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Top 10 Health Benefits of Dirt Biking

StuckSucks - 3-28-2017 at 01:57 PM

Top 10 Health Benefits of Dirt Biking

The bullet points:

- Increased heart rate
- Increased strength
- Balance
- Endurance
- Get outdoors
- Burn calories
- Brain stimulation
- Provides varied versions of gym exercises
- Staying healthy
- Good posture

Prediction: Someone will chime in, suggesting a switch to mountain biking.
Keyword to watch for: knuckle dragger

BigBearRider - 3-28-2017 at 02:46 PM

- Less money to spend on other vices that are bad for you
-Tires the body so you won't engage in other foolishness detrimental to your health
-Escape from potential physical abuse from spouse?

[Edited on 3-28-2017 by BigBearRider]

willardguy - 3-28-2017 at 03:04 PM

dirt bike riders get all the hot chicks.....im sure you've all seen Axell Hodges in the SLAYGROUND commercial :o

mtgoat666 - 3-28-2017 at 03:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
dirt bike riders get all the hot chicks


I think you meant to write "sl-utty" chicks, eh? :P

Looking at the offroading ads and "marketing" gals at the offroad races, it does seem that knuckle draggers like their women sl-utty :lol::lol:

I prefer the granola chicks in mtn biking :P:P

[Edited on 3-28-2017 by mtgoat666]

blackwolfmt - 3-28-2017 at 03:59 PM

So Goat what is your description of knuckle dragger, and while you 'try to figure that out I think i'll go jump on my WR and go find some slu ts

fishbuck - 3-30-2017 at 02:11 AM

I always say my motocross bike (CRF450) is the best exercise machine ever made.
As for chicks... any competitive dirt bike racer has very little time to spend of them... so yes we like them as desribed above.

ehall - 3-30-2017 at 03:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
I always say my motocross bike (CRF450) is the best exercise machine ever made.
As for chicks... any competitive dirt bike racer has very little time to spend of them... so yes we like them as desribed above.



I'm far from being competitive but I do like friendly women!

Gulliver - 3-31-2017 at 02:58 PM

Just rode 250 miles yesterday, most of it on fairly chewed up back roads in the hills between Mulege and San Javier.

I feel like cow pucky from one end of my body to the other!!!!

Maybe better tomorrow. IBUPROFEN!

KurtG - 3-31-2017 at 04:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
Just rode 250 miles yesterday, most of it on fairly chewed up back roads in the hills between Mulege and San Javier.

I feel like cow pucky from one end of my body to the other!!!!

Maybe better tomorrow. IBUPROFEN!


I drove from San Javier/Comondu/San Isidro/Hwy 1 on 3/21. Glad it was you riding it and not me! Going north from the SJ road about 10 miles in there is the sweeping ascent onto the mesa. Work was being done and a dozer was spreading fresh dirt so it was very loose surface. Used low range and climbed the hill, about half way up was a 2wd Toyota pickup carrying a large compressor. He could go no further but could back up a bit to let me go by. Right after that I met the dozer coming down and there was just room for us to pass. At about 2/3's up the grade I saw a bright spot of Caterpillar yellow and as I got closer realized it was a large front end loader tipped over on it's side. Again just enough room for me to get by without running off the cliff but it was kinda close. Went past, stopped and walked back down to talk to the two guys there. The younger, in his 20's, said he was the driver. He was working aimed uphill when his brakes failed. This was a very bad situation since the grade is steep and going over the side at that point no doubt would have been fatal. He said he jammed it into the lowest gear, killed the engine and steered into the cliff side. The rig went over on it's side and slid to a stop. His only injury was some skin scraped off his hip. He still had a pretty good adrenaline rush going on which was understandable.

I continued on to Comondu, some rough spots with loose rock but not too bad. After La Purisima and San Isidro I headed east toward Hwy 1 keeping in mind David's recent report on that road. I have traveled that route quite a number of times over the years but this was the worst. There was nowhere that I didn't think I could traverse but it was very rough and very slow going, often crawling along in low range especially on the steep portions. Took me about 2 1/2 hours to go 30 miles. I feel bad for the ranchers out there, it must be very difficult for them.

I was driving our old 2000 Explorer and managed to not break anything.

bajabuddha - 3-31-2017 at 04:44 PM

Old BBC's (b-tchin' biker chicks) are NOT knuckle-draggers..... but sumpin' else is...... :cool:

David K - 3-31-2017 at 05:48 PM

Hey Kurt,
So they were dozing the grade up from Palo Chino (the San Javier side of the mesa)? Not yet anything done on the other side, dropping down to El Horno? That was worse (in February)... low range for safety and braking.

Here's a look at the grade up from Palo Chino to Mesa las Animas:





Signs on both ends of the mesa:



[Edited on 4-1-2017 by David K]

Gulliver - 3-31-2017 at 06:02 PM

See my post under trip reports.

KurtG - 3-31-2017 at 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hey Kurt,
So they were dozing the grade up from Palo Chino (the San Javier side of the mesa)? Not yet anything done on the other side, dropping down to El Horno? That was worse (in February)... low range for safety and braking.


Correct, nothing done on top of the mesa or the northbound downhill toward El Horno which was quite rough with lots of loose rocks. I also went down that in low range.

David K - 3-31-2017 at 06:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
See my post under trip reports.


THANKS, you posted that fast!!!

rts551 - 3-31-2017 at 07:19 PM

The Norra race will be using that area in about 3 weeks.

bajatrailrider - 3-31-2017 at 07:19 PM

Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.

willardguy - 3-31-2017 at 07:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)

Gulliver - 3-31-2017 at 09:07 PM

Ouch! Someone out there riding that's older than me. I'll be 74 in May. And I feel every day of it this evening.

bajatrailrider - 4-1-2017 at 05:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:

willardguy - 4-1-2017 at 05:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:


im speaking only as an investor larry....goat has accepted the challenge!:yes:

mtgoat666 - 4-1-2017 at 07:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:


I told you I need see proof of money in escrow - $10K USD in 100s.
Where/what am I supposed to ride? Is there a time limit? Who is supplying the bike? (I ain't wasting my money on a bike)


joerover - 4-1-2017 at 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  


Prediction: Someone will chime in, suggesting a switch to mountain biking.



as you requested

switch to mountain biking.

and the girls will leave you alone, until after you go to the lavamatica

joerover - 4-1-2017 at 08:56 PM

2 questions about dirt bikes,
What bike is the most reliable?
What bike gets the best milage?

Gulliver - 4-1-2017 at 09:31 PM

The bikes are so reliable these days that it's not a very large part of the equation. My old 1994 Suzuki 350 has never been worked on beyond replacing tires and such expendables. It's been years since I've even checked the valves. 28K of Baja miles. A regular Energizer Bunny.

As to mileage, before the bike runs out of gas, you run out of gas. Buy an aftermarket oversized tank.

Bike choices depend more on where you are likely to ride. All the way from a Gold Wing to cruise Rt. 1 to an observed trials bike for a few spots around here that scare me.

The swiss army knife is a Kawasaki DLR650. You can ride one down the freeway to get here and you can take one up most of the route I just did two days ago. But if you went with me you would be thinking of a smaller, lighter machine of next time. But if you decided to haul a lot of camping gear and had to do a lot of pavement miles to get here, even the KLR might seem small.

There are more dealers and more second hand bikes if you stick with the Japanese machinery. For years most of the bikes down here were Hondas and for good reasons. And they are still the standard of all around performance. The KTM's and even a few other european brands are showing up in increasing numbers. There is a price penalty and they are more complicated.

You want reliability and the best milage? A Japanese guy rode around the world some years ago on a shaft drive 50cc bike that was bought used from the Japanese post office. Total reliability and minimal fuel consumption. But then there were obvious drawbacks. How much rice could he carry?

For years anyone who headed around the world ride a BMW. Now it is starting to be a KLR-650.

To be honest with you, if you are starting out, buy a used 400 Honda or something close to it and plan on selling it after a year or two. You will learn so much about your desires and abilities that you will buy the right bike for you the second time around.

I'm getting on in years, sad to admit, and there will come a day when I find that lifting this 350 off my leg is too much. I will look for something lighter like my spouse's Yamaha XT-225. It weighs nothing and the gas goes stale in it. It doesn't have the most sophisticated suspension but it will be running when they throw it in my grave with my sorry carcass.

[Edited on 4-2-2017 by Gulliver]

bajatrailrider - 4-1-2017 at 09:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:


I told you I need see proof of money in escrow - $10K USD in 100s.
Where/what am I supposed to ride? Is there a time limit? Who is supplying the bike? (I ain't wasting my money on a bike)

I supply Wr450 5 baja nomad witness.You wont need a time limit.Because you wont be able to finish.Then you may think about us out of shape dirt bikers.:) After that you will wake up to the fact.It takes skill strength guts endurance.This is in Mexico as the forum Baja off road.

willardguy - 4-2-2017 at 06:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:


I told you I need see proof of money in escrow - $10K USD in 100s.
Where/what am I supposed to ride? Is there a time limit? Who is supplying the bike? (I ain't wasting my money on a bike)

I supply Wr450 5 baja nomad witness.You wont need a time limit.Because you wont be able to finish.Then you may think about us out of shape dirt bikers.:) After that you will wake up to the fact.It takes skill strength guts endurance.This is in Mexico as the forum Baja off road.


any idea what you're gonna do with that extra $10K larry? :yes:


KaceyJ - 4-2-2017 at 06:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
Ouch! Someone out there riding that's older than me. I'll be 74 in May. And I feel every day of it this evening.


Got to be proud of that!

I sold my Banshee and bought a Rancher because every time I was on it I was doing 100+

Now I realize that putting around on a quad is useless as far as exercise goes so I bought a micro dualsport!

Balance and reaction adds years I'm convinced

willardguy - 4-2-2017 at 07:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by KaceyJ  
Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
Ouch! Someone out there riding that's older than me. I'll be 74 in May. And I feel every day of it this evening.


Got to be proud of that!

I sold my Banshee and bought a Rancher because every time I was on it I was doing 100+

Now I realize that putting around on a quad is useless as far as exercise goes so I bought a micro dualsport!

Balance and reaction adds years I'm convinced


ABSOLUTELY! and a tip of the hat that says you don't have to opt for the cage! :yes:

Gulliver - 4-2-2017 at 07:46 PM

I've never tried a quad or any of the vehicles that sort of grew from them. I guess it's a quad if you sit one behind the other and something else if you sit side by side.

I am impressed at how fast the Razer(sp?) things were going at our last race. But then someone told me how much the driver had into it. Ouch.

I would have a hard time moving over rough ground sitting down. The ability to use my legs to take up some of the vertical movement really helps me cover ground. Until I get worn out later in the day and am too stinking tired to stand up!

Also, being only a few inches wide at ground level helps shoot through all sorts of things. An experienced rider is looking quite a ways ahead to get the right track. And of course we can slip through narrow spots. I was really impressed by those pictures of the Matomi Wash. I could hardly believe you squeezed trucks through there. And the ability to turn a bike around in a really small space is great.

We have day rides out of Mulege that include everything from pickups to bikes and just about the only drawback is that the four wheeled drivers don't get to take many breaks because of the speed differences. As soon as they catch up then off we go!

We bikers don't make a peep as they are carrying the food and camp gear for us!!!

David K - 4-3-2017 at 08:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
I've never tried a quad or any of the vehicles that sort of grew from them. I guess it's a quad if you sit one behind the other and something else if you sit side by side.

I am impressed at how fast the Razer(sp?) things were going at our last race. But then someone told me how much the driver had into it. Ouch.

I would have a hard time moving over rough ground sitting down. The ability to use my legs to take up some of the vertical movement really helps me cover ground. Until I get worn out later in the day and am too stinking tired to stand up!

Also, being only a few inches wide at ground level helps shoot through all sorts of things. An experienced rider is looking quite a ways ahead to get the right track. And of course we can slip through narrow spots. I was really impressed by those pictures of the Matomi Wash. I could hardly believe you squeezed trucks through there. And the ability to turn a bike around in a really small space is great.

We have day rides out of Mulege that include everything from pickups to bikes and just about the only drawback is that the four wheeled drivers don't get to take many breaks because of the speed differences. As soon as they catch up then off we go!

We bikers don't make a peep as they are carrying the food and camp gear for us!!!


Do you go with WillyAirstream on his runs? Did I see you at the La Purísima restaurant where his group was eating on their Mulegé to San Miguel Comondú run?

Gulliver - 4-3-2017 at 08:42 AM

Normally, yes. I missed that one. They had grand plans of going through to San Javier but with a big group it takes forever to get going.

Kind like elephants mating. Lots of screaming in high places and then nothing happens for two years.

Don't get me wrong. I like those runs but I have few illusions about covering a lot of ground.

David K - 4-3-2017 at 08:49 AM

They were indeed running late. The sun was almost setting when they left La Purísima. They were relieved when I told them the road to Comondú was mostly very fast.

I had a very good fish dinner there and stayed at the little motel, next door.




bajatrailrider - 4-8-2017 at 07:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to agree with Stucksucks Dirt biking keeps you in Tip top shape. I ride with a 75 year old That David knows Mike that drove the Red Toyota on pole line road few years ago. Tuff as nails riding over 60 years. Too bad the Wimp Mt666 is too scared and weak to try it.


is the $10K challenge still on, and can anyone get into that? ;)
The 10 grand challenge is only for the Idiot MT666 that hides under his computer. If this wimp had balls he would show up to collect.We all know the Baja Nomad blow hard Truest is just a Arm chair talker.:bounce:


I told you I need see proof of money in escrow - $10K USD in 100s.
Where/what am I supposed to ride? Is there a time limit? Who is supplying the bike? (I ain't wasting my money on a bike)

I supply Wr450 5 baja nomad witness.You wont need a time limit.Because you wont be able to finish.Then you may think about us out of shape dirt bikers.:) After that you will wake up to the fact.It takes skill strength guts endurance.This is in Mexico as the forum Baja off road.


any idea what you're gonna do with that extra $10K larry? :yes:

The 10 grand is just extra money,it is just to prove this wimp Mt666 talks smack about off road people. As far as other question what is most reliable real dirt bikes for Baja any 96-04 Xr250/400 air cooled. Water cooled hands down 04/ 11 then 2016/17 Wr250/450. Then of course you have your dual sport bikes many good ones out there. They are great for some dirt roads,easy trails. Very hard to ride in deep sand or hard single track. As for ATVs I have one KFX 700 V twin dual carb ATV. Dont really like them beats you up real good.

blackwolfmt - 4-8-2017 at 02:05 PM

[rquote=dirt bikes for Baja any 96-04 Xr250/400 air cooled. Water cooled hands down 04/ 11 then 2016/17 Wr250/450. Then of course you have your dual sport bikes many good ones out there. They are great for some dirt roads,easy trails. Very hard to ride in deep sand or hard single track. As for ATVs I have one KFX 700 V twin dual carb ATV. Dont really like them beats you up real good. [/rquote]


I will Vouch for the 2016 WR 450 have almost 1600 mi on her and she ROCKS !!!!!:bounce:

rts551 - 4-8-2017 at 02:46 PM

Yes, Kurt Caselli showed everyone that KTM is a dirt bike to be reckoned with.

rts551 - 4-8-2017 at 02:50 PM

They brought their ATV's into the US for a couple of years too.


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blackwolfmt - 4-8-2017 at 03:16 PM

RIP KC a real badazz

And if Eli wins tonight he either ties or takes the point lead Go Eli

bajatrailrider - 4-8-2017 at 06:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Yes, Kurt Caselli showed everyone that KTM is a dirt bike to be reckoned with.
Its not the bike Kurt could win on any brand bike. He was that good.:)

del mar - 4-8-2017 at 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Yes, Kurt Caselli showed everyone that KTM is a dirt bike to be reckoned with.


well there was those 16 straight dakar wins.......

TMW - 4-9-2017 at 10:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  

[/rquote] The 10 grand is just extra money,it is just to prove this wimp Mt666 talks smack about off road people. As far as other question what is most reliable real dirt bikes for Baja any 96-04 Xr250/400 air cooled. Water cooled hands down 04/ 11 then 2016/17 Wr250/450. Then of course you have your dual sport bikes many good ones out there. They are great for some dirt roads,easy trails. Very hard to ride in deep sand or hard single track. As for ATVs I have one KFX 700 V twin dual carb ATV. Dont really like them beats you up real good.


I've had several bikes over the years and a couple stand out. My 1987 YZ250. Easy to start and the suspension was great over whoops. My 1990 KX500. Also easy to start, suspension was good, really smooth. A blast in the sand. My last bike was a 2004 XR250. Very easy to start, usually first or second kick. I was really surprised at the suspension, especially for a 4 stroke. Being older I really enjoyed riding it. I gave it to my son in 2011 and his son now rides it. I've never ridden any of the new bikes but I've been around them for racing. They do seem to have a great suspension setup. The only drawback I think is the complexity of the engines, more maintenance required.

I've had a Honda 1984 CT110, really fun wish I still had it. A 1984 Honda XR500 a good bike with twin carbs. 1987 Honda CR500, hard to start but fast. Head shake a problem at speed. 1992 Honda XR600, really hard to start at times and not as fast as the XR500.

blackwolfmt - 4-9-2017 at 02:28 PM

Yeah definitely a more techno engine compared to my old 04 wr 450 that had almost 10K on it when she seized up on me. What I really like is the new suspension and center of gravity makes her handle so sweet

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willardguy - 4-9-2017 at 05:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt  
Yeah definitely a more techno engine compared to my old 04 wr 450 that had almost 10K on it when she seized up on me. What I really like is the new suspension and center of gravity makes her handle so sweet



probably fly without that extra 10 pounds of decals!

blackwolfmt - 4-9-2017 at 06:30 PM

ha, You Funny Willardguy

rts551 - 4-9-2017 at 09:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt  
Yeah definitely a more techno engine compared to my old 04 wr 450 that had almost 10K on it when she seized up on me. What I really like is the new suspension and center of gravity makes her handle so sweet



probably fly without that extra 10 pounds of decals!


I was told more steekers makes them go faster.

Gulliver - 4-10-2017 at 05:07 AM

A week or so I was wandering around out in the sticks and the kids in the villages wanted three things. Wheelies, stickers and to honk my bicycle horn (don't ask).

ehall - 4-10-2017 at 07:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
A week or so I was wandering around out in the sticks and the kids in the villages wanted three things. Wheelies, stickers and to honk my bicycle horn (don't ask).



I have found if you can't do a wheelie, have neither a horn nor steekers they will gladly take $1 bills. lol. A friend showed me that trick recently. Not sure how their parents felt about it. I thought it was a great idea.

bajatrailrider - 4-10-2017 at 07:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt  
Yeah definitely a more techno engine compared to my old 04 wr 450 that had almost 10K on it when she seized up on me. What I really like is the new suspension and center of gravity makes her handle so sweet

Nice bike I always thought you put stickers over the holes you made crashing. My last 07Wr450 went 48,000 dirt miles never pulled off the head.One valve adjustment sold it 2/17/14. Never had a bike run like that my 11wr450 also good bike. Only ride it on long easy rides.Moved to smaller bike for hard single track as all 450s gas hogs.Needing big tank for the 30-37mpg. Brother has 16 Wr450 with every mod you could do to it.It is so fast up the sand hill climbs you need back off the throttle.:)

Gulliver - 4-10-2017 at 09:04 AM

You guys are funny. Where I ride down here in Southern Baja the more power you have, the more trouble you are in!

Light weight and good suspension are always good though. If I didn't have to give up a bunch of other good things about my old DR-350, I'd up grade. This year is the year I re-valve and rebuild my rear shock. Long overdue.

TMW - 4-10-2017 at 09:06 AM

FYI to the Honda CRF450 riders. Honda use to and maybe still does use Titanium valves. They get bent from the heat or whatever, causing the engine not to start, either electric or kick, maybe with a tow. Engine builders say switch to the steel valves used in the 450 quad ATVs, they don't bend. Tunaeater had that problem pre-running the last 1000 to La Paz.

willardguy - 4-10-2017 at 10:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
FYI to the Honda CRF450 riders. Honda use to and maybe still does use Titanium valves. They get bent from the heat or whatever, causing the engine not to start, either electric or kick, maybe with a tow. Engine builders say switch to the steel valves used in the 450 quad ATVs, they don't bend. Tunaeater had that problem pre-running the last 1000 to La Paz.


bajatrailrider found the key....switch brands ;)

bajatrailrider - 4-10-2017 at 12:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
FYI to the Honda CRF450 riders. Honda use to and maybe still does use Titanium valves. They get bent from the heat or whatever, causing the engine not to start, either electric or kick, maybe with a tow. Engine builders say switch to the steel valves used in the 450 quad ATVs, they don't bend. Tunaeater had that problem pre-running the last 1000 to La Paz.


bajatrailrider found the key....switch brands ;)
I have no brand loyalty. Because of Honda CRF250-450 not reliable made me switch to WR250-450. Please Do not tell me but they used to win the Baja 1000 every year. That bike cost over 50,000$ you cant have one. So all the Mexican riders here based on that bought them. All have blown up 3/4 times a year .They are on Wrs now. :)

bajatrailrider - 4-10-2017 at 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Gulliver  
You guys are funny. Where I ride down here in Southern Baja the more power you have, the more trouble you are in!

Light weight and good suspension are always good though. If I didn't have to give up a bunch of other good things about my old DR-350, I'd up grade. This year is the year I re-valve and rebuild my rear shock. Long overdue.
Most riders in Baja ride dirt roads 450 great. I love hard tight single track so on my 450 just hold clutch in and idle 50hp bike no fun too much work..250 small low light bike short wheel base fun and faster then 450 on trail. Easy to ride Only problem you have to build the bike as they don't make one.:)

blackwolfmt - 4-10-2017 at 12:50 PM

Yep WR,s are such great trail bikes they luv to Lug up nasty, rocky winding single track all day long a little Hot clutchin goes a long way

bajatrailrider - 4-10-2017 at 03:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by blackwolfmt  
Yep WR,s are such great trail bikes they luv to Lug up nasty, rocky winding single track all day long a little Hot clutchin goes a long way
Also no overheating like Ktms,slip the hell out of the clutch. No problem:)

BajaBreak - 4-24-2017 at 10:40 AM

80's dual carb xr or xl600, my favorite engine. Ridiculous torque, power, and nearly 60mpg. Fired up my '01 xr650r yesterday for the first time in 5 years, I missed the sound of that beast. That is one I don't know if I can bring myself to sell. But I probably should, because it will likely lead me to an early grave or wheelchair.

Hard to beat that xr reliability, but I think I may go blue for an electric (&kick) start wr450r. Any opinions on the older 199?-200? ktm400's? A guy at the ktm dealer in Ramona was teling me the exc Racing G(?) was the one to get. Then again a little xr250 and a electric start dr350 sounds nice too.

Mtn biking is great too, but dirt biking will get you in a different shape, using muscles you hardly knew you had. Just depends how much time you have and how much you want to see.

willardguy - 4-24-2017 at 10:53 AM

as we speak...Hengeveld in the lead on his way to GN on the '05 big red pig!:bounce:

willardguy - 4-24-2017 at 11:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
80's dual carb xr or xl600, my favorite engine. Ridiculous torque, power, and nearly 60mpg. Fired up my '01 xr650r yesterday for the first time in 5 years, I missed the sound of that beast. That is one I don't know if I can bring myself to sell. But I probably should, because it will likely lead me to an early grave or wheelchair.

Hard to beat that xr reliability, but I think I may go blue for an electric (&kick) start wr450r. Any opinions on the older 199?-200? ktm400's? A guy at the ktm dealer in Ramona was teling me the exc Racing G(?) was the one to get. Then again a little xr250 and a electric start dr350 sounds nice too.

Mtn biking is great too, but dirt biking will get you in a different shape, using muscles you hardly knew you had. Just depends how much time you have and how much you want to see.


reach deep and be the first on your block to have an electric start FUEL INJECTED TWO STROKE KTM !!!:bounce:!!!:bounce:!!!:bounce:.....;)

JZ - 4-24-2017 at 11:28 AM

Just picked up two of these last week:



BajaBreak - 4-24-2017 at 02:06 PM

That's awesome willardguy! Those 650r's are built to last. I was supposed to be down there checking out the NORRA Rally with my brother but he had to cancel. Still my dream to get a few guys together to run vintage class on an old xr6.

Is that a 300? I want one, but they're too rich for my blood currently. My dad bought a new ktm 350exc a year and a half ago, shortly after his 66th birthday. He decided to take up dirt biking at 50, to stay in shape, you know! haha

I love technical, almost trials like riding. Maybe I should trade one of the big bikes for a small 2 smoke trail bike.


blackwolfmt - 4-24-2017 at 05:38 PM

Yeah BajaB I ride with smokers all the time and everybody pretty much stays the same pace, super nasty stuff they mite get to the top 1st but not usually, the wr is heavier and it does come in handy as far as stability and torque stayin ahead of my 250 challengers, if it only weighed 210 it would be a dream machine but at 271 dry its a great way to stay in shape mentally n physically, Es todo bueno

BajaBreak - 4-24-2017 at 07:44 PM

Yeah I think I'm gonna go back to blue. As mush as I love the old Hondas, my first 4 stroke dirt bike was the 98 YZF400, and I really liked it while I had it. I don't do motocross, so I think a wr450 is in my future. Like yours, but maybe more stickers!

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....

willardguy - 4-24-2017 at 08:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
Yeah I think I'm gonna go back to blue. As mush as I love the old Hondas, my first 4 stroke dirt bike was the 98 YZF400, and I really liked it while I had it. I don't do motocross, so I think a wr450 is in my future. Like yours, but maybe more stickers!

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....


you mean not scott summers shape... and no thats NOT photo shopped!

blackwolfmt - 4-24-2017 at 08:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
Yeah I think I'm gonna go back to blue. As mush as I love the old Hondas, my first 4 stroke dirt bike was the 98 YZF400, and I really liked it while I had it. I don't do motocross, so I think a wr450 is in my future. Like yours, but maybe more stickers!

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....



Never I will always be the steeker king, You will luv Wilma R she will treat U right


And Willard Johnny Campbell will always RULE

joerover - 4-24-2017 at 09:11 PM

what dirt bike is the most reliable.
not fastest or most fun,
Which one dont break to much?

BajaBreak - 4-24-2017 at 09:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
what dirt bike is the most reliable.
not fastest or most fun,
Which one dont break to much?


Honda XR anything, pretty much. Air cooled, add an oil cooler, good to go.

Yamaha xt225, 250, good small fire road bike. Depends what you want to do with it.

BajaBreak - 4-24-2017 at 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....


you mean not scott summers shape... and no thats NOT photo shopped!


Scott Summers is the man. It's partly why I want a bored out xr250 trail bike. He recall he rode the xr6 or a trick xr250 depending on the course. I remember that article, and reading about his training. I tried holding a few bikes like that, and quickly realized I was not Scott Summers!

bajatrailrider - 4-25-2017 at 08:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Just picked up two of these last week:

Have to
Have to admit I do love the KTM 300 2 smoke,much more reliable then KTM 4 stroke. Only problem in Baja only good for short day rides around house.One buddy went on 4 day ride with me on Gas Gas 300 2 smoke.He used 8 Gal fuel in one day 180 miles,If it was not for a Mexican rancher. In the middle of nowhere with extra gas in back of his truck.We would have had to leave the Gas Gas 300 there. Even after the Drama he still had to bum gas from our Xrs to get back.So he used over 8 gal fuel that day.:)

bajatrailrider - 4-25-2017 at 08:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover  
what dirt bike is the most reliable.
not fastest or most fun,
Which one dont break to much?
Not the most fastest 03/17 CRf230f but Ultra reliable. You do need mod rear shock,or change to fox shock. Many as new 03/04s 1600$ or less. I own a few 230s:).CR susp,bore and stroked to 272cc 6sp estart.Even built ultra reliable.50mpg even with built engine,top speed over 80mph.

David K - 4-25-2017 at 08:18 AM

Larry, see your u2u.

TMW - 4-25-2017 at 09:16 AM

I would agree that the air cooled Honda XR series is a very reliable bike. Not a good race bike for long high speed stuff in stock condition. They won't last long if you keep the throttle wide open for very long. The XR600 was hard to start most of the time, OK when warm. My 2004 XR250 was probably the best bike I've owned for cruising in the dirt and trail riding.

joerover - 4-25-2017 at 11:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
. Depends what you want to do with it.


Search for water in the desert

I am not in a hurry, also not a good mechanic.

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
I would agree that the air cooled Honda XR series is a very reliable bike. Not a good race bike for long high speed stuff in stock condition. They won't last long if you keep the throttle wide open for very long. The XR600 was hard to start most of the time, OK when warm. My 2004 XR250 was probably the best bike I've owned for cruising in the dirt and trail riding.


Honda you say, no one votes outside of Honda, hmmm.

What about mpg or size of gas tank.
Can you buy, do they make larger gas tanks. For people that do find water.

Subject: Top 10 Health Benefits of Dirt Biking
= more time to search for water

[Edited on 4-25-2017 by joerover]

BornFisher - 4-25-2017 at 11:39 AM

Mad Bum doesn`t think dirt biking is healthy. Nor do his teammates (Giants baseball).

TMW - 4-25-2017 at 01:29 PM

Remember the bigger the engine the more fuel it drinks. That said an XR 4 stroke will get between 35-50 miles per gallon depending on the terrain you are riding on. Soft sand low end, hard pack dirt high end. Most XRs can be fitted with a 4 gallon tank. They make bigger tanks depending on who you buy from. I always had a 4 gallon tank on my XR600 and XR250. The tanks usually have a reserve of 1/2 gallon.

Because I'm short my XR250 had shaved seat foam=1 inch lower. A suspension lowering link for another inch. That way I could stop with both feet on the ground.

I also always had my stator rewired for a higher output for better lighting and a Scotts stabilizer to reduce head shake when you hit those hidden rocks at speed.

[Edited on 4-25-2017 by TMW]

fishbuck - 4-25-2017 at 03:39 PM

You guys made me look at 2017 CRF450R and X. Now I want one. Probably the R. But the X has a bigger fuel tank 2.2 gal.

willardguy - 4-25-2017 at 04:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
You guys made me look at 2017 CRF450R and X. Now I want one. Probably the R. But the X has a bigger fuel tank 2.2 gal.


don't forget the "button" kit!;)

mtgoat666 - 4-25-2017 at 04:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....


you mean not scott summers shape... and no thats NOT photo shopped!


Scott Summers is the man. It's partly why I want a bored out xr250 trail bike. He recall he rode the xr6 or a trick xr250 depending on the course. I remember that article, and reading about his training. I tried holding a few bikes like that, and quickly realized I was not Scott Summers!


...health benefits of dirt biking?
I can lift my mountain bike with one finger of one hand. What's with you dirt bikers being so weak? :lol:

joerover - 4-25-2017 at 06:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

...health benefits of dirt biking?
I can lift my mountain bike with one finger of one hand. What's with you dirt bikers being so weak? :lol:


:D
A four thousand dollar bike race bike, I can lift with my index finger. A$15,000 bike like the one ironman rides to the win, I can lift with my pinky finger. Iron man uses a carbonfiber chain rated for 100 miles, and graphite cogs.

My mt bike cost more than a 150 cc moto. I can not lift it with 1 finger. I have heard storys about 23 pound and even 17 pound mt bikes. Not the best choice for Baja. What if it fails, and david does not return to that road for four months.

[Edited on 4-26-2017 by joerover]

blackwolfmt - 4-25-2017 at 06:27 PM

Goats have hooves not hands, whats going on here:lol:

BajaBreak - 4-25-2017 at 09:26 PM

I loathe the internet, but it has some good stuff sometimes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7-6nXGflec

bajatrailrider - 4-25-2017 at 11:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  
Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaBreak  

The 650r will have to go soon, maybe after one last ride. Gotta stay in shape, but not trail riding BRP shape....


you mean not scott summers shape... and no thats NOT photo shopped!


Scott Summers is the man. It's partly why I want a bored out xr250 trail bike. He recall he rode the xr6 or a trick xr250 depending on the course. I remember that article, and reading about his training. I tried holding a few bikes like that, and quickly realized I was not Scott Summers!


...health benefits of dirt biking?
I can lift my mountain bike with one finger of one hand. What's with you dirt bikers being so weak? :lol:
My 6 year old can also lift your Mountain bike MT666. He is stronger smarter then you,your the biggest wimp on here. 10,000$ offer still waiting you pussy cat hiding behind your computer. Be a man once in your life show all that your not a deranged looser. OPPS guess you are even more of a wimp then we all know you are. Arm chair talker shut up or take the 10 grand offer. :?::?::?::?::?::?:

JZ - 4-27-2017 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Have to admit I do love the KTM 300 2 smoke,much more reliable then KTM 4 stroke. Only problem in Baja only good for short day rides around house.One buddy went on 4 day ride with me on Gas Gas 300 2 smoke.He used 8 Gal fuel in one day 180 miles,If it was not for a Mexican rancher. In the middle of nowhere with extra gas in back of his truck.We would have had to leave the Gas Gas 300 there. Even after the Drama he still had to bum gas from our Xrs to get back.So he used over 8 gal fuel that day.:)


It's a 250, which gets better gas mileage than the 300. Suppose to get 80+ miles per tank with hard riding.

My son got the 250 xc-f which is a 4-stroke. It's holds less gas though.

Going to go ride them tomorrow for the first time.

We always ride with a chase truck in Baja carrying gas and beer.



[Edited on 4-28-2017 by JZ]

David K - 4-28-2017 at 08:15 AM

I will have my trip report finished soon if that helps you plan your run. What I found is the coast road between Canoas and Faro San José should be done with a 4x4 support vehicle or loop around via Hwy 1 to avoid the bad sections. I can make a map that points out the 4x4 sections for your chase truck to use.or avoid. The area is a great riding region! I would love to ride in there from a camp spot... maybe if I was younger!?

[Edited on 4-28-2017 by David K]

JZ - 4-28-2017 at 08:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I will have my trip report finished soon if that helps you plan your run. What I found is the coast road between Canoas and Faro San José should be done with a 4x4 support vehicle or loop around via Hwy 1 to avoid the bad sections. I can make a map that points out the 4x4 sections for your chase truck to use.or avoid. The area is a great riding region! I would love to ride in there from a camp spot... maybe if I was younger!?

[Edited on 4-28-2017 by David K]


I wonder if you can go Catavina straight down to San Jose (through the Town Hall camp) in a truck easy enough.

That's the route from the Baja Divide. I'd like to make it to Punta Lobos with a stop at Blanco first and this looks like it could be a shorter route if it's do-able.


David K - 4-28-2017 at 08:45 AM

I will work on my next installment before my afternoon appointment, which covers the road from Faro San José south.

Basically, it is a two track/ 'Jeep road' from San José to Punta Cono jcn. which is where the superior dirt highway begins and any car or RV can drive north to from the Santa Rosalillita highway.

In short, 38 miles of unimproved road from San José to the start of the dirt highway (Cono) that I did not need 4WD on.

Martyman - 4-28-2017 at 10:17 AM

Dirt bikes are a big help to the dodgers, padres, etc. with the Giants ace, Madison Bumgardner taking a spill on a bike and hurting his shoulder! Go Giants!

bajatrailrider - 4-28-2017 at 10:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Martyman  
Dirt bikes are a big help to the dodgers, padres, etc. with the Giants ace, Madison Bumgardner taking a spill on a bike and hurting his shoulder! Go Giants!
Prey tell what does this have to do with anything?:):?: