BajaNomad - It's hot out there...

It's obvious. Each time I measured every hour for 48 hours, made sure I had a log normal distribution of measurements and the average measurement was within one standard deviation at the 94.2 confidence level. All on the up and up you see. Global warming is an illuminati ruse.

You forgot to measure your tire tracks in the sand and the relative distance to the palms when aired up and aired down.

SFandH - 8-18-2016 at 05:00 PM

You forgot to measure your tire tracks in the sand and the relative distance to the palms when aired up and aired down.

Au contraire, I did that measurement, and the universal gas law, PV=nRT, states that if in fact there was global atmospheric warming the pressure on the outside of the tire would require less of an inflationary differential depending upon the diameter of each grain of sand and the moisture content per cubic centimeter of the sand beneath the tire. I found neither. Global warming is a lie made by those that want to raise your taxes. Be afraid, very afraid. Vote Trump.

chuckie - 8-18-2016 at 05:15 PM

Al Gore don't know nuttin...librul plot....whole dern thing...

blackwolfmt - 8-18-2016 at 05:29 PM

You guys is funny

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woody with a view - 8-18-2016 at 05:36 PM

who's on first? :?:

rts551 - 8-18-2016 at 06:04 PM

You forgot to measure your tire tracks in the sand and the relative distance to the palms when aired up and aired down.

Only counts if you take pictures. We all know that such scientific measures are lies.

David K - 8-18-2016 at 08:45 PM

Just drives you crazy that there are photos of that palm over 60 years ago that permits anyone to see the ocean is no higher today than it was in the 1950s.

Pretty hard to push your 'big government knows best agenda' when the people can use their own eyes to see the truth.

:light:

Power to the People!

Bajaboy - 8-18-2016 at 09:50 PM

Just drives you crazy that there are photos of that palm over 60 years ago that permits anyone to see the ocean is no higher today than it was in the 1950s.

Pretty hard to push your 'big government knows best agenda' when the people can use their own eyes to see the truth.

:light:

Power to the People!

David, you're welcome to your opinion. But this has nothing to do with Big Government.

Big science and big business are in agreement about climate change. That might not mean they are correct but I'm guessing they might know a little more than you do :light:

mtgoat666 - 8-18-2016 at 11:00 PM

i know someone that has picture of a unicorn, does that mean they are true too?

MMc - 8-18-2016 at 11:14 PM

I don't have a palm tree in this fight.I believe that 1 out of 4 countries is better than 0 out of 4 countries, in the possible fix of the problem. We should do something. Here is another CO2 generating log on the fire.
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=PragerU%20global%20wa...

mtgoat666 - 8-19-2016 at 06:23 AM

The USA has 5% of worlds population,
And USA uses 25% of worlds annual energy consumption
And the USA emits 15% of worlds greenhouse gasses
The USA (and some other countries like China) are the largest share of the problem, it is about time the USA start solving the problem that the USA is driving!
The GOP are bad global citizens, and the GOP politicians that deny global warming are owned by the petroleum/energy industry!
Bernie is right, the 1% money needs be removed from politics!

bajabuddha - 8-19-2016 at 06:39 AM

FISH ON ! ! ! !

David K - 8-19-2016 at 08:32 AM

Power to the People!

We all know many things and different things.

I know I don't need some government, 3,000 miles away telling me what's best where I live. I grew up and don't need a nanny.

I know that a palm tree does not uproot itself and move.

I know that if a palm tree on a beach is a foot higher than the sea in 1953 and a still foot higher in 2016, the sea level has not changed enough to matter to anyone.

I know that to scare money out of taxpayers pockets, politicians will lie and say it is our doing and only with more money and power can this 'terrible sea level rising' or 'man-made' climate change be reversed! They can spend every cent made, and that will not make any difference in the natural changes this planet has ALWAYS had, man or no man. The ocean used to be a lot higher and it may be higher again, but we can't change that from happening. It sure hasn't happened in any of our lives.

As long as you don't question authority, authority will walk all over you and your rights.

rts551 - 8-19-2016 at 08:44 AM

Power to the People!

Good Lord. Your right to what? It defies common sense that someone would say we do not influence what happens on this Earth.

David K - 8-19-2016 at 08:54 AM

" It defies common sense that someone would say we do not influence what happens on this Earth."

Reading 101: I didn't say that.

What I did try to convey:
Man has not caused sea levels to rise or can reverse the natural changes that happen on earth.
Now, when certain volcanoes erupt, then you can get a tiny amount of climate change as we have recorded.
Nature bats last, they say!

chuckie - 8-19-2016 at 09:17 AM

It's almost humorous, if it wasn't so sad... People ranting about losing their rights..When asked to get specific, about a particular right they have personally lost, they come up dry..And as re climate change and water problems? Of course we affect them....Anyone who dismisses that is looney....Can we fix it? beats the poop out of me....I don't like big gummint...BUT it is what it is....We have to try to change THAT....

weebray - 8-19-2016 at 11:17 AM

I opened this thread to see what was going on with the weather round the baja. I see it's just the same old useless twaddle. We just got back from Cali y Nevada. We can report that aside from the coast, California y Nevada are much hotter than La Paz. Everyone asked us how we can stand the hot weather in Mexico. We tell them we just suffer through. Trip report to follow as if anyone cares.

bajabuddha - 8-19-2016 at 01:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

I opened this thread to see what was going on with the weather round the baja. I see it's just the same old useless twaddle. We just got back from Cali y Nevada. We can report that aside from the coast, California y Nevada are much hotter than La Paz. Everyone asked us how we can stand the hot weather in Mexico. We tell them we just suffer through. Trip report to follow as if anyone cares.

Uh... weebray.... don't take this personally, but you're ALMOST as confused as DK... motoged opened this thread fishin' and a big chub sucker took the bait; now the fun begins. I think you should look for whatever thread you started to find and duck on the way out; the fecal material is striking the rotary oscillator now... and it's SOS, DD. Oh, and love to hear your trip report for some diversional reading.

:lol:

[Edited on 8-19-2016 by bajabuddha]

Sweetwater - 8-19-2016 at 03:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

FISH ON ! ! ! !

SFandH - 8-19-2016 at 04:07 PM

Let's throw out some more bait.

"The village, with its 650 residents, mostly members of the Inupiat Inuit tribe, would be the first in the United States to relocate because of global warming-induced sea level rise. The effects of climate change on the island are considered among the most dramatic in the world."

http://archinect.com/news/article/149963793/alaskan-village-...

[Edited on 8-19-2016 by SFandH]

bajabuddha - 8-19-2016 at 04:08 PM

Let's throw out some more bait.

"The village, with its 650 residents, mostly members of the Inupiat Inuit tribe, would be the first in the United States to relocate because of global warming-induced sea level rise. The effects of climate change on the island are considered among the most dramatic in the world."

http://archinect.com/news/article/149963793/alaskan-village-...

Buncha puzzies. Now if they'd plant some PALM TREES along their shores this'd never have happened......

SFandH - 8-19-2016 at 04:22 PM

That's true. As palm trees age they get heavier and sink into the ground (don't we all). The sinking pushes up the surrounding ground causing it to be a barrier to rising sea levels. I'm going to plant some on the beach near my house, just as a precaution.

[Edited on 8-19-2016 by SFandH]

bajabuddha - 8-19-2016 at 04:32 PM

I tried here in Baja, NM..... but had the same luck with Palms as I had with raising baby chickens; lost 'em all. Either planting too deep, or too far apart....

SFandH - 8-19-2016 at 04:35 PM

Yeah, don't plant your baby chickens to deep.

Bajaboy - 8-19-2016 at 07:09 PM

" It defies common sense that someone would say we do not influence what happens on this Earth."

Reading 101: I didn't say that.

What I did try to convey:
Man has not caused sea levels to rise or can reverse the natural changes that happen on earth.

But man can change man-made climate change, right?! :light:

I'm glad you at least agree with that

freediverbrian - 8-19-2016 at 09:15 PM

9 out of 10 dentists recommend brushing to prevent cavities. But I listen to the one quack. :?:

bajabuddha - 8-20-2016 at 12:04 AM

LOOK MA, NO TEEFS! .... But i'm still COOL...

Sweetwater - 8-21-2016 at 08:18 AM

Ged, I'm thinking you know about this but the repercussions of climate change are having an impact inland too. I just moto'd through Glacier NP and their measurements tell us that there will be no glaciers left in the park by 2030. Unless of course, we get a nuclear winter....
Cold water fish are getting hit this summer.

BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Montana wildlife officials indefinitely closed a 183-mile stretch of the Yellowstone River and hundreds of miles of other waterways Friday, barring all fishing, rafting and other activities to prevent the spread of a parasite believed to have killed tens of thousands of fish.Fishing guides and rafting operators who run businesses along the river said the move could be catastrophic to the area's sizable outdoor industry, which depends heavily on the busy summer season.The closure could last for months if river conditions don't improve and fish keep dying, according to officials from Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. It extends to hundreds of miles of waterways that feed into the Yellowstone, including the Boulder, Shields and Stillwater rivers.Even when the river reopens, there are fears the fish die-off could deal a lasting blow to the Yellowstone's reputation as a world-class trout fishery that draws visitors from around the world.
The disease was previously documented just twice in the state over the past 20 years but more recent outbreaks have occurred in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. Officials said it does not pose a health risk to people.

Low water levels and warm temperatures are making the problem worse by adding to the stresses faced by cold-water species such as trout and whitefish, officials said. In other rivers, outbreaks of the disease persisted until water temperatures dropped months later.

On the Yellowstone, fishing, wading, floating, boating and other activities are banned until further notice. Numerous fly fishing outfitters and rafting companies operate in the closed stretch of river, which extends from Yellowstone National Park's northern boundary to the city of Laurel, along with all tributaries in those areas.

[Edited on 8-21-2016 by Sweetwater]

David K - 8-21-2016 at 09:04 AM

Who can say what it will be like in 2030? It's all guessing and they have been wrong all along, so far. All your popular lib celebrities and politicians (years ago) said the coastal cities would be underwater and the ice caps would be gone.

A couple years ago were these reports showing all is not lost and was getting better or colder up north...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-C...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/climate-change-siz...

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reache...

Now here's a NASA report this last week, and read how they were all excited about the "rapid" ice melt in May, but by August are miffed that it didn't melt as much as they predicted (hoped?)!: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-monitors-the-n...

While focused highly on a smaller Arctic ice cap, very little is mentioned by the libs that the opposite pole, Antarctic ice is GROWING. Seems the earth is in balance, doesn't it?: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2015-antarctic-maximum-s...

LOL! Hard to spin the facts if they are all provided, as the earth has TWO polar regions, not just one.

The point is, the earth is not ending and making government bigger doesn't change the climate! Enjoy life and worry about things you can actually change.

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 09:38 AM

Whats a "lib"....more political BS?

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 09:58 AM

It was an interesting link, too bad DK didn't read it all...

David K - 8-21-2016 at 10:03 AM

"Oct. 15, 2015
2015 Antarctic Maximum Sea Ice Extent Breaks Streak of Record Highs"

"The growth of Antarctic sea ice was erratic this year: sea ice was at much higher than normal levels throughout much of the first half of 2015 until, in mid-July, it flattened out and even went below normal levels in mid-August. The sea ice cover recovered partially in September, but still this year’s maximum extent is 513,00 square miles (1.33 million square kilometers) below the record maximum extent, which was set in 2014."

Are they playing games with words?
You decide!

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 10:29 AM

Why?

Sweetwater - 8-21-2016 at 11:22 AM

Who can say what it will be like in 2030? It's all guessing and they have been wrong all along, so far. All your popular lib celebrities and politicians (years ago) said the coastal cities would be underwater and the ice caps would be gone.

A couple years ago were these reports showing all is not lost and was getting better or colder up north...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-C...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/climate-change-siz...

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reache...

Now here's a NASA report this last week, and read how they were all excited about the "rapid" ice melt in May, but by August are miffed that it didn't melt as much as they predicted (hoped?)!: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-monitors-the-n...

While focused highly on a smaller Arctic ice cap, very little is mentioned by the libs that the opposite pole, Antarctic ice is GROWING. Seems the earth is in balance, doesn't it?: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2015-antarctic-maximum-s...

LOL! Hard to spin the facts if they are all provided, as the earth has TWO polar regions, not just one.

The point is, the earth is not ending and making government bigger doesn't change the climate! Enjoy life and worry about things you can actually change.

Just don't attempt to go fishing on the Yellowstone River which has been the premiere trout and whitefish fishery and destination in Montana. And if you're an outfitter whose income and business rely on that resource, you're also a victim of liberal big government. DK, you define idiocy with your willful ignorance, but I'm OK with that.

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 11:38 AM

Ja Ja, He just cant admit he's wrong....Here in the Midwest, it's easy to see whats happening...aquifers dropping, droughts, record heats. Farmers ranchers adapting as fast as they can to new crops and methods....The Montana thing will break a lot of people...I don't see very many of them wringing their hands and blaming it in "Gummint"...too much work to do...

David K - 8-21-2016 at 12:13 PM

Whatever floats your boat boys!
I am happy to be disproven about sea level rising over our cities by 2006... oh wait, it is 2016, and the sea isn't any higher?!! I never said anything about ground water levels chuckie, yet you always seem to bring that up like it has something to do with sea level?

Things change, but getting all worked up and fighting over the degree is only wrong if you use such beliefs to gain more power over the people.

Why you think some government employee, thousands of miles away, knows more about how to spend your money than you do, is my only concern.

If more of our money is spent locally, on things we choose, than being sent to Washington and spent on things that will do nothing to change the natural climate (if we even should), then all of us would be better off. But, that is just my silly opinion!

Have a great day!

surfhat - 8-21-2016 at 12:16 PM

To all here, I am forever grateful to be able to connect with Baja when I am not able to be down there myself. For that reason, I have resisted commenting on politics and will continue to do so.

I don't come here every day for political opinions. Those who are convinced, will not be changing their minds, no matter what ignorance they continue to profess.

Denying 98% of world wide scientists opinion on mankinds' behavior directly affecting climate change leaves two percent of a chance that they are correct. Let it be.

Just because a palm tree on the SOC hasn't been washed away over the last 40 years is good enough for some to deny the ocean is rising. These same people should talk to those island folks in the Pacific and Indian Oceans whose lands are disappearing under water.

These same people should know how much of the Greenland ice sheet is melting away.

These same people should know that glaciers world wide are retreating at an ever increasing rate.

There is much more out there to support, rather than deny, our effect on climate change.

Baja Nomad has provided an escape from all the bs we are subjected to in our daily lives. May it always be so. Leave the politicking to other sites. I suppose the off topics forum could be used, but they are not. Over and out on politicking. I have to believe none of us logs onto this site for that. That is it for my one venture into hardly a debatable topic. Over and out. Thanks to all here. Peace out on politics on Baja Nomad.

David K - 8-21-2016 at 12:33 PM

Thank you surfhat, but not only a Palm Tree, over 60 years old, that was a foot or two above high tide in 1953, but is still a foot or two above high tide... but also huge rocks, the old main road to La Paz, other places throughout Baja on the sea (Alfonsina's, Puertecitos hot springs, the list goes on and on of solid items on the high tide line, that STILL are not underwater. If the sea level was indeed higher (and sea level is a worldwide reference point) why are not these places, the salt flats, and launch ramps, etc. under water?

It has already been mentioned that many islands made of coral or volcanic materials are sinking, naturally... which of course looks to people on these island like the ocean is rising.

surfhat - 8-21-2016 at 12:58 PM

David, I have the greatest respect for all you provide to us here on Baja's history. In that, you shine like no other and forever deserve all of our thanks. That's it. Keep on doing what you know best. Peace out my Baja brother.

Done and done on any politicking from here on out. My Baja dreams are reserved for other concerns than to what some think are debatable. They are not. You and John Coleman are a match made in heaven and deserve each other. That is it. That is all. Over and out. Thanks to all here and especially you Dennis for the historical info you continue to provide. We are all in your debt.

My one excursion into this non debate is over. If I want to explore whether climate change is manmade, I go elsewhere. May Nomad ever remain a site we can go to and not be subjected to the stuff we are exposed to in our daily lives. Peace to all and thanks to all here.

David K - 8-21-2016 at 01:04 PM

An awesome and kind reply surfhat!

I understand it is an emotional rather than logical thing with many. No matter what we post, it is probably not changing anyone's religious-like beliefs about if the climate changing is (for the first time in thousands) man-caused. The more important thing is: can we live with the change if we can't halt it?

Hope to cross paths someday and share a cold drink!

Viva Baja!

Bajaboy - 8-21-2016 at 02:35 PM

Anyone else find it ironic that David sites NASA and NOAA to support his claim that climate change is not man made?

mtgoat666 - 8-21-2016 at 02:59 PM

Anyone else find it ironic that David sites NASA and NOAA to support his claim that climate change is not man made?

Life is easier when you pick and choose your facts, and make up facts where the situation lacks a suitable fact.

Fact on!

Barry A. - 8-21-2016 at 03:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Anyone else find it ironic that David sites NASA and NOAA to support his claim that climate change is not man made?

Life is easier when you pick and choose your facts, and make up facts where the situation lacks a suitable fact.

Fact on!

Does anybody else on this board find it alarming that a few DEMAND that other's change their mind, and by their standards fall-in-line, and when they don't they trash and bash them over and over again, almost without fail?

SFandH - 8-21-2016 at 04:03 PM

Be afraid, very afraid, the Algorian conspiracy of world scientists is coming to get you. With its anthropogenic global warming lies it's going to steal your freedoms, raise your taxes, and leave you jobless.

Be afraid, very afraid, the end is near.

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 04:36 PM

:biggrin:

David K - 8-21-2016 at 04:39 PM

Be afraid, very afraid, the Algorian conspiracy of world scientists is coming to get you. With its anthropogenic global warming lies it's going to steal your freedoms, raise your taxes, and leave you jobless.

Be afraid, very afraid, the end is near.

Finally, a Nomad who gets it!

:lol:

SFandH - 8-21-2016 at 04:48 PM

You really think that, doncha?

chuckie - 8-21-2016 at 04:58 PM

He is SO dumb...

David K - 8-21-2016 at 05:03 PM

The laughing is not understood as a joke by you two? Sense of humor requires intelligence, sorry you didn't get it.

rts551 - 8-21-2016 at 05:46 PM

David slowly comes around. At one point he denied there was any change. Now he admits change but does not like the government doing anything about it. I guess he prefers a Natural remedy...Pray to god and do nothing.

Sandlefoot - 8-21-2016 at 06:05 PM

Thank you surfhat, but not only a Palm Tree, over 60 years old, that was a foot or two above high tide in 1953, but is still a foot or two above high tide... but also huge rocks, the old main road to La Paz, other places throughout Baja on the sea (Alfonsina's, Puertecitos hot springs, the list goes on and on of solid items on the high tide line, that STILL are not underwater. If the sea level was indeed higher (and sea level is a worldwide reference point) why are not these places, the salt flats, and launch ramps, etc. under water?

It has already been mentioned that many islands made of coral or volcanic materials are sinking, naturally... which of course looks to people on these island like the ocean is rising.

Islands do weird thing, watch out for what you believe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

chuckie - 8-22-2016 at 08:18 AM

DK is incapable of much rational thought. Much of what he writes is parroted from others. He is frightened of "Gummint" overlords and fantasizes about "rights" being taken away, never naming one that has affected him personally. He is a weasel in the respect that rather than admitting he is wrong will edit or delete his posts, apparently he believes that fixes it. He is incapable of accepting responsibility for his financial situation, blaming it on "Gummint". At every opportunity he inserts political pollution into things. He professes to be a Baja expert based on maybe a trip a year or more if someone else pays for it, ala the Cameron Steele trip we heard about daily for months....He is what he is....A very insecure self centered poseur ....

David K - 8-22-2016 at 08:31 AM

David slowly comes around. At one point he denied there was any change. Now he admits change but does not like the government doing anything about it. I guess he prefers a Natural remedy...Pray to god and do nothing.

Selective reading, again? I have always believed that change is the norm and was before man used fossil fuels. That a single volcanic eruption can produce more "pollution" than all of man's contributions and that Nature deals with it as she always has. Government can't change natural climate, nor should it, so wasting our dollars on such activity is useless. Pray all you want, but the earth is going to keep on doing what it always has, man or no man.

As for the tides, if the sea level rose any amount that would affect people living along the coast, that palm would be in the water, or in it at every high tide. Not just the well photographed palm, but other "solid" things on the edge of the sea, that also are not in the water, 40-60 years later... the old road, Pompano's house, Alfonsina's homes, runway (still covered only at the highest tides, as always but not underwater anymore than in 1960)!

I am just asking everyone interested to use their own eyes and brain and not believe what your government masters are shoving down us, to justiify their getting more power and dollars. Power to the people!

No matter how much you ignore the photographic evidence (or how much I refuse to roll over to what CNN and MSNBC says), the earth will continue to do what it is doing, warming or cooling, melting or freezing.

Now, how about it, can you accept that the sea is not visibly higher than it was in 1953, as the photos clearly show? The evidence we Baja Nomads can see gives us an advantage over people in places like Kansas who have only the news to rely upon.

SFandH - 8-22-2016 at 08:35 AM

According to this EPA data it looks like sea-level has increased about 4 inches since 1970. Probably not a noticeable rise when viewing the Playa Coyote Palm Tree Global Climate Change Indicator. Plus, is the bottom of the bay 4 inches deeper? Has the shoreline added 4 inches of sand because of currents? All possibilities.

DK's insistence that his photos negate measurements made by scientists worldwide is the main reason people call BS when he talks climate change. The photos prove nothing. Plus his use of political dogma when considering a scientific question is another reason to raise the BS flag.

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indica...

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

David K - 8-22-2016 at 08:36 AM

If that's important for you to believe, then try and still have a nice day, okay?

chuckie - 8-22-2016 at 08:46 AM

DK's drought reasoning? "It's summer" And DK? I likely have spent more time on the pot in Baja than you have total...

rts551 - 8-22-2016 at 09:19 AM

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rts551 - 8-22-2016 at 09:21 AM

http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/news/floria-and-the-risin...

Florida coast threatened by rising seas.

chuckie - 8-22-2016 at 09:29 AM

What I said....

TMW - 8-22-2016 at 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

DK's drought reasoning? "It's summer" And DK? I likely have spent more time on the pot in Baja than you have total...

Have you or anyone else on this board that disagrees with DK seen with your own eyes a change in sea level? If so where?

It was posted on Nomad that the sea level was expected to rise a couple of inches every hundred years. If so who has done the measurements and where. The only proof I've seen is the pictures DK posted and many of you don't believe it.

SFandH - 8-22-2016 at 10:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

The only proof I've seen is the pictures DK posted and many of you don't believe it.

Many of us don't consider that to be proof of anything. What do think about this?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sea-level-rise-swa...

chuckie - 8-22-2016 at 10:17 AM

Yes....Alaska

pauldavidmena - 8-22-2016 at 02:09 PM

David K - 8-22-2016 at 04:11 PM

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LOOK... the ocean sea level is way down there... The photo shows EROSION! Storm-driven waves and natural sand movement that has little to do with the subject of rising sea levels.

David K - 8-22-2016 at 04:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Sandlefoot

Islands do weird thing, watch out for what you believe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q

Makes perfect sense considering it's from a Democrat! :lol:

Is this guy drunk or on crack!??

SFandH - 8-22-2016 at 04:30 PM

Makes perfect sense considering it's from a Democrat! :lol:

Is this guy drunk or on crack!??

There is the bigotry you were previously denying. You would do better to not make remarks like that.

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

Barry A. - 8-22-2016 at 04:34 PM

Makes perfect sense considering it's from a Democrat! :lol:

Is this guy drunk or on crack!??

There is the bigotry you were previously denying. You would do better to not make remarks like that.

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

"Bigotry"?????? How is stating what appears to be obvious "bigotry"? I agree that it shows prejudice against Democrat's, but "bigotry"??? I don't see it!!!

SFandH - 8-22-2016 at 04:36 PM

bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

bajabuddha - 8-22-2016 at 04:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.

Makes perfect sense considering it's from a Democrat! :lol:

Is this guy drunk or on crack!??

There is the bigotry you were previously denying. You would do better to not make remarks like that.

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

"Bigotry"?????? How is stating what appears to be obvious "bigotry"? I agree that it shows prejudice against Democrat's, but "bigotry"??? I don't see it!!!

That's because you're an obvious bigot too........

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by bajabuddha]

Barry A. - 8-22-2016 at 04:37 PM

bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

LOL--------Your quick!!! I just looked bigotry up and you are absolutely right. My bad!!!

Thanks, SF&H.

David K - 8-22-2016 at 04:44 PM

Did you listen to the clip... Guam tipping over... seriously, stupid is as stupid does!

SFandH - 8-22-2016 at 04:54 PM

And you associated his stupidity with his membership in the Democratic party implying all Democrats are stupid.

You're a political bigot. Stop it.

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

chuckie - 8-22-2016 at 04:59 PM

He CANT stop it He is brainwashed and a slave to his political overlords...He is frightened that the guys in the Black helicopters will get him If he doesn't obey.....

rts551 - 8-22-2016 at 05:07 PM

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LOOK... the ocean sea level is way down there... The photo shows EROSION! Storm-driven waves and natural sand movement that has little to do with the subject of rising sea levels.

Erosion where there has never been erosion before. You can hide from reality but it is still there.

Barry A. - 8-22-2016 at 05:22 PM

rts555-------the continents are constantly being eroded away, and have been for eons. Look at the La Jolla cliffs, Point Loma---------etc.etc.etc.

But, I admit I am a "bigot" when it comes to many Liberal/Progressive ideas due to many of their policies which are well-meaning but simply wrong-headed, IMO, and over-reactive to legit problems, but which often tends to compound those problems and makes them worse.

Just my bigoted opinion, of course.

David K - 8-22-2016 at 05:44 PM

And you associated his stupidity with his membership in the Democratic party implying all Democrats are stupid.

You're a political bigot. Stop it.

[Edited on 8-22-2016 by SFandH]

There was a part in Gone with the Wind when Charlotte said something like, "I was 16 before I learned that 'damn' and 'Yankee' were two separate words!"

The stupidest, dumb stuff comes out of the mouths of "these" politicians! (There, I substituted in "these" so you are not offended). I was talking about that one politician that ANOTHER NOMAD gave the video link to, not any Nomads.

wessongroup - 8-22-2016 at 06:51 PM

tol·er·ant
ˈtäl (ə ) rant/
adjective

1.showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
"we must be tolerant of others"

synonyms: open-minded, forbearing, broad-minded, liberal, unprejudiced, unbiased; antonyms: intolerant

2.(of a plant, animal, or machine) able to endure (specified conditions or treatment).
"rye is reasonably tolerant of drought" :biggrin:

[Edited on 8-23-2016 by wessongroup]

TMW - 8-22-2016 at 06:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

The only proof I've seen is the pictures DK posted and many of you don't believe it.

Many of us don't consider that to be proof of anything. What do think about this?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sea-level-rise-swa...

I found this interesting:
["Previous studies examining the risk of coastal inundation in the Pacific region have found that islands can actually keep pace with sea-level riseand sometimes even expand."]

freediverbrian - 8-22-2016 at 06:57 PM

How about a centric view . Is there global warming ? YES will we flood ? NO ! Will global warming effect hurricane's causing greater damage? YES , Will l global warming effect crop growth, rain fall, and drought ,Yes! Will we come to consensus NO!!!!

Barry A. - 8-22-2016 at 08:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

How about a centric view . Is there global warming ? YES will we flood ? NO ! Will global warming effect hurricane's causing greater damage? YES , Will l global warming effect crop growth, rain fall, and drought ,Yes! Will we come to consensus NO!!!!

You forgot to add, "is there much we can do about it?" NO

You're welcome. (-:

(Edited for spelling error)

[Edited on 8-23-2016 by Barry A.]

Bajaboy - 8-22-2016 at 08:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

You forgot to add, "is there much we can do about it?" NO

Your welcome. (-:

It's "you're" and by the way there is plenty we can do about it.

David K - 8-22-2016 at 09:44 PM

You can do all you want with taxpayers hard earned dollars but the earth's climate will continue to change as it always has. When the sea level does rise (again) and we are still here then we will either need to adapt or buy a houseboat.

Timo1 - 8-22-2016 at 10:33 PM

Ged ya done did it again !!! hahaha

rts551 - 8-22-2016 at 10:38 PM