Oso - 9-8-2003 at 06:18 PM
This relates more to Mayan than Spanish but I thought it was an interesting tidbit, illustrative of all the miscommunication between native peoples
and europeans over the years. This is how the state and peninsula got its name: One of the first Spanish explorer/conquistadores asked an Indian
what the place was called. The Indian replied "I'm not from around here." The Spaniard wrote down what he thought he heard and thus we have Yucatan,
also known as the land of the deer and the pheasant.
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Big Al - 9-10-2003 at 04:47 PM
I don't understand? Is this a joke?
"Yucatan" = "no soy de aqui"
Oso - 9-11-2003 at 09:24 AM
No joke. Just a bit of historical trivia I picked up on a Spanish website.
Here's a joke for your translation practice:
Comentario de una madre: "Pobrecita de mi hija, que mala suerte tiene. F?jase que su marido le sali? cornudo!"
Dave - 9-11-2003 at 05:59 PM
Oso, I heard it a little differently. When asked "what place is this?" the Mayan replied....Yu-chua-tan.... which I'm told in Mayan means....I don't
understand you.
Sometimes bad luck is better than no luck at all.
Oso - 9-12-2003 at 09:16 AM
Could be. I only know a few words of Mayan, but the process sounds familiar. Most American Indian tribes have two names, one they call themselves
and one others call them. The latter is sometimes derogatory and sometimes given to them by enemies. The former is generally some form of "people,
humans, the real people" or so on. (My wife's people are H?a?hu, called Otom? by the Spanish). I once made up a story to illustrate this: A European
explorer "discovers" some Indians and, through faulty translation, asks "What are you?" The respondent replies, "Us? We're just people." "And what
about the tribe just over that mountain?" asks the explorer. "Those guys?" says the Indian, "They're no damn good." And thus, generations later you
have a tribe called the Peepholes and their neighbors, the Nodamguds.
tjgringo - 11-19-2003 at 02:56 PM
keep in mind that this process of not understanding each other is going on right now on this and every website