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jrbaja - 1-16-2005 at 11:29 AM

is up and "running. Lot's of plants and some are 15' tall already. I am wanting to expand the varieties and I am in a hurry.
So, here's the deal. I have 2 properties and a 200 year old house under renovation here in San Bartolo. I am also building a palapa/bedroom in the trees and bamboo grove.
I am going to sell memberships in Baja Bamboo for those wishing to help this community and get them building muy rapido.
What you get in return is, an awesome place to stay when you come down, all the fruit and vegetables you can pick and eat, all the fish you can catch, (Los Barriles is only a half hour away) and trips to my favorite unknown beach and Magdalena Bay to visit friends who know the area and channels there.
This is basically total immersion in the Mexican culture and for about $50.00 per week, you can eat some of the best empanadas and local ranch foods or head down to Los Barriles for the biggest steak you have ever seen excluding Texans.
Our trips away from San Bartolo are to do trading with the fishermen and mountain people which is a blast in itself and way less expensive than taking a tour.
You also get to rejuvenate your health with the produce, local foods, pure air and water as well as the relaxed and happy atmosphere that goes along with the Mexican villages.
We can also pick you up at the airport in San Jose or La Paz which both are 1 hour away or you can drive your own vehicle down.
How's about $1000.00 per year memberships for the first 10 people interested in having a place in the unknown, and unspoiled Baja.
Memberships also include one spouse or significant other.

Now I have seen everything........

capt. mike - 1-16-2005 at 01:55 PM

JR...selling timeshares..... :lol:

Membership

Garry - 1-16-2005 at 03:33 PM

Any shade parking for a RV with acess to water an elec???

Lindalou - 1-16-2005 at 05:37 PM

I was wondering the same thing as you! Sounds like it could be quite an adventure, especially doing it with JR. :biggrin:

RichnLinda

Bob H - 1-17-2005 at 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jrbaja
Memberships also include one spouse or significant other.

Please post photos of the spouse or signifiant other that is included in the membership!

And, why limit this to just 10 - you could get rich on this JR :lol:

Bruce R Leech - 1-17-2005 at 08:19 AM

$1000.00 per year memberships for the first 10 people interested in having a place in the unknown, and unspoiled Baja.

Jr . are you Joking about this or what. how long do you think it is going to remain unknown, and unspoiled if you do this :no:

surfer jim - 1-17-2005 at 09:44 AM

How much for .... CANADAIANS....and P-nche gringos ?....and yes...lets see photos of those "soul mates"

....maybe I will buy all 10 and resell them for $1500 ....

Sorry guys

jrbaja - 1-17-2005 at 10:20 AM

ya gotta bring your own significant others. :lol:

But, as far as selling time shares, it will be helping the local economy food wise and employment wise, it is going to be limited to a certain amount of people, and there are already tours coming here from Los Cabos and La Paz to see the ranchos without be8ing invited.
I'm not sure which ranchos they see but not mine or my neighbors. The difference is, with Baja Bamboo you become involved with the commmunity and live the life for a few days. It's a kick.
It's also a lot safer and cheaper than buying or building a house down here as they are being built already, there are thousands of acres owned by my friends and they are into protecting rather than developing.
Being a part of Baja Bamboo means you would be helping these guys put their kids through school, gas in their cars, tools for their gardens, and many other things that aren't so easy for them to get.
It is a pretty historic community and these guys asked me to see what I could do for raising money. I have done the same thing in San Luis Gonzaga because they are as well aware that things are changing down here.
This is more about alternatives to selling land like employment through tourism, food sales, etc. It's already happening from people that weren't invited and the local people don't really benefit from that much.
Baja Bamboo is all about helping these guys in all the mountain communities because they are very good folks.
Garry, almost. We are first working on the house and palapa in the trees but there will be some areas exactly for that with individual palapas that you pull in next to.
There is a place called Rancho Verde a little north of here that already does have shaded areas I think.
San Bartolo itself isn't really that remote, 1/2 hour from the biggest gringo enclave ever, but, the people here are still practising the rancho life, on purpose. But, they are definitely aware of what's going on elsewhere. They chose not to follow that path but are also aware of needing an income. This is an alternative for them.

and i'm jest funnin' witcha JR....

capt. mike - 1-17-2005 at 11:21 AM

i know you're really doin' good things for good hearted peoples....keep it up.

azusa_bob - 1-17-2005 at 01:32 PM

Hey JR! Are you still making those hand-crafted bamboo gerbil tubes?? :lol:

:moon::moon:

synch - 1-17-2005 at 04:19 PM

Big Bamboo?

Sounds like a Cheech and Chong movie!

Don Jorge - 1-17-2005 at 08:02 PM

Hola JR,

Good to see you there. We had a great trip, collected lots of material. Keep in touch. jorge

[Edited on 1-18-2005 by Don Jorge]

Nice Picture!

Me No - 1-17-2005 at 09:03 PM

Now that is SOME bamboo.....

You could build sky scrapers with that. Oh, wait a sec..... THey do. :lol:

Joaquin Suave - 1-18-2005 at 10:16 AM

Don Jorge!

We were hopeing to see you at Rancho Joaquin Suave.

The bad news...

This was the worst trip for surf that I can remember.

The good news...

We kicked ass on the property! 4 drainage culverts, front gate, lots of road work, & the most tech outhouse in all of Baja.

How did the finca fair with all the rain?

Outhouse?

Don Jorge - 1-19-2005 at 06:16 AM

Hola Jouquin,

Post a pic of the outhouse! Good to hear all is well and progress is being made on your ranchito.
We made it a bit further south than you, about 9 degrees N. Pumped for the first week and then went flat.
When's your next trip south? Keep me posted and put up some pics!

Oh, our farm got wet and we are stripping berries and digging ditches. Nothing new I suppose. After 25 years of this, many el ninos, freezes, droughts, developers, I just pray for the best and expect the worse.
The March miracle of 9 inches in one day back in 94? I was farming in Guadalupe, BCN and the creek rose and took 40 acres of cucumbers which were under plastic and redeposited them downstream, scattered between Porvenir and El Tigre. The El Nino of 83 I was in Santa Barbara and it rained 50 inches and the strawberry season never started.
Ni modo.

Say hi to the little woman and the big dogs! Jorge

whoa!

yankeeirishman - 1-20-2005 at 08:13 AM

you got a botanical name for this type of Bamboo? I cant seem to find it (the type)in my book, and I'm a landscaper! Want to see what specs there are for the plant.

Bruce R Leech - 1-20-2005 at 08:39 AM

tim40 - 1-20-2005 at 09:57 AM

I have been watching, BUT apparently not paying attention.... WOW, that is some bamboo. Tell us again, the primary use.

Dendrocalamus giganteus

Don Jorge - 1-20-2005 at 10:16 AM

As it's botanical name suggests, it is the biggest. One thing nice about this bamboo is it grows in very tight clumps, thus it dominates a landscape but does not overtake it.

Would make a great Baja outhouse, si?

Bruce R Leech - 1-20-2005 at 12:15 PM

Dendrocalamus giganteus

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Type:
Clumping

Height:
30m

Thickness:
30cm

Climate:
Tropical

Application:
Poles

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"Giant Bamboo"

FEATURES:

Very thick culms.
Burma origin.

The name says it all. The largest of all bamboos. Tremendous culms that do not want to grow straight unless the stand is well managed. The weather at Belli is not really suitable and the one specimen here is struggling.

Huge culms yielding large quantities of heavy timber.

I used to drool at the clump in the Flecker Gardens at Cairns until a recent cyclone blew it over. It was in better shape than any seen in South East Asia. Well worth trying to see how it will adapt with some TLC (Tender Loving Care) in a moist warm climate.

Do u bamboo

Sharksbaja - 1-21-2005 at 01:39 AM

Wow, this message board is like havin' flashbacks to the 60s man. No really, you guys are completely out there. Makes me proud to be a new neighbor.

tim40 - 1-23-2005 at 12:27 PM

I apologize in advance if I am just missing it, BUT, what are the primary uses of the bamboo?

Diver - 1-23-2005 at 03:34 PM

Uses

Building materials;
bamboo flooring, paneling, structural members.....
Bamboo flooring is amazingly hard and stable.
I'm sure there are many other uses I haven't mentioned.

jrbaja are you aware...

Ken Bondy - 1-23-2005 at 03:50 PM

that in some countries bamboo is used for concrete reinforcing in lieu of steel (rebar)?
++Ken++

tim40 - 1-23-2005 at 08:32 PM

Thank you. JR, do you have such markets available for your bamboo?

Yes Ken

jrbaja - 1-24-2005 at 02:36 PM

in fact, the tinsel strength of bamboo is actually stronger than steel.
It is also used as a major food source, many musical instruments, blow guns, homes, furniture, which is what I am doing with it down here, irrigation systems, and about 1005 other uses. :light:

It is really some pretty amazing stuff that lost popularity in the u.s. years ago because of its being so communist like :lol:

But now that the asians are becoming a majority in the u.s., it is being rediscovered for many of its uses including flooring.
There is much info. available on the internet as well as countless books.
And Tim, I hope so. I suppose it depends on what the furniture comes out like :light:

But, at this time we are looking at just the market down here. Got any ideas?

[Edited on 1/24/2005 by jrbaja]

tim40 - 1-24-2005 at 02:43 PM

No new ideas yet JR. But certainly appreciate the education. Just today, I learned of a house in my area that has bamboo floors. I look forward to seeing.

And a big fringe benefit.....

Ken Bondy - 1-24-2005 at 03:13 PM

no corrosion!

++Ken++

JR your comment about tensile strength

Ken Bondy - 1-24-2005 at 04:40 PM

intrigued me. As a structural engineer I get anal about stuff like that. I found a good reference on the mechanical properties of bamboo

http://www.romanconcrete.com/docs/bamboo1966/BambooReinforce...

Actually, bamboo has an ultimate tensile strength of about 18,000 psi. The most commonly used grade of rebar used in construction today (ASTM A 615 Grade 60) has a yield strength of 60,000 psi and an ultimate tensile strength somewhat higher than that. So bamboo is about 1/4 as strong as steel in tension. Still very respectable, but steel is in fact much stronger.

++Ken++

Perhaps it wasnt Tensile strength then

jrbaja - 1-25-2005 at 01:04 PM

but, on some site it made some comparisons using some tricky machine and it was actually stronger than steel when bent and stressed.
I will see if I can find the site but I have it printed out at home.
50 pesos por hora for internet in Los barriles!

azusa_bob - 1-25-2005 at 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jrbaja
in fact, the tinsel strength of bamboo is actually stronger than steel.
It is also used as a major food source, many musical instruments, blow guns, homes, furniture, which is what I am doing with it down here, irrigation systems, and about 1005 other uses. :light:

As Reagan once said, "There you go again".... talking out of the wrong hole again JR-ski :lol:

Stronger than steel, my eye! The person that told you this must have been speaking Spanish, hence your confusion on the issue!! :light:

You must be making bongs out of your lousy bamboo, as well as gerbil tubes! :lol:

:moon:

What an idiot !

jrbaja - 1-25-2005 at 01:19 PM

What an idiot you truly are! Cant you find something better to do ?

azusa_bob - 1-25-2005 at 01:25 PM

Your gonna hurt my feeling!

What's wrong, JR? Hard day at the orifice?? :lol:

What's wrong with attacking, ridiculing, and belittling people who are not gifted with as much knowlege as yourself? It's a trick that I learned from you?? :lol:

Dont think so,

jrbaja - 1-25-2005 at 01:27 PM

although equally stupid. Azusa Kneel and Bob were idiots who were booted from the Travelers board for the same nonsense.
Apparently the moderators here enjoy attacks and scum who sign up for just making attacks and are unable to contribute anything Baja related.
Plenty of those marooons running around too. Fortunately, not many on here.

bajalera - 1-25-2005 at 01:35 PM

In the Philippines, some of the high-voltage transmission-line towers--as large as ours--are made out of bamboo, and have weathered typhoons.

Lera

Mexitron - 1-25-2005 at 02:16 PM

Thanks for posting the bamboo report Ken--interesting stuff. I'm surprised the bamboo doesn't have expansive properties that would crack the concrete when wet. I wonder what my clients would think if I laid out bamboo strips for a reinforcing...... :biggrin:

BAM BOO HOO

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2005 at 08:47 PM

:!:

I am new (obviously) with message boards so I 'll get it right sooner or later. Lesson #1 Don't leave the page that you are writing the post on. You will lose all you wrote if you go forward or back on the browser. So, one mo time....

to see if this is working. and this near our home : http://www.bambooguy.com/products.html :!:

No Image Shows

Sharksbaja - 1-25-2005 at 08:50 PM

OK , why didn" those dumb pics work on the post?? Anyone?? Thanks, Sharks

Mexitron, good point...

Ken Bondy - 1-25-2005 at 09:10 PM

The report I cited says:
____________________________
Waterproof Coatings. When seasoned bamboo, either split or whole, is used as reinforcement, it should receive a waterproof coating to reduce swelling when in contact with concrete. Without some type of coating, bamboo will swell before the concrete has developed sufficient strength to prevent cracking and the member may be damaged, especially if more than 4 percent bamboo is used. The type of coating will depend on the materials available. A brush coat or dip coat of asphalt emulsion is preferable. Native latex, coal tar, paint, dilute varnish, and water-glass (sodium silicate) are other suitable coatings. In any case, only a thin coating should be applied; a thick coating will lubricate the surface and weaken the bond with the concrete. _______________________________

You were right about the potential for swelling.

++Ken++

Bruce R Leech - 1-25-2005 at 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
:!:

to see if this is working. and this near our home : http://www.bambooguy.com/products.html :!:

also try to post things that pertain to the thread.or start a new one.

oops

Sharksbaja - 1-26-2005 at 12:00 AM

OOPS! Thanx Grover
HEY! Wasn't my Mark IV pics copyright protected?? Thanx for the warm reception. Yes, www.sharksseafoodbar.com is my(although I blame my wife for most of it)site. Muchas gracias, Tiburons
I think this stuff is bamboo.....

and carved roots.....

i'm outta here

Sharksbaja - 1-26-2005 at 12:05 AM

Yes, the restaurant is ours also

Bruce R Leech - 1-26-2005 at 08:01 AM

right on Pompano they will never make a synthetic Bamboo these rods out perform any others.

For those of you truly interested in bambu

jrbaja - 1-26-2005 at 09:32 AM

here are a few sites that have really good information.
www.bambootechnologies.com
www.koolbamboo.com
www.jmbamboo.com
www.permaearth.org
www.americanbamboo.com

I have 100s of sites and literature but Im on a Mexican computer and cant get apostrophes, slashes, etc.
And, for those of you who do nothing but try to find fault in what I say, do, think, grow, quote, relay information,
get lives and look it up yourselves! :lol:

Ken and everyone else with a lick of sense, thanks for the info. If you are going to be in La Paz in the near future, lets discuss bamboo, and pictures!

Bruce R Leech - 1-26-2005 at 09:36 AM

thanks Jr. keep posting them I read them all.