BajaNomad - Aus Kingfish=Yellowtail?

Aus Kingfish=Yellowtail?

chuckie - 4-10-2016 at 04:18 PM

Is the fish the Ozzies call a Kingfish and sometimes a Yellowtail, the same species as we catch in Baja?

MMc - 4-10-2016 at 04:25 PM

YEP! they get really big too.

AKgringo - 4-10-2016 at 04:34 PM

Along the same line of fish ID, is the fish we call a Wahoo the same as a King Mackerel elsewhere?

MMc - 4-10-2016 at 04:40 PM

Link to kingfish in NZ.
http://www.fishingkites.co.nz/articles/catching-kingfish.htm
Wahoo are not the same fish.

chuckie - 4-10-2016 at 05:10 PM

MMc, Thanks...We thought so We have been trying to decide on a fishing destination...Back to Costa Rica or elsewhere..Looks like New Zealand...

Skipjack Joe - 4-11-2016 at 07:19 AM

King Mackerel - Scomberomorus cavalla

Wahoo - Acanthocybium solandri

Skipjack Joe - 4-11-2016 at 07:25 AM

Both New Zealand kingfish and California yellowtail are Seriola lalandi.

chuckie - 4-11-2016 at 07:27 AM

Does she have a sister?

Skipjack Joe - 4-11-2016 at 07:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

Does she have a sister?

Amberjack.

chuckie - 4-11-2016 at 08:13 AM

I think I Knew that..and where does the "madrigal' fit...?? Is it an amberjack as well? We were catching a lot of them in Mulege...

DawnPatrol - 4-11-2016 at 12:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

Both New Zealand kingfish and California yellowtail are Seriola lalandi.

Joe, not quite right......

NZ Yellowtail: Seriola lalandi lalandi
Baja Yellowtail: Seriola lalandi dorsalis
Asian Yellowtail: Seriola lalandi aureovitta

Slight difference.....

The NZ Kingies are more shaped like tunas, and can weigh over 100#
Caught a few 40-65# Kingies on a trip to White Island and the Ranfurly banks a couple years back.

My Fishing Club would not honor my weight receipts because the fish ARE different than Baja/CA yellows, although very minor, the Kingies are truly Kings

Respectfully yours, Alan from San Diego

Skipjack Joe - 4-11-2016 at 01:42 PM

Alen

The question asked is whether they are the same species. And they are. The differences you show are at the subspecies level.

FYI. Different subspecies belonging to the same species will mate successfully.

I looked at their global distribution and the main populations occur in 3 places: here, aust/newzealand, South Africa. How is a single species stay pure with so much water in between. Your comment provided the answer. They're speciating, evolving into separate species but it's likely that some gene mixing is still occurring.

woody with a view - 4-11-2016 at 02:03 PM

My localSeafood city sells Japanese yellowtail which is usually around 5 pounds and is identical to the west coast version.

chuckie - 4-11-2016 at 02:06 PM

Farmed...

DawnPatrol - 4-12-2016 at 10:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

Alen

The question asked is whether they are the same species. And they are. The differences you show are at the subspecies level.

FYI. Different subspecies belonging to the same species will mate successfully.

I looked at their global distribution and the main populations occur in 3 places: here, aust/newzealand, South Africa. How is a single species stay pure with so much water in between. Your comment provided the answer. They're speciating, evolving into separate species but it's likely that some gene mixing is still occurring.

yep, you are right

woody with a view - 4-12-2016 at 11:28 AM

West coast variant 34lbs.

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chuckie - 4-12-2016 at 11:49 AM

woody with a view - 4-12-2016 at 11:56 AM

Wow!

chuckie - 4-12-2016 at 12:36 PM

That's what ALL the girls say...We are really looking forward to New Zealand...Fishing in Zane Grey territory! Thanks woody

Pacifico - 4-12-2016 at 06:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

That's a fat YT! What did you get him on?

chuckie - 4-12-2016 at 06:44 PM

I think that one was on a Mirrolure....

tripledigitken - 4-12-2016 at 06:45 PM

Pacificos

Pacifico - 4-12-2016 at 06:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

I think that one was on a Mirrolure....

It's great when those big ones are up top!

chuckie - 4-12-2016 at 06:46 PM

We did...

Pacifico - 4-12-2016 at 06:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by tripledigitken

Pacificos

They are ALL caught on Pacificos! Or....some kind of beer!

chuckie - 4-12-2016 at 06:59 PM

Not so...no alchohol on my boats..after YES...