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Truck campers not allowed into Mexico - only with 1/2 ton Truck!

unbob - 9-22-2017 at 09:35 PM

Say what? I have 1-ton with camper - so I'm now banned from entering Baja? Seriously?

Anyone here heard of this? Or been turned back at the border?

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/294...

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/294...

David K - 9-23-2017 at 12:09 AM

Read the latest post in that huge thread (second link of yours):

Posted: 09/22/17 10:33pm
Mike & Terri Church just crossed at Nogales with no issue.

Hook - 9-23-2017 at 04:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Read the latest post in that huge thread (second link of yours):

Posted: 09/22/17 10:33pm
Mike & Terri Church just crossed at Nogales with no issue.


That may be true, but I dont think this puts an end to this controversy. We have all experienced uneven enforcement at all the border crossings.

But if ANYONE is denied at ANY crossing, I hope they will report it on Nomads.

rts551 - 9-23-2017 at 09:10 AM

TIP required for rv at Tecate....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155734821794320&am...

unbob - 9-23-2017 at 09:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Read the latest post in that huge thread (second link of yours):

Posted: 09/22/17 10:33pm
Mike & Terri Church just crossed at Nogales with no issue.
David, thanks for that comment. It was late last night so did not read all of it. After reading the last two pages (13 & 14) of that thread I feel a little better - but not much.

unbob - 9-23-2017 at 09:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
TIP required for rv at Tecate....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155734821794320&am...
Since when is a TIP required when entering Baja? Got a link for that requirement?

Hook - 9-23-2017 at 09:37 AM

You cant get a TIP for a truck camper. I'd love it, if you could, but I've tried.

Some did get a TIP for a truck camper when the TIPS for RVs first started, but I havent heard of anyone getting one in a long time. Not saying it cant happen, given how things change from crossing to crossing.

Hook - 9-23-2017 at 09:51 AM

I have a place in the "free zone" or "hassle-free" zone, with respect to vehicles, in Sonora. We have had to get a TIP for a true RV for a few years now.

Pretty sure these zone exemptions have always applied to only personal vehicles, not RVs. And it was just not enforced in Baja. Appears that has changed.

Not a huge deal, really. About 50 bucks for a 10 year permit.

Where it could get dicey is if Aduana starts poking around all of Mexico and forcing any RV parked here or there to get a TIP. That would be a big money-maker for Mexico and fairly easy for most to afford. Once upon a time, the RV had to apply at the border only, but they can be gotten by mail OUTSIDE OF MEXICO.

unbob - 9-23-2017 at 12:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  
Quote: Originally posted by unbob  
You have to read the Talk Baja Thread...but here is a snippet.

XXXXXXXXXXXX You do not need a tip if you are only in the Baja
Like · Reply · 18 hrs
Manage
XXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXX: Apparently things have changed. The last two weeks nearly everyone crossing have had to get a T.I.P. for their RV's...plus, we already know about the boats coming into Baja..
Like · Reply · 18 hrs
Manage
XXXXXXXXXX: Yep. Things have changed. Needed one for my class c. And they knew I was only in the Baja
Like · Reply · 13 hrs

Another snippet: "I crossed at Tecate 2 weeks ago in a new 24' motorhome. They looked at paperwork, took a quick look inside and wished me a safe trip. No mention of a TIP."

I'm not expecting any problems - business as usual.

What is a TIP

John M - 9-23-2017 at 07:24 PM

Seems I may be one of the few that don't know.

John M

Edited to say, I suppose I'd know if I needed one!



[Edited on 9-24-2017 by John M]

BajaGlenn - 9-23-2017 at 07:40 PM

TIP==Temp import Permit

Hook - 9-23-2017 at 08:07 PM

The term TIP is often used for 2-3 different types of permits.

One TIP is the permit that "conventional" cars and trucks get to travel on the mainland, outside of the "free zone".

One TIP is the 10 year importation permit for true RVs (TTs, 5ers, Class A-C motorhomes, etc.

One TIP is the 10 year importation permit for boats entering and/or remaining in Mexico above a certain length.

David K - 9-23-2017 at 08:07 PM

What tourists need to pay (refundable deposit) to drive on the mainland beyond Guaymas. It insures you don't sell your car in Mexico.

JZ - 9-23-2017 at 09:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
What tourists need to pay (refundable deposit) to drive on the mainland beyond Guaymas. It insures you don't sell your car in Mexico.


You also need one in the "free zone" of Sonora if you are bringing ATVs or dirt bikes. Need one for the truck and the same permit can include up to 3 ORVs.

bajatrailrider - 9-23-2017 at 09:59 PM

Very strange as friends visit me almost every week. With campers,motor homes. Not one was ever asked for this. Even today friend came from Utah camper with race truck on trailer. Hit and miss baja rules.

ehall - 9-24-2017 at 06:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Very strange as friends visit me almost every week. With campers,motor homes. Not one was ever asked for this. Even today friend came from Utah camper with race truck on trailer. Hit and miss baja rules.



They probably do what I do. Tell the border guard they are going to see baja Larry and don't have time for their nonsense. Haha. How are you my friend?

bajatrailrider - 9-24-2017 at 08:29 AM

JAAAA Ed Utah Jim here race truck and dirt bikes baby sitting house. While I take off to Otay Mesa hoping my guest makes it from Mexico City. Wishing you well Ed.

Campertraveler - 9-27-2017 at 10:43 AM

Last week I went directly to "the horses' mouth" (the SAT office at the border entry point in Reynosa, Tamps. Mexico, with my F350 pickup and a Lance 1130 camper, they reviewed the unit and the paperwork.

"This unit is NOT allowed into Mexico" was the answer!!! I asked to speak with the custom director, and he also told me the same. Both the registration, title, and the vehicle serial number and identification plates were reviewed. I told them I had to go to Mexcio for turismo....

The two suggestions were made:
1. If I could make arrangement with the border entry customs agent....ummmm?

2. Have the Texas motor vehicle dept change my veh classification to be a "MOTORHOME",,, IF it showed motorhome there would be no problem, and a 10 year permit would be issued.

Well, thats the story FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....and this is what the campers owners will face on arrival at the border.

bajaguy - 9-27-2017 at 10:50 AM

Go to the next border crossing or wait a few days, the answer will change
Quote: Originally posted by Campertraveler  
Last week I went directly to "the horses' mouth" (the SAT office at the border entry point in Reynosa, Tamps. Mexico, with my F350 pickup and a Lance 1130 camper, they reviewed the unit and the paperwork.

"This unit is NOT allowed into Mexico" was the answer!!! I asked to speak with the custom director, and he also told me the same. Both the registration, title, and the vehicle serial number and identification plates were reviewed. I told them I had to go to Mexcio for turismo....

The two suggestions were made:
1. If I could make arrangement with the border entry customs agent....ummmm?

2. Have the Texas motor vehicle dept change my veh classification to be a "MOTORHOME",,, IF it showed motorhome there would be no problem, and a 10 year permit would be issued.

Well, thats the story FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....and this is what the campers owners will face on arrival at the border.

Howard - 9-27-2017 at 10:50 AM

So what did you do? Did you get across and how?

mtgoat666 - 9-27-2017 at 11:24 AM

this thread has some useful info on mexico's vehicle classification:

https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/294...

Hook - 9-27-2017 at 12:44 PM

I'm in that thread and trying to get clarification. Part of it seems to indicate that SAT officials are saying that if your truck camper cannot qualify for the 10 year RV TIP, then you can go the route of temporarily importing it through an importer. That could be really expensive.

Still, I have seen nothing about this denial of crossing at anything but a Texas crossing.

Surely, there must be truck campers crossing nearly every day along the AZ and CA border. If anyone knows someone who has crossed, tell them to post it.

SFandH - 9-28-2017 at 03:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Campertraveler  
Last week I went directly to "the horses' mouth" (the SAT office at the border entry point in Reynosa, Tamps. Mexico, with my F350 pickup and a Lance 1130 camper, they reviewed the unit and the paperwork.

"This unit is NOT allowed into Mexico" was the answer!!! I asked to speak with the custom director, and he also told me the same. Both the registration, title, and the vehicle serial number and identification plates were reviewed. I told them I had to go to Mexcio for turismo....

The two suggestions were made:
1. If I could make arrangement with the border entry customs agent....ummmm?

2. Have the Texas motor vehicle dept change my veh classification to be a "MOTORHOME",,, IF it showed motorhome there would be no problem, and a 10 year permit would be issued.

Well, thats the story FROM THE HORSES MOUTH....and this is what the campers owners will face on arrival at the border.


I think the first suggestion means to tell the guy at the border your name is Ben Franklin and offer him a green piece of paper with your picture on it. You may want to try Ulysses S. Grant first. I don't think Andrew Jackson will cut it.

TRUCK CAMPER

J.P. - 9-28-2017 at 03:38 PM

The new Rules should bring the price of used campers Waaaaay down.:no::no: