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Baja Del Mar (Rosarito) property dispute

rts551 - 7-5-2016 at 11:07 AM

According to the some home owners on facebook, the Homeowners in Baja Del Mar in Rosarito have lost their court case and are being evicted from the properties. Apparently the original owner sold the property twice. Claimed loss: $500k per house. Most owners expats from the USA.

willardguy - 7-5-2016 at 11:26 AM

what a mess! and one of the nicest campo's here......:no:

Hook - 7-5-2016 at 12:05 PM

Court cases in Mexico are rarely decided on the merits of the case. Deeper pockets win!

One would think it would be very easy to prove that a landowner sold a property twice. How did it get past the notarios, the bank trust departments, etc.?

rts551 - 7-5-2016 at 12:09 PM

Fraude a Residentes del Fraccionamiento Baja del Mar.

Juez federal ordena desalojo de todo un fraccionamiento

* Los residentes del fraccionamiento han vivido ahí por más de 20 años, entre ellos nacionales y extranjeros.

* Por el fideicomiso pagaron más de 300 mil dólares y ahora están a punto de perder sus casas y el valor de su inversión.

Playas de Rosarito, Baja California, 4 de Julio 2016. -La sentencia del juez federal es concreta. Ordena darle posesión de los terrenos, del fraccionamiento Baja del Mar, al de nombre Julio Antonio Ochoa Zepeda. Así lo ordenó el titular del Juzgado Segundo de Distrito en Materia de Amparo y de Juicios Federales en el Estado de Baja California, con residencia en Tijuana. La orden judicial pone en riesgo la propiedad de predios y de un número similar de familias que ahora están a punto de perder su patrimonio.

El fraccionamiento en cuestión está en la costa de Rosarito, exactamente frente al Centro de Convenciones, por su ubicación se convirtió en uno de los predios más codiciados por su valor comercial. De hecho, el proyecto de inversión para instalar el parque de diversiones Six Flags requiere de un estacionamiento, solamente puede lograrse al desalojar y derrumbar todas las casas de dicho fraccionamiento en litigio.

La mayoría de las personas que ahí residen son personas norteamericanas, en calidad de retiradas y en las más de las veces pertenecen a la tercera edad. De acuerdo a la versión de los afectados por la acción de juez federal, ellos compraron asegurándoles que no había ningún problema con la tierra.
Sin embargo es otro hecho que se suma a los despojos que realizan con alguna ayuda de la autoridad, uno a uno se van sumando los casos, todos injustos y que dejan en estado de indefensión a los agraviados.

El más grave y sonado fue el de Lengüeta Arenosa, en Ensenada, donde elementos de la Policía Federal Preventiva (PFP) participaron en el cumplimiento de desalojo de todos los residentes de aquel lugar, fue una situación que estuvo a punto de conflicto internacional por el número de afectados. En el caso de Rosarito, sin lugar a dudas será otro hecho que afectará las inversiones y al mercado inmobiliario que orienta la venta de departamentos, casas y predios a un sector extranjero. Kasey Cooney tomó la voz en defensa de su propio derecho, otros residentes también comentaron a este medio que están dispuestos a vender sus propiedades si se les paga el valor justo.

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.

El origen del conflicto

Roberto Vallín otorgó las posesiones, luego por problemas económicos hipotecó el terreno donde nacionales y extranjeros ya construían sus casas. El plan era constituir un fideicomiso para dotar de legalidad y certeza jurídica a los que construían su patrimonio, sin embargo Julio Antonio Ochoa Zepeda compró la deuda, de hecho compró los lotes en un remate.

Ante el problema social, Ochoa Zepeda llegó al acuerdo de hacer un fideicomiso con los residentes, en total tuvieron que pagar 300 mil dólares a efectos que ellos pudieran hacer los trámites necesarios para la cesión de derechos.

Supuestamente ya todo había quedado legal. En el Registro Público de la Propiedad aparece el nombre de Julio Antonio Ochoa Zepeda, quien cometiendo fraude inició una serie de trámites para quedarse con todas las propiedades asentadas en dicho fraccionamiento.

De esta manera Ochoa Zepeda solicitó un amparo al juez del Juzgado Segundo de Distrito en Materia de Amparo para lograr la posesión de la propiedad y este se la concedió, ordenando al Juez de Rosarito que se le fuera entregada la famosa posesión.

Cabe decir que el juez en materia civil de Playas Rosarito intentó disuadir al Juez Federal, porque en lo local se ventila el juicio pero no fue posible convencer al juez federal, ante la orden federal los residentes enfrentan un desalojo masivo sin sustento de justicia.

En caso de poder lograr la nulidad de la orden judicial, al mismo tiempo enfrentan otro juicio con el Ejido Mazatlán, que también reclama el predio como suyo.
Al comprar terrenos, la historia se vuelve a repetir para los extranjeros, los dejan que construyan sus hogares para luego despojarles con la mano en la cintura.

Antecedentes

El 30 de octubre del año 2000, se ejecutó la orden de la Suprema Corte de Justicia de la Nación (SCJN) que ordenó restituir 18 hectáreas a favor de Purúa Punta Estero S. A., donde se perdieron 200 hogares de extranjeros por valor de casi medio millón de dólares cada uno.

En aquel entonces, el representante consular de los Estados Unidos de América en Baja California, Richard Rodríguez, actuó a favor de sus nacionales, pero con un irrestricto respeto a las leyes mexicanas, pero el Departamento de Estado recomendó retirarse pero a sus connacionales los llamó “víctimas de una disputa entre dos grupos mexicanos por la tenencia de la tierra”.

SFandH - 7-5-2016 at 01:28 PM

Does the article say a Six Flags Amusement Park is going to be built?

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.



[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]

LancairDriver - 7-5-2016 at 02:19 PM

The homeowners should check and see if one of the Cartels would be interested in taking the case.

rts551 - 7-5-2016 at 02:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Does the article say a Six Flags Amusement Park is going to be built?

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.



[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]


Yes, and apparently they want this land for a parking lot.

DENNIS - 7-5-2016 at 02:53 PM



Punta Banda redux. Careful who you trust out there.

SFandH - 7-5-2016 at 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Does the article say a Six Flags Amusement Park is going to be built?

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.



[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]


Yes, and apparently they want this land for a parking lot.


A google search returns some news articles about the six flags project, all pretty much the same. I wonder if the die has been cast or if it's still all talk.

https://www.google.com.mx/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&...

Looks like it's boom time in the TJ - Ensenada corridor once again. Like it was before the drug wars and recession. I noticed a sign on the new condo development at the Real Del Mar exit just south of TJ that all the condos are sold.

There's money out there. Hope the homeowners who are battling eviction get a good buck if they have to go.

[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]

Terry28 - 7-5-2016 at 04:25 PM

Wonder if "El mano negro " is involved?...it's just his style....

DENNIS - 7-5-2016 at 04:32 PM


Some of the evicted owners in Punta Banda continued to be bled by attorneys who made big promises.
All of the tenants got zero.
I see no difference in these situations.

SFandH - 7-5-2016 at 04:40 PM

Did the owners at Punta Banda have fideicomisos? How about these folks at Baja Del Mar?

Udo - 7-5-2016 at 06:42 PM

Perhaps the point should be who do WE trust out there?
Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS  


Punta Banda redux. Careful who you trust out there.

David K - 7-5-2016 at 06:47 PM

Never buy property in Mexico that would devastate you to walk away from... I had been told by many, many who have and have learned that lesson.

DENNIS - 7-5-2016 at 06:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Did the owners at Punta Banda have fideicomisos?




There were some in Punta Banda who had a fideicomiso and they lost everything. A few years back I had an opportunity to have a very brief conversation with one of the evicting principals. I began our discussion with, "What about those with fidis?"
His reply....."Well.....you see....there are different types of fideicomiso." It was like, "Here's what happened" in ten words. It was an orchestrated scheme.

DENNIS - 7-5-2016 at 06:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  


Perhaps the point should be who do WE trust out there?




Just don't put yourself in a position where you have to rely on trust. Due diligence is your responsibility.

wessongroup - 7-5-2016 at 07:08 PM

Dittos and that is a very difficult task in Baja ... just saying

[Edited on 7-6-2016 by wessongroup]

willardguy - 7-5-2016 at 07:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Does the article say a Six Flags Amusement Park is going to be built?

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.



[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]


Yes, and apparently they want this land for a parking lot.


beautiful oceanfront property earmarked for a parking lot on the other side of the road?? that doesn't make any sense?

fishbuck - 7-5-2016 at 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Never buy property in Mexico that would devastate you to walk away from... I had been told by many, many who have and have learned that lesson.


I hear this stated ocassionally.
Baja is always a gamble. It's a modern day wildwest with all the risks that come with it.
I have seen great sucesses and astonishing failures and the wasn't alot of difference between the 2 in some cases about what the people did differently.
I have alot of my eggs in my particular basket. I'm betting the farm as they say.
As I said when I started this it is either the smartest thing I'v ever done of the dumbest. And I won't know until it's over.
You can research it diligently and never have all the info you need unless your are a mexican lawyer with time and access to every record everywhere.
So go live in a trailer on lease land or try and buy a niece piece of land and build yourself a decent place to live.
You guys know I lost my boat. I did all the paperwork so there was no great loss. But I was emotionally devastated forsure and I'm still licking my wounds.
I needed to take a bit of risk and it should have been ok. But I couldn't sleep in it. I needed to work etc.
I pushed a bit too hard and lesson learned.
Get as much info as possible and make your decision.
And good luck to you. Follow your dream.







[Edited on 7-6-2016 by fishbuck]

rts551 - 7-5-2016 at 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Does the article say a Six Flags Amusement Park is going to be built?

Entre sus investigaciones, los residentes encontraron que sus lotes, los terrenos de sus casas se convertirán en el patio del Parque Six Flags.



[Edited on 7-5-2016 by SFandH]


Yes, and apparently they want this land for a parking lot.


beautiful oceanfront property earmarked for a parking lot on the other side of the road?? that doesn't make any sense?


Actually it does. For places like six flags, parking is valuable property.

Hook - 7-6-2016 at 06:16 AM

Fishbuck, please share with us the story of the loss of your boat, if it is a lesson that we should know.

carlosg - 7-6-2016 at 08:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
Fishbuck, please share with us the story of the loss of your boat, if it is a lesson that we should know.



YES...!!! but please open a NEW TOPIC... this one is very interesting and important by itself....muchas gracias!!!

carlosg - 7-6-2016 at 11:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
According to the some home owners on facebook, the Homeowners in Baja Del Mar in Rosarito have lost their court case and are being evicted from the properties. Apparently the original owner sold the property twice. Claimed loss: $500k per house. Most owners expats from the USA.



Well, this just off the press:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/06072...

Translation by an "app":

www.frontera.info
ROSARITO Baja California, GH) (
A strong police mobilization took place in the Low division of the Sea after the tried evacuation of over 40 families, who were on the arrest of the plaintiff, in the same place.

In the time on the 22,2 freeway Rosarito- Performing Embosomed and adjacent to the Reformation elements colony, the time and a town ministerial, but they were also been in half at least, hundreds of rehabilitation center of that were called to help in the evacuation.

The anguish of the residents down with the arrest of the plaintiff Julio Antonio Ochoa ministerial agents for you, that there was order for counterfeiting apprehension of statements against you.

For more than 20 years legal action is done looking to take your property of the inhabitants of this division.
TOPICS: ROSARITO EVACUATION,

chuckie - 7-6-2016 at 11:23 AM

Which means????

Hook - 7-6-2016 at 11:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Which means????


Cant make any sense of it, either.

JoeJustJoe - 7-6-2016 at 12:37 PM

I can't understand all the facts that happened from reading a couple of one-sided stories in the Mexican press about all these American and Mexican families being evicted from their homes worth $300,000 to $500,000 that the OP reported but I haven't seen any place else. ( the article talks about a $300,000 trust, and if so it sound almost like a big bribe)

It looks like some type of real estate fraud took place, but some of these people lived in this place for 20 years, and I'm sure this real estate battle was going on for years, and there probably wasn't just one ruling from one judge in all these years. I'm sure we aren't hearing all the facts.

And I'm sorry, I can't feel sorry for supposedly elderly American ex-pats like the article makes mention of. If these ex-pats are living in half-a-million dollar homes by the ocean in in Playas. C'mon, if these people have that type of money, they surely could afford the best Mexican attorneys that money could buy, and they should have done their due diligence, and should be considered sophisticated investors or real estate buyers.

Now what I see from other articles is the "Six Flags" is planning to build two theme parks, like we see in Southern California. The other park will be a water park, but they are also going to build condominiums, shopping malls, and even a hospital nearby the Convention center.

"Six Flags" needs a parking lot for all those cars, and those upscale homes in the disputed area, have to be removed for the greater good it would seem. Maybe, this is Rosarito's version of eminent domain.

Anyway, I would love to see two "Six Flags" parks south of the border, and it would be a boom to Baja tourism.

Sorry, rich ex-pat Grandpa and Grandma, you need to move out for progress, and tourism.
_________________________________


Planea Six Flags construir dos parques de diversiones en Rosarito

http://jornadabc.mx/tijuana/29-06-2016/planea-six-flags-cons...

[Edited on 7-6-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

Hook - 7-6-2016 at 01:26 PM

Theme parks, condos and malls are "progress"? Is this what Rosarito Beach has been lacking all these years?

If you can "extrapolate" that this wasn't the first court case in this battle, then I can "extrapolate" that once upon a time, a notario, a bank trust officer and whatever municipality records all, this told them they were good to go, if they were issued trusts. Then, suddenly, they weren't. And they are to blame, because they are "rich", but not rich enough to hire better lawyers????

Joe, yer a bigger d-i-c-k than I ever realized.........and that's sayin' sumpin!

JoeJustJoe - 7-6-2016 at 02:06 PM

I'm excited and really hope a couple of "Six Flag" theme parks in Rosarito will be built, if not for US tourism, then at least for local Mexican kids get a chance to visit such a great fun theme park, but lets hope the tickets will be cheaper in Rosarito.

I recall the good old days when I used to pack the family in the van for a trip to Six Flags Magic Mountain, in Valencia Ca, where the temperate always seemed to be nearly 100 degrees in the summer months.

It would be so much nicer to take a trip to "Six Flags" in Rosarito, right over the border, with your kids or grand-kids, and the temperature in the 70's.
___________________________________________

Here is another article in English from San Diego Red:

Six Flags in Talks for Theme Park in Rosarito, Baja California



Negotiations are being made to develop the land into a new commercial complex

ROSARITO.In an exclusive interview with the La Jornada Baja California, the Mayor-elect of Rosarito, Mirna Rincón Vargas, revealed that American investors have huge plans to develop land along the coast, which includes a Six Flags ammusement park near the Playas de Rosarito Convention Center.

The plan not only includes the Six Flags project, but also an water park, condominiums, malls and even a hospital.

Rincón mentioned that the project has been officially presented to her and that the area chosen for the project might include a bridge the goes over the Rosarito scenic road. This would not only attract Baja’s regional populace, but San Diegans that actually live closer to this area than the one located in Los Angeles.

According to Rincón, the construction could be completed in three years, but deals are still being made with the current owners of the land.

Rumors about a possible Six Flags or other amusement parks in the area aren't new, but confirmation from the Mayor-elect that there are indeed genuine talks about bringing the brand to Baja, are.

Six Flags already has a park in Mexico City and there are official talks to set one up in the northern city of Monterrey, but there haven't been any official comments from the company about a possible Rosarito one.

By the way, do you know why it's named "Six Flags"? Because of these ones:



Those are the six flags of the countries that Texas, where the theme park was founded, has belonged to: Spain, France, Mexico, the Republic of Texas, the Confederate States of America and, finally, the United States of America.

Via La Jornada BC

http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/75863/Six-Flags-in-Talks...

chuckie - 7-6-2016 at 02:20 PM

Aside from all that BS, what did the article say...

rts551 - 7-6-2016 at 03:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Which means????


Cant make any sense of it, either.


Best I can tell...There was an attempt to physically evict the residents. During the confrontation the police arrested the man who says he owns the property (Ochoa) fro making false statements. It also says the conflict has been going on for 20 years.

nothing else in the news that I can find.


[Edited on 7-6-2016 by rts551]

Terry28 - 7-6-2016 at 04:15 PM

Construction should start right after they finish "Trump Towers"...........

DENNIS - 7-6-2016 at 04:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook  

Joe, yer a bigger d-i-c-k than I ever realized.........and that's sayin' sumpin!


Now....when did you start listening [not to mention responding] to JJJ........Joe Just Jerk?





.


[Edited on 7-7-2016 by DENNIS]

willardguy - 7-6-2016 at 05:24 PM

http://zetatijuana.com/2016/07/06/se-frustra-desalojo-en-baj...

baja del Mar

mexicali-kid - 7-7-2016 at 08:02 AM

Title insurance would have been a good idea. Of course hind site is 20/20. but maybe this will help those of you thinking of buying in the future. It's a small price to pay for peace of mind.

chuckie - 7-7-2016 at 08:20 AM

In Mexico????

SFandH - 7-7-2016 at 08:35 AM

This image is from the Zeta newspaper link above. $500,000 houses, like someone said? I don't think so. I wonder if each lot is titled.



[Edited on 7-7-2016 by SFandH]

willardguy - 7-7-2016 at 08:48 AM

don't know why they chose a photo of back row homes but trust me, there's some badazz oceanfront pads here! ;)

SFandH - 7-7-2016 at 08:53 AM

I'll check out the place the next time I'm down that way. Kilometer 22.

willardguy - 7-7-2016 at 09:08 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I'll check out the place the next time I'm down that way. Kilometer 22.


for being right next to the toll road its tricky to get to, you have to access it from the pabellon mall (walmart) or walk in down the beach from the north (where that rusty hulk of a highrise is)

LancairDriver - 7-7-2016 at 10:07 AM

Much safer bet to invest in a comfortable RV and move around to desirable spots with the seasons,depending on if you prefer warmer or cooler weather, more shopping and restaurants, closer to medical care,etc.

JoeJustJoe - 7-7-2016 at 10:38 AM

This story has a happy ending, and nobody was evicted from their homes.

It appears some scumbag named Julio Antonio Ochoa, was trying to evict 40 families many of them American ex-pats, but in the end it was Julio Antonio Ochoa, who ended up arrested for fraud, although it appears the scumbag came close to pulling this off.

The story never seemed right to me, because if the Mexicans and ex-pats lived there all these years, the fact that even if there were title problems with the properties, the fact they paid property taxes all those years would leave a paper trail and made it very hard to evict the homeowners.

There are a few articles about this real estate dispute going back a few months, and the home valves were listed at about $140,000, and I'm still at a lost where the $500,000 value comes from, or possibly they are talking about the current market value.

You have to be very careful when you buy property in Mexico, especially in Rosarito, because of possible title problems, and scam artists trying to steal property because of possibly issues with the title, and possible loopholes in the Mexican real estate law they could exploit to their advantage.

We even had a couple of members on Baja forums, that tried something similar to what Julio Antonio Ochoa was doing but with mixed results, but in the end they were ran out of Baja on a rail, and they were largely unsuccessful.

So many times Mexican real estate laws and justice do work, but the wheels do turn slowly.

Lets hope "Six Flags" still builds their two theme parks.

mexicali-kid - 7-7-2016 at 12:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
In Mexico????
Yes, Stewart Title offers title insurance in Mexico.

http://www.stewart.com/en/customer-type/international/reside...

Lee - 7-7-2016 at 12:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mexicali-kid  
Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
In Mexico????
Yes, Stewart Title offers title insurance in Mexico.

http://www.stewart.com/en/customer-type/international/reside...


I've used Stewart (think the office was NYC) and it was like pulling teeth. Property in Todos, search dragged out 4-5 months, didn't return calls, or emails. Still, don't buy anything with a title search.

willardguy - 7-7-2016 at 12:53 PM

well at least for now the home owners can breath a sigh of relief :yes:

SFandH - 7-7-2016 at 01:25 PM

Maybe somebody can make sense of this lengthy article from January in Zeta. The google translator does a pretty good job but it looks like even if the translation was perfect, the issues would still be difficult to understand.

http://zetatijuana.com/2016/01/18/colonos-de-baja-del-mar-en...

rts551 - 7-7-2016 at 02:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
This story has a happy ending, and nobody was evicted from their homes.

It appears some scumbag named Julio Antonio Ochoa, was trying to evict 40 families many of them American ex-pats, but in the end it was Julio Antonio Ochoa, who ended up arrested for fraud, although it appears the scumbag came close to pulling this off.

The story never seemed right to me, because if the Mexicans and ex-pats lived there all these years, the fact that even if there were title problems with the properties, the fact they paid property taxes all those years would leave a paper trail and made it very hard to evict the homeowners.

There are a few articles about this real estate dispute going back a few months, and the home valves were listed at about $140,000, and I'm still at a lost where the $500,000 value comes from, or possibly they are talking about the current market value.

You have to be very careful when you buy property in Mexico, especially in Rosarito, because of possible title problems, and scam artists trying to steal property because of possibly issues with the title, and possible loopholes in the Mexican real estate law they could exploit to their advantage.

We even had a couple of members on Baja forums, that tried something similar to what Julio Antonio Ochoa was doing but with mixed results, but in the end they were ran out of Baja on a rail, and they were largely unsuccessful.

So many times Mexican real estate laws and justice do work, but the wheels do turn slowly.

Lets hope "Six Flags" still builds their two theme parks.



How did you make the leap to a happy ending? The judgement still stands. Ochoa was stopped from evicting the tenants because he was making false statements. This has been going on for 20 years and will continue. Maybe you are trying to sell real estate in the area?????

JoeJustJoe - 7-7-2016 at 03:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  


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How did you make the leap to a happy ending? The judgement still stands. Ochoa was stopped from evicting the tenants because he was making false statements. This has been going on for 20 years and will continue. Maybe you are trying to sell real estate in the area?????


I made the leap because I know how to read English and Spanish, and do my own research and if I have any trouble with a few Spanish words, I could use Google translate, or have my smart phone translate at a push of a button.

The question Rts551 is where are you getting your information from? I ask because there are some Baja sites that only post the bad news, and if there is any good news out of the stories like this, that part is usually ignored.

What I read is that some Mexican starting selling land in the area in the 80's, to some character who then transferred the rights of the land to Julio Antonio Ochoa, the scumbag who is trying to steal the land, but later in the 90's under a master trust of some bank that is now HSBC. They made an agreement with Ochoa and another person and paid them $300,000 for his debt of the land.

That meant Ochoa was paid off, and assignments of those rights should have transferred to the new owners, but for some reason it wasn't property recorded, and Ochoa and company were still listed as owners of record.


From what I'm reading Ochoa is just trying to take advantage of the situation, but who know what other fraudulent schemes Ochoa committed, that landed him in jail, but it's doubtful he still has a legal case when it could be proven he was paid off years ago, and all the other facts are starting to come out.





mtgoat666 - 7-8-2016 at 08:04 PM


Roller coasters are scary enough, without the added fear of Mexico's sometimes shaky building standards,...

I doubt they will get many USA guests, as most so cal peeps are afraid to travel south of the border, and the border xing going north is a miserable experience for many, most, all?
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
I'm excited and really hope a couple of "Six Flag" theme parks in Rosarito will be built, if not for US tourism, then at least for local Mexican kids get a chance to visit such a great fun theme park, but lets hope the tickets will be cheaper in Rosarito.

I recall the good old days when I used to pack the family in the van for a trip to Six Flags Magic Mountain, in Valencia Ca, where the temperate always seemed to be nearly 100 degrees in the summer months.

It would be so much nicer to take a trip to "Six Flags" in Rosarito, right over the border, with your kids or grand-kids, and the temperature in the 70's.
___________________________________________

Here is another article in English from San Diego Red:

Six Flags in Talks for Theme Park in Rosarito, Baja California



Negotiations are being made to develop the land into a new commercial complex

ROSARITO.In an exclusive interview with the La Jornada Baja California, the Mayor-elect of Rosarito, Mirna Rincón Vargas, revealed that American investors have huge plans to develop land along the coast, which includes a Six Flags ammusement park near the Playas de Rosarito Convention Center.

The plan not only includes the Six Flags project, but also an water park, condominiums, malls and even a hospital.

Rincón mentioned that the project has been officially presented to her and that the area chosen for the project might include a bridge the goes over the Rosarito scenic road. This would not only attract Baja’s regional populace, but San Diegans that actually live closer to this area than the one located in Los Angeles.

According to Rincón, the construction could be completed in three years, but deals are still being made with the current owners of the land.

Rumors about a possible Six Flags or other amusement parks in the area aren't new, but confirmation from the Mayor-elect that there are indeed genuine talks about bringing the brand to Baja, are.

Six Flags already has a park in Mexico City and there are official talks to set one up in the northern city of Monterrey, but there haven't been any official comments from the company about a possible Rosarito one.

By the way, do you know why it's named "Six Flags"? Because of these ones:



Those are the six flags of the countries that Texas, where the theme park was founded, has belonged to: Spain, France, Mexico, the Republic of Texas, the Confederate States of America and, finally, the United States of America.

Via La Jornada BC

http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/75863/Six-Flags-in-Talks...

JoeJustJoe - 7-10-2016 at 11:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mexicali-kid  
Title insurance would have been a good idea. Of course hind site is 20/20. but maybe this will help those of you thinking of buying in the future. It's a small price to pay for peace of mind.



So would have title insurance here save the headache the people of Baja Del Mar went through or any place else in Mexico?

Many in Mexico feel title insurance is just a redundant and expensive unnecessarily feature because the "Notario" also researches the titles looking at the Registro Publico, the same exact ways a title insurance company will.

Of course if the Notario makes a mistake, it's unlikely he will pay for that mistake, but the question is, will a title insurance make you whole again In Mexico?

I would say that would depend of the fine print, and the "exclusions" of their policy. I would always read the fine print, because there are a few common exclusions title companies make especially in Baja.