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Hitler and his bunkers - may we NEVER forget

BajaBlanca - 6-18-2015 at 12:44 PM

Because Poland belonged to Germany, Hitler left his mark all around the northeast corner of Poland, right where we are at. Today, we went to visit one of the main headquarters.....apparently Hitler and Mussolini along with others walked where we walked today.

Here is a short version and I will post the link to the almost 100 photos for those who have A LOT of time on their hands. I took extensive pics as I am pretty sure none of you will ever experience this part of history. And as much as I hate Hitler, I think it is imperative that we remember this terrible time in our world:




THE ENTRANCE:















THIS WAS IN A BOOK THEY HAD -SHOWS HOW CLOSE WEGORZEWO IS TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER:











INFO ABOUT THIS LOCATION CALLED MAMERKI:























THE PINK CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE IS WHERE WE ARE NOW AT MAMERKI AND AT THE TIME IT WAS GERMANY....POOR POLAND SPENT 400 YEARS IN THE HANDS OF OTHER COUNTRIES:










SOME HISTORY:































THE SECRET SUBMARINE HITLER THEORETICALLY BUILT:

VERY BIZARRE BUT THIS NEXT PORTION OF THE MUSEUM IS IN COMPLETE DARKNESS. WE HAD TO USE A FLASH AND IT WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF DIFFICULT TO WALK ....DON'T LET THE PICS TRICK YOU - I COULD not SEE LES WHEN I TOOK THE SHOT:



















MEMORABILIA FROM THAT TIME:

















HEADING INTO ANOTHER BUNKER:



















AGAIN -IT WAS ALMOST PITCH BLACK - IF YOU ARE CLAUSTROPHOBIC YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO GO DOWN:










I'M SHORT AT 5' AND I HAD TO BEND OVER!











THIS IS HOW THE BUNKERS WERE HIDDEN:
















WELL -THAT IS A TASTE OF WHAT WE SAW TODAY. THERE ARE MORE BUNKERS THERE AND WE WILL SEE THOSE NEXT MONTH WHEN OUR BRITISH FRIENDS WILL BE OVER FOR A VISIT.

HERE IS THE WHOLE ALBUM ON PHOTOBUCKET IF YOU HAVE LOADS OF TIME AND LIKE HISTORY:




http://s296.photobucket.com/user/bheilheil/library/MAMERKI?s...






























ehall - 6-18-2015 at 01:04 PM

Very interesting reading. Thanks for taking the time to post. You are right, most of us will never see that part of the world.

Udo - 6-18-2015 at 02:24 PM

Thanks for the history lesson, Blanca.

Nice photos.

Pompano - 6-18-2015 at 04:00 PM

Thanks Blanca, for this stark reminder of one of the darkest periods in human history.

I hope the history of the Holocaust is still being taught in it's entirety in our schools... in memory of the 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated.

It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect: "Get it all on record now — get the films — get the witnesses — because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.



[Edited on 6-18-2015 by Pompano]

TMW - 6-18-2015 at 04:50 PM

Great stuff , I love it. Thanks

vandenberg - 6-18-2015 at 05:45 PM

Some misinformation about the use of V2's against targets in France, Belgium and Holland.
I was a citizen, although a small one, of The Hague, Holland and around us were several launch sites for V1 and V2s. All were aimed at England, mainly London, but none were ever used against European mainland countries. Some were within the city limits and I remember one time when a V2 was launched, you could hear by the sound that there was something wrong and when the rocket rose above the roof tops, it started wobbling , made an about face and came down in the city, obliterating several city blocks
Also watched as misinformation made the RAF make a raid in my city on a supposedly German head quarters and bombed a large part of my city for an apparent wrong reason. Such are facts of war, like we see now in large parts of our world. I was just a child, but the memories will stay with me forever. The 2 mentioned were just a few of many.

[Edited on 6-20-2015 by vandenberg]

Pompano - 6-18-2015 at 07:24 PM

Hope you don't think this is too much of a hijack, Blanca, but it's somewhat relevant. This is very coincidental account of two men involved in the WWII bombing of Berlin by US bombers based in England.


One morning at my casa in Coyote Bay a few friends were having morning coffee and discussing events. Among these amigos were 2 men who were each involved in WWII in Germany. They had never met until that morning.



One was Bill, an older retired Republic Airline pilot who had flown a B-17 in long range bomber raids against Berlin and other German cities between 1943 and 1945. These were the planes known as the Flying Fortress and were heavily armed. Bill's job was to fly the plane that dropped bombs on Berlin's industrial complexes in order to shorten the war. He flew many missions and survived the extremely high mortality rate suffered by these bomber squadrons. Bill had a hilltop home near Posada.


Across the table and sharing coffee and donuts was another amigo named Peter, a few years younger, a German by birth, who had immigrated to the US, (Half Moon Bay) long after the war, and later found a place in Baja. Peter's family was killed in a raid and he had grown up in war-time Berlin as a child of the streets. He said he ate whatever he could to keep alive...some not so nice items. He remembered the bombings clearly and had enough street smarts to survive the war, the occupation, and went on to become a successful architect.

I introduced Bill and Peter that morning. Quite a reunion, eh? I can imagine young Peter dodging a bomb dropped by Bill's plane. It's a small world indeed...and I'm very glad they both survived to enjoy Baja.

[Edited on 6-19-2015 by Pompano]

DianaT - 6-18-2015 at 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg  
Some misinformation about the use of V2's against targets in France, Belgium and Holland.
I was a citizen, although a small one, of The Hague, Holland and around us were several launch sites for V1 and V2s. Some were within the city limits and I remember one time when a V2 was launched, you could here by the sound that there was something wrong and when the rocket rose above the roof tops, it started wobbling , made an about face and came down in the city, obliterating several city blocks
Also watched as misinformation made the RAF make a raid in my city on a supposedly German head quarters and bombed a large part of my city for an apparent wrong reason. Such are facts of war, like we see now in large parts of our world. I was just a child, but the memories will stay with me forever. The 2 mentioned were just a few of many.


War is just messy and never clear cut. To simplify it, war sucks and the winners seldom want to admit any "errors". And the history will always be biased and never totally accurate.






BajaBlanca - 6-18-2015 at 10:29 PM

share away ALL...thanks for sharing thoughts and stories and facts!