BajaNomad - Cartel San Jose Shootings

This article says the violence in La Paz (which is worse than San Jose) is reversed. good luck... Most people NOB want to ignore it or are in denial. yesterday car stopped and robbed on the hiway by Guerrero Negro.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/la-violencia-en-la-paz-se-ha-rever...

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/ciudadanos-de-loreto-fueron-asalta...

IMO we NOB folk are not in denial. The crime that goes on in phoenix and the surrounding area alone makes Baja norte & sur sound like a great vaca spot

JoeJustJoe - 11-17-2016 at 09:39 PM

Kencolamarino, do you have any documentation, articles or anything that shows there has been 20 shootings in Los Cabos, during the last two weeks, as well as the changing of the rules you talk about?

You also seem to mention your Primo in most of your posts. Is your Primo is where you are getting all this information from? Who is this Primo, who takes center stage in all your posts?

Kencolamarino, I can't help but get a sense of panic from you about about Los Cabos, despite the fact the US State Department only tells us to exercise caution in the area, and although homicide rates are rising, many of those homicides took place in La Paz where there is an increase of public acts of violence between rival criminal organizations.

In other words American tourists are not being targeted.

Kencolamarino, in one of your other posts, you state you're former SF ( special forces) and former LE( law enforcement) and you brought guns into Mexico legally.

C'mon, Kencolamarino, get a grip. There were 25.8 million international tourists to Mexico in 2015, and almost all of them made it back home safely despite an uptick in homicides in a few areas of Mexico.

Lee - 11-17-2016 at 11:19 PM

Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot. Like a broken record, this stuff comes around regularly. Baja is a dangerous place. Leave while you can.

mtgoat666 - 11-18-2016 at 06:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot.

Relax? I recommend staying alert and vigilant.
Highway robberies are happening. Don't drive at night.
The trend appears to be worsening crime.

rts551 - 11-18-2016 at 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot. Like a broken record, this stuff comes around regularly. Baja is a dangerous place. Leave while you can.

Yes that is correct. Just relax. That is why the local news is recommending not to travel this section at night OR early morning. Local police are telling me to avoid Guerrero Negro altogether right now. This article also talks about a local vendor beaton and robbed of 4000 pesos. Yes, just relax.
http://guerrerodesal.com.previewc75.carrierzone.com/reportan...

[Edited on 11-18-2016 by rts551]

shari - 11-18-2016 at 08:17 AM

We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark.

gnukid - 11-18-2016 at 08:18 AM

Being realistic would help. violence and crimes in BCS are rampant. There is a significant increase in violent crime and theft in BCS. There is little being done to stop it, policing and courts are of little help. You should expect to encounter a problem with criminal activity and have a plan.

Do not carry valuables or for that matter do not purchase or keep with you or in your home anything extra or unneeded. You should not leave valuables in the car or anywhere visible unattended. Keep vigilance high, use security systems, have someone in the home at all times when possible, do not leave you home unattended. Use security cameras. Lock everything and review to be sure things are well locked up. Open your eyes. Report to the pubic what issues you encounter and be clear about what risks exists. If you see something do everything possible to draw attention, inform others, take photo and video of criminal suspects and be willing to help victims.

Ignoring the issue and acting like it isn't happening or its not a problem is not the answer. Understanding that criminal justice is practically non existent in bcs is a place to start.

Do nto trust people without building a long history.

Be a good neighbor.

[Edited on 11-18-2016 by gnukid]

rts551 - 11-18-2016 at 08:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt

IMO we NOB folk are not in denial. The crime that goes on in phoenix and the surrounding area alone makes Baja norte & sur sound like a great vaca spot

I suggest that people be aware of their surroundings when in certain areas of Baja while they are there and not worry about Phoenix.

Read the baja forums and many people (NOB people) tell you not to worry, its all drug related. While it is drug related, you can get caught up in it as the few people in Guerrero Negro have.

Read BCSNoticias.com and you will read of the constant violance in BCS with innocent people getting caught in the middle some times. or other crime like the 4 year old girl raped and killed the other day in La Paz. Home break ins have become common place.

The Baja Peninsula is changing.

rts551 - 11-18-2016 at 08:29 AM

We came home from GN late yesterday afternoon at dusk and we are extra vigilant as the holidays grow nearer...we are always hyper aware of cars passing us, behind us etc. and really try to avoid traveling after dark.

I sure would. The guy that robbed my house and stole my car in June is the same guy that robbed the bus at gun point last month. Did he have a gun while burglarizing my house...I don't know but obviously I am extra vigilant right now.

JoeJustJoe - 11-18-2016 at 09:34 AM

How do you know the same guy that robbed your house and stole your car is the same guy who robbed that bus at gun point last month?

It doesn't sound like you were home during the robbery.

Did the guy use your car during the robbery or did he confess to committing both crimes?

What I recommend is getting a dog. I been a home owner for at least 30 years in many places, and never had a break-in, although many other homes have been hit by home break-ins wherever I lived, because crimes and violence happen everywhere.

I even recommend a dog(s) over owning a gun, because there is a chance if a home robbery did take place, the gun would be taken away from the home owner, and used against them.

rts551 - 11-18-2016 at 09:48 AM

Police said he did it (along with others), that is how I know (He advertised my generator for sale but police said he no longer had it). I was home, asleep. Dog was with my wife who was up North. Grandson and I were home. Now you can quit the conjecture. Could be someone scoped things out first.
I would not tell you or anyone else if I had a gun here. Yes, a noisy dog is always a plus.

BajaBlanca - 11-18-2016 at 12:02 PM

Baja is changing and right before our eyes.....robberies were rampant for months here in town - for years no one locked car or house. ever.

now, we don't leave the house to go to the corner without locking up tight.

Baja is changing right before our eyes. La Bocana doesn't compare to other towns but it makes it no less awful.

Lee - 11-18-2016 at 12:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

Relax. If you're not involved with drugs, it's improbable you'll be shot.

Relax? I recommend staying alert and vigilant.
Highway robberies are happening. Don't drive at night.
The trend appears to be worsening crime.

Being alert and vigilent not mutually exclusive. Can you be vigilent and have fun?

Everything is changing. So what. Sounds like the OP is succeeding in frightening folks here. If this is what it takes to wake up, you've been behind the curve.

Pay attention. Expect the unexpected.

JoeJustJoe - 11-18-2016 at 02:16 PM

So I guess you are one of the few crime victims in Baja, where the perpetrator was actually caught!

That's amazing, because I read the arrests and especially the conviction rate in Baja, is very very low.

But then you said in your other posts, that you garage was broken into, and the car was stolen, which is a little different than you recent story, which implies a home invasion.

In your other posts you mention the bus incident, where the bus driver and passengers were robbed at gun point, and there is an article about the bus incident, but then you also say that perpetrator with the gun on the bus, was the same person who committed the home invasion and stole your car!

So let me get this straight, after the Mexican police, caught the gun-wielding bus robber, who robbed a bus load of people, and got him to also confess to the crime of breaking in your home, and stealing your car and other items.

The Mexican police, just let a dangerous criminal go, because of procedural errors, which you believe is really because you didn't pay a bribe to the cops to keep the dangerous robber in jail.

Like I said, Amazing!

[Edited on 11-18-2016 by JoeJustJoe]

rts551 - 11-18-2016 at 02:42 PM