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Baja Time Machine! Photos from the 1960's and 1970's.

David K - 10-14-2015 at 06:18 PM

Over the next few posts/ days/ weeks in this thread, I will share my family Baja photos that were all on slides... and today I just received them on CD.

Except for a couple, I made prints of many years ago, these have never before been seen on the Internet (or by me for 30 years)!

Since they are not in any special order as I download them, I will add them here randomly, so check back to see if there is some place you recognize from 40-50 years ago!

The slides were from trips to Gonzaga Bay in '65, Nuevo Mazatlan, '67, L.A. Bay in '67, Loreto, Cabo in '72, again to Baja Sur on the new highway in '74, the first SCORE Baja race (at Mike's Sky Rancho) in '74, My dune buggy trips to Baja in '74 and '75, etc.


Our Jeep Wagoneer... this photo taken around 1967, I believe on the road between Ensenada and San Felipe... here between Diablo Dry Lake and San Felipe (?)


South of Puertecitos, on the old, old road!


Heading to Gonzaga Bay, 1965! My first Baja trip!!!


Alfonsina's in 1965... I imagine that is the same concrete pad, with the kitchen on the left, built upon and around today?


Beach in front of Alfonsina's cantina, 50 years ago!


Bahia de los Angeles, Casa Diaz, 1967


Casa Diaz, 1967


Loreto, year? My dad loved fishing... and he flew to the Flying Sportsman Lodge a few times in the 60's, or this may be when he and two fellow-dentists took a trip to the tip in 1972?


San Antonio del Mar, west of Colonet... fish camp just south of dunes.


Here's my dad on the 1972 trip to Cabo with two other dentists, using his 4WD Chevy Suburban. This man is totally responsible for my happy addiction to Baja! He taught me four-wheeling, camping, fishing, and kindness as well as showing people a good time! He passed away in 1989, a few months after my son was born, my mom followed him just a couple years later.







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BornFisher - 10-14-2015 at 06:37 PM

Thanks, looking forward to more.

CortezBlue - 10-14-2015 at 06:47 PM

I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

What he did for a living etc.

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not

TMW - 10-14-2015 at 06:49 PM

Wow, Great pictures David. How time flies.

wessongroup - 10-14-2015 at 07:22 PM

:):) ... Thanks ..

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liknbaja127 - 10-14-2015 at 07:34 PM

Very cool! can't wait to see more!

David K - 10-14-2015 at 10:27 PM


My parents making lunch at Parador Punta Prieta (L.A. Bay Junction) in July 1974. This was a special trip to Cabo so I could have fresh data for my second Baja Road Guide, to be published by The Baja Bulletin Magazine, I was 16 when I took this photo.


1972 Boojum Trees


1974, nearing the new Eagle Monument on the border between the north and Sur, 5 miles north and west from Guerrero Negro then.


1972 Cabo San Lucas at the new Hotel Finisterra.


1972, Casa Diaz, Bahia de los Angeles. Most guests still arrived by plane!


1974 Cielito Lindo, south of San Quintin... a new resort. It hasn't changed hardly at all since then!


SCORE CHECKPOINT, Mike's Sky Rancho, the very first Score Race in Mexico.. the July 1974 Baja Internacional.

Stay tuned amigos!

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Pacifico - 10-15-2015 at 05:57 AM

Great pics! Loving the old photos, David! Look at all that vacant dirt in Cabo....unbelievable!

David K - 10-15-2015 at 08:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico  
Great pics! Loving the old photos, David! Look at all that vacant dirt in Cabo....unbelievable!


Thanks Pacifico... I am leaving for work now, but will try and put a few more up tonight!

I made an edit above, the Casa Diaz photo was from the dentist trip in 1972, not our family trip in 1967... not much difference yet... New road was bulldozed in 1974 from Hwy. 1, and not paved for a few years, and very thin pavement that didn't last very long. In 1984, it was a mess, full of pot holes.

BajaGringo - 10-15-2015 at 08:16 AM

Great photos David, thanks. I lost my own father several decades back and still miss him so very much today. Amazing how after all that time, they continue to make such an impact on who we are today. And so, their memory lives on through us. I know your dad must be smiling right now, reliving these memories with you...



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early Baja

Corky1 - 10-15-2015 at 09:07 AM

David:
Could you post some pictures of the the 3 sisters, showing how rough it was. Late comers to baja won't believe about how rough it really was.

Also the road maintance man with the wheel barrow and shovel.

Thanks
Corky

Vince - 10-15-2015 at 09:10 AM

Thanks for posting those photos and stories, David. I look forward to more of them.

desertcpl - 10-15-2015 at 11:07 AM


Thanks keep them coming

what happened to you Mission tour ??

StuckSucks - 10-15-2015 at 11:36 AM

Love the old photos, especially the 1972 Cabo photo, pre-Marina, pre-$10 beers, pre-huge hotels, pre-drunk Americans - back when Cabo was a real town. Six years after you took this photo, I camped on the beach immediately east of town, just below the cemetery. All progress, I suppose ...

BajaGeoff - 10-15-2015 at 11:41 AM

Awesome pictures DK! I love that Baja nostalgia!

David K - 10-15-2015 at 05:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaGringo  
Great photos David, thanks. I lost my own father several decades back and still miss him so very much today. Amazing how after all that time, they continue to make such an impact on who we are today. And so, their memory lives on through us. I know your dad must be smiling right now, reliving these memories with you...



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Yes, we are fortunate to have dad's that make a positive difference in our lives!

David K - 10-15-2015 at 05:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Corky1  
David:
Could you post some pictures of the the 3 sisters, showing how rough it was. Late comers to baja won't believe about how rough it really was.

Also the road maintance man with the wheel barrow and shovel.

Thanks
Corky


Yes, Corky... and I will post that photo from the Cliff Cross guidebook that shows the wheel barrel guy, south of Puertecitos in the 60's. When we drove by, the wheel barrel was there withy a sign asking for donations, but nobody was around (siesta time, perhaps?).


Edit: Corky, photos of the old road below Puertecitos and guy with the wheel barrel are in this thread... scroll down, second page perhaps: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64948

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1974

David K - 10-15-2015 at 05:45 PM



The Eagle, when you could see it all! Parador Paralelo 28°.

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1974

David K - 10-15-2015 at 08:03 PM


On the newly graded road bed into Bahia de los Angeles. Blacktop would come a few years later! My next trip to L.A. Bay was in summer 1976, and pavement still ended just a few miles east of Hwy. 1, but crews were working on it.

? Hwy. 1 Under Construction ?

David K - 10-15-2015 at 08:10 PM



*Thinking this is the Bahia de los Angeles road... in 1974?

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Ricardo - 10-15-2015 at 08:12 PM

Thanks David I was in Cabo in 72, my camera racheted my film and it wouldn't advance so no pictures, so really enjoy seeing the picture, any of LaPaz?
Rick

1974

David K - 10-15-2015 at 08:15 PM


On the Baja Guidebook research trip to Cabo... My dad's station wagon towing my dune buggy (for any off road excursions). I think this is Parador Punta Prieta (L.A. Bay junction)?

1972 (November)

David K - 10-15-2015 at 08:19 PM


The children of San Borja in front of the mission.

DK,,DK,,David

captkw - 10-15-2015 at 09:59 PM

Mass,,,mass,,mass,, Great Pics and a big Thank's......I miss those early years !!:tumble:

bajamedic - 10-15-2015 at 09:59 PM

David, our first family trip to San Felipe was in 1965. My Father and Uncle took supplies and were helping to build a small church in San Felipe. I believe they stopped going with supplies in 1969 or 1970. Do you recall a small church being built anywhere in town? I have not been able to locate it with all of the changes that have happened over the years. JH

David K - 10-15-2015 at 10:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajamedic  
David, our first family trip to San Felipe was in 1965. My Father and Uncle took supplies and were helping to build a small church in San Felipe. I believe they stopped going with supplies in 1969 or 1970. Do you recall a small church being built anywhere in town? I have not been able to locate it with all of the changes that have happened over the years. JH


Sorry but I do not recall it, we only stopped in San Felipe for gasoline and the bakery (bolillos)... we did visit with Arnold (Arnold's Del Mar Café) and we stayed overnight a couple times at a motel... end of Hwy. 5, on the right far corner of the main street. There was also a mini sub on display as you drove into town, before the end of the highway... We discussed that here on Nomad a year or so ago.

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More Photos...

David K - 10-15-2015 at 10:27 PM


San Borja, November 1972


Rod Hall arriving at Checkpoint Mike's Sky Rancho, July 1974 Score Baja Internacional.


One of the many big signs erected along the new Transpeninsular Highway (notice spelling of economic)


El Triunfo church, July 1974





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micah202 - 10-15-2015 at 10:50 PM

great stuff DK.

I'm trying to figure how far down the time tunnel it was that the journey of San Fellipe to Peurtecitos, Gonzaga Bay and eventually Hwy 1 started with a sign 'peutecitos highway' with a loooong washboard section,, then some narrow mountainous stretches before or after Peurtecitos....I remember being rather terrified up there. Then the road completely fizzled down an arroyo,,hadn't seen a car for seeming days,,but then a truck of locals towed us out,refused any pe$o$!
I think my mind was completely fried by Gonzaga, don't remember it at all,, think it was ~4 days from San Felippe out to hwy 1,,,, can anyone fit the description with the year? Absolutely zero paving between San Felippe and hwy 1.

funny to think how that highway,my first baja adventure,, is still under construction!

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David K - 10-15-2015 at 10:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ricardo  
Thanks David I was in Cabo in 72, my camera racheted my film and it wouldn't advance so no pictures, so really enjoy seeing the picture, any of LaPaz?
Rick


Hi Rick,
I am not sure, I still have not seen them all. One of the two CDs that the slides were transferred onto was blank, so I called the company and they promised to send a replacement.

In 1966, we stayed at the Los Arcos in La Paz (I think). Not there long, as my dad was anxious to get to the Rancho Buena Vista and Bahia de las Palmas resorts for some fishing! Today you guys call that area Los Barriles, but back then it was just the two fly-in resorts on the beach and a tiny village and store behind. Amazing that the road from there to Cabo San Lucas was just a one-lane dirt road. Four years later, the paved highway would be finished to Cabo! They were grading the road in '66 and got just past San Bartolo. The pavement (in '66) ended about 10 miles south of La Paz. We returned to La Paz from Cabo San Lucas through Todos Santos, so we made the full cape loop. We took the ferry from La Paz to Mazatlan for the 'faster' drive home, on pavement.

David K - 10-15-2015 at 11:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by micah202  
great stuff DK.

I'm trying to figure how far down the time tunnel it was that the journey of San Fellipe to Peurtecitos, Gonzaga Bay and eventually Hwy 1 started with a sign 'peutecitos highway' with a loooong washboard section,, then some narrow mountainous stretches before or after Peurtecitos....I remember being rather terrified up there. Then the road completely fizzled down an arroyo,,hadn't seen a car for seeming days,,but then a truck of locals towed us out,refused any pe$o$!
I think my mind was completely fried by Gonzaga, don't remember it at all,, think it was ~4 days from San Felippe out to hwy 1,,,, can anyone fit the description with the year? Absolutely zero paving between San Felippe and hwy 1


Sure, the 52 some mile road to PUERTECITOS was a graded, 2 lane wide (mostly) roadbed (in the 1960's and over 20 years after, when the newer road along the coast was built ... 1982-83.) It did get a washboard surface, specially on the sand northern half. From the sulfur mine south was mostly rocky.

Puertecitos to Gonzaga was a single lane mostly road, bulldozed over the volcanic ridges in the late 1950's, very steep... as the years wore on, the roadbed got rougher and rockier. Two wheel drive trucks would spin their tires trying to climb the steep grades and in doing so would create ruts. That makes the next vehicle slow down and then it spins its tires, etc. etc. Wrecked truck in the canyons below the steep grades testified to the dangers of driving 2WD trucks, with bad brakes! Slow, crawling 4WD low range was the only safe way to Gonzaga Bay (or dune buggies and motorcycles, of course).

By the late 1970s, no more repairs were made south of Puertecitos because the Highway One offered a smoother way (to and from civilization) for the fishermen and resort needs of Gonzaga Bay.

The graded 2WD, 2 lane wide road south from Puertecitos was built in 1986. It too got very rough from lack of maintenance after 2005.

micah202 - 10-15-2015 at 11:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by micah202  
great stuff DK.

I'm trying to figure how far down the time tunnel it was that the journey of San Fellipe to Peurtecitos, Gonzaga Bay and eventually Hwy 1 started with a sign 'peutecitos highway' with a loooong washboard section,, then some narrow mountainous stretches before or after Peurtecitos....I remember being rather terrified up there. Then the road completely fizzled down an arroyo,,hadn't seen a car for seeming days,,but then a truck of locals towed us out,refused any pe$o$!
I think my mind was completely fried by Gonzaga, don't remember it at all,, think it was ~4 days from San Felippe out to hwy 1,,,, can anyone fit the description with the year? Absolutely zero paving between San Felippe and hwy 1


Sure, the 52 some mile road to PUERTECITOS was a graded, 2 lane wide (mostly) roadbed (in the 1960's and over 20 years after, when the newer road along the coast was built ... 1982-83.) It did get a washboard surface, specially on the sand northern half. From the sulfur mine south was mostly rocky.

Puertecitos to Gonzaga was a single lane mostly road, bulldozed over the volcanic ridges in the late 1950's, very steep... as the years wore on, the roadbed got rougher and rockier. Two wheel drive trucks would spin their tires trying to climb the steep grades and in doing so would create ruts. That makes the next vehicle slow down and then it spins its tires, etc. etc. Wrecked truck in the canyons below the steep grades testified to the dangers of driving 2WD trucks, with bad brakes! Slow, crawling 4WD low range was the only safe way to Gonzaga Bay (or dune buggies and motorcycles, of course).

By the late 1970s, no more repairs were made south of Puertecitos because the Highway One offered a smoother way (to and from civilization) for the fishermen and resort needs of Gonzaga Bay.

The graded 2WD, 2 lane wide road south from Puertecitos was built in 1986. It too got very rough from lack of maintenance after 2005.


from your description I'd guess it was the late 80's,,, trying to place amongst girlfriend of the time,,kid's ages ,etc.
Certainly I feel in a strange way honored to see some 'old baja',, even though the 'new highway' had begun!!

David K - 10-15-2015 at 11:34 PM

Whatever year any of us first went to Baja, is our point-of-reference for the 'Good 'ol Days of Baja'.

I would have guessed you were down there before 1986 by your description of the road south of Puertecitos.

It was pretty easy driving after '86 for about 20 years unless it was a while since the grader smoothed it over? Before '86 back to about '76, not many drove it... just too rough and used the Hwy. 1 access road to Laguna Chapala (built about 1983) or via Calamajué Canyon before '83.

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David K - 10-16-2015 at 09:10 AM



California's First Mission, Loreto. Founded in 1697 and the capital of all California for many years. When this photo was taken, the paved town entrance road drove right in front of the mission. The other streets were dirt.
The out-of-sync bell and clock tower was added in 1955 following the church priest winning the National Lottery.

1974

The El Presidente Hotel at San Quintin (on the south outer bay, big beach). A few years after this photo was taken an El Niño condition brought the ocean over the swimming pool and landscape, filling it all with sand!


1974: Hotel El Presidente courtyard... Cataviña.



One of the El Presidente hotel's courtyard, 1974. My guess is the Paralelo 28° hotel at the Eagle Monument?


Perhaps the most attractive, thanks to the Jesuit planted palms? The Hotel El Presidente San Ignacio, in 1974.


The El Presidente Hotel chain sold out to the La Pinta Hotels who ran the Baja Highway Inns for many years. A few years ago they were renamed Desert Inn... and a couple years ago, more changes. The San Quintin one became the Hotel Misión Santa María. The Cataviña one became the Hotel Misión Cataviña. The Paralelo 28° one (near Guerrero Negro) became the Half Way Hotel (or something like that?).


Off to work... more to come!

PS I also have a Super 8 movie I took in 1973 of the Baja 1000 going by (I was about 10 miles east of Ojos Negros). I may need some help on how to put that on You Tube with some background music, it was converted to a DVD. Thanks!





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David K - 10-16-2015 at 09:04 PM


Hotel Finisterra, Cabo San Lucas. November 1972


El Rincon, 7 miles north of Cabo Pulmo in July 1974


Parador Punta Prieta/ "Bahia Angeles" junction, July 1974


The newly paved road to "Bahia Angeles" as seen from the Parador cafeteria. The blacktop ended less than a mile from Hwy. 1 ... just out-of-sight from this point. July 1974.


Volcón Trés Vírgenes between San Igncacio and Santa Rosalía, July 1974


Top of Cuesta del Infierno, July 1974


Entering Santa Rosalia, July 1974


Stay tuned for more...

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windgrrl - 10-17-2015 at 06:29 AM

Thanks for sharing your adventures!

Meany - 10-17-2015 at 07:56 AM

Thanks for the Great Pictures. :bounce:

PaulW - 10-17-2015 at 08:20 AM

David, That Rod Hall Bronco is now owned by Todd Zuecher and his good friend Andrew. After they bought it Glen Straightiff & Chris Wilson restored it and they raced it in in the first NORRA 1000. Todd was happy to see your unpublished picture. The Bronco is still in pristine condition and shows up at various events.
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


Rod Hall arriving at Checkpoint Mike's Sky Rancho, July 1974 Score Baja Internacional.

advrider - 10-17-2015 at 09:03 AM

Some of the coolest photos ever!!! Thanks for sharing with us. Love the dune buggy.

David K - 10-17-2015 at 09:59 AM

Great to hear from you guys... I have more! The CD that was blank has been replaced. It has most of the photos from my first dune buggy trip (Spring Break 1974). The dune buggy my dad bought from a couple in Escondido who built it first to race (old Borrego 100 race, I think). It was a Myers Manx/ VW 1600cc. They used it to do a trip to L.A. Bay in the late 60's or early 70's. The trip was written up in the local newspaper. They lost forward gears and had to drive backward (I think it was between San Borja and L.A. Bay?)! The buggy had turning breaks (traction control in those days) for added climbing abilty. It easily went over the 'Gonzaga Grades' (twice) for me in '74 and '75.

Paul, I have a LOT more photos of the '74 Score Baja Internacional at contingency in Ensenada and at Mike's Sky Rancho (where there was a 1 hour mandatory down-time). Please share the Baja Nomad link with any of your race friends. If they want a direct email of the photo, I am happy to share! 41 years ago was Score's first Baja race, and it was great to be there!

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David K - 10-17-2015 at 11:03 AM


Mike's Sky Rancho 1974 Baja Internacional (it couldn't be called the Baja 500 for several years over a legal challenge by NORRA who owned the name but was kicked out of Baja by Mexico after the '73 Baja 500). The second racer is one of the Sprint Car type buggies, like Mickey Thompson raced a few years after this one we see from Chenowth...


Johnny Johnson (31) went from VW power to V-8 power in this Chenowth Super Sprint. Race car #299 left the starting line at 10:59 am (per my program) and I have him arriving at Mike's at 5:02 pm. As I recall, Johnny won the '73 Baja 1000 with co-driver and Hollywood stuntman Bobby Ferro in a Class One buggy. I had some email exchanges with Johnny a couple years ago... he was enjoying life cruising (or sailing) on the Sea of Cortez between La Paz and Loreto.


There were many Bill Stroppe prepared Ford trucks and Broncos. These two guys were from Colorado. In at 5:23 pm.


Speaking of Bobby Ferro, here he is, arriving at 3:03 pm. He was one of those "if you're not first, you're last kind of 'all-out' racers! Bummer this guy stepped in front of me as I was taking the picture!


OKAY... a quick switch of topics... for the boat lovers and fishermen on Nomad....


This is the new cabin cruiser my dad had made at a boat factory in Texas (early 1960's). We went there to get it and tow it back to Del Mar, California. I think I was about 5... so summer of 1963 maybe?


We often took the boat to the Salton Sea. In those years, you could swim, fish, and eat the fish there!



CortezBlue - 10-17-2015 at 09:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

What he did for a living etc.

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not


Your first two questions are answered in the captions under the photos...

Here in more detail:

1) Fishing... he loved to fish and heard Baja was the place. He liked surf fishing a lot and heard about Agua de Chale (Nuevo Mazatlan) having fantastic surf (beach) fishing from Andy Anderson, a friend of Howard Gulick... that's the author and map maker for the Lower California Guidebook and source of so many photos from the 50's and 60's in Baja.

Andy told my dad he would need a Jeep to get to the hot fishing spots... and that Jeep now made a 'Wagoneer' for family travel, in comfort!

2) Dentist... at the time of our first Baja trips, he had his own office in Rancho Santa Fe. Several celebrities were his patients, most notably remembered by me was Cliff Robertson, who stayed at our home once. Robert Young and Governor /General Rodriguez of Baja California many years before, are a couple others some of you might know about?

3) Yes, she loved camping in Baja, fishing, off-road race spectating, etc. I got my love of history and the old missions from her, I think? When my dad wasn't able to take us to Baja, after I was driving, I went, and my mom sometimes went on my trips.

Stay tuned for more...


So let me get this straight.

I give you opportunity to wax nostalgically about the man who influenced your entire Baja experience, and this is it?

You spew 2 to 3 times the diatribe about telling someone how to spell or pronounce a word in Spanish, but this is it about your Dad's, obvious, passion to drive into, what was then, a very primitive environment?

Wow!

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David K - 10-17-2015 at 10:38 PM

I thought I provided all the details you were seeking?

My dad did not influence my "entire" Baja experience. My mom, as well as other Baja authors, and people in history also contributed.

This is a thread about photos of Baja's past I had just converted from slide to digital.

My objective is sharing something I have with others so that they can enjoy it too.


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Nuevo Mazatlan (Agua de Chale) 1967

David K - 10-17-2015 at 11:13 PM


Campo Nuevo Mazatlan founder Luis Castellanos Moreno plays guitar to us to welcome us to his camp, on a busy Thanksgiving weekend. My 3rd grade school friend, Shawn Glover listens in.


Luis lets my dad "ham it up".


Luis had a favorite dog, named "Corsadio" (sp?)


Luis welcomes my sister, Annalee to Nuevo Mazatlan.


Of course, the big draw was the fantastic fishing less than 2 miles up the beach, at the lagoon, which in a couple more years would be named "Bahia Santa Maria". In 1967, it was just sand and Nuevo Mazatlan a mile and a half south. In the distance, on the right is the mountain near Punta Estrella and just left, the peak that is behind San Felipe.


Shawn shows off one of the many corbina we would catch. Not photographed, but Shawn hooked up a 'baby' totuava we estimated at 50 pounds, got it to the shore and it broke free of his very light weight tackle.


This fellow was taking a nap when we startled him.

ehall - 10-18-2015 at 07:30 AM

Beautiful pictures. Nice dune buggy too!

Cliffy - 10-18-2015 at 08:55 AM

WOW! As I mentioned before. my first trip was about 75-74 in a Wagoneer also to Gonzaga when Papa was alive. Went from the Mex 1 side at night and bumped into a Federal road block somewhere in the hills. Surprised us. One of our party was fluent in Spanish and we had no problems. Flew into Casa Diaz a year or 2 later and parked right where the picture shows the Cessna 310.
With the roads comes construction. With construction comes more people.
We can wax nostalgic all we want, but the past is past. Now we push into even more remote places.
My Father taught me to fish in the High Sierras at June Lake CA in the early 50s. A place I return to often.

bacquito - 10-18-2015 at 09:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

What he did for a living etc.

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not


Good questions!

David K - 10-18-2015 at 09:57 AM

Thanks, guys! Cliffy, thanks for sharing a past story. I hope I inspire more Nomads to describe the way it was for them, back then!

OK... Just to keep it fun:


My dad's Chevy 4X4 on the November 1972 'Dentist Trip', to Cabo. Where are they getting fuelled up at?

bacquito - 10-18-2015 at 10:03 AM

So interesting, thanks for sharing.

David K - 10-18-2015 at 10:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bacquito  
Quote: Originally posted by CortezBlue  
I would like to hear about your Dad

I want to know what drove him to explore Mexico in the 60's?

Fishing... he loved to fish and heard Baja was the place. He liked surf fishing a lot and heard about Agua de Chale (Nuevo Mazatlan) having fantastic surf (beach) fishing from Andy Anderson, a friend of Howard Gulick... that's the author and map maker for the Lower California Guidebook and source of so many photos from the 50's and 60's in Baja.

Andy told my dad he would need a Jeep to get to the hot fishing spots... and that Jeep now made a 'Wagoneer' for family travel, in comfort!


What he did for a living etc.

Dentist... at the time of our first Baja trips, he had his own office in Rancho Santa Fe. Several celebrities were his patients, most notably remembered by me was Cliff Robertson, who stayed at our home once. Robert Young and Governor /General Rodriguez of Baja California many years before, are a couple others some of you might know about?

Also if your Mom enjoyed it or not

Yes, she loved camping in Baja, fishing, off-road race spectating, etc. I got my love of history and the old missions from her, I think? When my dad wasn't able to take us to Baja, after I was driving, I went, and my mom sometimes went on my trips.


Good questions!


I added the answers I gave Blue, in case you missed them. The captions under the photos did provide some of these answers already before he asked. Happy to help!

Gonzaga Bay 1972

David K - 10-18-2015 at 10:19 AM

Every day in Baja began with a line in the water, for my dad!



Alfonsina's is in the distance. The beach before the private home area is one of Baja's finest camping spots for us in the 60's & 70's. Sand, sea, and surf fishing. Two trips in 1965 then passed through in '67 twice, the photo above in '72, I camped there in '74, '75, '79, '83, and '86, before the trips taken after my kids were born ('88 & '90).

wessongroup - 10-18-2015 at 12:46 PM

Nothing wrong with remembering the good times ... just glad you were into taking pictures ... thanks brings back memories for me ... my Dad starting going in the early 50's .. and took me and my brother ... my mom had NO desire to "rough it" like that in the 50's ... one took it with ya and hoped ya took enough in spare parts, tools .. et al

Some adventure for young kids ... I know it is still with me, and those pictures are a "flash back" to some happy times

We all loved going to Baja ... back then .. not so much after the roads started getting better ... more people and all kinds of other stuff

And Easter break ... was one that we used too :):)

[Edited on 10-18-2015 by wessongroup]

Cliffy - 10-18-2015 at 12:51 PM

Papa served fried tortuga the first night!

BajaRat - 10-18-2015 at 02:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thanks, guys! Cliffy, thanks for sharing a past story. I hope I inspire more Nomads to describe the way it was for them, back then!

OK... Just to keep it fun:


My dad's Chevy 4X4 on the November 1972 'Dentist Trip', to Cabo. Where are they getting fuelled up at?



What a Burb......
Thanks David, Lionel :cool:

Airing up the tires, 1972

David K - 10-18-2015 at 03:28 PM



I think this is coming off the beach at Gonzaga Bay?
In those years, we had a device that screwed into where a spark plug goes that pumped air into the tires. The compression drove a small valve in the device that would draw in clean air and push it into the tires. They worked great, was fast, but dealing with removing a hot plug and hot device at the end of the process was a chore. In 1979, I got my first electric air pump that worked off the cigarette lighter. Had a 4WD Subaru then and 13" tires didn't take too long to fill with the slower electric pump.

Nov., 1972

David K - 10-18-2015 at 03:37 PM



Sure enough, cleaning dishes before packing up to leave Gonzaga Bay, the three dentists have many more miles to go.

I remember my dad telling me they were in the middle of the Baja 1000 (Mexican 1000) going on and they saw Parnelli Jones (who won that year, overall) in the Big Oly Bronco at one point.

Another surprise was all the new highway completed to a point between Santa Rosalia and San Ignacio, coming north from La Paz. Just a few years earlier (on our family trip of 1966), pavement began just 100 miles north of La Paz.


David K - 10-18-2015 at 03:52 PM


The road to San Borja, 1972



Coming into San Ignacio was such a change from the hundreds of miles of desert leading to it! No pavement here, yet!

wessongroup - 10-18-2015 at 05:35 PM

Will say, that when ya hit that pavement ... it sure felt good :biggrin::biggrin:

David K - 10-18-2015 at 07:08 PM


Driving into San Ignacio, 1972.


Driving south from Puertecitos, 1972


Mornings like this, a couple lines in the water, makes the drive to Gonzaga Bay in '72, not so bad!


PaulW - 10-19-2015 at 08:24 AM

David posted the Rod Hall picture what about the map.

Anybody have the map for "July 1974 Score Baja Internacional" ?

David K - 10-19-2015 at 09:05 AM

The '74 program only has the racers, no maps like the programs after. This was a quickly produced race, but a lot of details went into the planning. Mickey Thompson had made several visual checkpoints in addition to the full stop checkpoints. Another unique feature was the mandatory 1-hour downtime at Mike's Sky Rancho.

The course went from Ensenada to Ojos to El Rayo to Santa Catarina to Valle de Trinidad to near San Vicente to Camalu to Mike's Sky Rancho to San Matias and back to Ensenada, via Ojos Negros on the same route the race uses outbound, (from Santa Catarina to Ensenada). I drew it out on an AAA map.

El Rayo was Checkpoint 1 & 6
Valle de Trinidad was Checkpoint 2 &5
Camalu was Checkpoint 3
Mike's was Checkpoint 4.

PaulW - 10-19-2015 at 03:01 PM

In that case if you still have your hand drawn map can you post it?
Thanks. Paul
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The '74 program only has the racers, no maps like the programs after. This was a quickly produced race, but a lot of details went into the planning. Mickey Thompson had made several visual checkpoints in addition to the full stop checkpoints. Another unique feature was the mandatory 1-hour downtime at Mike's Sky Rancho.

The course went from Ensenada to Ojos to El Rayo to Santa Catarina to Valle de Trinidad to near San Vicente to Camalu to Mike's Sky Rancho to San Matias and back to Ensenada, via Ojos Negros on the same route the race uses outbound, (from Santa Catarina to Ensenada). I drew it out on an AAA map.

El Rayo was Checkpoint 1 & 6
Valle de Trinidad was Checkpoint 2 &5
Camalu was Checkpoint 3
Mike's was Checkpoint 4.

David K - 10-19-2015 at 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
In that case if you still have your hand drawn map can you post it?
Thanks. Paul
========
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The '74 program only has the racers, no maps like the programs after. This was a quickly produced race, but a lot of details went into the planning. Mickey Thompson had made several visual checkpoints in addition to the full stop checkpoints. Another unique feature was the mandatory 1-hour downtime at Mike's Sky Rancho.

The course went from Ensenada to Ojos to El Rayo to Santa Catarina to Valle de Trinidad to near San Vicente to Camalu to Mike's Sky Rancho to San Matias and back to Ensenada, via Ojos Negros on the same route the race uses outbound, (from Santa Catarina to Ensenada). I drew it out on an AAA map.

El Rayo was Checkpoint 1 & 6
Valle de Trinidad was Checkpoint 2 &5
Camalu was Checkpoint 3
Mike's was Checkpoint 4.


It is very shredded (torn at folds) plus I added a couple more Score races routes on the same map. Still, I will scan it for you... and post it in a new thread in the Off Roading forum (give me a couple days, then bug me if I don't post it).


OK, back to Baja in the 60's and 70's...

David K - 10-19-2015 at 09:15 PM

As I said at the start of this thread, the slides are not in order, but I will try and group them per subject or area, if possible.


Airing up the tires at Gonzaga Bay.


My dad at a Los Cabos resort, maybe Palmilla?



The beach at Cabo San Lucas, 1972



Getting on the ferry to cross to the mainland in 1972. I am not sure if this is La Paz or Santa Rosalia... I am thinking it was La Paz. The Santa Rosalia ferry to Guaymas did begin in '72.

Spring Break, 1974

David K - 10-19-2015 at 10:04 PM

At 16 1/2, my first 'solo' (no parents) trip to Mexico! A high school friend convinced his parents it would be safe (my parents and I helped) for us... and it was. We did have a little bit of a run-in with some guys at our first camp, at Mission San Fernando... a story for later...




My dune buggy packed up for my first Baja trip without parents. My fellow 16 year old high school friend Pat Goforth and I about to leave my home for a week in Baja (to and through: Ensenada, Mission San Fernando, El Marmol, Calamajue, Gonzaga, San Felipe, and back). Easter Vacation, 1974.

We used my family's Myers Manx VW powered dune buggy (street legal), which became my first car. It had a roof and rack for camping gear.

The Baja highway was only 5 months old... and south of San Quintin, very narrow (still is, most of the 1973 paved section)...




The Old Main Road to La Paz passed closer to El Castillo (the cliff across the Rosario valley, named The Castle) than does Hwy. 1.


Junípero Serra's first California mission was right here at Velicatá. He named it San Fernando on May 14, 1769 (two months before founding the mission at San Diego).

The mission ruin was cool... but the petroglyphs, less than a mile away were super neat to find. I read about them, but were not sure exactly where to go from the mission...










Just as I was taking the picture, Pat wanted to point one out to me. Just on the left of Pat's finger, note the human form.


The next day, we drove to El Mármol onyx mine and then to try and find El Volcán where onyx is under construction, by Nature.


The view back and down to El Mármol from the less-used road on south. You can see Cerro Matomí way off on the horizon.

More to come!


[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

ehall - 10-19-2015 at 10:14 PM

We had one of those tire pumps. It didn't draw in fresh air that was a check valve in the line that held the air in the tire when the engine wasn't on compression stroke. I am surprised we had no explosions.

David K - 10-19-2015 at 10:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
We had one of those tire pumps. It didn't draw in fresh air that was a check valve in the line that held the air in the tire when the engine wasn't on compression stroke. I am surprised we had no explosions.


The pump actually advertised it pumps clean air, and I even breathed it to prove to a skeptic that thought the same as you. That silver thing that screwed into the spark plug port was basically working like two check valves (one that drew air in-line and the other to prevent air from escaping from the tire). I suppose there must be something online about those gadgets? Dick Cepek sold thousands. The technical problem is for the few minutes you are using it, your engine is running on one fewer cylinders (at idle only), and uncombusted air/ fuel mix is being discharged. I used it on my 4 cylinder VW and Subarus, as well as my V-8 Jeep, never a problem.

ehall - 10-20-2015 at 06:12 AM

1 1/2 intake valve or 1/4 hose. Which would have less restriction? Would be very interesting to test one of these. I have access to air monitors. I will work on it. Great pictures. You have had some awesome trips. Very lucky to have parents that introduced you to baja at a young age.

David K - 10-20-2015 at 08:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
1 1/2 intake valve or 1/4 hose. Which would have less restriction? Would be very interesting to test one of these. I have access to air monitors. I will work on it. Great pictures. You have had some awesome trips. Very lucky to have parents that introduced you to baja at a young age.


Right... fun stuff.





How the air pump works.
The Spark Plug Air Pump utilises the induction and compression strokes of the normal four-stroke engine cycle. On the induction stroke air enters the cylinder through the breather slots in the pump. This atmospheric pressure neutralises the suction of the downward motion of the piston and prevents the normal entry of petrol mixture into the cylinder through the open inlet valve of the engine. On the compression stroke both inlet and exhaust valves are closed as usual. Meanwhile, compression of the air by the piston closes the seal over the breather slots and causes the ball valve to open, allowing the compressed, clean air to pass through to the tyre.
A reasonably good engine run at idling speed will pump 80lb pressure and up. More than one pump can be used from one engine when greater volume, not pressure, is required. The pump will do no harm and operates best when the engine is just running slowly.







OK, in review of stuff I have not looked at in 35+ years, it seems that the induction of outside air into the cylinder prevents the negative pressure that would otherwise draw in the fuel (air/gas mix )from the carburetor.

I read another forum, where the posted thought as I had, that the device screwed into the spark plug port was doing all the air pumping and the engine stroke simply drove the device pump. Unless there is another version? In any case, back in the days of carburetors, the thing did pump clean, dry air into tires.

So, with a modern electronic port fuel injection, that wouldn't work at putting clean air into tires?

[Edited on 10-20-2015 by David K]

1974 Spring Break Trip by Dune Buggy: El Volcán & Cataviña

David K - 10-21-2015 at 12:07 AM




Looking for El Volcán soda spring where onyx is made... northeast from El Mármol.



Almost 4 miles from El Mármol, we come down a long grade and next to this arroyo with a cave... the road soon crosses the arroyo and continues eastward. This is actually Arroyo el Volcán and if we parked at the arroyo crossing and walked 1/2 mile up the arroyo, we would have found the onyx dome, cold water geyser and much water! I didn't find it until 29 years later! However, just past the arroyo crossing, the road passed a short hill with mineralized water oozing out at various places. The hill looked like a little volcano, so we guessed it was the El Volc�n spring site?


So here were the false El Volcán springs. See my dune buggy down from the spring water flow?

The place is so fascinating... the real El Volcán, which is just around this hill (to the left) and up the big arroyo a short walk from the road crossing... You may be able to drive up the arroyo part way, as we did in 2011.

Interested? Here is my 2006 trip page to El Mármol and El Volcán: http://vivabaja.com/marmol/

2011 El Volcán, including video clips of cold, bubbling springs: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52804






Back on the 5-month-old Transpeninsular Highway... The big boulder the highway cut through is a good landmark, north of Cataviña.


The newly opened El Presidente Hotel Cataviña/Santa Inés as seen from the Parador rest area/cafateria, and next door to the Pemex station.



At the Parador Cataviña was a Green Angel truck and crew. They patrolled the new highway, and like the paradors, were to guarantee safety for drivers on the desolate, unpopulated Baja wilderness!



Sunken garden inside one of the parador cafeterias (San Quintin, Cataviña, Punta Prieta, Paralelo 28°, or San Ignacio)

Paradors were air-conditioned rest areas, sunken gardens, food, restrooms, and showers. Located next to Pemex stations and a trailer park for campers and RVs. All Paradors had an El Presidente hotel there or nearby, except Punta Prieta (L.A. Bay Jcn.).

San Quintin (south by Santa María), Cataviña, Punta Prieta (L.A. Bay Jcn.), Paralelo 28° (near Guerrero Negro), and San Ignacio were the paradores.
San Agustin had a Pemex station and a trailer park... across from a road maintenance camp.

The Green Angels were fully equipped traveling auto mechanics should anyone break down in the uninhabited sections of the highways. No charge for labor, just for parts.

Mexico WANTED tourism and did these things so travelers would feel safe and comfortable coming down to Baja. The Tourist Card was FREE for 180 days and you could get it at a checkpoint located in Maneadero., which was the south limit of the 'border zone'.

MORE TO COME!

[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

1974 Spring Break Trip by Dune Buggy (cont'd)

David K - 10-21-2015 at 10:34 PM

From Cataviña, we went south and about 10 miles past Laguna Chapala took a left on the water truck road made the previous year when the highway was built. Plenty of water was in Calamajué Canyon, and this road was a short cut saving 12 miles off of driving to El Crucero and then north.

There was plenty of water on the road in Calamajué Canyon, but no problem for my dune buggy. We went to the mission and then went to on to Gonzaga Bay. I know I went to the turquoise mine the next year, but not sure about this trip? No photos were saved if I had any.


First view of the Sea of Cortez on our '74 trip. That is Punta Final.

We put a hole in my back tire along here, and at Alfonsina's they put a 'boot' inside (we used inner tubes back then). We went down the beach a ways, and camped.



Heading north... over the "Gonzaga Grades"...


View back south, Isla el Huerfanito and some of the other 'Enchanted Islands".

In those days, the road between Puertecitos and Gonzaga Bay was considered the toughest road in Baja. There were several steep, narrow, rocky grades that could only safely be driven in 4WD or a dune buggy. The wrecks of autos and trucks in the canyons below testified to that fact!



Of course, there is no room to pass, so it was smart to stop at the top of each grade, turn off the engine, and listen for another vehicle before proceeding ahead. This was "Highway #5" before 1986 when a graded 2WD road replaced it.



The road was still not terrible, but with the Transpeninsular Highway completed, it was far easier to get into and out of Gonzaga Bay via Calamajué Canyon to Highway One now. In 1983, the graded road from Laguna Chapala to Puerto Calamajué made it even shorter. Where that road crosses the gulf road is where Coco's Corner was established.. many years later.

The gulf road north of Gonzaga fell into disrepair for lack of use, except for some crazy gringos in four wheel drives and buggies! By 1985-6, when the new road south of Puertecitos was made, the older road had become nearly impassible. I last drove it in 1979... muy malo!

More to come!



[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

PaulW - 10-22-2015 at 05:00 AM

Turquoise Ponds - track before paving


David K - 10-22-2015 at 09:26 AM

Here are photos from the 1975 dune buggy trip, where we did go to the turquoise mine... (this is from my website, VivaBaja.com)

First photo of the buggy and me on the road to El Mármol, April 1975. The others in this post are of the turquoise mine...





Turquoise Mine in 1975. Photo by David K of Mike Clancy collecting turquoise.



View from mine, southeast towards the pools. Photo by David K in 1975. Photos of a 2002 visit to the pools at http://VivaBaja.com/1102/page2.html

Here's a couple photos of the green pools from bbbait ("Wayno"):







I read about the pools and turquoise mine in Cliff Cross' 1970 Baja Guide:



[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

1974

David K - 10-26-2015 at 09:55 AM


Here I am at the sulfur mine, 23 miles south of San Felipe. This is where the main road south used to pass by. The road east to Nuevo Mazatlan (5 miles) was also here, just south of this slope of sulfur.



Camp set up at Nuevo Mazatlan, April 1974. The camp owner (Luis) planted cuttings of a nearby salt cedar (tamarisk) tree, in rows, and made a perfect shade forest in the desert. The roof rack on that dune buggy made it possible to carry all the comforts of camping!



On the main road between San Felipe and Puertecitos: We drove into town from Nuevo Mazatlan and on the way back, Pat wanted to ride up on top.



A few months later Pat and another friend (Bernard Karwick) joined me on a trip back to Nuevo Mazatlan. I brought down good food, like steak and corn and that impressed them over the hot dogs or what they brought to eat!



Bernard and Pat at Nuevo Mazatlan.

1973/1974

David K - 10-28-2015 at 09:18 AM


At Cataviña in July 1974



The entrance road to San Ignacio, July 1974.



Morning at Juncalito, the pot of gold for fishing in July 1973!



Fishing dorado (dolphinfish/ Mahimahi) with Ramon Villalejo out of Juncalito (south of Loreto) in July 1973.





[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

David K - 11-1-2015 at 11:48 AM



In summer 1974 at Nuevo Mazatlan during an extreme high lunar tide when the sea crested the top of the beach and flooded into the flat area by the trees and campground.

David K - 11-1-2015 at 11:54 AM



Casa Diaz , Bahia de los Angeles, July 1974

wessongroup - 11-1-2015 at 12:17 PM

Thanks again ... still brings back memories

That was a nice set up you had going back then ... those VW's were a nice little car in Baja back then

And you were well set for camping, at that time

Had a ski rack on the back of my VW ... used it to carry pole's and clamming fork :):) if I repeat .. please excuse

Still fun to look at folks getting out .... and especially back then ... those road were pretty tough in places ... but, fun

It is STILL a way to GO BACK in time

you were really Cadillac camping "chairs" :):)

[Edited on 11-1-2015 by wessongroup]

basautter - 11-1-2015 at 02:06 PM

Very cool! Thanks for sharing.

David K - 11-1-2015 at 02:23 PM

Yes, my dad showed me how camping need not be uncomfortable! A table for meal prep and chairs to relax were key.

bigboy - 11-1-2015 at 04:26 PM

David.....I love the pictures from your early trips. My first trip to Cabo was in 1972 and I too drove down the east side to Gonzaga bay. I had a brand new 1971 Ford F250 4X4 and I'm glad I had it for that three sisters road!
I took the same ferry as your dad did so I wouldn't have to drive back to California on the dirt road. But of course, I drove to Cabo the next year as well! What memories....thanks

David K - 11-1-2015 at 06:16 PM

Great times, indeed! We who saw Baja before pavement robbed her of her innocence are indeed fortunate!

Early 1960's

David K - 11-1-2015 at 06:32 PM

OK, not Baja... but shows how the beach was important to my parents and I growing up! This is our 'backyard' in Del Mar, California (3010 Sandy Lane)...


That's my mom and our Samoyed 'Santa Claus', my first dog growing up.





I still like playing in the sand! Mostly in 4WD, but sand castles are fun, even as a grandfather, now! My posse always included pretty girls! LOL

[Edited on 11-2-2015 by David K]

Mike's Sky Rancho July 1974 Score Baja Internacional

David K - 11-1-2015 at 06:51 PM








This was the race overall winner, Bobby Ferro.

TMW - 11-1-2015 at 07:54 PM

Wow that's a heck of a location in Del Mar. Beautiful to set out there with a nice drink and watch the sun go down or watch the girls walking up and down the beach.

bigboy - 11-1-2015 at 08:31 PM

Beautiful mother and great neighborhood to grow up in!

Higo - 11-1-2015 at 10:27 PM

These pics are incredible! Thanks so much for sharing them!

norte - 11-2-2015 at 08:22 AM

nice history lesson. Time before all the crime. Shows you what a good education and hard work can get you....continuous trips to anywhere you want to go.

David K - 11-2-2015 at 08:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Wow that's a heck of a location in Del Mar. Beautiful to set out there with a nice drink and watch the sun go down or watch the girls walking up and down the beach.


Right! Well, my dad loved surf fishing and it was perfect. He had flood lights pointed out so he could night fish as well. Corbina was our diet! The beach house was the first one as you entered Del Mar southbound from Solana Beach on Hwy. 101. We lived there from 1957 to 1964. There is a newer, bigger house on that lot today, plus the big rock barrier in front placed after the El Niño in '83 or ?

[Edited on 1-7-2021 by David K]

Ensenada, the day before the race, July 1974

David K - 11-3-2015 at 10:58 AM

SCORE BAJA INTERNACIONAL











The very first SCORE Baja race would go on to be a total success and the start of 45 years of Baja racing by the Mickey Thompson founded organization.

Walker Evans at Mike's Sky Rancho checkpoint

David K - 11-4-2015 at 12:06 PM



A pit mechanic hopped in and the co-driver got in back so Walker could discuss the truck as they drove to their pit. I believe Walker was racing a Stroppe Ford truck in the '74 Score race.

David K - 11-11-2015 at 05:22 PM

Have been neglecting this thread for a few days while attending other projects (such as working on the new book a lot)... I do have more from the '74 Score race... and as soon as I learn how to post on YouTube, my Super 8 video of the 1973 Baja 1000 from the course, just beyond the end of pavement, east of Ojos Negros.

More from '74... Mike's Sky Rancho Score Checkpoint

David K - 11-12-2015 at 02:34 PM








bajacamper - 11-19-2015 at 09:39 PM

DK, as have told you before, some pictures of your Mom remind me so much of my Mom. Brings a smile every time you post a pic of her. Not a ringer but close. She was a hunter and fisherman and spent a lot of time in Baja in the 70s 80s. 5'4" 125 lbs and tough as could be. Thank you.

Punta Chivato

Brett858 - 11-20-2015 at 05:48 PM

This was circa 1995. Not as old as most of these pics, but it qualifies as a trip in the way-back machine for me...

pc1.jpeg - 44kB

David K - 7-18-2018 at 03:46 PM

Some of the reasons I got hooked on Baja.

advrider - 7-18-2018 at 08:31 PM

Some of the best Baja pictures ever! Thanks for sharing...

David K - 7-18-2018 at 08:53 PM

Glad you like them... I bumped this in case newbies would enjoy them. I hope to inspire new photos and new trip reports from the past or present. How about it, new (and old) Nomad members, care to share?

David K - 1-7-2021 at 12:00 PM

Several Spanish letters and degree symbols fixed, that had changed to black diamonds after a Nomad reboot.