BajaNomad

CB Radio for emergencies

AustA - 12-30-2015 at 09:33 AM

Hi nomads!
Been a while since I posted everything, getting ready for another visit to the wonderful land of Baja!

This year I'm bringing a CB radio, mostly for communication with the other vehicle that I will be traveling with (cant believe I havent had one before :?: ).

My question is how useful is a CB radio for off-road emergencies. Lets say I'm far from the highway, will I be able to use channel 9 to get help in a major emergency?

Any information would be useful. I read the information about the various CB channels used in Baja but didnt get a clear answer on if the CB can be used a fair distance from highway 1 for emergencies.

As always thanks so much for sharing your knowledge on this site!

chippy - 12-30-2015 at 10:38 AM

I think VHF is what most use there.

ncampion - 12-30-2015 at 10:46 AM

Agree, I think most people use VHF or GMRS radios now. Don't know anyone using CB any more, maybe truckers.

ehall - 12-30-2015 at 11:27 AM

Not much range either unless you got it hot-rodded

bajaguy - 12-30-2015 at 11:37 AM

Most anything discussed above is going to be line of sight or very short range at best.

if you want comms, a sat phone, if you need help/emergencies, a SPOT

DawnPatrol - 12-30-2015 at 11:43 AM

True, we use handheld VHF's for communications between vehicles on the highway
Is fairly good reception, but IMO a CB JUST for between vehicles would be better reception, but just to talk between vehicles.

The VHF is preferred by people because they also are dual purpose,used on the water so there is communications from boater to boater, and if there is an emergency on the water in some areas (like San Lucas Cove) people on shore are monitoring (sometimes)

But for true emergency have the sat phone or SPOT

I have a sat phone with the Global rescue and/or emergency transport

[Edited on 12-30-2015 by DawnPatrol]

David K - 12-30-2015 at 01:45 PM

CBs were always limited during sun spot and skip conditions, becoming so noisy that to hear a local radio, unless in a convoy with you, was impossible. We used them a lot in Baja, back in the 1970's. Talking to people back in America 'shooting skip' to other states was easier than talking to a local 5 miles away.

Cell Phones are the norm for roadside emergencies... but that mostly is in the Tijuana to Ensenada corridor.

Seriously, help comes along on all main roads. If you are off roading then the satellite phone or a DeLorme In Reach or a SPOT device are your only pretty sure ways of calling for emergency help.

[Edited on 12-30-2015 by David K]

PaulW - 12-30-2015 at 07:47 PM

At 5 watts do not expect to use a CB for anything except vehicle to vehicle. Typically in Baja a 25 to 110 watt VHF radios are mostly used. 50 watt VHS is typical for safety purposes. Even then line of sight is often compromised and prevents anybody from hearing your transmission.
Lately we have starting using MSAT unit to unit, which is a satellite radio system. Before that we used or at least carried a sat phone to call any phone or sat phone to sat phone.
Anyway the VHF 50 watt or even a 25 watt radio are the most popular and they work reasonably well. All you need is a list of frequencies.
Last of all I do not think I have even seen a CB radio in Baja.
And in the states I still use a CB. Primarily because of the fed regulations which means VHF is not legal without a special license.

[Edited on 12-31-2015 by PaulW]

Bajavanadu - 12-30-2015 at 09:22 PM

I'm a big fan of the delorme inreach, reasonably priced plans and in my experience it works better than a sat phone.

PaulW - 12-31-2015 at 05:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajavanadu  
I'm a big fan of the delorme inreach, reasonably priced plans and in my experience it works better than a sat phone.

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I am sure they work great from all reports, but not quite a radio or replacement for a CB

David K - 12-31-2015 at 06:00 PM

In Reach by DeLorm: It is nice that it allows two-way communications, works like texting or like email. That is not on the Spot device.


Gulliver - 12-31-2015 at 10:20 PM

Don't bother reading the comments in the evaluation area when you look at SPOT or Inreach sellers on the internet.

There are two categories of 'foamers' on there.

One group says that if you get in trouble you should just die if you can't rescue yourself. That it's irresponsible to ask for help. It's all your own fault.

The other group says that anything less than a full on satellite beacon with a paid international rescue plan that is instantly linked to the U.N. and NORAD is the only responsible setup.

The reality that i have discovered is that they all work and you get more stuff for more bucks.

The SPOT gets a lot of use because it is less expensive and meets the needs of more people. Not every need is to call for rescue. I happen to need a way to keep Barbara from fretting when I am delayed up in the dingleberries. With even the least expensive SPOT subscription I can send "I'm O.K." messages as well as tell the world I need a couple more levels of help. But it is a one way signal and even with the fact that the little bugger sends the message multiple times, there is no feedback to tell you if it got out. Most of the recorded complaints are from people who didn't read the manual. It has limitations.

The Inreach is two way. Much better but a lot more expensive.

As to radio use, unless you are near either a town where people monitor a VHF channel or are out fishing and monitor a locally agreed upon channel, radios are not that useful for emergencies.

I am a ham operator and I carry a small, low powered voice and morse code radio that operates on H.F. frequencies. If I am in any condition to get my wire thrown over a cardon or a boojum and twiddle a few knobs, I can raise enough stink to get someone to call my house and get the cavalry moving.

There is no code test for a U.S. license any more and the test isn't that hard at all. But it is a bunch of techie fiddling. I do it for fun.

If your just wanting to jabber a bit for fun and information, I don't think any cheap and simple two way radio solution exists for Baja once you are away from population centers. If it is really important for a possible disaster, you pay your money and take what you can afford.

[Edited on 1-1-2016 by Gulliver]