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Water and fruit

white whale - 1-10-2018 at 07:41 PM

Water: Anything like we'd see north of the border? Potable or not. U fill type.

Fresh fruit: roadside pop up stores. I assume the grow season is all year.

David K - 1-10-2018 at 08:03 PM

What is the full question? Are you asking if they have water? Yes, bottled and self fill. Just like north of the border. You are allowed to bring your own food and water into Mexico, too.

Roadside stands that sell fruit? Some, but more typical are fruit stores in most bigger towns.

tobias - 1-10-2018 at 08:45 PM

I cant wait to go back to having papaya for breakfast every day. Just a few more weeks

white whale - 1-10-2018 at 09:37 PM

Yes maybe light on my question details. So a u-fill water spot is just as good as bottled in a store? I was thinking about the rotopax water packs for camp setup.
What do the veterans do for for water fill and storage? Is a u fill something you would commonly see? Are they stand alone or inside a store?

Fresh fruit , best spots for, or is quality everywhere.

mtgoat666 - 1-10-2018 at 09:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Water: Anything like we'd see north of the border?

Yes, is H2O, just like in the USA!

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Potable or not?

Yes

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

U fill type?

Yes

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Fresh fruit: roadside pop up stores?

Yes. They also have supermarkets, c-stores, fruit stands, street vendors

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

I assume the grow season is all year.

Your assumption is wrong!

mtgoat666 - 1-10-2018 at 09:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Yes maybe light on my question details. So a u-fill water spot is just as good as bottled in a store? yes

I was thinking about the rotopax water packs for camp setup. thats a pricy water jug! i use plastic jugs you can by at Target for a few bucks

What do the veterans do for for water fill and storage? fill, drink, repeat!

Is a u fill something you would commonly see? Are they stand alone or inside a store? most every town has a water store

Fresh fruit , best spots for, or is quality everywhere. depends!

John Harper - 1-11-2018 at 08:17 AM

Huge difference. In Mexico, they call it agua. Can you believe that?

John

Bajazly - 1-11-2018 at 10:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Water: Anything like we'd see north of the border? Potable or not. U fill type.

Look for the purificado, Most towns have one.

wilderone - 1-11-2018 at 12:28 PM

Depending on where you're going, there are fresh water wells too. In Catavina there is a nice one very near Sta Inez. Mision San Borja has a well. Vizcaino has fruit vendors near the gas station with oranges. Just outside Ensenada there are a couple large fruit/vege stands. Pineapple and avocados should be in now. I take canned stuff and dried fruit too if I'm between markets or fresh stuff isn't fresh.

sancho - 1-11-2018 at 02:57 PM

The water stores I generally deal with have the, I believe,
osmosis filter system, most locals get water there, can't
remember exactly, $.20 a gal? Mas o memos. 5 gal. water jug from home. I assume some/most winter
fruit comes up from the mainland. I try to buy from roadside
stands, if available, quality can very, not that you asked, but don't expect to get
fruit or food for some mythical low price

[Edited on 1-11-2018 by sancho]

bajabuddha - 1-11-2018 at 03:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by wilderone

Depending on where you're going, there are fresh water wells too. In Catavina there is a nice one very near Sta Inez. Mision San Borja has a well. Vizcaino has fruit vendors near the gas station with oranges. Just outside Ensenada there are a couple large fruit/vege stands. Pineapple and avocados should be in now. I take canned stuff and dried fruit too if I'm between markets or fresh stuff isn't fresh.

Update on the Santa Ynez well/tap. It's in the center of their courtyard, a single standing water spigot. Back in the day it was "Agua Dulce", the best water in Baja, and I would always stop there to fill my jugs. Last time ( a few years back) it tasted terrible and I got the Revenge from it. I believe it was from all the free ranging cattle now allowed to wander the property; there were cow patties everywhere, and it has possibly leached into the groundwater tables... dunno how deep their 'well' actually is. I noticed the Rancho has deteriorated over the years, and maybe the water purity as well; use at your own risk. This is only one person's experience.

weebray - 1-11-2018 at 04:55 PM

I agree on the Santa Ynez situation but you should see what a disaster the son has made of Don Eddie's in San Q. It's not worth the cost of diesel to level it.

wilderone - 1-11-2018 at 05:16 PM

Just before Sta Inez - you can see the water flowing across the highway - a sandy turn-off goes toward the arroyo where there is a government solar-powered pump (I saw it used to fill very large pilas, but don't know how it works), and a few yards away there is the barrel with the water line connected to the source (unplug it and it will gush forth to fill smaller containers). Been there for years, and I've always drunk the water with no problem. I've never used the spigot at Sta Inez that you refer to.

BajaMama - 1-12-2018 at 09:56 AM

I don't know what you want to fill into but we always do 5 gallon bottles, like in office coolers. Can only speak for Mulege and Santa Rosalia but good water very, reasonable price.

motoged - 1-12-2018 at 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama

I don't know what you want to fill into but we always do 5 gallon bottles, like in office coolers. Can only speak for Mulege and Santa Rosalia but good water very, reasonable price.

Purificados may not be able to provide the empty 5 gal garrafons...so you should be prepared with your own agua containers.

white whale - 1-12-2018 at 12:17 PM

Thanks for the replies. Back to the purificados, they are automated....
coin operated type, stick your jug underneath the spout. Or something else. Is this part of public services or private businesses?

How does the baja water situation compare to other parts of Mexico?

mtgoat666 - 1-12-2018 at 12:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Thanks for the replies. Back to the purificados, they are automated....
coin operated type, stick your jug underneath the spout. Or something else. Is this part of public services or private businesses?

How does the baja water situation compare to other parts of Mexico?

water vendors have real people to fill your jugs. they take cash.

you should just go and travel -- sometimes you need to figure it out as you go, and experience an adventure outside of your normal box!

white whale - 1-12-2018 at 01:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Oh I see I posted on the Baja Snark board. My mistake. Site owner - 666 has declared your board sort of useless because you should all just figure it out yourselves. Knowledge is so overated - and I'm like a really smart guy, I know the best words believe me ... Printed guide books/maps? why bother just head south.

Glad you mention "real people" because there are alot of fake people. I'm convinced that fake people are doing all this "fake news" stuff I keep hearing many people talk about.

Thank you 666! What a box!

motoged - 1-12-2018 at 01:34 PM

The Goat's info was relevant ....some of the Nomads are short of patience with newbies (which we all were here at some time) when common sense questions surface....or ones that can be sorted out with a bit of Googling or on the first day of your travels.

Some Nomads are wary of possible trolls looking to set up conflict on this forum....and then playing victim...

Hope you get fresh water and veggies/fruit on your trip.

bajagrouper - 1-12-2018 at 01:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

You are allowed to bring your own food and water into Mexico, too.

Well not all food..........

http://rockypoint360.com/what-food-can-i-bring-across-the-bo...

David K - 1-12-2018 at 03:59 PM

Maybe I should have said into "Baja" and not into "Mexico" (Rocky Point being in Sonora)! :light:

Seriously, has ANYONE had food confiscated (for personal use) going INTO BAJA from California the past year or two?

There was the Mad Cow (and dry Dog Food) issues a few years ago.

white whale - 1-12-2018 at 04:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

The Goat's info was relevant ....some of the Nomads are short of patience with newbies (which we all were here at some time) when common sense questions surface....or ones that can be sorted out with a bit of Googling or on the first day of your travels.

Some Nomads are wary of possible trolls looking to set up conflict on this forum....and then playing victim...

Hope you get fresh water and veggies/fruit on your trip.

My 17 posts vs 10K of MrGoat, I should have looked there first rather than replying. Now I know what type he is. Politics, religion, sex I get the trolling satisfaction and excitement but trolling know it all baja RV'ers in the desert can't be much fun. Goat is the type that likes reverse trolling....." this idiot thinks there is no water in Mexico.... let me own him with my wit". If these power posters need the daily assurance of their baja knowledge why not just answer the hard questions and just leave the temptation of the newbies to others. I did get some informative replies, now I know about purificados , I did not know about them before. Who knows maybe he's just a perfect guy in person but with a platform and a keyboard and some free time he wants to go all Lucha Libre. There's a guy with an orange face that is sort of the same type. Thinks he's a genius.

So thank you to the people taking the time to post a tip and a story. if this trip happens I hope to be on the other side for once and post an answer or two.

To the nomad board owner, it would be nice to have an option to thank posters and keep that as a running tally along with the number of posts total. A car forum I post to has this feature - a virtual high five for someone that gave out a good answer.

motoged - 1-12-2018 at 05:17 PM

WW,
An interesting nom de plume....one sees it defined as:

"White Whale:
Term used to describe an opponent/nemesis who is extremely difficult to defeat."

Your focus on Goat may appear to fit that....

Or is simply a cetaceous reference....

Stick around for a while before you start telling the forum moderator how to run his site.... :light:

white whale - 1-12-2018 at 05:52 PM

"White Whale:
Term used to describe an opponent/nemesis who is extremely difficult to defeat."

You are thinking too much..... Seinfeld reference. Was a TV show a few years back, really funny. Newman was evading the parking ticket cop and was finally uncovered as the White Whale because he was sort of overweight.
Kramer was his lawyer in court. Sentence was he had to park in a pay parking garage. Classic.

Again with the knowledge, i did not know there was another meaning to white whale. Google, what the heck doesn't he know?

Loops, please direct your your site comment to this guy too: ticks me off.

BajaNomad Site Support
Please use this forum if you need help or assistance with the site. Also, if you have any site comments, suggestions, or other issues - this is the place to post.

Some other rube who want to run this site better than the owner. Site suggestions.... who does this guy think he is?

Have a nice day!

mtgoat666 - 1-12-2018 at 06:36 PM

call me ishmael...

surabi - 1-12-2018 at 09:35 PM

Rather than having to scout out local water purification places on your travels, the OXO convenience stores that are attached to almost every Pemex station (at least on the mainland, not sure about Baja) sell drinking water. If you want the 5 gallon size, you'll pay a deposit on the first jug, but after that, you can just trade the empty for a full one.
They come from the big bottling plants owned by Pepsi, CocaCola, etc, but I actually trust it more- I figure those big plants have some health inspections once in awhile, while the local ones don't. you'll pay more, but you're only talking about a buck difference for 5 gallons.

As far as fruit, it always amazes me that Americans and Canadians don't realize that of course Mexico has growing seasons. They think mango trees just produce fruit constantly all year long? And duh, Mexico has seasons.

Don Jorge - 1-13-2018 at 12:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Seriously, has ANYONE had food confiscated (for personal use) going INTO BAJA from California the past year or two? There was the Mad Cow (and dry Dog Food)issues a few years ago

Saturday past, crossing in via Tecate, they went inside our camper, searched the refrigerator and made us throw away selected fruits and veggies. They showed us the list of prohibited items on their phone screen. But, they let us keep our steaks and oranges.

OP: There are lots of places to buy fruits and water in Baja. Just go and enjoy!

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David K - 1-13-2018 at 10:15 AM

Thanks, Don Jorge... I made 8 trips into Baja last year and not once was anything taken from me... and that goes on to include over 50 years before. Things are changing. Do they actually think produce sold in America has bugs in it? If you could name what were (some of) the items forbidden, that would be helpful.

tobias - 1-13-2018 at 10:18 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Thanks, Don Jorge... I made 8 trips into Baja last year and not once was anything taken from me... and that goes on to include over 50 years before. Things are changing. Do they actually think produce sold in America has bugs in it? If you could name what were (some of) the items forbidden, that would be helpful.

My understanding is that if your camper is 3/4 ton or over and you have a trump sticker, 32 percent of all perishable goods will be confiscated.

motoged - 1-13-2018 at 10:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

.....Do they actually think produce sold in America has bugs in it? ...

Do you really think US produce is impervious to bugs? While your guy is busy MAGA....the occasional bug infestations may not have gotten the tweets....perhaps Mexican border agents are better at enforcing such safeguards...trying to keep bad stuff from s-hole countries from their own.... :biggrin:

David K - 1-13-2018 at 10:53 AM

LOL funny!
As for bugs... they can fly across the border.
I think the bugs that cause severe crop damage (like fruit flies) come from the tropics (ie south). Wasn't it interesting that the one fruit that can carry fruit fly eggs (oranges) was allowed into Mexico?
Don Jorge is the expert on produce growing, so I hope to hear more on all this new regulation from him.

Don Jorge - 1-13-2018 at 11:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by tobias

My understanding is that if your camper is 3/4 ton or over and you have a trump sticker, 32 percent of all perishable goods will be confiscated.

Perhaps? We cross every other weekend Jan - April going to Guadalupe.
Using our car to travel never any inspection. Driving the F350 with camper, stopped every time. We use Tecate with the camper rig to avoid the time delay for the x ray inspection at Tijuana.

Stickers? A few.
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Blame?

They took papayas from Peru, cucumbers and peppers from Mexico and onions from CA. Ni modo, me vale madre jiji.

larryC - 1-13-2018 at 11:15 AM

White Whale
Your question is too vague. Baja is a big place and near the large cities you will have no problem finding the supplies you need at some very large and well stocked grocery stores. In the more rural areas of Baja you will find small mom and pop type stores that are minimally stocked but will have the essentials such as water, beans, rice and lots of canned goods. you will not have a problem unless you spend most of your time on a remote beach somewhere. Enjoy your trip and welcome to Nomads.
Larry

del mar - 1-13-2018 at 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Jorge

Quote: Originally posted by tobias

My understanding is that if your camper is 3/4 ton or over and you have a trump sticker, 32 percent of all perishable goods will be confiscated.

They took papayas from Peru, cucumbers and peppers from Mexico and onions from CA. Ni modo, me vale madre jiji.

"BLAME LAIRD".....damn janitors! :lol:

surabi - 1-13-2018 at 11:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

LOL funny!
As for bugs... they can fly across the border.
I think the bugs that cause severe crop damage (like fruit flies) come from the tropics (ie south). Wasn't it interesting that the one fruit that can carry fruit fly eggs (oranges) was allowed into Mexico?
Don Jorge is the expert on produce growing, so I hope to hear more on all this new regulation from him.

Oh please, fruit flies are everywhere. I had them in my kitchen in Canada in the summer months. And I never bought oranges, don't like them.