Toyota tacoma is a dud in 2017

Quote: Originally posted by DirkEXC

Clearly he is just looking to start some trouble. Give it a rest will ya Did you notice how we did not hear from him after he stepped in it when he bad mouthed one of the best Nomads to ever share here.

Quote: Originally posted by chippy

The best thing about the Colorado is the mini dmax motor. Offroad it is not in the same league as the Tacoma.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

2017 chevy colorado zr2 will kill the tacoma offroad market share!

The Baja Nomad blow hard strikes again knows nothing.

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks

I've driven Tacomas for years on harsh roads and know what they will take; they are reliable. The deal-killer for the Colorado for me is that it's a Chevy - will not consider purchasing.

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666   2017 chevy colorado zr2 will kill the tacoma offroad market share! The Baja Nomad blow hard strikes again knows nothing.

Bajatrailslug,
The chevy off-road Tacoma-killing machine comes in diesel. Your precious Tacoma does not!

Have you ever been to Tacoma? The goat has history there. The goat tells you Tacoma ain't an exciting thing to name a car after. Back in the days it smelled like a pulp mill because that was the biggest smokestack in town (well, maybe asarco smelter had a taller stack?)
When you say "Tacoma" First thing that comes to mind is the the smell of the pulp mill, and the sound of heavy metal head banging music in the Tacoma dome.
But the pulp mill closed down a while ago. And the jobs went to china, eh?
I hear trump will stamp his feet, twit some threats, wink at Putin and grab a pussy, and the bobs your uncle, the jobs will come back to Tacoma, or so they tell me.

Lux sit!

[Edited on 12-16-2016 by mtgoat666]

[Edited on 12-16-2016 by mtgoat666]

Keep posting MT baja nomad blow hard we enjoy you lack of knowledge. Also talking about everything but trucks.Your not even smart enough to drive a truck.Let alone comment on one.

Please keep in mind both the Tacoma (Washington) and the Colorado are both named from legalized Marijuana states.

More reason to be above this debate and drive a Jeep.

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider

Keep posting MT baja nomad blow hard we enjoy you lack of knowledge. Also talking about everything but trucks.Your not even smart enough to drive a truck.Let alone comment on one.

I say we switch gears and talk about the new twin turbo eco-boost Raptor!!!
who's gonna have one under the tree this year?

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

I say we switch gears and talk about the new twin turbo eco-boost Raptor!!! who's gonna have one under the tree this year?

Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/11/interview-2017-chevrolet...

Don't have one ... but, would never say Toyota does make a good tuck ... enjoy the back and forth on cars/trucks ... they're after all a lot of fun ...... plus some seem never get out of them .... Check TW ..

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

When I heard that Chevy was going to offer a turbo diesel option for the Colorado, I checked into it. What I want is a midsize truck, extended 2 door cab with at least a six foot bed. I would want it basic, ranch tough or military grade with few bells and whistles. Unfortunately, the diesel will only be offered in the asphalt cowboy, full dress version! Short sighted if you ask me.

Quote: Originally posted by o3dave

Please keep in mind both the Tacoma (Washington) and the Colorado are both named from legalized Marijuana states. More reason to be above this debate and drive a Jeep.

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

Without even getting into best this, best that..The Tacoma has always been a cheap boring vehicle

Quote: Originally posted by pappy

I have a 2001 Chevy that I ordered from factory has over 200k no usage of oil no leaks in other words no reason to get a new one every few years...🙂

I think toyota makes GREAT cars, head gaskets, not so much! I've been walking for a month, this well maintained 4runner only made till the 188K mark......you just never know

Quote: Originally posted by pappy

I have a 2001 Chevy that I ordered from factory has over 200k no usage of oil no leaks in other words no reason to get a new one every few years...🙂

I replaced the head gaskets and a cracked head 4 years ago on a 1998 Exploder (it had overheated). Cleaned lots of carbon off the pistons. Still going strong.

I saw that they offered a "heavy duty" gasket set for it, which was only $20 more, and went with that. Not sure if it made a difference but they seemed to be better quality, maybe more dense than the other ones. I had wanted to mention it before when I saw your post about doing the head gaskets on your vehicle, willardguy.

That is one job I doubt I will ever do again with the engine in the car! My back is still killing me ...

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

I think toyota makes GREAT cars, head gaskets, not so much! I've been walking for a month, this well maintained 4runner only made till the 188K mark......you just never know

Quote: Originally posted by Doug/Vamonos

Buy American. All cars have improved dramatically and I don't believe it is accurate to make blanket statements that US cars and trucks are crap. Yes, I know many car parts are sourced outside the US. But still...buy American. Waving the flag and driving the KIA just does not look right. And last I saw it is not US vessels that are killing the Cortez fisheries. So you can send a message also.

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

I have a 2004 Tacoma with 438,000 miles and does not use oil between 5,000 mile changes and never had any problems of any kind. Great off-road too. It pulls chevys, Dodge, Ford, and Land rovers out of any difficulty.

toyota

Quote: Originally posted by J.P.

I have to smile when I think about what our Grand Daughter says when she talks about cars she doesn't like. She says I just wouldn't Look Good driving that Car. I have always felt that way about Toyota for no particular reason other than I just don't think I would look good Driving one.

Quote: Originally posted by David K

I bought my Toyota brand product from an American dealership, in America. The truck was delivered via an American trucking company (at least from the Baja border, since my truck was made in Baja. American service my truck and on the RARE occasion something breaks, an American will fix it. It runs on American gas (except in Baja) and is lubricated with American made synthetic oils. Once an American brand makes a mid-size truck with the quality and dependability of a Tacoma, I would buy it... but the last two American brand vehicles I bought (Jeep and Plymouth) were mechanical and financial nightmares. Sure, someday my Tacoma might break down... but, so far, my three Tacomas have never disappointed me... and it was (today's) Baja Nomad members (Amigos de Baja in 2000) that convinced me to get the Tacoma TRD Truck... especially, Neal Johns! Happy Festivus!

Quote: Originally posted by David K

My father told me that the American thing to do is buy the best product at the best price.

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Is it more 'honest' to buy a Ford (or ?) that was made in Mexico (or Canada) then bragging how wonderful you are that you bought an American car? I think the Tacoma or Tundra is as much American product as Ford or Chevy if you break it down to what was made where and the nationality of the people who receive an income because of that purchase.... and not repair mechanics only! My father told me that the American thing to do is buy the best product at the best price. In a market-based economy, competition forces other makers to improve their product or lower their price. The consumer determines what products survive. It's a consumer win-win for quality and price.

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

Nope. No toyotas in this list. Glad I have a RAM (they do not make toy trucks) with 21 MPH and 385 HP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_manufacture...

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1EYyUF6zt0 Relevant part starts at 1:30 ...

Funny movie, but probably realistic for many of those born before the 1950s. My dad's last car was a '73 Ford LTD station wagon with the 460 Lincoln engine. No problem cruising at 90 mph! That was a great car and it even drove to Loerto when it was new, before Hwy. One was finished (~200 unpaved and 60 ungraded dirt miles).



I think it was soon after 1973 that American brands went to hell and that is the reason for the rise of foreign brand popularity. We didn't prefer to buy Japanese, but U.S. automakers pushing low quality junk on us gave us no choice.

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Funny movie, but probably realistic for many of those born before the 1950s. My dad's last car was a '73 Ford LTD station wagon with the 460 Lincoln engine. No problem cruising at 90 mph! That was a great car and it even drove to Loerto when it was new, before Hwy. One was finished (~200 unpaved and 60 ungraded dirt miles). I think it was soon after 1973 that American brands went to hell and that is the reason for the rise of foreign brand popularity. We didn't prefer to buy Japanese, but U.S. automakers pushing low quality junk on us gave us no choice.

Right, but not just about building small cars... We bought a new Jeep Cherokee Chief in 1975, 401 V-8, 12 mpg, and everything failed on that rig, even the GM Turbo 400 transmission, just out of the 12,000 miles warranty! Quality (specially for a Jeep vehicle) was zero on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being perfect.


May, 1975 at my home near Escondido.

After two years, I sold the Jeep and bought a new Subaru 4WD wagon (for what I sold the Jeep for)... Quality was 10! I remember when I took it in for its first servicing and the service manager asked me if there were any problems to fix... I was shocked and then I had to think happily and reply "NO"!

My Jeep was in the shop countless times, and the service manager acted like he hated life and especially Jeep failures. A brand new SUV should not have: the window crank break, the water pump fail, the rear window motor come off its attachment in the tailgate, the low range lever disconnect from the transfer case, the transmission fail, etc... When it wasn't broken, it was a joy to four wheel with and would go everywhere I pointed it.

The little Subaru with 13" tires was even more amazing considering it had a 1.6 liter engine and no low range, just went from FWD (front wheel drive) to 4WD with a pull on the stick... and got 25 mpg. That's when I really amped up my trips to Baja 1977 on.



March, 1978, on Shell Island.




[Edited on 12-22-2016 by David K]

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak

I've always liked those Cherokee Chief's, but man a TH400 trans should last a lot longer! I guess the 401 v8 had good power. Those Baja roads will test anything. Funny, I was about to be born while you had your Subaru parked on Shell Island. Cool little rally style car there.

I loved that Jeep, but it didn't love me back!

In with the Subaru Four Wheel Drive Wagon:




Here is my 1977.5 Subaru Wagon pre-running the 1979 Baja 1000, between Calamajué Canyon and El Crucero (I actually began at San Matias Pass and was on the race course from there south to El Crucero). That was the section I was to drive during the race. We broke down before getting to my part!

It had the "Safari Package" which was white off road wheels, white grille guard, Subaru 4WD stripes. I added the pair of KC Daylighters and a CB Radio.

Quote: Originally posted by stiladam

I worked at Jeep in the mid 80's when I was a kid. The V6 Cherokee's were just horrible. Brand new vehicles would leak oil continuously and there wasn't a fix for it. I spent many days going to customers houses to clean driveways. One of these customers finally had enough. He pulled into the dealership driveway, pulled out a gas can, poured it all over the Cherokee and lit it on fire and watched it burn. Crazy site to see! [Edited on 12-22-2016 by stiladam]

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Jeep first used the GM baby V-6 in the small Cherokees before using their own (AMC) big inline 6. The GM tranny was junk, not the AMC small block 401 (yes, it was the biggest small block I think there ever was... same block as the 304 and 360 V-8).

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

A race transmission is not a stock unit used in a competitive race car/truck. It is torn down and rebuilt with some better parts added. For some of the top racers the tranny is rebuilt after so many races especially before the Baja 1000. Only a mom and pop low budget racer would use a tranny out of the box from the manufacture. Some make it some don't.

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

I didn't notice any japanese transmissions on that list.....but if Kman has hundreds of thousands of grueling shell island miles with no issues....how can you argue?

Because he is on his third Toyota and I believe second Subaru to claim those miles.

TMW has more on one truck......even if it is a Toyota.

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

AND His "off road trips" by his own admission are few and far between. Most of his miles are Kalifornia hiway miles.. Do the math.

The Korean tires make it work harder.

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

Point is TMW, Many would disagree with our experts's statement that "THe GM tranny was junk, ". including the magazine that I posted. "Only a mom and pop ...." YES I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK... SO. David. The GM turbo 400 didn't not come in a Plymouth. [Edited on 12-23-2016 by rts551]

Nothing is more boring than men spouting off their supposed car knowledge!

Speaking of trannys, elinvestg8r is obsessed with them!

Quote: Originally posted by msteve1014

Quote: Originally posted by TMW   A race transmission is not a stock unit used in a competitive race car/truck. It is torn down and rebuilt with some better parts added. For some of the top racers the tranny is rebuilt after so many races especially before the Baja 1000. Only a mom and pop low budget racer would use a tranny out of the box from the manufacture. Some make it some don't. Are you trying to tell us that stock TH400 trans. are junk as DK says??

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

No, I am saying that any transmission used in competitive racing is rebuilt to make it more reliable just like the engine. The auto tranny in my new 1991 chevy 4x4 went out at 26,000 miles. It was replace with a 700R4 that lasted over 200,000 miles. In the 90s it was common for GM truck transmissions to fail early. Back then I had many coworkers who lost their GM truck tranny before 30,000 miles in both CA and TX. My 2004 GMC Z71 tranny is going strong at 165,000 miles.

BajaBreak ... good advice on the making a transmission last a little longer ... same for the engine