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Current contact info for reporting Tecate Police Rip Offs, please

Mula - 2-18-2016 at 04:34 PM

Appreciate current contact info, if possible for reporting Police Rip Offs in Tecate.

Thanks, in advance.

Bajahowodd - 2-18-2016 at 04:38 PM

Never had a single problem going though Tecate, and never had a problem down in Ciudad Constitution. Maybe good luck. I dunno.

Mula - 2-18-2016 at 04:47 PM

I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.

4x4abc - 2-18-2016 at 04:47 PM

not all smokers die

Lee - 2-18-2016 at 04:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajahowodd  
Never had a single problem going though Tecate, and never had a problem down in Ciudad Constitution. Maybe good luck. I dunno.


If people think they're lucky because they haven't had a problem, that's as logical as thinking if a person stops at every stop sign, or traffic lightc, they won't ever be stopped.

I expect to be stopped every time I drive through these towns. I never am but I expect it.

Lee - 2-18-2016 at 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
not all smokers die


Lots and lots of ways to die. Lung disease is not one of them.

Still, preparing mentally with names/numbers is a good strategy.

If most things are negotiable, it's possible that a lower ''fee'' was possible. Being denied a receipt or ticket means the cops bluffed and won.

monoloco - 2-18-2016 at 06:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
not all smokers die
Yes, they do eventually.

bajatrailrider - 2-18-2016 at 07:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
Appreciate current contact info, if possible for reporting Police Rip Offs in Tecate.

Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this.

Lee - 2-18-2016 at 07:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
Appreciate current contact info, if possible for reporting Police Rip Offs in Tecate.

Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this.


Which board of tourism and is there a number or contact?

Tecate

bajaguy - 2-18-2016 at 07:59 PM

I don't know how current this is, I have had it saved for a while. You might want to Google search

Aldrete Juan Marquez, President of the Committee for Public Safety Tecate

Canto Juan Bartolomé Lam, Director of Public Safety and Municipal Transit Tecate

Moon Omar Herrera, Criminal Judge in Tecate

President of the Commission of Tourism of the XXI Legislature, Deputy Marco Antonio Novelo Osuna

http://tecate.gob.mx/gobierno/


[Edited on 2-19-2016 by bajaguy]

woody with a view - 2-18-2016 at 08:02 PM

Sindicatura del Gobierno Municipal

mtgoat666 - 2-18-2016 at 08:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
Appreciate current contact info, if possible for reporting Police Rip Offs in Tecate.

Thanks, in advance.


Reporting is a waste of your time. The cops do what they do because they know they are mostly untouchable.

Udo - 2-18-2016 at 08:31 PM





:bounce::smug::spingrin::tumble::bounce:
Quote: Originally posted by Lee  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
not all smokers die


Lots and lots of ways to die. Lung disease is not one of them.

Still, preparing mentally with names/numbers is a good strategy.

If most things are negotiable, it's possible that a lower ''fee'' was possible. Being denied a receipt or ticket means the cops bluffed and won.

Mula - 2-19-2016 at 06:31 AM

Thanks. Got the Denucia page. Perfect. Will forward it on.

bajatrailrider - 2-19-2016 at 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
Appreciate current contact info, if possible for reporting Police Rip Offs in Tecate.

Thanks, in advance.


Reporting is a waste of your time. The cops do what they do because they know they are mostly untouchable.
Another post from no nothing that does not live in Mexico.Why don't you keep your no nothing comments to yourself. Here is what happened to,policeman in Question.After my complaint,He was taken to the police station(where he worked)Held there till we got there.After complaint filed.They said we can only hold him for 24 hours.You need go to Ensanada,to make complaint higher up.It was my decision,to have him loose his job,or not.This was all handled by broad of tourism.It is a very serous offense.For any police officer,to prey on a tourist. Do a search,on Board of tourism.They ended up calling me 3 more times,to make sure all went well.

larryC - 2-19-2016 at 10:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
not all smokers die


Yes they do. Just being born is a death sentence. Just some sooner than others.

JoeJustJoe - 2-19-2016 at 11:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.



Maybe you never had trouble with the police because you never did anything illegal.

Maybe, your neighbor's son, who allegedly got "shook down" did something illegal. Today most teen kids and young adults, are at least pot heads, engage in under age drinking, or sometimes they speed in their cars.

The parents are often the last to know.

It's been my experience witnessing a few Mexican shake down over the years,,often the shake down of the victims are at least a little guilty of their alleged crimes, otherwise they would put up a better fight resisting a shake down attempt, if they were truly not guilty of anything.

If a tourism board has power over the police, you would think they would already have any problem with corrupt police shake downs solved.
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  


Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this.


Bajatrailrider wrote: you mention you have proof. What proof do you have?

[Edited on 2-19-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

mtgoat666 - 2-19-2016 at 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.
________________
Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this



Maybe you never had trouble with the police because you never did anything illegal.

Maybe, your neighbor's son, who allegedly got "shook down" did something illegal. Today most teen kids and young adults, are at least pot heads, engage in under age drinking, or sometimes they speed in their cars.

The parents are often the last to know.

It's been my experience witnessing a few Mexican shake down over the years,,often the shake down of the victims are at least a little guilty of their alleged crimes, otherwise they would put up a better fight resisting a shake down attempt, if they were truly not guilty of anything.

If a tourism board has power over the police, you would think they would already have any problem with corrupt police shake downs solved.

Mula, you mention you have proof. What proof do you have?


I have suspected that crooked cops confine their shakedowns to drivers that committed a violation. It seems to me that cops are smart enough to not fleece a driver that did no wrong, and cops would have an easier time shaking down a driver that did wrong.
Joe, may be right that shakedown victims most times were pulled over for a real violation.

Udo - 2-19-2016 at 11:54 AM

I think is called a thread hijack (which did not work in this instance).
Quote: Originally posted by soulpatch  
Good lord, two of the most credible posters have chipped in on a thread that has nothing to do with what they are saying.

Devolution.

motoged - 2-19-2016 at 01:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.
________________
Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this



Mula, you mention you have proof. What proof do you have?



Mula didn't say that....bajatrailrider did.....re-read that post.....btr just entered his comment within M's post.....

DawnPatrol - 2-19-2016 at 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
not all smokers die


:lol:

Nice!
I have never met you but I like your style....

Alan from SD

TMW - 2-19-2016 at 02:53 PM

Here is some info I came across. Use the Sindicatura web site.

* If you feel you have been treated unfairly by a police officer get his badge number and license plate number and tell him you will be contacting the Sindicatura (seen-dee-kah-too-ra). In most cases if you are clearly in the right this will send the cop on his way. The Sindicatura investigate corrupt police officers.

If you have a complaint against a police officer or other city official, you can contact the City of Tijuana Internal Affairs at 688-2810, 24 hours a day. You can also register your complaint, in person at City Hall, or via the Internet at the following address: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/
complaints/index.asp
USA Consulate in Cabo:
Consular Agent in Cabo San Lucas
(An extension of the Consulate in Tijuana)
Blvd. Marina Local C-4
Plaza Nautica
Centro
Cabo San
Lucas, B.C.S. 23410
Monday-Friday: 9:00 a.m.-2:00 p.m.
Phone: [52] (624) 143-3566,
Fax: [52] (624) 143-6750
E-Mail: usconsulcabo@yahoo.com

TMW - 2-19-2016 at 02:56 PM

From Discover Baja:

We know that being pulled over by a police officer while driving in a foreign country can be a scary experience. The most important thing is to remain calm, be respectful and know your rights. You may have heard stories about people being pulled over and having to give a “mordida” (bribe) to the cop because they were worried they were going to be thrown into jail if they didn’t. Giving them money for a bribe is both unnecessary and illegal. The Baja Secretary of Tourism and the Mexican government are on your side and want the police to stop this behavior, but they rely on help from tourists to report the problem and to stop feeding into it by offering the cops bribes.

We’ve partnered with the Baja Secretary of Tourism to answer some of your questions about what to do if you’re pulled over, and we’ve put together a document for you to print out and keep in your car while driving in Baja. The printout outlines procedures for you to follow and also doubles as a document that you can show to the officer (there’s a section in Spanish) to let them know that you’re aware of your rights and will be reporting any misconduct to the Board of Tourism.

-If you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation, you should request a written citation from the officer. Traffic citations are written in both English and Spanish and will contain instruction on how to pay the fee. You can mail your fine to Mexico from the U.S.

-Never attempt to bribe or give money to the officer. It is both corrupt for them to ask for money and illegal for you to bribe a police officer. You can be fined and thrown in jail.

-In some cases, the officer will ask you to follow them to the police station. If you are being pulled over for a minor infraction, you are not required to go to the police station. Ask for the written citation and you can pay it by mail from the U.S.

-If you feel like you’ve been fined unfairly, take note of the time, location, vehicle identification number and badge number of the officer. You can contact the State Secretary of Tourism 24/7 by dialing 078 to report the information. If you’re a Discover Baja member, you can also email us at ask@discoverbaja.com with the above information and we will contact the Secretary of Tourism directly for you.

Download and print this document to keep in your glovebox and show to the officer if you’re pulled over.



Driving to Baja? Don’t forget your Mexican auto insurance! Discover Baja has the best rates and the highest-quality insurance. Visit www.discoverbajaonline.com or call 800-727-2252 for more information.

Mula - 2-19-2016 at 03:07 PM

Thank you all for your responses. I have copied and sent this to the people involved.

The guy was from Alberta towing a huge 5th wheel trailer heading north. The Police originally wanted $200 USD.

He would not go for that and went to the police station with the officer. This was last Sunday afternoon. There was only one other officer at the station and both officers had guns.

He negitiated them down to 1700 pesos. The officers took the guy to the ATM and waited while he got their 1700 pesos.

He asked for a receipt and a ticket. They said 'NO."

That's all I know. Thanks for your help.

larryC - 2-19-2016 at 04:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
From Discover Baja:

We know that being pulled over by a police officer while driving in a foreign country can be a scary experience. The most important thing is to remain calm, be respectful and know your rights. You may have heard stories about people being pulled over and having to give a “mordida” (bribe) to the cop because they were worried they were going to be thrown into jail if they didn’t. Giving them money for a bribe is both unnecessary and illegal. The Baja Secretary of Tourism and the Mexican government are on your side and want the police to stop this behavior, but they rely on help from tourists to report the problem and to stop feeding into it by offering the cops bribes.

We’ve partnered with the Baja Secretary of Tourism to answer some of your questions about what to do if you’re pulled over, and we’ve put together a document for you to print out and keep in your car while driving in Baja. The printout outlines procedures for you to follow and also doubles as a document that you can show to the officer (there’s a section in Spanish) to let them know that you’re aware of your rights and will be reporting any misconduct to the Board of Tourism.

-If you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation, you should request a written citation from the officer. Traffic citations are written in both English and Spanish and will contain instruction on how to pay the fee. You can mail your fine to Mexico from the U.S.

-Never attempt to bribe or give money to the officer. It is both corrupt for them to ask for money and illegal for you to bribe a police officer. You can be fined and thrown in jail.

-In some cases, the officer will ask you to follow them to the police station. If you are being pulled over for a minor infraction, you are not required to go to the police station. Ask for the written citation and you can pay it by mail from the U.S.

-If you feel like you’ve been fined unfairly, take note of the time, location, vehicle identification number and badge number of the officer. You can contact the State Secretary of Tourism 24/7 by dialing 078 to report the information. If you’re a Discover Baja member, you can also email us at ask@discoverbaja.com with the above information and we will contact the Secretary of Tourism directly for you.

Download and print this document to keep in your glovebox and show to the officer if you’re pulled over.



Driving to Baja? Don’t forget your Mexican auto insurance! Discover Baja has the best rates and the highest-quality insurance. Visit www.discoverbajaonline.com or call 800-727-2252 for more information.


Is there a link to the form mentioned above or just get the info requested and turn it in? I went to discoverbajaonline but did not see the form referred to.

[Edited on 2-19-2016 by larryC]

TMW - 2-19-2016 at 07:24 PM

Try this Larry.

http://www.discoverbaja.com/wp-content/uploads/TRAFFIC-VIOLA...

JoeJustJoe - 2-19-2016 at 08:10 PM

The "Sindicatura gob.mx" website used to say, "click" English" and then they had an area where you could send your written complaint to the "Sindicatura" in Tijuana.

However, everybody that I know including myself, that has actually sent in a complaint, never received a reply back from the "Sindicatura," you will have more luck calling them on the phone, or better yet filing your complaint in person. You should have the name of the alleged corrupt cop, badge number, and/or police car number if possible.

Many Baja forum, at least four or five forums going back many years, have also advocated either getting a business card from the "Sindicatura" or printing out some kind of "Sindicatura" bumper stickers, label, or card and either posting it on your vehicle, or keeping in your wallet and taking out the Sindicatura" card when you're approached by a corrupt Mexican cop.

So yes, there are a few American tourists, who use the "Sindicatura" card or sticker the same way possible victims use a Christian cross to ward off vampires.

I have heard of both successful and unsuccessful stories using the Sindicatura card as some type of apotropaic magic amulet, when coming face to face with a corrupt cop looking for a bribe.



joerover - 2-19-2016 at 08:29 PM

I once asked a tijuana police man for a photo
no para mi, para sindicatura. My money went back in my pocket and out of his. He kept 400 pesos or so, but I got 2,000 back. Tijuana police really rob people. I stopped going to Ensenada, because of bandidos con placas. Are they still getting worse every year.
Has anyone ever visited Mexico without getting robbed by a government employe?

I do not drive into Mexico.
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Here is some info I came across. Use the Sindicatura web site.

* If you feel you have been treated unfairly by a police officer get his badge number and license plate number and tell him you will be contacting the Sindicatura (seen-dee-kah-too-ra). In most cases if you are clearly in the right this will send the cop on his way. The Sindicatura investigate corrupt police officers.

If you have a complaint against a police officer or other city official, you can contact the City of Tijuana Internal Affairs at 688-2810, 24 hours a day. You can also register your complaint, in person at City Hall, or via the Internet at the following address: http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/
complaints/index.asp
USA Consulate in Cabo:
Consular Agent in Cabo San Lucas
(An extension of the Consulate in Tijuana)
Blvd. Marina Local C-4
Plaza Nautica
Centro
Cabo San
Lucas, B.C.S. 23410
Monday-Friday: 9:00 a.m.-2:00 p.m.
Phone: [52] (624) 143-3566,
Fax: [52] (624) 143-6750
E-Mail: usconsulcabo@yahoo.com

joerover - 2-19-2016 at 08:34 PM

every time they fix a leak a new one springs up

heroin is the reason why
when the real problem is addressed the problem will get better

until then the tourists will continue to get robbed buy police

bajatrailrider - 2-19-2016 at 10:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by Mula  
I never had a problem with either place - either.
But a neighbor's son just got shook down Sunday afternoon in Tecate for 1700 pesos - and no ticket and no receipt.



Maybe you never had trouble with the police because you never did anything illegal.

Maybe, your neighbor's son, who allegedly got "shook down" did something illegal. Today most teen kids and young adults, are at least pot heads, engage in under age drinking, or sometimes they speed in their cars.

The parents are often the last to know.

It's been my experience witnessing a few Mexican shake down over the years,,often the shake down of the victims are at least a little guilty of their alleged crimes, otherwise they would put up a better fight resisting a shake down attempt, if they were truly not guilty of anything.

If a tourism board has power over the police, you would think they would already have any problem with corrupt police shake downs solved.
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  


Thanks, in advance. Report them to board of tourism,They have power over the police.That the police don't want to deal with. I have proof of this.


Bajatrailrider wrote: you mention you have proof. What proof do you have? My proof,come here to the police station.I can have the police explain it to you.Would that be proof? Im only trying to help this person.If the police took a bribe,you report it.Trust me things happen to him.

[Edited on 2-19-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

David K - 2-19-2016 at 11:59 PM

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