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I can only speak for the rosarito area....i've recently been told by two prominent area natives that violence is as bad as they've seen it in a long time, tijuana/rosarito anyway. you won't hear that from the ex-pat community, of course they're locked behind their gated guarded walled gringo enclaves by the time the street lights come on! (I know I am) as far as property protection, get a good alarm system!

Or a guard. Isn't that what they have done in the Gonzaga Bay area?

willardguy - 10-19-2016 at 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

Or a guard. Isn't that what they have done in the Gonzaga Bay area?

problem with guards is you always know where they are.....or aren't!

bajabuddha - 10-19-2016 at 11:59 AM

You'll notice almost every casa in Baja has bars on the windows and doors; crime is not just for the tourist, although we set ourselves up to be easy marks. The best defense is three things; a well-trained dog, keep your third-eye open (be alert, think ahead) and if you love it, lock it. Most crimes are of opportunity and stuff 'grows legs' and disappears, usually right from under your nose.

del mar - 10-19-2016 at 12:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

Or a guard. Isn't that what they have done in the Gonzaga Bay area?

problem with guards is you always know where they are.....or aren't!

and quite often not the most trustworthy hombres :no:

its the lure of easy money, its got a very strong appeal

JoeJustJoe - 10-19-2016 at 12:21 PM

Thanks for all the help on the other thread. There is a lot of comments about safety on this site. How is personal safety and property safety in Baja? Your thoughts are appreciated. Also, I'm not asking about other parts of Mexico nor The U.S. Thanks again friends.

Well what did the other posts say about safely on this site tell you? Why ask again?

I find it strange you ask members not to bring up other parts of Mexico or the US, as you seem to know those kind of comparisons do come up.

I also find it strange that all your previous posts were erased except for one other.

What's up Sweatpeas?

Why are you asking about personal safely questions? First time visitor,? Yet you're asking questions of property safety. If you don't know the answer to the first question, about personal safely, then you shouldn't even think about property safety and instead worry about hotel safely after a few visits to Baja.

[Edited on 10-19-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

Sweatpeas - 10-19-2016 at 01:14 PM

Joejustjoe you seem very confused. You may want to read my post again.

JoeJustJoe - 10-19-2016 at 02:16 PM

Joejustjoe you seem very confused. You may want to read my post again.

Sweatpeas I'm not confused at all, and I think I have your number.

What I would like to read is your other posts you wrote on this site, but for some reason they are almost all deleted and I find that very strange, either your deleted eight of your posts or a moderator erased them.

This forum is give and take. It's not one-way, you should give the reasons for your safety questions.

[Edited on 10-19-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

Sweatpeas - 10-19-2016 at 02:23 PM

Hey there Sherlock Holmes my other post is still up. So are you the forum police or just a troll? Regardless you will not be fed by me again.

DENNIS - 10-19-2016 at 02:35 PM

Joejustjoe you seem very confused. You may want to read my post again.

It's a learning process... You will learn to bypass everything Joe says. He's just an ant at a picnic. :lol:

DENNIS - 10-19-2016 at 02:37 PM

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=71712

Hey there Sherlock Holmes my other post is still up. So are you the forum police or just a troll? Regardless you will not be fed by me again.

Stick around. You'll figure it out.

David K - 10-19-2016 at 02:41 PM

LOL, you're in good form today, Dennis!

Sweatpeas - 10-20-2016 at 10:24 AM

Obviously Joejustjoe found my other thread but is to much of a "man" (or not enough) to apologize.

[Edited on 10-20-2016 by Sweatpeas]

DENNIS - 10-20-2016 at 10:59 AM

Ignore Joe. He's just......well.......Joe.

woody with a view - 10-20-2016 at 11:23 AM

Baja safety? Bring condoms.

shari - 10-20-2016 at 11:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

You'll notice almost every casa in Baja has bars on the windows and doors; crime is not just for the tourist, although we set ourselves up to be easy marks. The best defense is three things; a well-trained dog, keep your third-eye open (be alert, think ahead) and if you love it, lock it. Most crimes are of opportunity and stuff 'grows legs' and disappears, usually right from under your nose.

Depends where you are...hardly any houses have bars on the windows in Asuncion and luckily we dont have a crime problem...yes there are some things go missing when the meth heads are around but break ins are extremely rare and thank goodness in a small town, they figure out who dunnit pretty quick.

One good way to secure your property is to be respectful of the local folk and treat your neighbours well...and be generous in your town...give the cops $ for their parties, donations to clubs/sports etc. and generally take an active interest in your barrio...then your barrio will look out for you!

But danger lurks anywhere so do be mindful of your surroundings(try not to get toooo sh$tfaced) and beware of overly friendly english speaking "amigos" , crooked mechanics and certainly dont lend tools...dogs do help as does pretending you are a mean mo fo!!! :lol:

Oh and if you arrive somewhere and it feels creepy...it probably is...move on...listen to your inner voice and follow it!!

[Edited on 10-20-2016 by shari]

rts551 - 10-20-2016 at 12:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by shari

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

Oh and if you arrive somewhere and it feels creepy...it probably is...move on...listen to your inner voice and follow it!!

[Edited on 10-20-2016 by shari]

Didn't a trailer/motorhome burn up after someone broke into it not to long ago?...Sheet happens everywhere.

David K - 10-20-2016 at 01:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

Didn't a trailer/motorhome burn up after someone broke into it not to long ago?...Sheet happens everywhere.

JoeJustJoe - 10-20-2016 at 01:13 PM

Obviously Joejustjoe found my other thread but is to much of a "man" (or not enough) to apologize.

Sweatpeas wrote: " Thanks for all the help on the other thread."

What other thread are you talking about?

You have 13 posts now, yet only four posts show up in the search function?

What happened to the other nine posts? I ask, because when posts are removed that's one of the sure signs a troll is around.

If I were to guess, you go around asking questions in threads, yet you never offer useful information for others. You don't even give a reason for your safely questions.

There is nothing wrong with asking newbie questions, but if you do, you should also include the reasons why you're asking.

Have you ever been to Mexico before?

Do you have a upcoming trip to Mexico?

Are you looking to buy property in Mexico?

What's your story?

Forums are usually give and take.

willardguy - 10-20-2016 at 01:28 PM

Obviously Joejustjoe found my other thread but is to much of a "man" (or not enough) to apologize.

funny...I see all 13! and who cares? :rolleyes:

rts551 - 10-20-2016 at 01:39 PM

Obviously Joejustjoe found my other thread but is to much of a "man" (or not enough) to apologize.

funny...I see all 13! and who cares? :rolleyes:

I see them all as well...Maybe Joe is looking with one eye closed? :lol:

David K - 10-20-2016 at 01:44 PM

Joe, you simply click the "FIND" button under anyone's post to see all their posts. sweatpeas pops up with 13 posts shown when I just clicked FIND under his post above.

JoeJustJoe - 10-20-2016 at 01:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS

Ignore Joe. He's just......well.......Joe.

Lets, just say Dennis and I go way back, and we don't like each other, and we have opposite views on just about everything.

I'll take the high road, and really don't want to make Dennis cry with my own insults back to him. What I could never understand, is why you people here on "Baja Nomad" seem to like Dennis? Who your friends are often speaks volumes about you yourself.

But these kind of threads are like pet peeves to me.

You'll see threads like this all the time on Mexico or Baja forums, where somebody will ask the question, " IS MEXICO SAFE?"

There is a wide variation of this question, "IS MEXICO SAFE," other examples, are IS BAJA SAFE?, IS TIJUANA SAFE?, IS CANCUN SAFE?, AM I SAFE IN MEXICO? ARE MEXICO HOTELS SAFE? THERE ARE OTHER BAJA FORUMS, THAT WANT TO KNOW IF MEXICO SEX WORKERS ARE SAFE, AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS WITH THE VARIATIONS ON THE MEXICO SAFETY QUESTION.

Since this question is one of my pet peeves, I think the appropriate answer to give back is, "NO MEXICO IS NOT SAFE" SO FIND A NICE MEXICAN RESTAURANT IN THE STATES FOR THAT NICE AUTHENTIC MEXICAN EXPERIENCE AND JUST STAY HOME.

How do you really answer a question like this, Is Mexico safe? Do you hear the same stupid question about the USA.....IS the US safe?

Generally speaking the USA is safe, but so is Mexico. Except in both countries there are some very bad places, and Mexico does have it's share of very bad bad people as Trump would say. Mexico can never be totality safe, but you can say the same thing about crossing the street.

Another thing you would do is refer them to the US State department website without the other advice they probably aren't even listening to you about anyway.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings...

But instead we get threads after threads of well meaning advice, like "always keep your head on a swivel when walking alone in Mexico, especially at night. Some say never drive or walk around in Mexico when it's dark, it's like they think Mexicans muggers are vampires and only come out at night. One of my favorite safety advise I often hear, is when walking in Tijuana, hide your money in your shoes, from corrupt TJ cops and the muggers, like they don't know scared gringos hide their money in their shoes.

My experience tells me it's just not the newbies asking "IS MEXICO SAFE QUESTIONS" but scared season veterans to Mexico, often repeat this same question, over and over and over again ad nauseam.

[Edited on 10-20-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

JoeJustJoe - 10-20-2016 at 01:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Joe, you simply click the "FIND" button under anyone's post to see all their posts. sweatpeas pops up with 13 posts shown when I just clicked FIND under his post above.

I see only four and I use the search function all the time. Did you actually read all 13?

If I'm wrong then I'm wrong.

BTW, whenever I suspect a troll is posting, I like to look at their previous posts to get a feeling where they are coming and get a sense of who they are, and it's a great way to sometimes catch people in lies.

It's been my experience people are more truthful in their early posts, than their later posts, when their online persona kicks in of somebody they would like to be.

I'm just passing this little information on which has nothing to do with this thread.

I also have a standing rule of rarely if ever responding to newbies with less than 100 posts, and that rule has served me well for a few years now. I should have followed my own rule book. That rule is in place, because I have followers who will use second handles to troll me, and because generally I dislike newbies.

[Edited on 10-20-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

norte - 10-20-2016 at 03:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Joe, you simply click the "FIND" button under anyone's post to see all their posts. sweatpeas pops up with 13 posts shown when I just clicked FIND under his post above.

Then make it easy.. delete your posts and go away. Baja and Mexico is not as safe as you make it out to be.

Alm - 10-20-2016 at 03:54 PM

Thanks for all the help on the other thread. There is a lot of comments about safety on this site. How is personal safety and property safety in Baja?

IMO there is very little talk about safety on this site (compared to other parts of Mexico), but "little" is not an exact quantitative measure so I'll let it slip.

What "property"? In your "other thread" you asked about bringing an small solar aircraft to Baja. Somehow I've missed when and how the discussion turned to property issues, - other than the aircraft itself.

DENNIS - 10-20-2016 at 04:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte

Then make it easy.. delete your posts and go away. Baja and Mexico is not as safe as you make it out to be.

I would rather see Joe than censorship.

norte - 10-20-2016 at 04:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote: Originally posted by norte

Then make it easy.. delete your posts and go away. Baja and Mexico is not as safe as you make it out to be.

I would rather see Joe than censorship.

No censorship, or maybe self censorship.... he stated he normally does not lower himself to comment on a newbies post...so I was giving him an easy way out...

Sweatpeas - 10-20-2016 at 05:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Joe, you simply click the "FIND" button under anyone's post to see all their posts. sweatpeas pops up with 13 posts shown when I just clicked FIND under his post above.

are you still trying to put words together?

JoeJustJoe - 10-20-2016 at 06:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte

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No censorship, or maybe self censorship.... he stated he normally does not lower himself to comment on a newbies post...so I was giving him an easy way out...

Sorry, I'm not going anywhere, and it was a mistake to talk to a newbie in the first place, although I still can't help but feel Sweetpea isn't a newbie.

Oh no, it looks like we have an ALARMIST in our midst with Norte!

Mexico alarmists, are the type whenever they see a story from " Borderland Beat" or equivalent scary Mexico site, they re-post it or comment on it, saying, " you see how dangerous Mexico is, and I guess they go hide under the covers, and scare themselves.

Here are just three of Norte's alarmists type posts about Mexico from just a one minute search:
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Yes, Norte, just avoid all of Mexico.
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Norte wrote: Instead of trying to decide which one is worse. why not avoid them all? Unless of course, you are trying to justify your own poor decision making.
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Norte wrote: And this from the drama king? Why don't you just admit you were wrong ad Burbey was arrested. This all just anther good reason to stay away from Mexico.
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Norte wrote: Carjackings, 3 people dead from automatic weapon fire, yes lets ignore any warnings. Come on down and feed our criminals.
___________________________

Norte wrote: When are people going to wake up and heed the warnings.

MMc - 10-20-2016 at 07:05 PM

In regards to safety, I tell folks If you are not comfortable going to Baja don't go. If you are on the fence, I would go and keep your eyes open. Life has risks. I have never stopped going. I understand the risk and choose to go. Your mileage may vary.

[Edited on 10-21-2016 by MMc]

rts551 - 10-20-2016 at 07:09 PM

Being a victim of crime changes your perspective dramatically.

MMc - 10-20-2016 at 08:29 PM

Yep! My first house was broken into 3 times before I sold it. the 2 ed house was broken into once. Every time I lost things that were important to me, not of major value.
I now use the "walkaway theory of travel" if you can't drop it, and walk away don't take it. Goes for all my international travel.

Alm - 10-20-2016 at 11:34 PM

it was a mistake to talk to a newbie in the first place, although I still can't help but feel Sweetpea isn't a newbie.

Everybody was a newbie at some time. Still, generic questions like the OP - very general and yet aimed at a wide range of hot issues - those are usually not a good sign. Zero details. What "property", what "safety", where in "Baja" - who knows... One can't expect meaningful answers to questions like this. But, with a hot issue a heated debate is guaranteed. Whether he planned it this way or - to put it mildly - not insightful enough to foresee the consequences of his actions

- I don't know. Can be both.

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 08:30 AM

Yep! My first house was broken into 3 times before I sold it. the 2 ed house was broken into once. Every time I lost things that were important to me, not of major value.
I now use the "walkaway theory of travel" if you can't drop it, and walk away don't take it. Goes for all my international travel.

Sorry about your losses Mmc. Where did you live when these break-ins occurred?

Martyman - 10-21-2016 at 08:47 AM

[rquote=1052631&tid=84316&author=JoeJustJoe
What I could never understand, is why you people here on "Baja Nomad" seem to like Dennis?
[Edited on 10-20-2016 by JoeJustJoe][/rquote]

Because he's f-ing funny! He is able to articulate for most of us grumpy dudes!

MMc - 10-21-2016 at 09:12 AM

My first place was in the Rosarito and we co owned it. The second was in Ensenada, I will be moving back to Ensenada when I retire. I live In the greater L A area.

Sorry about your losses Mmc. Where did you live when these break-ins occurred?

Alm - 10-21-2016 at 10:27 AM

Mmc, a heads-up: Sweatpeas doesn't live in Baja, doesn't rent, doesn't own. No housing of any kind to worry about. No plans to move into any particular area.
At least, this is what we know.

[Edited on 10-21-2016 by Alm]

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 11:00 AM

Mmc, a heads-up: Sweatpeas doesn't live in Baja, doesn't rent, doesn't own. No housing of any kind to worry about. No plans to move into any particular area.
At least, this is what we know.

[Edited on 10-21-2016 by Alm]

Yes Mmc, I am just trying to obtain your pin number for your ATM obviously.

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 11:02 AM

and what do we know about Alm? Oh that's right, nobody cares! :lol:

willardguy - 10-21-2016 at 11:14 AM

and what do we know about Alm? Oh that's right, nobody cares! :lol:

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 11:18 AM

and what do we know about Alm? Oh that's right, nobody cares! :lol:

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

It seems most of these people are good guys. Then you just have the jealous types who probably didn't save any money from their government handouts and the envy eats them alive.

MMc - 10-21-2016 at 12:08 PM

Alm, It seems the Sweetpea is looking to explore a bit, I hope he/she ventures forth and gets the feaver.

Alm - 10-21-2016 at 03:33 PM

Alm, It seems the Sweetpea is looking to explore a bit, I hope he/she ventures forth and gets the feaver.

I hope too that he/she will get whatever they deserve.

When somebody starts asking questions about safety the way it was asked, the situation doesn't feel safe to me - pun intended.

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 03:49 PM

Alm, It seems the Sweetpea is looking to explore a bit, I hope he/she ventures forth and gets the feaver.

I hope too that he/she will get whatever they deserve.

When somebody starts asking questions about safety the way it was asked, the situation doesn't feel safe to me - pun intended.

When somebody starts asking, you can place the tin foil hat on your head and move on.

mtgoat666 - 10-21-2016 at 03:53 PM

What was the question?

dtbushpilot - 10-21-2016 at 04:17 PM

and what do we know about Alm? Oh that's right, nobody cares! :lol:

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

[/quote

It seems most of these people are good guys. Then you just have the jealous types who probably didn't save any money from their government handouts and the envy eats them alive.[/

You have an uncanny grasp of the reality of all that is Nomads....welcome aboard, me thinks you have been here for a while... :biggrin:

[Edited on 10-21-2016 by dtbushpilot]

JoeJustJoe - 10-21-2016 at 04:41 PM

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

I think after the rousing welcome that others are going to adopt my forum rule of not talking to newbies until they reach at least 100 posts.

Did you see the OP's post on his other thread where if his solar aircraft goes down, he will just jump out a few feet before it makes impact!"

SP wrote: "If the craft goes down, I'll just jump out a few feet before it makes impact."

Yeah, I think I'm going to try that on a commercial airline too. And I do think I do understand that a solar aircraft goes a lot slower than a commercial jet or small aircraft, but still it makes you wonder if the OP is playing with a full deck.

What really seems out of whack is we have such a brave person claiming to fly on kinda an experiential aircraft or unusual and possibly a dangerous way of flying, and here he is worried about the dangers of Mexico.

Sweatpeas - 10-21-2016 at 04:51 PM

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

Joejustjoe, If you land on your feet or side you will easily survive.

norte - 10-21-2016 at 04:58 PM

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

Joejustjoe, If you land on your feet or side you will easily survive.

I just wish at some point Joe Jis Joe would just land on feet.

mtgoat666 - 10-21-2016 at 04:59 PM

Just thank god that the newbie isn't asking about fmms and tire pressure!

I suspect he carries his little hang glider in a Toyota Tacoma, eh?

so after this rousing welcome what do think of bajablowhards so far :light:

BajaNomad - 10-21-2016 at 06:19 PM

Mmc, a heads-up: Sweatpeas doesn't live in Baja....

..but posts from there. Not TJ. Just sayin'.

Caveat emptor.

[Edited on 10-22-2016 by BajaNomad]

motoged - 10-22-2016 at 01:49 PM

...still not sure this "pilot" is serious....how about some pics of the poster w/ the plane....which is experimental as well as "experiential"
:?:

Alm - 10-22-2016 at 03:41 PM

Moto, in light of what the Admin has just reported, the pilot is not serious about quite a few things.

Whatever it is, it is not what it's trying to look like.

motoged - 10-22-2016 at 05:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Martyman

[rquote=1052631&tid=84316&author=JoeJustJoe
What I could never understand, is why you people here on "Baja Nomad" seem to like Dennis?
[Edited on 10-20-2016 by JoeJustJoe][/rquote]

Because he's f-ing funny! He is able to articulate for most of us grumpy dudes!

Well, I can be a grumpy dude but Dennis doesn't articulate anything for me....seems like he articulates his elbow more... :lol:

DENNIS - 10-22-2016 at 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Well, I can be a grumpy dude but Dennis doesn't articulate anything for me....seems like he articulates his elbow more... :lol:

As you sit at your Commodore articulating your wrist throughout the day. Don't you have a job or something like that...or does the Canada taxpayer support your sloth?

willardguy - 10-22-2016 at 07:29 PM

its just........sad.. :no:

mtgoat666 - 10-22-2016 at 07:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Well, I can be a grumpy dude but Dennis doesn't articulate anything for me....seems like he articulates his elbow more... :lol:

As you sit at your Commodore articulating your wrist throughout the day. Don't you have a job or something like that...or does the Canada taxpayer support your sloth?

Dennis,
We liked you better when you quit drinking. Now that you are off the wagon, you're just a mean drunk.

DENNIS - 10-23-2016 at 07:38 AM

You have no idea of what I do......and never will.

JoeJustJoe - 10-23-2016 at 08:50 AM