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baja divide bicycle route

joerover - 11-25-2016 at 07:45 PM

https://bajadivide.com/
Some clever cyclists came up with a dirt road bicycle route. The girl, who helped map the route, won a race across the Usa, from Astoria Oregon too Yorktown Virgina. Yes she beat the men, even the ones from Europe. She averaged 235 miles per day.

What about the rest of the slow out of shape bike pedalers like me, using their route for a guide line while they pedal down the Baja?
https://bajadivide.com/mapping/
How can we get the nomads to put put a few extra 5 liter water bottles in their cars and trucks, as they drive near this route? They said the level of interest in the baja divide bike route is overwelming. I would bet that most of the cyclists do not realize how difficult the route is. Be an angel and give water to a passing cyclist. Many a cyclist could tell a bored nomad an intersting story.

TMW - 11-25-2016 at 09:43 PM

A very big undertaking to say the least. It would be nice if they provided a GPS file to convert to GE or a Google Earth file. From what I see everything is tied to an interactive Memory map. I would like to plot the course on GE and either print out the sections or store them on my Laptop for use if I'm down for it.

mtgoat666 - 11-25-2016 at 10:07 PM

Baja divide is a nice route. But it's a bit more interesting if you straighten some of the zig zags and go straight thru several of the mountain areas such as SPM, SSF and south of SI.

Re re-supply, the website gives the newbie a pretty good run down of distances between stores, and where to deviate from track to find store for resupply.


ehall - 11-26-2016 at 05:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A very big undertaking to say the least. It would be nice if they provided a GPS file to convert to GE or a Google Earth file. From what I see everything is tied to an interactive Memory map. I would like to plot the course on GE and either print out the sections or store them on my Laptop for use if I'm down for it.



Hey Tom , I don't remember how I did it but I got it on Ge. Not sure but I might of used gps visualizer website.

joerover - 11-26-2016 at 06:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A very big undertaking to say the least. It would be nice if they provided a GPS file to convert to GE or a Google Earth file. From what I see everything is tied to an interactive Memory map. I would like to plot the course on GE and either print out the sections or store them on my Laptop for use if I'm down for it.


They have gps files, free to down load, They made mention of some adjustments being made.

What do you guys think of the section heading into El Arco? I am guessing, that is the longest stretch without water?
Anyone been on the section north of La Paz? I wanted to try that road for a long time, but never made it. Maybe I should find Punta Concepcion on the map.

I am more likely to use alternet routes than most of the other cyclists. Because I like to visit cave paintings and other old things. Did David K post the gps locations of all those old missions somewhere. The couple of times I rode my bicycle to a BCS mission, were a challange to say the least.



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TMW - 11-27-2016 at 08:09 AM

I've clicked on everything I see on their site and I get a lot of stuff but I don't see a GPS file to download. I get an interactive Memory Map, I get way points and descriptions of the route with mileages. If someone can show me a GPS file I would appreciate it.

mtgoat666 - 11-27-2016 at 08:28 AM

"Mapping" Link below takes you to map page. From there it Directs you to get files from google drive.
Easy peasy!



Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
https://bajadivide.com/
Some clever cyclists came up with a dirt road bicycle route. The girl, who helped map the route, won a race across the Usa, from Astoria Oregon too Yorktown Virgina. Yes she beat the men, even the ones from Europe. She averaged 235 miles per day.

What about the rest of the slow out of shape bike pedalers like me, using their route for a guide line while they pedal down the Baja?
https://bajadivide.com/mapping/
How can we get the nomads to put put a few extra 5 liter water bottles in their cars and trucks, as they drive near this route? They said the level of interest in the baja divide bike route is overwelming. I would bet that most of the cyclists do not realize how difficult the route is. Be an angel and give water to a passing cyclist. Many a cyclist could tell a bored nomad an intersting story.

joerover - 11-28-2016 at 08:27 PM

Did anyone notice some places of interest along the bike route? Such as archaeological sites. Places of interest that should seen.

David K - 11-28-2016 at 09:26 PM

There crazy zig zag route is taking them all over the peninsula. It would be impossible to not be near many great sites... Baja has so many, afterall!

joerover - 11-29-2016 at 06:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
There crazy zig zag route is taking them all over the peninsula. It would be impossible to not be near many great sites... Baja has so many, afterall!


Most of the missions are on my National Geographic map. What about archaeological sites, is there a map or book , a good resource for that? I have not been in BCS for 5 years. I chanced upon undocumented sites a few times. A thousand year old fire pit. cave shelters. People lived there long ago.

joerover - 2-9-2017 at 01:15 AM

times are changing. Younger people are posting bicycle routes on the web, no more guess work for me.

I mailed my bike case to a nomad. Guess what. It was waiting for in in La Paz about 3 kilometers from the airport, (thanks), (thanks very much).


People continue to ask if I have enough water, and fill one of my 40 ounce bottles if I needed some.


A couple of quad rideing nomads stopped at the bottom of the above hill. I know they were nomads from way back, because they complained about bicycles blocking traffic on Mx1, Then they gave me a bag of cookies.
(Of the 500? miles I rode, perhaps 30 were on MX1.)




y asi, mas dias de color

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCNWCSCr54

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[Edited on 12-2-2017 by BajaNomad]

Bike case

fixtrauma - 2-9-2017 at 01:46 AM

Sorry we missed you today to deliver your case in person. We took friends to the airport today in San Jose del Cabo. I was hoping to hear a few stories of your ride. I will watch for some on the site. We were glad to bring the case to La Paz for you.

mtgoat666 - 2-9-2017 at 07:17 AM

Joe,
That is quite an feat! You have accomplished a great thing, done a great baja adventure, more than most nomads ever will, you should be promoted to "most exalted uber special" nomad status!

Looking forward to your trip report!

joerover - 2-9-2017 at 01:53 PM

The PCT is an old Indian trail, trade route. Brought back to life over the last 70 years, by gringos that like to walk a lot. A few remnants can be found in Baja. It is maintained by volunteers and the through hiking permit is free.

"Has there ever been a discussion by any entity for the same to be replicated through Baja?"
Yes, all talk no action.

" most exalted uber special" nomad status!"
No. Other people rode much further than I did. I rode Baja sur, and a little of Baja norte. "most exalted uber special" nomad status!" Perhaps the cartographers of the baja divide bike route could be awarded a fancy sombrero or elevated too "most exalted uber special" nomad status! It is good that the scouts posted a route that does not require me to push up the side of a mountain for hours on end. As I have done so many times before.

" posted on 2-9-2017 at 00:46
Bike case
Sorry we missed you today"

I picked it up on 2-5-2017 around 8 am.
Thanks for your help
Yes
thanks very much!

Bandidos on the Baja Divide

joerover - 2-9-2017 at 02:01 PM

****ing bandidos


cut and paste from the baja divide web page


Keith
JANUARY 17, 2017 AT 7:08 PM
Hey folks! My buddy and I started the Baja Divide recently and unfortunately we got robbed at gunpoint right outside of Tecate at the marked possible campsite in Canon Manteca. Our unfriendly assailant was on a bike as well and we believe that we just had some bad luck and happened to pass this ******* right before we descended the canyon. He then passed us again at full speed going towards the canyon and we think he laid in wait for us to pass him and for us to be in the canyon away from other people. He waited until nightfall to rob us, and was wearing a hoodie, mask and baseball cap, so we have no idea what he looked like other than that he was young male and skinny, riding an older mountain bike. The fact that he was on a bicycle leads us to believe that he lives in the area. To avoid the same experience, we reccomend the following:

1) Don’t arrive to Canon Manteca around nightfall.
2) Don’t camp in plain view of the road.
3) Beware of any cyclists that pass you twice.
4) Consider camping further down the route from Canon Manteca.
5) Have good travelers insurance!!!

Bottom line: We ran into some bad luck but still have our bikes, almost all our gear and our lives (also he didn’t steal our beer, so that was a big plus).

We plan on continuing our trip although we will be exploring an alternate, less remote route as we now lack GPS capabilities. Everyone in Baja has been super friendly and we aren’t gonna let some lone ranger piece-of-**** ruin our trip. In fact, I think a cold Tecate and some tacos are calling my name right now! Happy biking people!

REPLY
gypsybytrade
JANUARY 24, 2017 AT 5:07 PM
Keith,

It concerns me to hear this. Most of us that have spent time on route can attest to the fact that Baja feels very safe. I appreciate that you have extended your trust in the people of Mexico even after this experience, even though you were only a day or two across the border.

Considering that this seems premeditated, someone in Tecate has taken notice to the pattern of riders through town and into the backcountry. I surely hope this never happens again, but to avoid risk, I think the best solution is for riders to leave Tecate during the morning and continue down the route before camping in the backcountry, farther away from town. I personally do not mind camping in sight of the road and I enjoy meeting passing locals, but as a general precaution camping just out of sight makes sense, at least enough so that a passing car in the night does not take notice.

It is my understanding that the police in Baja are strongly invested in protecting the tourism industry so if you have not reported the incident already, I would recommend that you do so. I have a contact at the Bureau of Tourism who is very supportive of the route project, I will reach out to him to notify local authorities of this incident. If you have not reported the incident, perhaps you can confer with Salvador at FASS Bike to make a report locally, and the document can be forwarded to Tecate.

I don’t intend to change the route at the moment. This is the best routes out of Tecate on dirt, and even if we redirected riders we could not ensure that something similar cannot happen along another route. However, if anyone else reports suspicious activity near Tecate, I will be forced to make changes to the routing in this region, which would necessarily require more paved riding.

You can contact me with any questions or concerns at bajadivide@gmail.com.

Nicholas


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mtgoat666 - 2-9-2017 at 02:18 PM

Bummer about the robbery near tecate. That area has some sketchy characters. I would not recommend remote camping near the border and border towns.

Doug/Vamonos - 2-9-2017 at 06:53 PM

This winter I met a bunch of bikers in the Bay on each trip doing this route. All young. It seems to be super popular. Looks like fun but I like my bikes with a motor attached!

honda tom - 2-10-2017 at 03:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mulegé to Punta Concepcion may require some additional assistance!


HA! funny

joerover - 2-17-2017 at 09:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Muleg� to Punta Concepcion may require some additional assistance!


Maybe the girl that maped the baja divide bike route finds it easy to get a boat ride froma fisherman.



Wish I could remember which setting I used, cameras have so many buttons these days.






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move over and let her go by

joerover - 3-3-2017 at 04:27 PM

Watch out, The fastest girl on a two wheels is setting the fastest know time of the baja divide bike route.
http://trackleaders.com/bajadivide17
https://bajadivide.com/2017/03/02/lael-wilcox-departs-tecate...

She started 34 hours ago in Tecate and is past Rancho Coyote comming up on Vicente Guerrero. They guess 10 or 12 days, Looks more like 9 at this pace.



not always easy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KewfYKJy8YU



[Edited on 3-3-2017 by joerover]

[Edited on 4-2-2017 by joerover]

[Edited on 12-2-2017 by BajaNomad]

mtgoat666 - 3-3-2017 at 04:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Watch out, The fastest girl on a two wheels is setting the fastest know time of the baja divide bike route.
http://trackleaders.com/bajadivide17
https://bajadivide.com/2017/03/02/lael-wilcox-departs-tecate...

She started 34 fours ago in Tecate and is past Rancho Coyote comming up on Vicente Guerrero. They guess 10 or 12 days, Looks more like 9 at this pace.


9 days, impressive.
Those 29 wheels look really big relative to her, in the picture, she must be sort of short and riding a smallish frame. Seems to me that 29 wheels on a small/short frame doesn't make sense.

joerover - 3-3-2017 at 05:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


9 days, impressive.
Those 29 wheels look really big relative to her, in the picture, she must be sort of short and riding a smallish frame. Seems to me that 29 wheels on a small/short frame doesn't make sense.


29 inch wheels are faster for cross country riding. They make small and some companys make xs frames with 29 inch wheels. The bigger wheels go over the bumps with less effort. The 27.5 x 3 inch wide tires float better in the sand, but weigh more and the extra weight slows you down. I am going to guess the girl (Lael Wilcox,) is 5 feet 7 inches, most likely rides a medium. If she is on a small, it is to save weight. Some racers ride a smaller bike for more speed. A shorter wheel base is faster also. I want as big a frame as I can handle for comfort. The longer wheel base is also safer.

I had to buy a 26 inch wheeled bike. My 29er is collecting dust for now. The guy on the 27.5 x 3 cut the side wall on his tire. He patched it up the best he could. He could not buy a new tire between Ensenada and La Paz. I cut my side wall on my 26er. My Orange seal tubeless sealant fixed the leak. I can buy a new tire in most any town or even from a rancho.

Pushing bikes up hill, I slowley passed the guy on the 27.5 x 3. He passsed me as I struggled through some sand. I passed him pushing up the next hill. He passed me coasting down a long hill, I had to hit the brakes in some rough stuff. I had 26 x 2.4

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joerover - 3-3-2017 at 06:04 PM

I have pedaled from Ensenada to Uruapan to Ojos Negros to Tecate. The fastest was 3 days. I have spent 10 days in them hills more than just a couple of times.

She did it 1

on the other hand,

I have storys to tell of mountain lions, vaqueros, wild pigs, bandidos con placas, even a blizard in parque 1857.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSH9vwZyb4

AKgringo - 3-3-2017 at 06:42 PM

Joe, for what it is worth, I encountered four seperat groups of riders between San Javier and B.O.L.A. between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

I asked all of them if they needed any water, fresh fruit, anything else? While they all appreciated the offer, only two groups took me up on it, and took a refreshment break!

There was one solo rider south of B.O.L.A. that seemed annoyed and did not even stop. I think he was trying to catch up to the other riders that were about 20 miles ahead of him!

mtgoat666 - 3-4-2017 at 08:58 AM

There is a video interview of her on the Facebook page for San Quintin al Dia.


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Watch out, The fastest girl on a two wheels is setting the fastest know time of the baja divide bike route.
http://trackleaders.com/bajadivide17
https://bajadivide.com/2017/03/02/lael-wilcox-departs-tecate...

She started 34 fours ago in Tecate and is past Rancho Coyote comming up on Vicente Guerrero. They guess 10 or 12 days, Looks more like 9 at this pace.


9 days, impressive.
Those 29 wheels look really big relative to her, in the picture, she must be sort of short and riding a smallish frame. Seems to me that 29 wheels on a small/short frame doesn't make sense.

joerover - 3-4-2017 at 04:39 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XGX98OW4Rc
Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  

I asked all of them if they needed any water, fresh fruit, anything else? While they all appreciated the offer, only two groups took me up on it, and took a refreshment break!


Most of the time your bicycle is to heavy and you do not want more stuff. On the other hand, when the tienda was closed 3 towns in a row, I was really happy to have people stop and offer me water.



[Edited on 3-4-2017 by joerover]

joerover - 4-1-2017 at 09:10 PM

Fastest know time on the Baja divide bike route
11 days 13 hours 2 minutes
Tecate to Cabo
girl in video (Lael,) set the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZgO_oZBZU

another Baja Divide video
http://www.bikepacking.com/plog/baja-divide-film/

joerover - 11-29-2017 at 08:43 PM

Well it is time again.
Any word on el nino?
Is he sleeping?

Any ideas for a new alternate route?
Any ideas about my personal interest, cave paintings along the baja divide bicycle route?

Or, is it back to cycling alone, everyone else lost interest?

Why do we always return to baja?

It is hard and unforgiving

There is little water

we always return

[Edited on 11-30-2017 by joerover]

[Edited on 12-2-2017 by BajaNomad]

AKgringo - 11-29-2017 at 09:40 PM

Joe, I offered again this year to drive a support vehicle for my son and some of his riding companions if they wanted to do a mid winter Baja tour, but he made other plans.

By the way, he is very active in the Anchorage cycling community, and Lael Wilcox (also from Anchorage) is one of his friends. If you are ever interested in riding roads or trails under the midnight sun, U2U me sometime and I will provide his contact info.

[Edited on 11-30-2017 by AKgringo]

joerover - 11-29-2017 at 10:27 PM

I am able to ride just fast enough to get out of the way, and let those them young people pass by.

In the forseeable future, my plans include cycling in baja, Nicaragua, Guatemala, the Pacific Northwest trail, and the Great Western trail.

You know maybe.
Or.
I could sit at a computer and type about bicycles.
Or.
I could use my bicycle to search for cave paintings.

ehall - 11-30-2017 at 07:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
A very big undertaking to say the least. It would be nice if they provided a GPS file to convert to GE or a Google Earth file. From what I see everything is tied to an interactive Memory map. I would like to plot the course on GE and either print out the sections or store them on my Laptop for use if I'm down for it.


I was able to put the route on GE

StuckSucks - 11-30-2017 at 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Did anyone notice some places of interest along the bike route? Such as archaeological sites. Places of interest that should seen.


10 days ago I was at Misión San Francisco de Borja and the caretaker told me hundreds of bikes from this event had come thru a week earlier.

We even saw some new, bike-related graffito on the road to the Misión:

mtgoat666 - 11-30-2017 at 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Did anyone notice some places of interest along the bike route? Such as archaeological sites. Places of interest that should seen.


10 days ago I was at Misión San Francisco de Borja and the caretaker told me hundreds of bikes from this event had come thru a week earlier.

We even saw some new, bike-related graffito on the road to the Misión:


possibly a different event? there are 2 cross-penninsula events, one a mt bike ride, the other a hike - both get pretty big participation (several hundred or riders or hikers), and both go by mision san borja. basic route is from pacific to BOLA passing the mission

JZ - 11-30-2017 at 03:10 PM

We passed a bunch of riders last week. One group going through the mountains outside of Loreto to Insurgentes. Riding on the highway. Going up big ass grades and sharp turns.

Grueling and dangerous.

StuckSucks - 11-30-2017 at 05:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

possibly a different event? there are 2 cross-penninsula events, one a mt bike ride, the other a hike - both get pretty big participation (several hundred or riders or hikers), and both go by mision san borja. basic route is from pacific to BOLA passing the mission


Yep, could be. Hard to see in the photo after "xochi" it says 2017, so *sometime* this year.

joerover - 11-30-2017 at 07:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
Did anyone notice some places of interest along the bike route? Such as archaeological sites. Places of interest that should seen.


10 days ago I was at Misión San Francisco de Borja and the caretaker told me hundreds of bikes from this event had come thru a week earlier.

We even saw some new, bike-related graffito on the road to the Misión:


possibly a different event? there are 2 cross-penninsula events, one a mt bike ride, the other a hike - both get pretty big participation (several hundred or riders or hikers), and both go by mision san borja. basic route is from pacific to BOLA passing the mission


Seems they have a local bicycle club in the area of Montevideo or San Borja, or ?¡?¿¿ somewhere. I bumped into a group of cyclists on a 100* day leaving Montevideo, (cave paintings,) last march. I was cycling because I had opnly 5 liters of water. These guys are hardcore , cycling in a heat wave, and far from home, could be a racing club.

BajaBlanca - 12-2-2017 at 01:11 PM

Joe, those are some amazing photos! I never thought to offer cookies or water to bikers while they are riding but I have often talked to them when we meet up at tiendas in Baja.

joerover - 12-2-2017 at 07:51 PM

mardi gras ensenada 2016



baja divide 2016


still working on the night time cactus technique.

1 minute into 2017, tjtq



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[Edited on 3-2-2019 by BajaNomad]

joerover - 12-2-2017 at 07:55 PM

Montevideo



ensenada


joerover - 12-2-2017 at 08:04 PM

Back on track, thanks very much



I found some unknow, or unmapped rock art east of El Arco, less than a hundred yards of the baja divide bicycle route. I was looking for rock art at the time. Anybody know where to look for more history off the bike route?

[Edited on 12-3-2017 by joerover]

David K - 12-2-2017 at 10:28 PM

Rock art locations are in several books, many by Harry Crosby. A search on Nomad will give names and locations of many. I did a post on rock art sites next to or near roads.
As for other "history," there are old mines and missions from the 1700s to 1800s. Even mines from the 1900s are now historic as we near the year 2018.

joerover - 1-1-2018 at 09:34 PM

FKT
fastest known time

http://trackleaders.com/bajadivide17i.php?name=Lael_Wilcox
http://trackleaders.com/bajadivide17i.php?name=Pete_Basinger
Looks like Pete Basingr is about 51 minutes ahead of record pace.


Somebody give that boy a bottle of water, will you!

He started to ride his bicycle in Tecate 8 days 16 hours 6 minutes ago.
He is near Rancho Santo Domingo, about 70 miles north of Cuidad Constitucion right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmSbXsFE3l8&list=RDcmSbX...


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JZ - 1-2-2018 at 02:43 PM

We saw 4 of them out riding between BoLA and San Rafael last week.

MulegeAL - 1-2-2018 at 04:46 PM

We chatted with a solo rider today about 12 miles out from Mulege (as I was fixing a front flat!). 26 days on the route, somewhere here in M this evening.

joerover - 1-2-2018 at 11:25 PM

about 14 minutes seperate the 2 of them,
is the record being broken?
If he sleeps less than 6 hours, he will have a better lead.
Wonder if he knoes about the fresh water spring a mile or so south of San Evaristo?

[Edited on 1-3-2018 by joerover]

joerover - 1-3-2018 at 08:33 PM

It all comes down to the amount of sleep he gets tonight.
If he sleeps less than 7 hours, he wakes up with a lead.
Some of these guys sleep 3 or 4 hours a night and pedal there bicycles 200 miles a day, for days on end.

Give the cycles a little space, will you, and maybe a bottle of water too.

advrider - 1-4-2018 at 09:22 PM

We ran into several groups last year while ridding our motorcycles. Our group always slows way down and the guy ridding sweep stops to make sure they have water and supplies they need. Nothing but respect for people doing Baja on a bicycle..I'm probably good for thirty miles a week on mine, it would take me a year to pedal to the tip!

joerover - 1-4-2018 at 11:22 PM

11 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes,
Tecate to San Jose Del Cabo.

thats fast

joerover - 2-26-2019 at 08:55 PM

http://www.bikepacking.com/plog/raising-riders-baja-divide/

¨Riding the 1,700-mile Baja Divide is an ambitious plan, backed by a progression of family adventures. The kids have grown up in the wilderness, with over 500 nights camped under the stars during journeys from the Arctic to Patagonia. Our family adventures started when the kids were toddlers and we haven’t looked back, except to check that we are still together!¨

advrider - 2-27-2019 at 08:07 PM

Lucky kids! That's the way to live life...

ElCap - 2-28-2019 at 09:45 PM

Just met a young couple from Colorado along the upper Seven Sisters that were riding the Baja Divide - first I ever heard of it. We passed them on the way in from Catavina and had a brief chat, and couldn't believe it when they pedaled up to our campsite on the coast later that day at sunset. They said they covered 59 miles that day. Shared a couple of our cold Tecates with them - I think they enjoyed them!

joerover - 3-2-2019 at 01:22 PM

From my u2u

^Hey Joe. Just wondering what tire width and size you chose? Also tubeless or tubes with sealant? I live in San Juanico and want to head out and do some loops in this area. A fair amount of sand and lots of thorns. Thanks^

I use Orange Seal with tubeless tires. Slime tubes aint good enough, neither is adding Stans to your tubes. Stans notubes works, but I like Orange Seal better.

The wideest tire you can fit on the bike you have. 32mm internal width rims work well with 2.4 inch tires. Old style 22mm internal width rims are to thin for modern tubeless tires.

2.4 or 2.5 tires are not quite wide enough. 2.8 or 3 inch would be better. +tires are what they call them, you need wide rims to match the wide tires.

If you have enough money for a new bike, try one of these, flat bars are better than drop bars on lumpy old roads.
http://www.bikepacking.com/index/29-plus-bikes/
If not, get the widest tubeless tires that fit the bike you have now.

I have been to San Juanico and seen the roads up above there. You need tubeless tires.

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