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Pacific Bio Reserve...MPA?

rdrrm8e - 12-6-2016 at 02:45 PM

Has anyone seen this news story that just came out? Does it cover every island on the Pacific coast of Baja?

Will it end recreational sportfishing on the Pacific coast?


http://ens-newswire.com/2016/12/06/mexico-safeguards-vast-st...

Specifically the Pacific Biosphere Reserve?

Hook - 12-6-2016 at 03:04 PM

Mexico cant even police their inshore waters from illegal fishing. How would they ever police these vast areas?

I did notice that non-trawl fishing and MINING (such an environmentally friendly operation in a marine reserve) will be allowed.

I doubt much will change.........except the environmental organizations pushing for this probably gave millions to Mexico to "make it so" on paper.

Gee, I wonder where that money will go???

Color me skeptical.

sancho - 12-6-2016 at 03:14 PM

You got me to read some of it, does say 'Mining and fishing will be allowed there, but only without the use of trawling gear outside the strictly protected core zones, consistent with UN General Assembly resolution'. Does mention it may affect the
local coopertives, which I assume would be along the coast. I believe there are a few areas
off the Pacific coast with similiar restrictions allready, the Rhievilados (sp), so. of
the Cape some 200 mi., have some like designation, boats can
fish within a few ml. of those Isles. Guadalupe Isle out some
125 mi. from Ensenada is fished with permit. The sportfishing
at the Cape seems a good portion of Cabos $$$, not sure
they would risk the Sportfishing Tourism, not sure of what
% that represents. Mexico seems
to embrace the idea of marine protection, Grey Whale Lagoons,
upper Cortez Vaquita Reserve, I have to applaud them, but I can't
see a ban on all sportfishing though


rdrrm8e - 12-6-2016 at 03:44 PM

The Nature Conservancy has their hands in this. Their's is a policy of scorched earth as far as any fishing goes

Only time will tell I suppose.

Remember the San Diego Long Range fleet decided to play chicken along the coast this Summer. It got National attention!

rdrrm8e - 12-6-2016 at 03:54 PM

The Nature Conservancy has their hands in this. Their's is a policy of scorched earth as far as any fishing goes

Only time will tell I suppose.

Remember the San Diego Long Range fleet decided to play chicken with a bunch of pangueros along the coast this Summer. It got National attention!

[Edited on 12-6-2016 by rdrrm8e]

sancho - 12-6-2016 at 03:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rdrrm8e  

Remember the San Diego Long Range fleet decided to play chicken along the coast this Summer. It got National attention!










What happened with that, around SQ wasn't it? I would hope
the San Diego boats would give the locals first right of refusal,
kinda of their territory

rdrrm8e - 12-6-2016 at 03:59 PM

The Governor got involved. It was big news




http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/update-on-the-san-q...

mtgoat666 - 12-6-2016 at 07:57 PM

Why the griping?
Any increase in environmental protection is good

rdrrm8e - 12-6-2016 at 10:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Why the griping?
Any increase in environmental protection is good



I don't think it can be explained to you.

sancho - 12-12-2016 at 02:20 PM

A weekend fishing radio show out of San Diego, last Sat., broadcast from the Cape. They had some Mex Govt. reps
from Pesca, etc. The subject of the new MPA along the Baja
was discussed. All Isles are included, from the Cape to the
Coronados, sportfishing will be allowed, another of those
$20 dlls fee per yr, will allow one to fish the Isles, go into
effect in a yr?





wilderone - 12-16-2016 at 08:57 AM

"I don't think it can be explained to you"
Is there something wrong with preventing abuses to natural resources, and the environment? Along the Baja Pacific Ocean side, apparently will only prohibit destructive trawling. Of course you know how detrimental bottom trawling is to the ecosystem. Apparently oil exploration and drilling will be prohibited - same as we Californians have been fighting for for years. Of course you know how detrimental oil in our oceans and on our beaches is to all living marine life and a viable ecosystem. If you've ever been to the Quintana Roo coast and seen the tons of rubbish along the beaches, the hotels cluttering up wildlife corridors and dumping sewage into the bays, polluting coral reefs which are now decimated, it is clear that further governmental protections are needed. The world does not exist for you and your 90+- years on earth to exploit as you please, rather, needs our good stewardship now to attempt to redress the aggregious damage that has occurred, as, and every person on the planet needs what the oceans have to offer - now and 100, 200, 300 years from now. I say the protections are not enough, but a beginning. I contribute to the Nature Conservancy - and up my contribution this year.

sancho - 12-16-2016 at 09:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  

Is there something wrong with preventing abuses to natural resources, and the environment?










I think there is some misunderstanding here, some
confusion in wording. I can't imagine
there is anyone on BN that is not in favor of what you
mention, enjoyment of nature is what we go SOB for.
But most/all of us drive and consume oil, and there are
a very few here that would not consume shrimp destructively dredged up from the bottom, although in the Cortez not
the Pacific



fishbuck - 12-16-2016 at 01:59 PM

I am giving up eating shrimp. And there is plenty of oil production in the world right now. Too much by some measures.

fishbuck - 12-16-2016 at 04:31 PM

Does anyone know how shrimp are fished for inthe Pacific. When I visited Mag Bay there was a large panga fleet. But I don't know their method.
Traps? Nets? Miny trawl rigs?