Bajalero - 1-24-2005 at 10:48 AM
Grover , that article caught my eye in the Sun. UT.
I have been involved with CV agriculture for close to 30 years.
Though there are hardships for some of the migrants , the real tragedy is how generations old farms have been affected by the bureaucratizing (sp?) of
farm labor.
The brasero program that once existed will never be duplicated or beat as far as cost effectiveness and was a simple win-win setup where everyone
benefited.
In the long run , Cesar Chavez will be shown to have done a lot more harm than good for his people. Striking and boycotts work where there is a
factory line and everything can be resumed at any time . But crops rot. On top of that I really can't think of any other group of Americans that you
wouldn't want to hold hostage over labor and wages than a farmer or rancher. Talk about screwing with the wrong people. -Just plain stupid.
Specialized mechanization is a direct result and it didn't just recently start. Just about all fruit and vegetable are rock hard to market now days
because of mechanical processing.
But on to the real issue . Now you have all these little central valley bergs,that are close to 100% mexican, populated by migrants who didn't return
home . They are refuges for the stream of un needed illegals and the problem continues to grow .
how dare C?sar Ch?vez fight to give farmworkers basic rights
BajaVida - 1-24-2005 at 09:24 PM
they don't need toilets or medical care (let the taxpayers and government provide that)
would the same be said if the workers were white?
Bruce R Leech - 1-24-2005 at 09:32 PM
Caesar Chavez is a radical dip sh.. that did more harm to the migrant worker and farmers alike than anyone.
[Edited on 1-25-2005 by Bruce R Leech]
burritomama - 1-25-2005 at 12:52 PM
hmm. well. deep breath here.
I have a lot to contribute on this topic but judging from the level of critical thinking and discourse, I don't know if this is the right audience to
address the wages, working conditions and other issues that Chavez and many others worked on --
historical note: I met Chavez, was arrested with him once -- and also cooked dinner for him one time. I admired much about him - perhaps at this
precise moment, I admire his abilty to discuss issues with opponents and not "lose" it - his inner resources of patience and quite confidence were
amazing.
I don't have that. Not many of us do. We lack respect for others and of course, in doing so, lose it for ourselves as we huff and puff. So I'll sign
off.