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What is your emergency plan right now?

EnsenadaDr - 10-29-2015 at 06:11 AM

OK so you are enjoying a beautiful evening by the campfire, barbecuing that delicious fish you caught. You start feeling uneasy, some indigestion at the pit of your stomach, and pressure in your chest. Have you thought about where you are currently or where you might be on vacation in the future in Baja and what your emergency plan is? Who to call? Suggestion is to have your cell phone programmed with a neighbor or close friend if alone. Does your GPS work in your location? If you are with a spouse or significant other, where would you head if there is no ambulance service? What is the closest emergency clinic or hospital in the area? All of us should know these things. Take this scenario and apply it to right now, where you are if in Baja. If you are planning a trip take it to that location where you will be in the near future. And what insurance do you have? Do you know if it will be accepted at the location you will go to? This is a health fire drill, you might be surprised at how unprepared you are, or maybe surprise yourself at your perfect preparedness.

Good thought Ensenada Dr.

John M - 10-29-2015 at 07:32 AM

It could be most beneficial to develop a list of medical places we might be near. I realize high level care or specialties might be wanting in some regions but at least we could have a chance beyond opening our probably deficient first aid kit in the boondocks.

Maybe a major city by city directory of some sort. It could save endless driving looking for something blindly.

Perhaps we could utilize Nomad's experiences to begin to compile a list.

I've thought about this issue before and welcome useful help.

John M

bajatrailrider - 10-29-2015 at 07:34 AM

While we are talking about this Dr. What is a good Medical Ins to get in Ensanada.For full timer.

shari - 10-29-2015 at 08:04 AM

this is an excellent topic Dr. and I believe that most people are unprepared for a medical emergency. I have had to deal with several of these in our remote area...people arriving on boats, car & motorcycle accidents and health emergencies... and have learned a great deal about how to respond to them.

What is most important for the person helping you is that you have all your documents in an accessible place and having a clear phone # to call for insurance purposes and next of kin. In an emergency where someone may not be lucid, it is important to have some kind of medical instructions, with allergies, a bit of family history maybe, blood type etc.

I have found that TIME of of the essence and getting a medivac in remote areas is a challenge and takes way too much time to organize. I found that using the local airlines to evacuate the patient was far faster and cheaper too although I had to pay up front till the family could get money to me.

Choosing where to go to get medical help is another important decision in the TIME factor. For example, you are in Turtle Bay and your appendix rupture...where do you go? Although Bahia Asuncion is the closest hospital, we dont do emergency operations here so you nee

Knowing or having a phone number of a contact person who can help you is important. I always give our guests travelling here my cell phone in case of an emergency.

Things can go very wrong in paradise and you really need to have a plan and paperwork in order to help speed up getting the assistance you need. I usually try to get the patient back to the border ASAP if possible to be treated in their home country if possible.

BAJA.DESERT.RAT - 10-29-2015 at 09:21 PM

Hola ensenada dr.,

this is such an important topic, thank you.

people do casually travel into mexico, baja, as my son and i did for over 20 years without even thinking about any type of travel insurance. i am sure that people that fly into cabo, puerto vallarta, cancun and others have not even given a thought about what to do in case of an emergency and just depend on their carrier for any health situations.

i have heard of and spoken with a person in los barriles that had a heart problem and had to fork over over $ 100,000.00 TO HAVE HIS PROBLEM RESOLVED AND TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS FOR HIS INSURANCE TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF IT. SORRY ABOUT CAPS.

i spoke with my insurance, kaiser, and they said i need to pay for medical services in advance and i would be reimbursed after filing a claim with receipts. AND THEY DID PAY !

don't know if others have travel insurance but it is a very important topic.

thank you for starting this thread,

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT



micah202 - 10-30-2015 at 12:18 AM



.....personally I take something of an indigenous approach,,,
take some basic precautions, have some 'trust', but don't get wrapped up in the ''what if's?''
......... otherwise I'd never go further than Ensenada :(


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shari - 10-30-2015 at 08:02 AM

I get that and also live mostly by that approach Micah...but now that I have had to "pick up the sticks" of other people's lack of planning...I try to get at least our guests and expats who live in the village to have a plan...so that the person who has to deal with YOUR emergency will at least stand a chance of saving your life.

facilities list?

John M - 10-30-2015 at 09:03 AM

Maybe we can start a list of medical facilities available in the towns along Highway 1 - at least those that offer some level of emergency care? Perhaps along with comment.

TJ?
Ensenada?
San Quintin?

etc

We have only one experience with emergency care and that was in TJ 25 years ago and I have no recollection except I received decent and stabilizing care for injuries sustained in a car accident, sufficient to get us to San Diego.

John M

CaboMagic - 10-30-2015 at 09:09 AM

This is a very important issue!

Ten days ago I posted about the company Global Rescue www.GlobalRescue.com -- It may or may not be the same or similar to www.SkyMed.com

Dealing with necessary details of - and making decision for others situations is something not wished on anyone. Its difficult enough figuring out ones own ..

edited for spelling



[Edited on 10-30-2015 by CaboMagic]

Udo - 10-30-2015 at 09:37 AM

With my personal medical problems, I REALLY had to make a plan for emergency medical attention.

When we went to BA last month, I went through some serious anxieties after leaving Mama Espinoza's in El Rosario.

What if was in my head.

So while in BA, we worked on a plan, including evacuations.

That is the reason we decided to full-time it in Ensenada, and use our dream place in BA as our resort getaway, while the place is for sale or rent. Jana and I kept thinking of how lucky we were to have such a beautiful place to vacation and watch sunsets daily. The detoxifying and relaxation of the front porch is such a healing factor.

StuckSucks - 10-30-2015 at 09:53 AM

I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.

dtbushpilot - 10-30-2015 at 10:02 AM

We have GlobalRescue but haven't used it yet so I can't say how it works in reality. I'm also a member of Binational Emergency, they have my insurance info and emergency contact info and would be the ones to get the ball rolling in case of an emergency. I have dealt with Celia Diaz at Binational in an actual evacuation incident and highly recommend their organization.

mtgoat666 - 10-30-2015 at 10:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by micah202  


.....personally I take something of an indigenous approach,,,
take some basic precautions, have some 'trust', but don't get wrapped up in the ''what if's?''
......... otherwise I'd never go further than Ensenada :(


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That's the "dont worry, be happy" travel isurance policy sold by Inshallah LLC insurers

micah202 - 10-30-2015 at 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by micah202  


.....personally I take something of an indigenous approach,,,
take some basic precautions, have some 'trust', but don't get wrapped up in the ''what if's?''
......... otherwise I'd never go further than Ensenada :(
.


That's the "dont worry, be happy" travel isurance policy sold by Inshallah LLC insurers


....ahh,,wouldn't go that far...more like trust in god but tie up your horse, camel.
...some basic insurance, a lot of mindfulness to situations, and a proactive, intuitive approach to health issues.

..it's worked so far. :)


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DianaT - 10-30-2015 at 11:01 AM

If you are traveling as a married couple, you might want to carry a certified copy of your marriage license in case one of you dies.

We never thought about it until this year when our friend died and his wife had to have the marriage license to claim the body.

woody with a view - 10-30-2015 at 11:53 AM

^^^good info!^^^

Udo - 10-30-2015 at 01:03 PM

After reading several posts here regarding the marriage lic. We are now carrying a copy of it. I am still working on my birth certificate from Wolfratshausen Germany, since my original one burned up in our house fire in the U.S. (It is a enecessity if one dies in Mexico, I read that in a mainland Mexico bulletin board.)

woody with a view - 10-30-2015 at 01:07 PM

i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.

TMW - 10-30-2015 at 02:33 PM

OK here is information on medical facilities in Baja. I got this from other people therefore I don't know how up to date or accurate it is.












way to go TW!

John M - 10-30-2015 at 02:44 PM

Great stuff TW - I bet you've had that with us on all of our trips!

Now maybe we will solicit updates for these lists, if needed.

John M

bajaguy - 10-30-2015 at 03:21 PM

Not if you die in Mexico
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.

bajaguy - 10-30-2015 at 03:24 PM

Not if you die in Mexico
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.

bajaguy - 10-30-2015 at 03:51 PM

Not if you die in Mexico
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.

micah202 - 10-30-2015 at 05:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Not if you die in Mexico

Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.



...yer can say that again :)

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woody with a view - 10-30-2015 at 05:25 PM

why would i need a birth cert to prove citizenship when it isn't required to enter the country? do they want to see a birth cert to give a death cert? that's stupid!

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 07:45 AM

Yes Woody but if someone dies and you have to deal with a Mexican Funeral Home then they want a birth certificate along with a marriage certificate and 2 witnesses with ID's. I signed a death certificate in Medio Camino last week and the funeral home came to the home to pick up the deceased and that is what the department of health in Mexico requires.
Quote: Originally posted by woody with a view  
i don't understand the birth cert. if you have a passport or card that should prove your citizenship.




[Edited on 11-11-2015 by EnsenadaDr]

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 07:50 AM

I have encouraged time and time again for all legal residents of Mexico to get Seguro Popular. The Mexican health system however will n not turn away a victim of trauma or catastrophic illness. I saw a person last week get stabilized with no ID and no insurance at Rosarito General Hospital but they had run into some snags so all of you legal residents of Mexico get Seguro Popular. Please search the threads here for more information I have written about this several times.
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
While we are talking about this Dr. What is a good Medical Ins to get in Ensanada.For full timer.

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 08:01 AM

Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 08:07 AM

Thank you all for your great responses. This might get the gears rolling in people's heads about making a plan for them. I want to add that the Funeral Homes in Mexico will translate your required American documents for a fee. I dealt with San Ramon Funeraria last week and it was a very professional experience. Please people get a local Mexican physician that will sign your death certificate otherwise the body can end up at the morgue for weeks. Thanks so much for the lists of medical contacts as well.
Quote: Originally posted by DianaT  
If you are traveling as a married couple, you might want to carry a certified copy of your marriage license in case one of you dies.

We never thought about it until this year when our friend died and his wife had to have the marriage license to claim the body.

bajaguy - 11-11-2015 at 08:15 AM

http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/
Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 08:26 AM

this should be a requirement for all travelers in Baja. Thank you BajaGuy.
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.

rts551 - 11-11-2015 at 08:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
this should be a requirement for all travelers in Baja. Thank you BajaGuy.
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


why. That is silly. The tourist who goes to Cabo for a week should have to have this?

bajaguy - 11-11-2015 at 08:50 AM

One will be issued when you get your FMM
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
this should be a requirement for all travelers in Baja. Thank you BajaGuy.
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


why. That is silly. The tourist who goes to Cabo for a week should have to have this?

EnsenadaDr - 11-11-2015 at 08:54 AM

really? Gary Patton was just doing a quick trip probably a week from Orange County, and he was alone.
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
this should be a requirement for all travelers in Baja. Thank you BajaGuy.
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


why. That is silly. The tourist who goes to Cabo for a week should have to have this?

TMW - 11-11-2015 at 09:01 AM

Remember the guy from Bakersfield who hit his head while sliding down a rope swing in Cabo. I don't recall what they actually call it. Last year I think. His hospital bill for the hospital in Cabo was $50,000. His family and friends have been holding fund raisers to pay it off. He is doing much better last I heard.

mtgoat666 - 11-11-2015 at 09:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
this should be a requirement for all travelers in Baja. Thank you BajaGuy.
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=100

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/


Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
Wow was looking for something that could prevent another Gary Patton tragedy from happening. Can you elaborate on how to sign up for this?
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!

bajaguy - 11-11-2015 at 09:26 AM

If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!

mtgoat666 - 11-11-2015 at 09:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?

bajaguy - 11-11-2015 at 09:40 AM

Since you are so interested why don't you fire off a message to SPOT and find out. We all will be awaiting your reply

I myself believe them more than you
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?

mtgoat666 - 11-11-2015 at 09:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Since you are so interested why don't you fire off a message to SPOT and find out. We all will be awaiting your reply

I myself believe them more than you


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?


You are doing a poor job of selling spot! Spot does a poor job of selling spot. I believe it does work well in USA where it is easy to call the local police, coast guard, etc. but does spot even have a telenumber for the police in catavina? How does spot activate first responders in remote Baja? Won't the cops just wait until some relative shows up to provide gas money to travel to the locations?

Spot may be ok to alert your friends that you need help, and your friends can come rescue you,... Spot should not suggest there are SAR services in remote Baja that will be dispatched after spot 911 call

bajaguy - 11-11-2015 at 09:56 AM

I don't have to sell SPOT, it sells itself

And it is very apparent from your reply that you don't have a clue how SAR works in the US or anywhere else.

PS: Spot won't call anybody in Catavina, they will call Mexico MRCC
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
Since you are so interested why don't you fire off a message to SPOT and find out. We all will be awaiting your reply

I myself believe them more than you


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
If you look at the map and do an enlargement you will see they have documented "rescues" all over Baja


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Over 3,500 rescues and counting

http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/

I doubt anybody can provide evidence of spot organizing and leading a rescue in remote Mexico. Somebody please do a test, go to Catavina and press spot 911 and wait for Lassie to show up. Woof, woof!


Dots on a map? Anybody can sprinkle dots on a map. How about a real story about spot leading the rescue in remote Baja? I noticed the dots are not clickable, if they were real you would think spot would allow you to click on a dot to read the story, eh?


You are doing a poor job of selling spot! Spot does a poor job of selling spot. I believe it does work well in USA where it is easy to call the local police, coast guard, etc. but does spot even have a telenumber for the police in catavina? How does spot activate first responders in remote Baja? Won't the cops just wait until some relative shows up to provide gas money to travel to the locations?

Spot may be ok to alert your friends that you need help, and your friends can come rescue you,... Spot should not suggest there are SAR services in remote Baja that will be dispatched after spot 911 call

TMW - 11-11-2015 at 02:35 PM

I don't know specifically who Spot would notify in Mexico it probably depends on the location, out in the middle of nowhere or near a town. But the SOS message goes to who ever the Spot owner puts on the list. So who ever is on the list will get the message and I'm sure they would be calling to see who does what and when regardless of what Spot does.

TMW - 11-11-2015 at 02:45 PM

Do a Google search for GEOS International Emergency Response Coordination Center and you will get a better ideal of how it works.

bajatrailrider - 11-12-2015 at 09:30 AM

Spot does work.Few years ago true story.We where up over 50 miles.In forest dirt road.Pick up truck rolled,Badly injured driver.One rider hit Spot.In one hour,red cross ambulance.With Police escort.

Alm - 12-23-2015 at 12:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Spot does work.Few years ago true story.We where up over 50 miles.In forest dirt road.Pick up truck rolled,Badly injured driver.One rider hit Spot.In one hour,red cross ambulance.With Police escort.

There are no "forest dirt roads" in Baja :)

"up over 50 miles" from what - from a city of 1 million people or from a puebla of 1 thousand?

Oh boy, what a stupid topic all the way... A catchy heading, opened it hoping to find something new (to me), but things like "Will GPS work in your location" should've warned me up front. Jeez... Have been using GPS since before they started installing it in passenger cars and cell phones. All you need for a GPS is a clear view of the sky, nothing else. SPOT 911 button works the same way as PLB on aircraft or ship, it merely reports your location to certain center, and then it goes down the chain of command, will somebody come looking for you and when - depends where you are. Keep your fingers crossed that it will "report", i.e. that the message will go out and won't get lost, as this device, unlike PLB, is using an email protocol and emails do get lost as you all know.

You don't need a SPOT or Global Rescue plan when your appendix ruptures in BA or BOLA. You don't need a rescue when you're sick in your home. Instead, you need to get to a faraway hospital FAST. There are NO subscription plans that will guarantee this.

Merry Christmas kids, Don't worry - be happy...

[Edited on 12-23-2015 by Alm]

pacificobob - 12-23-2015 at 09:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
I have the global "come get me" insurance with my SPOT Tracker. Worse-case, I can hit the 911 button and wait for people to arrive.


does spot have testimonials from folks extracted from remote locations? i have wondered if i would see a helicopter come for me as i lay in the dirt under my motorcycle , after punching the 911 button. its nice to think they would, but i wonder how it really comes down,in real world apps.

bajaguy - 12-23-2015 at 09:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  


does spot have testimonials from folks extracted from remote locations? i have wondered if i would see a helicopter come for me as i lay in the dirt under my motorcycle , after punching the 911 button. its nice to think they would, but i wonder how it really comes down,in real world apps.





http://www.findmespot.com/en/spotemergency/?refer=FrontpageB...

TMW - 12-23-2015 at 09:30 AM

Who Spot or more specifically the GEOS International Emergency Response Coordination Center contacts depends on where you are located. If in the U.S. in a city the local 911 or police. If out of the city usually the county sheriff is contacted. If in Baja again it would depend on where you are located.

First off they don't know what your emergency is until they get to the scene. Then they can determine what help is needed. Spot provides the coordinates of where you are at.

In the U.S. if you call 911 from a home phone (not a cell phone) the 911 operator will know where you are calling from. If you call 911 from a smart phone they sometimes can get the coordinates but not all 911 centers are capable of doing so. It also depends on how the local 911 system is setup. There was a recent situation in Delano CA where a high school boy had a heart attack during gym class and when someone at the school called 911 it was routed to Canada and they called the local police in Delano who then called the fire dept. It was several minutes before help arrived and the boy died.

If you are far away from any services it can takes hours or more for help to arrive whether using a spot, cell phone, smart phone or satellite phone.

motoged - 12-23-2015 at 11:50 AM

Right now my emergency plan is to stay away from the shopping malls, make sure I have enough rum and eggnog, limes, tequila, and cointreau....and park on the couch, play guitar, watch some movies on tv, shovel the drive and walk, and peruse Baja Nomades a few times each day.

Repeat for a week or so, and then rejoin the world and its madness.

Feliz Navidad :saint:

nomana - 6-6-2016 at 09:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by EnsenadaDr  
I have encouraged time and time again for all legal residents of Mexico to get Seguro Popular. The Mexican health system however will n not turn away a victim of trauma or catastrophic illness. I saw a person last week get stabilized with no ID and no insurance at Rosarito General Hospital but they had run into some snags so all of you legal residents of Mexico get Seguro Popular. Please search the threads here for more information I have written about this several times.
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
While we are talking about this Dr. What is a good Medical Ins to get in Ensanada.For full timer.


Seguro Popular is a good service. I plan on signing up once I land. I know Baja is a world all it's own, but here is a link that may be helpful for those interested in the free medical care offered in Mexico: Mexican Healthcare

Thank you TMW for the info.

dizzyspots - 6-7-2016 at 10:35 AM

As a first step for ANY travel...not just Baja, leave a travel plan (like an aircraft flight plan) with a reliable family member or friend at home. Listing a description of your vehicle, incl lic plate number, travel plans incl departure date, route of travel and expected return date...contact info at your destination and SPOT.

As an EMS provider for over 40 years, its amazing how many rescues are started with..."Bob went 4 wheeling on Sat morning...we havent heard from him (its now Sun afternoon)..." where would you start looking????


The new SPOT's with a smartphone provide 2 way data and there is an optional $100K evac plan...we've carried one since our 1st trip in 07 and have taken it with us on all domestic and Baja travels....
I reached out to the folks at SPOT for some Baja specific info...I'll let ya know what their reply is...

Mike

SPOT

bajaguy - 6-7-2016 at 11:00 AM

I use SPOT tracker with the SAR and Evac

Can designate family/friends to "track" and "Help" functions

Command Center and family/friends on "911" function

Carry an expanded first aid kit

4x4abc - 6-7-2016 at 12:16 PM

see the feedback on Amazon before you buy a SPOT (there are better options on the market anyway):
"Yes there are a LOT of fees. Look it up on their website. I paid nearly $300 in contract and subscription fees just to get fed up with this grossly unreliable piece of junk and toss it into my saddlebag. If you want an electronic device to save you and bring the cavalry running, you're wasting your money on Spot. I bought it for my Alaska motorcycle trip. What a useless piece of junk. Always shutting off. Always disconnecting. DON'T BOTHER! And I'm an IT professional - I DO have a clue"

A 35% negative rating is BAD!

http://www.amazon.com/Spot-connect-smartphone-satellite-comm...

bajaguy - 6-7-2016 at 12:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
see the feedback on Amazon before you buy a SPOT (there are better options on the market anyway):
"Yes there are a LOT of fees. Look it up on their website. I paid nearly $300 in contract and subscription fees just to get fed up with this grossly unreliable piece of junk and toss it into my saddlebag. If you want an electronic device to save you and bring the cavalry running, you're wasting your money on Spot. I bought it for my Alaska motorcycle trip. What a useless piece of junk. Always shutting off. Always disconnecting. DON'T BOTHER! And I'm an IT professional - I DO have a clue"

A 35% negative rating is BAD!

http://www.amazon.com/Spot-connect-smartphone-satellite-comm...





Been using my SPOT for about 8 years now and never had a problem.
Never leave home without it.