BajaNomad - New rules for permanent residents driving U.S. plated cars?

Tequila hysteria. Leave the worms in their can.

those who know nothing about it, who are not contributing anything to the headline are posting just the regular BS - as always. That`s the way to post 10.000 posts or more. Nothing to say but BS.
@ Terry 28: It`s not my job to do that. Sorry. My knowledge comes from a good friend of mine working at the TJ customs office. That is good enough for me to believe in.
But more that that, I know from the owner of the Oasis Park, Leon Nolet, in Mulege that he was enforcing temporary importation of every vehicle in his park. Residents had to drive to Santa Rosalia, go the customs office, filing for temporary importation, filling out documents, giving the customs agent a ride to Mulege > and back of course < that the agent could look at the object and put some sticker on it. And pay for !!
How is that possible without a law??????? Give yourself the answer.

Bob and Susan - 7-23-2016 at 12:02 PM

Tequila hysteria. Leave the worms in their can.

again not all posted by jc43 is correct...
I was talking to the customs people in tj in January...first hand information

baja is still considered a free zone and no temporary import permits are required...yet...they will be later

they will only import 2007 to 2012 cars at this time
if your car is in this range you should import it...
if not in this range of years you cant import it

until the customs laws change all you need is to have the car registered and have insurance on it if it newer than a 2007

immigration and customs are separate parts of the government

a permanent resident actually doesn't even need to live in baja...amazing to me

this is first hand information not second hand...i'll be the first to import when the rules change...i'll save $$$

i'll be talking to some people in los angeles about importing and tourism week after next...maybe they will find me the answer

currently baja a still a free zone and no temporary permits are needed except for boats over 15 feet

23S52N - 7-23-2016 at 12:12 PM

JC43 brings up an interesting point regarding what areas are import free zones. I went to and searched the official aduanas website, under customs, vehicles and TIPs. The only free zone mentioned is part of Sonora as shown on a map. BC and BCS are not mentioned as being exempt.

We seem to get a fair amount of misinformation from various US based Mexican auto insurance companies; I searched many online and all said the Baja peninsula was exempt.

What I discovered sure changes the picture in what so many of us have assumed and practiced.

It would be interesting to read some constructive input on this revelation. I simply googled aduanas Mexico and found their site the first one.

chuckie - 7-23-2016 at 12:22 PM

DENNIS! JC43 is putting you and I in the same category! How does THAT feel brother? I would like actually have a name put to the person that had their car seized. This rumor has been around a long time...

SFandH - 7-23-2016 at 12:28 PM

I know from the owner of the Oasis Park, Leon Nolet, in Mulege that he was enforcing temporary importation of every vehicle in his park. Residents had to drive to Santa Rosalia, go the customs office, filing for temporary importation, filling out documents, giving the customs agent a ride to Mulege > and back of course < that the agent could look at the object and put some sticker on it. And pay for !!

That's a rotten thing to do, why was he doing that? And to the people who are paying him to live there no less.

[Edited on 7-23-2016 by SFandH]

mojo_norte - 7-23-2016 at 12:32 PM

Gosh JC43 - lighten up!

SFandH - 7-23-2016 at 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan

baja is still considered a free zone and no temporary import permits are required...yet...they will be later

I can't see them expecting someone going to Ensenada for a day or a weekend to get a TIP. If anything they'll implement a rule like in Sonora where if you go past a certain point you'll need one. The BC/BCS state line would make sense.

Lee - 7-23-2016 at 12:48 PM

Tequila hysteria. Leave the worms in their can.

Please share whatever you're smoking. Too many people with a lot of knowledge of Baja to believe what you're saying. Sorry.

Remain calm, keep vaping, carry on.

chuckie - 7-23-2016 at 12:58 PM

JC43 is a wealth of misinformation..

JC43 - 7-23-2016 at 01:27 PM

JC43 is a wealth of misinformation..

Prairie Dog, do you have to say anything to the headline?
No? Than crawl back into your burrow.

chuckie - 7-23-2016 at 02:15 PM

Try reading.....better yet try posting facts instead of hearsay....

DENNIS - 7-23-2016 at 02:22 PM

DENNIS! JC43 is putting you and I in the same category! How does THAT feel brother? ...

Fine by me Sr. Chuckie. I just find it ludicrous that some come on here with this three alarm crap, acting like we're in Syria. I heard this and I heard that. Jeeezus Creesto....do some homework before pushing the alarm button.

pauldavidmena - 7-23-2016 at 02:54 PM

The late Rolly Brook has a detailed post entitled "Your Car in Mexico" at his website. Granted, it hasn't been updated in 5 years, but some of the links might be more current. It's a start, anyway.

Hook - 7-23-2016 at 04:35 PM

Rolly Brook's stuff on vehicles is antiquated now. The best source is probably yucalandia.com.

bill erhardt - 7-23-2016 at 06:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by john68

There are rumors of permanent residents driving U.S.-plated vehicles in Baja Sur having their vehicles confiscated.

Any truth to these stories?

It's going to take a big impound lot. I've got three vehicles of my own.
A great rumor, though, that seems to pop up every six months or so. The flip side of the rumor that South Dakota will soon change policies that provide reasonable tax, insurance and vehicle registration for peripatetic retirees in Amerika and residing elsewhere.
If you need something to worry about in the heat of the summer when the fish aren't biting, go for it. But, you may want to wait for at least one credible report of a permanent Baja resident's vehicle being confiscated before you change what you are doing. In the meantime, I'm going to keep on renewing my SD registrations every year.

DENNIS - 7-23-2016 at 06:11 PM

Well said, Capt. Hook.

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My apologies, Bill. I accredited Hook for your astute comments.

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[Edited on 7-24-2016 by DENNIS]

chuckie - 7-23-2016 at 06:29 PM

I renewed mine Thursday...And asked her about any pending or possible legislation that would effect/affect us Nomad types...She laughed...

JC43 - 7-23-2016 at 09:12 PM

I don`t know why it is so darn difficult for some (many) folks here to understand the issue.
I said and I repeat::::::: it is a law to temporary import a car or trailer or RV > whatever is crossing the border.
I also said this law is not enforced as Mexico (the aduana) does not have the capability of enforcing that law. Not the personal needed. Nor the space at the border crossings. Therefor not doing the temporary importation is tolerated.
BUT: If you are hitting the wrong guy, a Panda who needs mordida, you are in trouble not doing the temporary importation.
That has nothing to do with ND license plates (bill erhardt) nor with the year the vehicle is build (Bob&Susan) nor with any other crap(Dennis) nor with a laughter from ???? whom? (chuckie)
Got it now or is there any one who needs more explanation ????????????????????????????????????????????????

mojo_norte - 7-23-2016 at 09:34 PM

Oh dear ...

chuckie - 7-23-2016 at 11:36 PM

Fascinating!

mtgoat666 - 7-24-2016 at 06:39 AM

I don`t know why it is so darn difficult for some (many) folks here to understand the issue.
I said and I repeat::::::: it is a law to temporary import a car or trailer or RV > whatever is crossing the border.
I also said this law is not enforced as Mexico (the aduana) does not have the capability of enforcing that law. Not the personal needed. Nor the space at the border crossings. Therefor not doing the temporary importation is tolerated.
BUT: If you are hitting the wrong guy, a Panda who needs mordida, you are in trouble not doing the temporary importation.
That has nothing to do with ND license plates (bill erhardt) nor with the year the vehicle is build (Bob&Susan) nor with any other crap(Dennis) nor with a laughter from ???? whom? (chuckie)
Got it now or is there any one who needs more explanation ????????????????????????????????????????????????

You wave your arms and scream and yell, but where is your proof?
Why don't you cite a link to the law so we can read it?

DENNIS - 7-24-2016 at 06:59 AM

Ol' JC.......he has trouble typing and playing with his dick at the same time.
Anyway... he obviously has no proof....no link....no reference, which makes him the larger part of the problem.

chuckie - 7-24-2016 at 07:37 AM

Well..Thats what he does..anyone who wants to take the time to go back and read his outright lies, slanders and defamations during the period he was trying to run his con on the Serenidad, can satisfy themselves as to his lack of character..

bajatrailrider - 7-24-2016 at 07:46 AM

Another thing in Baja not to worry about. I will notify all the people here with no Driver lic/No lic plates/No INS/ try to talk to all the kids 8 years old driving trucks.

JC43 - 7-24-2016 at 07:57 AM

Ol' JC.......he has trouble typing and playing with his dick at the same time.
Anyway... he obviously has no proof....no link....no reference, which makes him the larger part of the problem.

You earned the crown of being the most primitive user!

DENNIS - 7-24-2016 at 08:07 AM

Yes........well, whatever that means....thank you.

pauldavidmena - 7-24-2016 at 09:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook

Rolly Brook's stuff on vehicles is antiquated now. The best source is probably yucalandia.com.

Thanks for the pointer. I've added it to my Baja bookmarks.

DENNIS - 7-24-2016 at 10:05 AM

Rolly [RIP] is a banquet of Mexico info.
Yucalandia is excellent as well.

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[Edited on 7-24-2016 by DENNIS]

Lee - 7-24-2016 at 11:08 AM

When Dennis or someone he knows has their car confiscated for lack of TIP, I'll believe that law is in effect.

In the mean time, here's a shout out for the new In-&-Out Burger on N. Coast Hgwy. in O'side. Their Double Double is simply the best. Plan on the Animal Fries if you're hungry.

Dennis: Hgwy. 76 exit if you're going North.

JC43 - 7-24-2016 at 03:02 PM

Yes........well, whatever that means....thank you.

well, I guessed that you don`t have the IQ to understand what I am saying. If someone like you is posting those things coming from under the belt line. the IQ is naturally low.
Ask a friend to explain that to you, will you?

chuckie - 7-24-2016 at 03:09 PM

Take THAT Dennis! He is a piece of work, aint he..... :biggrin:

Weeell !!

captkw - 7-24-2016 at 03:27 PM

I myself to enter the mainland of mexico had to put up a deposit and receive a window hologram sticker...took hrs as the motorhome itself had a VIN plate and So did the chassis...LOL, That was a classic crossing !! I Know folks that cross over from La Paz have to do the thing, BUT You Do Not need to do anything for Baja norte or Sur So far as importing a car/truck/boat/UFO.. That's like saying you must by LAW lick the salt first before the lime.. But not enough salt cops around... LOL :rolleyes:

DENNIS - 7-24-2016 at 03:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Dennis: Hgwy. 76 exit if you're going North.

Thanks, Mr. Lee. Next time I wander that far north, I'll probably be in an urn.

DENNIS - 7-24-2016 at 03:37 PM

well, I guessed that you don`t have the IQ to understand what I am saying.

Yes. I don't. Hope I never sink that low on the scale.

chippy - 7-24-2016 at 04:08 PM

I thought that JC43 was captkw sober :?:

? Now I`m not sure? Maybe twin brothers from different mothers :light:

chuckie - 7-24-2016 at 04:24 PM

Capt KW is a Mensa compared to JC43...

JC43 - 7-24-2016 at 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by captkw

I myself to enter the mainland of mexico had to put up a deposit and receive a window hologram sticker...took hrs as the motorhome itself had a VIN plate and So did the chassis...LOL, That was a classic crossing !! I Know folks that cross over from La Paz have to do the thing, BUT You Do Not need to do anything for Baja norte or Sur So far as importing a car/truck/boat/UFO.. That's like saying you must by LAW lick the salt first before the lime.. But not enough salt cops around... LOL :rolleyes:

sorry kaptkw, you are another one who is not catching the point of the issue.
What I am saying has nothing to do with the so called `fronteriza zone´. It has nothing to do with going from Baja to the mainland with fronteriza plates, and paying what you talked about. 100% wrong you are.
The issue here is about temporary importation the moment you are crossing the border. Which is by law requested for every vehicle. But again for those who are a little slow in the part of the head above the eyes: That law is not enforced b/c of a lack of capability by MX aduana.
If you guys like it or not, if you are understanding the issue or not - it is still the law.
And no bull$chit posted here by folks not understanding the issue can change that.

chuckie - 7-24-2016 at 06:18 PM

Geezo! He's even throwing CapKW on the dumchit pile! Thank you for your input JC43......

JC43 - 7-24-2016 at 06:28 PM

Geezo! He's even throwing CapKW on the dumchit pile! Thank you for your input JC43......

No! Not on the same dumchit hill on which you are residing.
I only made clear that capkw is mixing up the issues. nothing else. but you are again not catching the point, lowbrainer you are.

Pescador - 7-25-2016 at 05:55 PM

OK, Brain Surgeon, JC43, tell me what you know about ONAPAFFA and ANAPROMEX. The law is not really so clear and it would be important for the police officer, either Federal, Municipal, Estado, or Ministerial. None of those entities are fully up to speed in terms of Aduana laws. So when I talk to the Federales or Ministerial in our area, they report that as long as the drivers license and registration are current, everything is fine. In Cabo, there were quite a few cars who were held but it was mostly because they were expired, which is a real no-no.

So, for those poor people who choose to live in the areas of Cabos, (San Jose and Cabo San Lucas) the enforcement may or may not be different there. The Gringo Gazette reported that they only confiscations were because of expiration.

In order to find you in violation, the police officer would have to ask for your immigration card, which in our area is something they said they were not interested in, because it crosses jurisdiction, which in Mexico is a very important issue.

So, if you are uncomfortable with this situation, import your vehicle, or stay with resident temporal.

JC43 - 7-26-2016 at 02:12 PM

O.K., you smart a$$. ONA and ANA are only possible "go around the tax sticker" - which is not in use anymore anyway. Nowadays you are getting only a document for the tax pay. No sticker anymore.
And of course the enforcement of laws is different in Los Cabos --- we are not living in the boondocks!
But talking about municipal police / State Police etc. That will soon change. All those will be Federalis (pandas) in the future.
And, o.k., you can ignore any law - even if it exists. Where there is no judge - there is no judgment. And that, the existence of the law of temporary importation of all vehicles crossing the border, is what this thread is all about. Get the point or leave it.

bajaguy - 7-26-2016 at 02:47 PM

Think I'll go with this

Quote: Originally posted by Pescador

....... So when I talk to the Federales or Ministerial in our area, they report that as long as the drivers license and registration are current, everything is fine. In Cabo, there were quite a few cars who were held but it was mostly because they were expired, which is a real no-no.

So, for those poor people who choose to live in the areas of Cabos, (San Jose and Cabo San Lucas) the enforcement may or may not be different there. The Gringo Gazette reported that they only confiscations were because of expiration.

In order to find you in violation, the police officer would have to ask for your immigration card, which in our area is something they said they were not interested in, because it crosses jurisdiction, which in Mexico is a very important issue.

So, if you are uncomfortable with this situation, import your vehicle, or stay with resident temporal.

OK, I cry UNCLE !!

captkw - 7-27-2016 at 11:33 PM

SO...Whats the "lowdown" on all this >??? LOL I am missing the boat on this ... "Just the facts M'am,just the facts" Tuesday.....

mtgoat666 - 7-28-2016 at 06:52 AM

Y'all should move past your disorganized drunk posting, and develop an online drinking game. Perhaps an app where you baja nomad gray beard alcoholics could experience some online unity while you pound shots together and yell at each other. The app could allow you to virtually drink together in real time, allow you to yell instead of type, and could be set up to measure your bellicosity so you could keep score.

Or you could just come to baja nomad, get chit faced, and pound out opinions and insults about the trivia of vehicle registration.

chuckie - 7-28-2016 at 07:13 AM

What would be the rules on this drinking game, and who would administer it? Whats an "app?"

bajaguy - 7-28-2016 at 07:15 AM

Easy solution......take the plates off of your car and blend in with everybody else

KurtG - 7-28-2016 at 07:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

That's a rotten thing to do, why was he doing that? And to the people who are paying him to live there no less.

[Edited on 7-23-2016 by SFandH]

I know nothing about the import issue but I have known Leon since the mid 70's. He is a good and honest man.

mtgoat666 - 7-28-2016 at 08:06 AM

What would be the rules on this drinking game, and who would administer it? Whats an "app?"

The rules are to drink a lot, but make sure your opponent drinks more. Capiche?

If you don't know what an app is, perhaps the game is not for you. You should stick to ranting here and yelling at your TV.

chuckie - 7-28-2016 at 08:13 AM

Thank you for your input, goatley!

shari - 7-28-2016 at 08:17 AM

i really dont understand why a business owner would want to enforce a vehicle law....what does it have to do with him? unless he is getting a kick back from the authorities in Sta.Rosalia. I would think it is counterproductive to do this as people may not want to stay there if they are getting turned in.

At our Inn, I advise guests to get their visas but I sure dont check them and call immigration on them if they dont.

chuckie - 7-28-2016 at 08:25 AM

I would guess that was/is more of a suggestion on Leons part than anything else...I too have known Leon for many years. He is an honest man who always goes out of his way to help out....

bajagrouper - 7-28-2016 at 08:35 AM

Last year I drove across at Chaparral got an FMM and asked about a TIP and was told I could not even get one there at that office, I would have to drive to La Paz to get one. As a tourist you do not need a TIP for Baja California, BCS and as far south to KM 98 in Sonora and is called the "no hassle zone"......

shari - 7-28-2016 at 08:53 AM