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Not for Shell Island Haters

hayb - 6-23-2015 at 09:48 PM

We did our annual Shell Island trip 6-12 to 6/18. Air temperature high of 95 and low of 69. Water temperature 78-80 degrees. It was very humid, made nights very damp and sticky. One day of moderate winds, lowered our canopies and used trucks as wind shield. Had a wonderful week of sun, sand, warm water, beers, margaritas, bloody mary and ate too much food. Looking forward to next years return.

We crossed Mexicali border around 9 am. Needed to get our tourist permits stamped. After crossing border we were not able to find any open parking spots. The immigration guys allowed us to double park right in front of their office (all three big trucks). They scanned and stamped all of our passports. All adults had to be present for this process but kids did not need to. Parents were able to sign kids permits for them. This process took about 30 minutes to complete. As usual (like every other year) military checkpoint north of San Felipe, never asked for tourist permits.

No one got stuck getting on to the Shell Island this year. My HEAVY RAM 2500 Diesel fully loaded with 7 day of camping stuff floated on soft sand just fine at 17 psi.









































Few video links






[Edited on 6-27-2015 by hayb]

[Edited on 6-30-2015 by hayb]

chuckie - 6-24-2015 at 03:20 AM

Looks like goodtimes....Thanks!

ehall - 6-24-2015 at 04:54 AM

Looks fun. Nice stress free vacation.

woody with a view - 6-24-2015 at 06:24 AM

you golf swing ain't 1/2 bad!

deanfootlong - 6-24-2015 at 07:12 AM

nice report. thanks for posting the pics!

We were there just a few weeks before you guys and had a dead whale carcass wash up on shore. It was interesting. Was it there when you guys were there by chance?

Also, did you catch anything from shore that's worth mentioning?


hayb

bajaguy - 6-24-2015 at 07:57 AM

Great looking Yellow Lab......how old???....M or F??

David K - 6-24-2015 at 08:02 AM

Very nice indeed! We hope to make it out there the 4th of July or later in July on our vacation. Did you access the beach next to the bridge (1984 road) or over by the fishing camp on the original road? Happy Times!

BajaRat - 6-24-2015 at 08:21 AM

That's quite the camp, anyone else out there or did you have it all to yourselves, fish ?
Thanks for the pics n report :cool:

deanfootlong - 6-24-2015 at 08:27 AM

david, you're crazy. the 4th of july.... HOT. How can you sleep when its over 80 degrees at night!?

David K - 6-24-2015 at 08:45 AM

That is our favorite time of year for Baja... June-Sept., May and October are nice, but the water isn't as warm as we like.

Hot is healthy, joints don't hurt, the sea is bathtub warm, and you can float in it all day and all night... it is just as warm at night.

Usually there are no wind issues in the summer (between the chubascos). The exception was 4th of July 2011, when the wind came up after sundown and destroyed our camp... and as we learned later, sank the Erik killing those poor fishermen near Gonzaga Bay.

hayb - 6-24-2015 at 09:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by deanfootlong  
nice report. thanks for posting the pics!

We were there just a few weeks before you guys and had a dead whale carcass wash up on shore. It was interesting. Was it there when you guys were there by chance?

Also, did you catch anything from shore that's worth mentioning?



Funny you'd mention about whale. The first day we noticed bit of stench but not bad at all. Our kids found several large whale ribs and vertebrates.

Fish wise usual suspects trigger fish, spotted bay bass, corbina, catfish, porgy and sting rays. After several years of trying to eat the plentiful clams, meaning tough and chewy when cooked. This year we tried shelling them and batter frying them...Yum Yum.

hayb - 6-24-2015 at 09:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Very nice indeed! We hope to make it out there the 4th of July or later in July on our vacation. Did you access the beach next to the bridge (1984 road) or over by the fishing camp on the original road? Happy Times!


We did used the beach access by the bridge, it was bone dry. Last two days were 18 ft tides and getting off the Island was not an issue. By the way we registered 119 F at the border crossing at 3:30 pm. Thanks for all the info you provided for our trip.

hayb - 6-24-2015 at 09:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Great looking Yellow Lab......how old???....M or F??


That large mutt is 3 1/2 yr old. Mix of golden retriever, yellow lab, German short hair and Australian sheep dog. I agree he does look like a yellow lab. He weights whopping 70 lbs. Very good with our 6 and 8 yr old kids.

hayb - 6-24-2015 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat  
That's quite the camp, anyone else out there or did you have it all to yourselves, fish ?
Thanks for the pics n report :cool:


We had the whole beach to ourselves. Very cool!

David K - 6-24-2015 at 10:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by hayb  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Very nice indeed! We hope to make it out there the 4th of July or later in July on our vacation. Did you access the beach next to the bridge (1984 road) or over by the fishing camp on the original road? Happy Times!


We did used the beach access by the bridge, it was bone dry. Last two days were 18 ft tides and getting off the Island was not an issue. By the way we registered 119 F at the border crossing at 3:30 pm. Thanks for all the info you provided for our trip.


119 at Mexicali, but a perfect 95 on the island, great!

I take it there was no sign of the new marina and golf course being built on the salt flats between the access road and Bahia Santa Maria? LOL

You are welcome, sharing a great place in Baja with my Nomad amigos (with four wheel drive) is my pleasure.

deanfootlong - 6-24-2015 at 10:24 AM

Heres the whale.

Friend of mine is poking at its head with a shell.



norte - 6-24-2015 at 04:52 PM

looks like a pretty place. Anyone ever tell you guys its unlawful to drive on the beach. But then I guess most of Mexico (and its Gringo guests) ignores the law.

David K - 6-24-2015 at 05:31 PM

It's an island, not a beach... lol. A joke, but not good enough for you?

Mexican fishermen also drive it to launch boats and set nets, so it isn't just a gringo deal. Does that make any difference?

Driving on the beach didn't kill that whale. Do you care? Would you see the whale or the beach if we didn't drive on sand to get there?

Thank goodness people like hayb and deanfootlong continue to share so we all can see more of Baja, despite the potential harassment by the holy-than-thou Nomads.

Speaking of laws, do you obey the 80 KPH speed limit on miles of endless deserted highway?

Relax, live, share, peace, love, and fish tacos!

norte - 6-24-2015 at 05:57 PM

I knew I could rely on you to recommend people break the law.

viabaja - 6-24-2015 at 06:29 PM

Dave, you guys are hard core! The 4th can go either way. When we had the house in Percebu, beginning of June was checkout until early Oct. The heat can be bad, but combined with the high humidity, unbearable at night. Unless you ran a/c off a gen, you did not sleep. Went down one August, stayed 1 day and came back! Even the locals leave for 3-4 weeks (Ensenada) during late July and August.

Enjoy my friend and post pix!

basautter - 6-24-2015 at 07:24 PM

Thanks for sharing! One of my favorite places :bounce:

hayb - 6-25-2015 at 10:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by norte  
looks like a pretty place. Anyone ever tell you guys its unlawful to drive on the beach. But then I guess most of Mexico (and its Gringo guests) ignores the law.


Do these guys look like Gringo’s?

With all due respect. You are adding nothing but negative energy to this post. Please find a better way to spend your time. Better yet, just in case you haven’t read the subject line “Not for Shell Island Haters”, find a different post. I am sure you follow and abide by all the laws in Mexico when you are in Baja. But we’ll never know.

bezzell - 6-25-2015 at 08:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by hayb  

With all due respect. You are adding nothing but negative energy to this post.


just ignore grumpy gramps. A proctologist could work miracles, but whatcha gonna do?

norte - 6-26-2015 at 07:11 AM

Ignoring the law show no respect. Respect for the country you are in and its people. And then there are others, well just shows what happens when in-breeding occurs.

norte - 6-26-2015 at 10:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Ignoring the law show no respect. Respect for the country you are in and its people. And then there are others, well just shows what happens when in-breeding occurs.


Maybe.

Ignoring the law is entirely cultural..... maybe they are doing it out of respect for the culture and just trying to fit in estilo Mexicano.

Well, a sure way to get someone to listen to you is to put them down.

Peace



Interesting concept. and , no they still don't listen, but I get your point.

hayb - 6-27-2015 at 07:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  


So, I guess the moral of the story is, if you do drive on the beach, do it slow, don't be an ass, pick up yours and somebody else's trash and enjoy it while you can.....


Peace


Soulpatch, Very nice choice of words and totally agree with what you wrote. My group especially agree with this paragraph. Thanks for your wisdom.

WideAngleWandering - 2-26-2016 at 10:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by norte  
I knew I could rely on you to recommend people break the law.


I kinda feel like breaking the law this weekend. I've driven up and down that highway a few times but I've never noticed the turnoff. I've read it's at km 26? Is it marked in any way? My odometer is off on my truck so I can get close by the odo but not spot-on.

Apologies for the thread resurrection.

motoged - 2-26-2016 at 11:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
It's an island, not a beach... lol. A joke, but not good enough for you?

Mexican fishermen also drive it to launch boats and set nets, so it isn't just a gringo deal. Does that make any difference?

Driving on the beach didn't kill that whale. Do you care? Would you see the whale or the beach if we didn't drive on sand to get there?

Thank goodness people like hayb and deanfootlong continue to share so we all can see more of Baja, despite the potential harassment by the holy-than-thou Nomads.

Speaking of laws, do you obey the 80 KPH speed limit on miles of endless deserted highway?

Relax, live, share, peace, love, and fish tacos!



David,

Really???? :

"despite the potential harassment by the holy-than-thou Nomads."

I think pointing out laws is kinda like pointing out spelling errors...:light:

You are sounding like a "hater"...

WideAngleWandering - 2-26-2016 at 12:09 PM

Maybe I've resurrected a can of worms, but really am/was just hoping for a tip on that turn-off :) Peace love and tacos - good plan.

David K - 2-26-2016 at 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by WideAngleWandering  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  
I knew I could rely on you to recommend people break the law.


I kinda feel like breaking the law this weekend. I've driven up and down that highway a few times but I've never noticed the turnoff. I've read it's at km 26? Is it marked in any way? My odometer is off on my truck so I can get close by the odo but not spot-on.

Apologies for the thread resurrection.


Funny what bumping an 8 month old post can do?
Ged, I was responding to Norte on behalf of those here who share. Sorry, you missed that.

Wide, the access road is at the Km 26 marker... about 50 yards south of it. There are a pair of cinder block columns the road is between. You can also get there from Percebu or Bahia Santa Maria using the dune buggy road on the salt flats that parallels the coast. Avoid high lunar tides... it is an island, after all!

motoged - 2-26-2016 at 01:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Ged, I was responding to Norte on behalf of those here who share. Sorry, you missed that.


Meow meow, David,
Not sure what you mean by your snide comment...I share a lot on BN....jokes, a conscience, ride reports, thoughtful comments, and the occasional challenge to how some people think....


David K - 2-26-2016 at 02:29 PM

No Ged, I am saying that YOU are one of the great Nomads tgat share. Norte was slamming a Nomad who posted great photos because there was some beach driving seen. It is that kind of stuff that keeps people from sharing here.

This was old news, so just wondering why now and not last Spring or why you took it personally as it was to Norte. So, have a nice day amigo, no worries okay?

Lee - 2-26-2016 at 03:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by hayb  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  
looks like a pretty place. Anyone ever tell you guys its unlawful to drive on the beach. But then I guess most of Mexico (and its Gringo guests) ignores the law.


You are adding nothing but negative energy to this post. Please find a better way to spend your time. Better yet, just in case you haven’t read the subject line “Not for Shell Island Haters”, find a different post. I am sure you follow and abide by all the laws in Mexico when you are in Baja. But we’ll never know.


Who's spreading negative energy? This post started with negative energy: Not for Shell Island Haters? And you want to add a lecture too?

Fun photos. Thanks for posting. Seriously.

basautter - 2-26-2016 at 05:41 PM

Thanks for sharing! One of my favorite places! :bounce::bounce:

bajabuddha - 2-26-2016 at 10:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Ged, I was responding to Norte on behalf of those here who share. Sorry, you missed that.


Meow meow, David,
Not sure what you mean by your snide comment...I share a lot on BN....jokes, a conscience, ride reports, thoughtful comments, and the occasional challenge to how some people think....



Aw, Ged........ it's now obvious most of your Baja experience is on your Moto..... you don't fish much. Suckers ain't that good of a catch. You should spend more time going for a quarry that's up to your true tastes. You're going to be confused with a 'troller', which is in its own right a good form of fishing, but look towards better a better tasting plate-full. Current catch is easy to bait, but REALLY hard to swallow. :yes:

bacquito - 2-28-2016 at 06:57 PM

Great time, thanks for the photos

WideAngleWandering - 3-11-2016 at 09:17 AM

Found it, was totally accessible, and a lovely afternoon on an empty stretch. Details and pics to come in my own trip report.

BajaGringo - 3-11-2016 at 10:27 AM

Maybe I'm late to the party but who hates Shell Island? (and why?)

In fact, I'm not even sure exactly where it is other than on the SOC, based on the photos. Out of curiosity I tried a search via google maps and came up empty. Anybody have a good map link?

[Edited on 3-11-2016 by BajaGringo]

woody with a view - 3-11-2016 at 10:48 AM

DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.

David K - 3-11-2016 at 11:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaGringo  
Maybe I'm late to the party but who hates Shell Island? (and why?)

In fact, I'm not even sure exact;y where it is other than on the SOC, based on the photos. Out of curiosity I tried a search via google maps and came up empty. Anybody have a good map link?


Not sure if you are kidding? :lol:

"Shell Island" is my name for the barrier island sand beach and dunes between Percebú and Bahía Santa María the past 40 years. During the highest lunar tides, it is indeed surrounded by water and shown that way on maps dating back 30 years or more... so yes, it is an island! I first camped on it in 1978 after having walked across the lagoon tom it at low tide from Bahía Santa María for a couple years to collect shells.

An access road was installed from the new highway in 1985 at Km. 26, along with an elevated causeway across the mud flat and a concrete bridge to access the island/ beach even at high tide. That causeway has since eroded lower than the bridge, making it useless.



Pilot's Map showing the island, 1970s.



National Geographic map showing the island, 2008.



My first map showing an access road onto the island, 1978.

Modern Google Earth Maps:













The bridge at high tide (very much an island):



That is the former causeway across the mud flat and road out to Km. 26.




Oh, and the Moon Baja guidebooks recognize the name now, too... See Estero Percebú >>>



David K - 3-11-2016 at 11:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?

rts551 - 3-11-2016 at 02:03 PM

David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.

motoged - 3-11-2016 at 02:09 PM

Clearly some of us have our favourite Baja places....San Francisquito is certainly one of mine....and I don't care about the details (menu range/availability, gas availability, ambience of local caretakers/owners, etc).

It is not my only favoured spot, but it has a magic from my first visits that takes any tarnish off ongoing visits....

DK loves his beach....I love mine....

What's your fave beach spot?

David K - 3-11-2016 at 02:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.


Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake.

"Shell Island" is not the lagoon... It is the barrier that creates that lagoon and the "back bay" behind Bahía Santa María (which had no official name before 1969 when Aniceto Madueña named that lagoon/ bay after his daughter upon homesteading the area).

Yes, before 1967 it was easy to drive the beach to Percebú from Agua de Chale. After the hurricane, the back bay enlarged, the shrimp boat was washed in there during the hurricane and the south end of the island was cut off from the Santa María bay area.

mtgoat666 - 3-11-2016 at 02:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?


Given your use of vacation snapshots from there to support your conclusion that sea level has not changed, "fantasy island" is an appropriate geographic name.
A geographic name name is not official until DF decrees it so, what say INEGI?

David K - 3-11-2016 at 03:03 PM

You can call it anyhing you want. You ever been there?
(So, there is the second hater... if you weren't sure... lol)

Bob53 - 3-11-2016 at 03:20 PM

What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

willardguy - 3-11-2016 at 03:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
DK will be along soon. I don't get the hate thing either.


I think he means those who hate that we call it an island, but not sure why that bothers anyone?

Local gringos who began building vacation homes along the coast began calling it Shell Beach... often not driving any further north or south than where the road reaches the beach. The place is a serious shell collector paradise. Only if you drive to either end or try to drive on or off at highest tides do you realize this beach is indeed an island. I think my name is a more romantic one, describes it better, is unique (there already is a place in Baja known as Shell Beach, at Punta Chivato), and may predate the other gringo name by several years?


Given your use of vacation snapshots from there to support your conclusion that sea level has not changed, "fantasy island" is an appropriate geographic name.
A geographic name name is not official until DF decrees it so, what say INEGI?


:lol: I could give a ratzass either way, different strokes......but I like "dirt island"

rts551 - 3-11-2016 at 04:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
David is a little sensitive about Laguna Percebu. He claims to have discovered it, although it was a camping area for many well before he ever went there. As can be seen it the maps, it is a lagoon that was dramatically impacted by the hurricane Katerina in 1967.


Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake.

"Shell Island" is not the lagoon... It is the barrier that creates that lagoon and the "back bay" behind Bahía Santa María (which had no official name before 1969 when Aniceto Madueña named that lagoon/ bay after his daughter upon homesteading the area).

Yes, before 1967 it was easy to drive the beach to Percebú from Agua de Chale. After the hurricane, the back bay enlarged, the shrimp boat was washed in there during the hurricane and the south end of the island was cut off from the Santa María bay area.


Well aware of the area David. Family first camped there on the hill at a camp run by "Joe" in 1958 as a few other campers did. We were not lost.

Like I said. Sensitive... but that is OK. It is your favorite beach.

David K - 3-11-2016 at 04:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.

willardguy - 3-11-2016 at 04:53 PM

"Not a bit sensitive. We also camped at Percebú (well before) when it was a commercial fishing camp before 'Laguna' was added to the name and it became a tourist camp. That was on a return trip from Gonzaga Bay in 1965. We were seeking Agua de Chale and got on the old southern Percebú road by mistake."

very cool david that your father let you share the the driving and navigating task.....at 8 years old!
:lol:

Bob53 - 3-11-2016 at 05:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.

No pictures?

woody with a view - 3-11-2016 at 06:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.


broken....

David K - 3-11-2016 at 06:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Bob53  
What kind of shells to you find there besides clam shells?

Murex, olive, moon snail, etc.

No pictures?


I was at Timeout Café in Vista having lunch on my way to an irrigation job when I saw your question. I am not skilled to attach photos from my website to Nomad using a smartphone.

The beach, even if there were no shells would keep us coming back...









That it is an island is clear in this north facing photo... that is Percebú in the distance over on the Baja peninsula, across from the north end of the island.


Here are some Shell Island Shell Photos...































Low Tide! (can you see my truck for scale, above?)









Baja tough guy Ken Cooke even likes to pick up shells!




Campfire time is the best with Nomad amigos!






Percebú in the background as seen from the island.






Looking back towards the island as seen from the road heading to Hwy. 5 at Km. 26






Udo - 3-11-2016 at 06:59 PM

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

David K - 3-11-2016 at 11:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:


got shells? :light:

UnoMas - 3-12-2016 at 08:42 AM

DK I am surprised no has jumped you about collecting shells. After all it is illegal...:O:lol::lol::lol: The peanut gallery is off their game.:biggrin:

David K - 3-12-2016 at 09:44 AM

If they are removed from the beach, yes. We collect to photograph them and it is fun exercise... and to see what is different each time we go. The law I break is going more than 80 kph on the long, straight sections of highway in Baja... my bad!



[Edited on 3-12-2016 by David K]

woody with a view - 3-12-2016 at 10:34 AM

The fan coral is cool. I have one volleyball sized.