BajaNomad - Inreach track point viewing

Inreach track point viewing

PaulW - 11-7-2017 at 10:14 PM

Works for me
Inreach settings
Map: heading = up, All others = on
Tracking: Send = 10 min, Log interval = 30 Sec, extend = off, prompt = off, Auto track = On
Before trip plug in Inreach to PC
Sync
Unplug and turn on the Inreach and send message to your own email
Begin your trip, When done turn off Inreach
Connect Inreach to PC
Sync
When done with Sync choose” MAP”
On the left choose message filters. Message type. Only choose “track points” not others.
Date & time choose most recent. Or if you wait too long choose last 7 days.
WAIT
Result is track with dots and no stupid straight lines
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The link you received via email will always have the straight lines which are the 10 minute WPs.
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To share the track with track points make a screen shot of the Map on your sync view on your Garmin account.
Here is todays trip from home to the entrance of canyon Dilabilito

rich t - 11-7-2017 at 10:31 PM

Paul, How do you like using the inreach as a GPS vs stand alone GPS'S?

PaulW - 11-7-2017 at 10:42 PM

Not great because of lack of detail for the map.
I am using Lowrance for Baja and Inreach and ORUX for the US and
I find the Earthmate map which is required for Inreach to lack detail It is much better for the US compared to Lowrance.
ORUX allows nice big tablet like Earthmate) and has the ability to load custom maps. It holds great promise.
In any event the ability to send custom messages with Inreach will will trump all others. combined with a real GPS.

rich t - 11-8-2017 at 08:18 AM

Thanks for the info, our Fire Dept. was thinking about getting the inreach and using it to replace our GPS's and I had heard the GPS aspect was not very good, wanted to verify it from a real user.

BajaBlanca - 11-8-2017 at 09:22 AM

That is a very neat looking mapped route.

David K - 11-8-2017 at 09:26 AM

Paul, I did exactly what you listed... input the date range for a single day's travel, select Track Points with the others turned off...

Here is my track point (only) map for 24 hours starting October 14, 8:05 am: Camp near La Corona to the observatory to Meling to El Coyote towards Mike's to by brake fail point, then back to El Coyote:

Still the straight, fly-over lines. Advise, please. They seem to connect the slightly larger circles?

PaulW - 11-8-2017 at 04:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Paul, I did exactly what you listed... input the date range for a single day's travel, select Track Points with the others turned off...

Here is my track point (only) map for 24 hours starting October 14, 8:05 am: Camp near La Corona to the observatory to Meling to El Coyote towards Mike's to by brake fail point, then back to El Coyote:

Still the straight, fly-over lines. Advise, please. They seem to connect the slightly larger circles?
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Let me explain further
My new settings for future trips
Inreach settings, tracking:
choose send 10 minutes, and log 1 sec.
The result is more points.
You always get straight lines between points so more points mean less straight lines or invisible lines. Even tho the trip I posted had less points than above it was good enough for my slow driving. New settings above will be even better. Fast driving means points are further apart and more straight lines to connect the points.
You cannot go back to an older trip and create points, so you must do the Inreach setup before your trip then Sync. Then after the trip make the Map settings (on your account) to agree with Inreach. I like to set my Map set up first then change my Inreach settings then Sync, then drive.
Keep your Inreach plugged in at all times because with the settings above you will have a short battery life.
If one was going hiking on battery then much fewer points and longer send would be appropriate.
So here is a picture if I zoom way in on the trip to Dilabito. Note that straight lines are present and small dots are track points and big dots are send dots.

PaulW - 11-8-2017 at 04:42 PM

PS no micky mouse power from your stock vehicle. Power must be on always not just when your key is on. All my cars had to be rewired to provide direct poser from the battery.

David K - 11-8-2017 at 04:50 PM

You are not understanding me... Please look at the map I posted... I was driving on the road and not flying. The points along the road are fine, it is the addition straight lines connecting random, further apart points... as if a drone was also recording and hopping ahead short-cutting. Look at the map. See the road drive and then also see several straight lines in addition?

PaulW - 11-8-2017 at 05:31 PM

When you took the trip tell me your setup
Inreach settings, tracking:
send xx minutes, and log xx sec??

David K - 11-8-2017 at 05:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW

When you took the trip tell me your setup
Inreach settings, tracking:
send xx minutes, and log xx sec??

Exactly the same, and it wasn't shut off.
I set the map above for the one day I went to the observatory.
My camp was near the new entrance, drove to the observatory, then back and on down to El Coyote and beyond then ended at El Coyote.

1-minute log interval, 10-minute send interval. Why the additional flyover straight lines is the mystery. They are random, too... connecting distant points sometimes and 10 min. points others, and again, sometimes.

Blue arrows pointing to some of the straight track lines that I did not travel on:

[Edited on 11-9-2017 by David K]

PaulW - 11-8-2017 at 06:01 PM

The only thing I can think of is did you sync before and after the trip?
The instructions I found said it is required.

David K - 11-8-2017 at 06:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW

The only thing I can think of is did you sync before and after the trip?
The instructions I found said it is required.

I sync before and after each trip (and many other times as well). How would not syncing add these straight lines, anyway?

Today trip

PaulW - 11-15-2017 at 07:10 PM

Recent trip - today. No stupid straight lines. Just lines connecting the track points. No difference when I zoom way in.

David K - 11-15-2017 at 08:42 PM

The track of the road I was on is complete, no loss of satellite. Note from my map above that the many straight lines (pointed out) are parallel to the actual driven track and that was all in one 24 hour period. The additional (straight) lines were auto added with no obvious reason for why.
Thanks for any suggestions!

David K - 11-16-2017 at 10:38 AM

From Garmin, finally got a reply that had to actually do with my issue (I got previous replies that did not apply):

Hello David,

Are you making sure to Start your tracking when you are hiking and Stop it when you are done? If you leave tracking on all the time it will always connect all tracks.

I'm not sure you will be able to delete just the portions of "flyover" lines as you call them. You can look in the track summary and see if the segment is available to delete otherwise you will be unable to do what you want with past tracks but going forward if you Start/Stop tracking appropriately you should not have issues.

mtgoat666 - 11-16-2017 at 11:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

From Garmin, finally got a reply that had to actually do with my issue (I got previous replies that did not apply):

Hello David,

Are you making sure to Start your tracking when you are hiking and Stop it when you are done? If you leave tracking on all the time it will always connect all tracks.

I'm not sure you will be able to delete just the portions of "flyover" lines as you call them. You can look in the track summary and see if the segment is available to delete otherwise you will be unable to do what you want with past tracks but going forward if you Start/Stop tracking appropriately you should not have issues.

doesn't garmin software/interface let you edit tracks, add or delete points?

PaulW - 11-16-2017 at 02:59 PM

Not sure about Garmin because I always use trackmaker and delete works fine.
Inreach allows exporting the track points to the GPX format from the map screen and I go from there. I think I already said that.

PaulW - 11-16-2017 at 03:37 PM

Very frustrating. I am getting the 10 minute points and not getting the 1 second track points. My settings are 10 min and 1 sec. I start with sync with power off and with stop tracking all give the same result. Track before start and no sync and with Sync

If I remember correctly David you got both 10 min and 1 sec is that correct?

David K - 11-16-2017 at 04:08 PM

1 minute, not 1 second. Yes.

Inreach today 11/21/17

PaulW - 11-21-2017 at 06:53 PM

Followed instruction thins time and got all my track points to display.Tiny straight lines between each point
So - settings are 10 min , send interva, 1 secl log interval. I cleared the track. (when done I had used 12% of my Inreach memory.)
Clear track, Sync, send message to my email and start tracking. When I got home I executed the Inreach stop command and did another sync. Opened the link from my email and got the usual unacceptable 10 second plot even with settings only for track points and latest track.
Opened my Garmin Inreach account and chose map. Made sure I had only checked track points, then chose last 24 hours. Result was all track points were displayed and no extraneous straight lines.

GE screen shot

Screen shot for Account map page

Screen shot greatly blown up. Shows all the track points. Note that the out and back portion shows double track points.

PaulW - 12-19-2017 at 03:19 PM

More details
I have taken a large number of driving trips in the last three months and none of the trips when viewed in the email link have the straight lines. Then when going to my account and converting to a GPX file I have success with a valid file. This is validated by opening the GPX file in Trackmaker which allows me to zoom way in to see if all my breadcrumbs have been captured – success.
The trips when viewed on the email link show very few track points (10-minute interval), however they are all in place on the roads I drove. This file is not the place to use for a GPS track. They are just far apart, but allows a good overview. I send an email to myself for each trip/day to allow the detail to be captured.
Something I have found to be important is to create a GPX file each day to avoid multiple trips from merging together. They are very hard to break apart. First I Sync in my account then I create the GPX file. Then I go to the Inreach device and clear the track then Sync and I am ready to do another day or trip.
I generate so many breadcrumbs (track points) that I must keep my Inreach device powered externally always.
I still have not figured out how to display (as I am driving) the track on Earthmate (on my Android tablet), but they show up great on any IOS device.

Merge the above with my previous post for more detail.

David K - 12-19-2017 at 07:20 PM

Thanks for the details Paul.
Not sure if I can change anything I already saved... But, for sure, there was no reason for the rouge straight lines to appear randomly as they did on my tracks.

PaulW - 12-20-2017 at 07:40 AM

An example for you to play with using the email link.
Choose “track points” only and “most recent track” and what you get is shown below. Obviously, the image is the default 10 minute breadcrumbs (track points). If you use the default settings you will get a straight line in addition to the track. Try it.

Here is the link to play with:
https://share.garmin.com/PaulWilson Ha - now you all can track my travels forever I don't care. Just like me you will have trouble going back in time.
Note, as you zoom way in, each 10 minute track point will be connected with a straight line. That also happens with the GPX file except the many points are very close together and does not affect the resolution or readability.

And here is the screen shot of the result with correct settings:

StuckSucks - 12-20-2017 at 06:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW

Here is the link to play with:
https://share.garmin.com/PaulWilson Ha - now you all can track my travels forever I don't care. Just like me you will have trouble going back in time.

Ahhhh ... Durango, one of my favorite place to ride mtb. "God owns a mountain bike and he lives in Durango."

PaulW - 12-21-2017 at 06:48 AM

Nice place to hang out in summer and great off road possibilities for our Jeeping. Lots of folks that like what we do. Including George and his 1072. Others also