With the demise of Photobucket for free or inexpensive hosting of our maps and photos, this is a test to see how Postimage.org does with maps... A big
thank you to Barry A for sharing this map... Mine had been marked on and torn over the 43 years I had it!
This is posted for historic educational purposes and arranged from north to south, overall and close-ups:
1974 was the final year that the northern 1/4 Baja California was shown in such large detail (scale). The reverse side of the map had the smaller
scale remainder of the peninsula.
[Edited on 6-10-2018 by David K]Barry A. - 11-6-2017 at 02:52 PM
Looks to me like it came thru just perfect, David. Good Job, and so glad that you and the folks are getting good use out of that map. It sure was
not doing much good sitting in my map cabinet. LOLUdo - 11-6-2017 at 04:02 PM
Looks like the area north of Ensenada, which is now known as the VALLE DE GUADALUPE, was originally known only as GUADALUPE.
To the locals, it is now known just as the VALLE.David K - 11-6-2017 at 04:46 PM
Looks like the area north of Ensenada, which is now known as the VALLE DE GUADALUPE, was originally known only as GUADALUPE.
To the locals, it is now known just as the VALLE.
Historically, the town was Guadalupe (named for the 1834-1840 mission there) and the colony of Russians (Rusos) from the time of the czars!
The Mexican government, in a PC move, renamed the town, Francisco Zarco. The locals coined the 'Valle de Guadalupe' brand to preserve the historic
name, I think?David K - 11-6-2017 at 05:24 PM
Looks to me like it came thru just perfect, David. Good Job, and so glad that you and the folks are getting good use out of that map. It sure was
not doing much good sitting in my map cabinet. LOL
You know how much I appreciate your generosity, Barry. This was an April 1974 map, made just 5 months after Hwy. 1 was completed!
I am seeking the 1973 issue of the AAA map to see where the pavement and any new roadbed was shown. A 1972 issue would be as equally appreciated.
I do remember one of them, the '73 I think, that showed the paving part way to San Ignacio from Santa Rosalia, northbound. San Quintin or nearby,
southbound.
My first road guide was made in August 1973 from the family July trip down the new (and much of the old) roadbed...
My dad and I were following construction progress of Highway 1 closely and the rumors were indicating the final 300 miles of old road were a thing of
the past and paving was not far off (San Quintin-San Ignacio). Dad sold his 4WD Chevy Suburban and bought a Ford LTD Wagon with the 460 Lincoln
engine. He had adjustable air shocks installed and a second gas tank added to make this pre-Hwy. 1 Baja trip possible in an otherwise street-wagon.
I made close notes of the highway route, odometer readings, compass directions, etc. to document this brand new road that most knew very little about.
I had heard that El Arco was bypassed and the highway went closer to the newer town of Guerrero Negro after leaving San Ignacio.
This was (and still is) the kind of stuff that is great fun for me... I was 15 years old then!
In July 1973, we were a bit shocked when the paving ended so soon (at the Mission San Fernando junction, 40 miles beyond El Rosario). The new graded
roadbed we could drive ended near Rancho Sonora there was an access to Agua Dulce spring (for water trucks to fill for roadbed construction). From
there all the way to Laguna Chapala, it was the old main road we traveled by Jeep on in 1966! We did stop at Rancho Santa Ynez to see about staying in
the bunk rooms, but upon inspection, my mom would have none of that (very dusty)! We slept in the wagon somewhere south of Santa Ynez.
If anyone is wondering, there was no Cataviña, yet. That place (an old rancho site) would become a 'Parador' (gas station, rest stop, trailer park,
cafeteria, and Hotel El Presidente, and eventually a small town) after the highway was finished.
We drove in the famous (infamous) Chapala dust field alongside the new roadbed which had reached that point by July. My dad had me get out to take a
photo of his station wagon 'mastering' the Chapala dust!
A little further up, on the new roadbed:
We encountered paving (but not yet driveable) somewhere north of Punta Prieta... the road to Bahía de los Angeles was not marked or we didn't see it.
There was nothing yet where the new paved L.A. junction would be.
Paving would end and begin again in sections as far south as around Jesus María (I recall), then all paved south. We stayed at the only motel there
was in Guerrero Negro in 1973, the Dunas... Loreto would be an easy drive from there the next day.
This is what I produced after the trip, very low budget, but I sold every one I made, at a couple of bookstores in Escondido (near where I lived,
then). It even got onto a morning TV show in San Diego (Ch. 8's Sun up):
Some samples of inside:
Hey, even at 15, Baja was my 'drug of choice'
[Edited on 11-7-2017 by David K]Udo - 11-6-2017 at 05:28 PM
Wow...what a historian, as well as a cartographer!PaulW - 11-7-2017 at 04:23 AM
For Postimage what image size do you recommend?David K - 11-7-2017 at 09:46 AM
The above are at the Nomad max of 800 pixels. I believe that level is called '15" Monitor', but the Forum choice (640) is big, too, just not full
Nomad size, which I like for maps.AlanDavid90 - 11-12-2017 at 03:28 PM
First time on this forum, Is Stunning this Map of Baja California from 1974David K - 11-12-2017 at 04:01 PM
Welcome to Baja Nomad! There is a ton of maps from the past posted here the past 15 years. Please feel free to request any special area or zoom in
images.AlanDavid90 - 11-12-2017 at 07:53 PM
Thanks DavidBajaTed - 11-12-2017 at 09:25 PM
From the first picture of TJ and area, I remember the Bullring that is shown by the jct of the 1D and the M2, those were the days, hurraches,
bullwhips and BIG firecrackersBarry A. - 11-12-2017 at 10:01 PM
From the first picture of TJ and area, I remember the Bullring that is shown by the jct of the 1D and the M2, those were the days, hurraches,
bullwhips and BIG firecrackers
Yep---------really BIG firecrackers!!! Cherry-bombs, which were tiny bits of TNT, or sounded and acted like them!!! LOL fishbuck - 11-12-2017 at 11:17 PM
For some reason I find this map to be comforting and refreshing.David K - 2-5-2018 at 11:27 AM
I am still hoping someone has the 1973 and/or 1972 AAA (Auto Club of Southern California) Baja Maps that can be shared here to compare to the April
1974 issue, above. Any of them from 1970-1973, in fact!
Thank you!TMW - 2-5-2018 at 12:54 PM
I have a 7-71 and a 9-73 version.BigBearRider - 2-5-2018 at 03:09 PM
I have the version that is mostly Orange and blue on the cover. I don't have it with me, and cannot recall what year it is, but I think it's later.
And, I think I've seen you post from it before, so I believe you have it. JZ - 2-5-2018 at 03:56 PM
Interesting that the "Know before you go" is almost exactly the same 40 years later. ligui - 2-5-2018 at 04:36 PM
Hi Guys ! good to jump in again . Dave K I've got some old maps ... Shelll map of Mexico and Baja Mexico 1960 and 1961 and some others .Would like to
dig thru files and send them to you ,and maybe you could look at them and see if you could get something out of them . Then send them back and i'm
going to frame them .
How about KYM's Guide No.6 Baja California Sea of Cortez 1968 ? Know that I have some AAA books / maps in there too
.
Let me know . Got Baja ! David K - 2-5-2018 at 04:54 PM
Very cool... if you guys have the ability, please scan and share them or email the scans my way. Mailing them to me is another option and I can mail
them back if you want them back. TW, I sent you a u2u. That is great. I want to see how AAA showed pavement progress, most of which was between 1971
and the end of 1973. If my teenage memory from 1972/73 serves me right, the '73 map shows pavement north partially to San Ignacio from Santa Rosalia
and perhaps south to San Quintin. The '72 map shows south to Colonia Guerrero and north to Santa Rosalia...? So much was done in the single year of
1973 (San Quintin to San Ignacio)!!!TMW - 2-5-2018 at 05:33 PM
The 71 map shows the pavement ending at Camalu from the north and at Santa Rosalia in Baja Sur. The 73 map shows the pavement ends at EL Progresso
from the north and EL Crucero from the south.
The 71 map does not show a low road along where El Datil is but the 73 map does but calls where El Datil is by the name El Deleadito.David K - 2-5-2018 at 06:12 PM
El Crucero, below Calamajué?
When we drove the road, under construction, in July 1973. The pavement going south did end near El Progreso (at Mission San Fernando first exit)
southbound.
We saw the first blacktop after that around Punta Prieta area and could drive on sections of it until it was all blacktop from around Villa Jesus
María... maybe closer to El Tomatal road.
We were on the original Baja 1000 road from around Agua Dulce area to Laguna Chapala. There was activity near Santa Ynez. There was no Cataviña
buildings (Pemex, Hotel, Parador) at all yet. Like Vizcaino, it was a town that didn't exist until the highway was built. The original Ejido Vizcaino
was a few miles west of the new highway route... closer to Wison's Ranch (El Piloto).TMW - 2-5-2018 at 09:37 PM
Maybe AAA based it on what the Mexican government told them at the time.David K - 2-5-2018 at 10:08 PM
I am sure the auto club got the location from their staff or good source. I don't think many government people knew details in central Baja in mid
1973... especially at the speed all those construction crews were moving along that year! David K - 2-8-2018 at 04:11 PM
OK, a big THANK YOU to TW!
I have the 1971 and 1973 editions...
I will scan and post.
