to even have my name attached.
What a sad trail this has taken from what was supposed to be a positive boost to a good fellow Nomad.

msteve1014 - 3-31-2015 at 12:03 PM

No good deed goes unpunished, around here anyway.:(

motoged - 3-31-2015 at 12:03 PM

There will be a map provided soon....to help navigate to the TP, sink, and pooper.....

As for goats.....: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOS5flzXjJE

tripledigitken - 3-31-2015 at 12:07 PM

The memory of that video will no doubt reduce my intake of chiva birria, thanks ged!

;)

wilderone - 3-31-2015 at 12:50 PM

"toilet paper in the stall? paper towels at the sink?"
Be prepared - bring your own, as well as small bar of soap. Any experienced traveler brings their own. You can even buy paper toilet seat covers - 10 pak for $2.95.


mtgoat666 - 3-31-2015 at 01:37 PM

Directions:



[Edited on 3-31-2015 by mtgoat666]

mtgoat666 - 3-31-2015 at 01:40 PM

Directive:



[Edited on 3-31-2015 by mtgoat666]

BeemerDan - 3-31-2015 at 02:52 PM

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Doug- Please start a Junior High section

thebajarunner - 3-31-2015 at 04:11 PM

Shame on you all
You should have left this level about the seventh grade.

Bajahowodd - 3-31-2015 at 04:58 PM

A huge percentage of the world is accustomed to squat toilets. From Eastern Europe on. In many tourist friendly cities such as Istanbul, you may find bathrooms with both the porcelain throne with a squat toilet in the stall adjacent. It's a cultural thing.

My beef with bathrooms in Baja is where I find toilets that are inoperable. For years we have encountered the worst situation in the ejido run Pemex at Colonet. Disgusting.

Most of the newer Pemex stations have mini marts and make more profit from inside than outside. By and large, they have very clean, well-equiped bathrooms.

Bajaboy - 3-31-2015 at 07:59 PM

Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.

woody with a view - 3-31-2015 at 08:09 PM

NICE!

Bob H - 3-31-2015 at 08:34 PM

Depending on how old you are, aiming can be a waste of time.... :o:P

bajabuddha - 3-31-2015 at 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Shame on you all
You should have left this level about the seventh grade.


BR, BN is like a Peter Paul Almond Cluster;

........"Don't fight it, surrender...... "

Look on the bright side, no quasi-political battles.

Yet. :lol:

dtbushpilot - 3-31-2015 at 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.


It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?

Bajaboy - 3-31-2015 at 09:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.


It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?


My source tells me the widening of the road by three meters caused all plans/permits to be resubmitted/reapproved. Thus, construction should commence in three months. We'll see what happens:light:

motoged - 3-31-2015 at 10:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
.....
It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?


Have some peanuts while you wait...


David K - 4-1-2015 at 12:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.


It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?


The bathrooms were part of the Pemex station, and the stiff regulations and lack of flexibility for local conditions were the reason for the delays. Antonio does everything by-the-book and legit.

The restaurant (last I heard it would be a taco stand, with 'parador' services, like when the highway opened) will not be in the Pemex portion of Antonio's business... Unless things have changed...

dtbushpilot - 4-1-2015 at 07:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.


It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?


The bathrooms were part of the Pemex station, and the stiff regulations and lack of flexibility for local conditions were the reason for the delays. Antonio does everything by-the-book and legit.

The restaurant (last I heard it would be a taco stand, with 'parador' services, like when the highway opened) will not be in the Pemex portion of Antonio's business... Unless things have changed...


I call total BS on that explanation DK. I don't doubt for a minute that Antonio is a good guy and I appreciate what he has done with the ambulance service for the area. The bathrooms at the ER Pemex were among the worse in Baja before the remodel, fixing them up was essential if they intended to keep up with the newer stations in the region. A project of that magnitude should have taken no more than a week at most if you had any construction experience or cared about the needs of your customers. The notion that "regulations" held up the project is a feeble attempt at explaining away pi$$ poor planning and lack of interest in the needs of your customers(IMO).

I already know what you are going to say: "there is a bathroom at the Baja Cactus that the customers can use". This is true, I actually tried it once (did you?). After walking a considerable distance over to the motel I was greeted by several others waiting in the small lobby of the motel to use a small one hole bathroom with a door opening to the lobby, not very pleasant for bathroom users or motel customers/employees.

I have and will continue to stop by from time to time and drop off a donation for the ambulance service but don't buy gas there any more, the Los Pinos station is much nicer and only 30 miles up the road. I wish Antonio success in his restaurant venture.


Bajaboy - 4-1-2015 at 07:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Just heard from a reliable source that Antonio is going to begin work on a restaurant in three months or so. Looking forward to more options.


It took a year to remodel 2 small bathrooms, how long will it take to build a restaurant?


The bathrooms were part of the Pemex station, and the stiff regulations and lack of flexibility for local conditions were the reason for the delays. Antonio does everything by-the-book and legit.

The restaurant (last I heard it would be a taco stand, with 'parador' services, like when the highway opened) will not be in the Pemex portion of Antonio's business... Unless things have changed...


Things have changed...:light:

David K - 4-1-2015 at 07:47 AM

Dave, Antonio is a very hard working and honest man. I have no reason not to believe him. Because I am retelling it in simple language may not do justice to the actual bureaucratic nightmare he went through. It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do). As I recall, it had to do with Antonio wanting more stalls for the woman's side and presented the reasons why (ridiculous that he needed to). The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City.

thebajarunner - 4-1-2015 at 08:33 AM

Antonio told me basically what DK is saying. I have no reason to not believe Antonio

As to buying gas from the very charitable and community minded Rodriguez boys at Los Pinos.....

all I can say is "God bless you" cuz I sure cannot....

(if you think the old Baja Cactus rest rooms were bad, why don't you make a little side trip down and visit some of the Los Pinos camps- dare you!!!)

Skipjack Joe - 4-1-2015 at 08:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob H  


Depending on how old you are, aiming can be a waste of time.... :o:P



And the best post goes to .......

:lol::lol::lol:

willardguy - 4-1-2015 at 08:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Antonio told me basically what DK is saying. I have no reason to not believe Antonio

As to buying gas from the very charitable and community minded Rodriguez boys at Los Pinos.....

all I can say is "God bless you" cuz I sure cannot....

(if you think the old Baja Cactus rest rooms were bad, why don't you make a little side trip down and visit some of the Los Pinos camps- dare you!!!)


yeah! and don't ever buy ANYTHING at Don Rafa's rancho grande store in gonzaga bay OR stay at Don Rafa's rancho grande palapa's OR his hotel in cativina or san quintin AND don't ever eat a hamburger with a Don Rafa tomato on it! YOU'LL SHOW HIM! :rolleyes:

rts551 - 4-1-2015 at 08:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Antonio told me basically what DK is saying. I have no reason to not believe Antonio

As to buying gas from the very charitable and community minded Rodriguez boys at Los Pinos.....

all I can say is "God bless you" cuz I sure cannot....

(if you think the old Baja Cactus rest rooms were bad, why don't you make a little side trip down and visit some of the Los Pinos camps- dare you!!!)


Wasn't going to enter the bathroom fray, but I have toured the Los Pinos facilities. You should to. There are no camps. I did go into a portapottie in the field and it was clean with a wash station outside. Went into the facilities in the packing house and they were way better that Antonio's old bathrooms (have not seen the new pee holes). I suspect your comment was more directed at them because of the info (and misinfo) directed at them since the strike. Buy the way, ever visited the San Quintin museum funded and run by the Rodriquez family.

oxxo - 4-1-2015 at 09:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
(here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do).


:no: And here is the gratuitous political comment. It didn't take long! Can't help yourself, can you?

Pompano - 4-1-2015 at 09:22 AM

Now it's bathroom revues...Good grief, as if religion and politics weren't enough?

Here's a photo collage in post from 3 years ago about the nice new construction at Baja Cactus Pemex. And I always hit what I aim at...





We are spoiled these days. Bathrooms have changed a little from back in the day on the Baja Road. Then you just found a way...and didn't make a big deal out of it.






[Edited on 4-1-2015 by Pompano]

Tioloco - 4-1-2015 at 09:26 AM

Worrying about restrooms in Mexico this much makes me think life must be pretty good. If restrooms are this big of a deal, that is.

mtgoat666 - 4-1-2015 at 09:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do).
...
The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City.


DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!

So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist organization?

If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?

DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the entire population.

And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things in life than money, eh?


motoged - 4-1-2015 at 09:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
.....getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do). .....The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City.


Thank you , David, for pointing out the evils of regulations imposed by socialistic dictators. Up until now, I did not realize that mopping a floor and providing toilet paper was so closely governed by the chilangos.....commie ones at that. :o

I can now better understand why you are so incensed by such intrusiveness into your life.

There is do doubt Antonio is a great guy. That is not the issue (presented in simple language so you won't have to go through the nightmare of understanding my point).


David K - 4-1-2015 at 04:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do).
...
The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City.


DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!

So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist organization?

If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?

DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the entire population.

And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things in life than money, eh?


I am always HAPPY to help!
Subway is NOT owned by the government (yet).
Socialism is a government that controls business in such a way that the business owner cannot make the normal operating decisions without permission of the bureaucrats.

The socialist ideas are persistent because there will always be people who are lazy or unmotivated to apply their skills. This is specially true when the government so easily and quickly gives them money for not producing... in the belief that once on the program it is a guaranteed vote at the next election.

Brain washing the population that business and corporations are evil is conditioning the future to poverty as well.

Would you change a system that has only a few people in poverty for one where ALL people are equally poor. The few poor in America are richer than most of the world's population, by-the-way. Have you been to other countries... places like Mexico? Where the average income American can vacation a couple weeks a year in a place where he is considered 'rich' because is is able to do so compared to many or most in Mexico... and Mexico is 'rich' when compared to Guatemala, etc.!

rts551 - 4-1-2015 at 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It had nothing to do with the work, but getting the approval from Mexico City (here is an example of socialism dictating from thousands of miles away what a businessman can do).
...
The Pemex business is a franchise that is strictly controlled by Mexico City.


DK: these are some topics for your next baja campfire debate! Happy spring break everyone!

So Pemex retail stations are franchises,... if Subway corporation tells a franchisee in Oceanside CA how to run their business, is Subway a socialist organization?

If socialism is so bad, how come the ideas are so persistent? And if capitalism is so good, why do so many people in free market economies live in poverty? Has there ever been a free market capitalist economy without many people living in poverty?

DK: you assign magical properties to capitalist, free market small-government dream world, but you got no proof such a world has ever worked for the entire population.

And who says that economic prosperity is the most important thing in life for an individual or society?????? Perhaps there are more important things in life than money, eh?


I am always HAPPY to help!
Subway is NOT owned by the government (yet).
Socialism is a government that controls business in such a way that the business owner cannot make the normal operating decisions without permission of the bureaucrats.

The socialist ideas are persistent because there will always be people who are lazy or unmotivated to apply their skills. This is specially true when the government so easily and quickly gives them money for not producing... in the belief that once on the program it is a guaranteed vote at the next election.

Brain washing the population that business and corporations are evil is conditioning the future to poverty as well.

Would you change a system that has only a few people in poverty for one where ALL people are equally poor. The few poor in America are richer than most of the world's population, by-the-way. Have you been to other countries... places like Mexico? Where the average income American can vacation a couple weeks a year in a place where he is considered 'rich' because is is able to do so compared to many or most in Mexico... and Mexico is 'rich' when compared to Guatemala, etc.!



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/17/r...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-are-...


Bajahowodd - 4-1-2015 at 04:47 PM

Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't?

chuckie - 4-1-2015 at 04:48 PM

YES

David K - 4-1-2015 at 04:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't?


That is exactly why I said Taco Stand in a Parador style complex. You should check with BajaBoy, who says things have changed. It wasn't to do with her passing, but as long as there was a restaurant next door.

bajabuddha - 4-1-2015 at 05:23 PM

Motoged gets the Master-Baiter award of the year.

motoged - 4-1-2015 at 06:50 PM

I am not worthy....I am not worthy :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEn3a4TIUw

[Edited on 4-2-2015 by motoged]

willardguy - 4-1-2015 at 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
I am not worthy....I am not worthy :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-***bvoFFy0


doesn't work on my box?

Marc - 4-1-2015 at 07:04 PM

Has anyone on this board been to India?? Or for that matter; an Indian restaurant...anywhere? :barf::barf::barf:

[Edited on 4-2-2015 by Marc]

ncampion - 4-1-2015 at 07:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by oxxo  


:no: And here is the gratuitous political comment. It didn't take long! Can't help yourself, can you?



Always fun to watch the fish rise to the bait.

motoged - 4-1-2015 at 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
I am not worthy....I am not worthy :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-***bvoFFy0


doesn't work on my box?



I fixed it......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEn3a4TIUw

Bajaboy - 4-1-2015 at 07:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Aside from all the silly Fox News rants that emanate from DK, my understanding is that years ago, Antonio had planned a restaurant, but out of respect for his neighbor Dona Anita, he would not go forward on the project until her passing. Does he know something that we don't?


That is exactly why I said Taco Stand in a Parador style complex. You should check with BajaBoy, who says things have changed. It wasn't to do with her passing, but as long as there was a restaurant next door.


I had a nice conversation with Antonio last night. It's not my story to share, though. I will let Anotonio share his news when he is ready.

David, I'm guessing Mexico's government is controlled by big business just like the good ol' US of A. :light: