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New on Facebook: Baja California Land of Missions GROUP

David K - 1-27-2018 at 11:33 AM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
New URL: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Hi all!
While I have made a Facebook page for those interested in the missions of Baja California and the book I wrote (Baja California Land of Missions www.oldmissions.com ) at www.facebook.com/oldmissions
I was recently advised or requested to create a "Group" page associated with it so viewers could more easily interact with each other or with me about the missions, the book, or travel in Baja California... The Land of Missions!

So, I made the page yesterday, and WillyAirstream was quick to suggest I add mission photos. I guess one does not always see the Facebook page that the group is part of (where there are hundreds of mission photos)?

I have been adding my new (2017) or most recent mission photos to this new page. I have missions #1 (Loreto)-#6 (La Purísima) posted so far.

Here is the new Facebook GROUP page for Baja California Land of Missions/ and The Old Missions of Baja & Alta California + other books from M&E BOOKS... https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/ or
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Please have a look, click the LIKE button, and participate if you want! :light::biggrin:

[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]

Udo - 1-27-2018 at 12:59 PM

This is where BN needs a LIKE button!

David K - 1-27-2018 at 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Udo  
This is where BN needs a LIKE button!


Thanks Udo... there is a Like button on my FB page!

norte - 1-27-2018 at 02:14 PM

After all the badmouthing over the years of Facebook you have finally come around. good for you.

David K - 1-28-2018 at 09:51 AM

Thank you norte for the well wishes. In my defense, I don't think I was badmouthing Facebook as much as I was hoping to find a way for it to work as a traveler's aid to research past trip reports and important posts. I am sorry if my questions sounded like badmouthing. I have had personal and mission book Facebook pages for years.
My mission books have been featured on Facebook since 2012: www.facebook.com/oldmissions and now, there is this group page I just made attached to the OldMissions page so more can interact easily.

The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.

norte - 1-28-2018 at 11:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Thank you norte for the well wishes. In my defense, I don't think I was badmouthing Facebook as much as I was hoping to find a way for it to work as a traveler's aid to research past trip reports and important posts. I am sorry if my questions sounded like badmouthing. I have had personal and mission book Facebook pages for years.
My mission books have been featured on Facebook since 2012: www.facebook.com/oldmissions and now, there is this group page I just made attached to the OldMissions page so more can interact easily.

The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.


No problem David. But surely you are not saying that FACEBOOK has not been an aid to travelers or has important stuff on it. Much like this place, there is the good and the bad Of course when one is trying to sell a book, facebook gives you exposure to a very large audience. But of course since you have been a facebook member for so long you know this. bump for exposure.

David K - 1-28-2018 at 11:54 AM

What I was trying to learn when you think I was badmouthing (I guess) is if Facebook could have a way to easily find trip reports and location details. As it is, anything posted on FB over a few days to months ago (depending how busy the page is) vanishes way way down a page. FB is only good for new or very recent postings. If you know who posted the report or exact words to search, then you may find stuff. Newbies to Baja travel will not know who or what to search, however. I like to help people find the many wonders of Baja in the manner guidebooks and articles helped me in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. Now, we have the Internet, and message boards (which are great) are being phased to Facebook.


willardguy - 1-28-2018 at 12:03 PM

the ability to hide and block.......priceless ;)

rts551 - 1-28-2018 at 12:29 PM

"Phased to Facebook"??? Facebook has been around since 2004 and has over 2 billion users...No phasing necessary except for those who have lagged behind the times. In fact, studies are showing Facebook losing membership to more modern platforms such as Snapchat, Instagram, and heaven forbid, Twitter.

As with most popular pages, the more posting, the more things fall off the page. Not popular, things stay up. As with most things, SEARCH is your friend.

David K - 2-1-2018 at 09:09 AM

An update,
On the new Groups page at Facebook/OldMissions (Baja California Land of Missions book), I have been adding my 2017 or most recent photos of every mission site. As of today, I have the first nine missions (15 sites) posted. A group page is open to the public and allows for easy questions/answers about the mission history, the book, or Baja travel to the missions and other historic sites. Baja is full of them!
Here's the direct link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
Modified link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]

BajaRat - 2-1-2018 at 02:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.





Oh the Fun those natives must have had.............
Where have all the good times gone :cool:

David K - 2-1-2018 at 05:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaRat  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


The old missions are doorways to the past where we can be amazed by the activities undertaken so long ago in such a rugged and far-off land.





Oh the Fun those natives must have had.............
Where have all the good times gone :cool:


Indeed as there are two sides to every story.
However, it is my opinion after reading so much of what was recorded during the mission period, that the Jesuits were much more respectful of the Natives in California. They learned the language, allowed free-movement, and simply exchanged work for food.
The Natives came by the thousands to join the Jesuit missions. Working at the mission or on the Camino Real must have been preferable to what they were able to eat before the missions? In any case, the only hostility seems to have come from the insistence that polygamy be halted and that their religious articles be destroyed (sad). The Pericú Revolt (1734-1736) was partially blamed on these Catholic rules.

The big negative change for the Indians came after the Jesuits were removed from their missions (December 1767) and California was put under Spanish civil control with the Franciscan running the missions (starting in April 1768). The Natives were now treated far differently and made tools of the Spanish government. The Franciscan,s nor the Dominicans who replaced them on the peninsula, seemed at all interested in learning the native languages or honoring local homelands or 'kingdoms' as the Jesuits did.

The Spanish governor had ordered hundreds of Natives to relocate to better farming areas, but well outside their homelands. Death came to all who were moved either from diseases or fighting with the new areas' original Indian tribes.

Facebook is horrible

Gscott - 2-2-2018 at 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
What I was trying to learn when you think I was badmouthing (I guess) is if Facebook could have a way to easily find trip reports and location details. As it is, anything posted on FB over a few days to months ago (depending how busy the page is) vanishes way way down a page. FB is only good for new or very recent postings. If you know who posted the report or exact words to search, then you may find stuff. Newbies to Baja travel will not know who or what to search, however. I like to help people find the many wonders of Baja in the manner guidebooks and articles helped me in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. Now, we have the Internet, and message boards (which are great) are being phased to Facebook.


I agree. Facebook is for chit chat and showing pictures and cute memes. It is pretty worthless for learning. As you said, try to find something on facebook from a month ago, vs finding threads on discussion forums from years ago. There just is no comparison. Facebook is a constant stream of newbie questions, there is no opportunity to search and accumulate knowlege base.

David K - 5-25-2018 at 03:42 PM

I have just added photos and floor plans (1880-2017) of Mission Santo Domingo to the Baja Missions Group Page, please have a look if you like looking back in time: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
Modified link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]

JZ - 5-25-2018 at 06:12 PM

Facebook sucks. Gave that crap up in 2007.

mtgoat666 - 5-25-2018 at 06:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Facebook sucks. Gave that crap up in 2007.



Billions of people dont agree with you!

JZ - 5-25-2018 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Billions of people dont agree with you!


Billions of ppl are very poor.

TMW - 5-25-2018 at 08:43 PM

The Russians like Facebook.

bajatrailrider - 5-25-2018 at 09:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Facebook sucks. Gave that crap up in 2007.



Billions of people dont agree with you!
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David K - 5-26-2018 at 07:18 AM

Missions boys, missions.;)

willyAirstream - 5-28-2018 at 04:10 PM

It is a shame that each mission does not have its own album. It would have made finding stuff very easy.

David K - 5-28-2018 at 05:00 PM

The group page now has 20 Baja missions featured... each one has an 'album' of photos if I am understanding the term. I am happy to create new ways to feature these historic artifacts. Feel free to let me know how to best do that.

Edit: Willy, the albums for each mission are in this Group page... Once you join, it will be easy to see when a new album of mission photos is added!
Here is the link (you posted to it shortly after I created it asking for separate albums for each mission). 20 missions posted so far, some with more than one location, so each location has an album: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/
Modified link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/



[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]

willyAirstream - 5-30-2018 at 07:20 AM

Nope, not there yet. You have only 5 albums on
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/

Look at my page. click photos then albums on left side.
https://www.facebook.com/zgdesign


https://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Photo-Album-on-Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/help/1898942430347350?helpref=uf_pe...
http://www.dummies.com/social-media/facebook/how-to-create-a...


[Edited on 5-30-2018 by willyAirstream]

David K - 5-30-2018 at 09:20 AM

See my post this morning Willy/Richard... I will continue to finish posting the mission photos and data as I have been as there are 20 of the 27 already done. Once that is over (and they are all bumped up now, too), I will make ALBUMS as you suggest for each mission.

I did look at your page, and what I see are Photos on the left... and not Albums, unless you click on Photos, then again click... with a choice of Photos (again), Albums, Videos. Clicking Albums here shows the albums.

Too bad the Albums or a list of Albums cannot appear on the Facebook main page along that left side... or can it?

David K - 7-8-2018 at 09:19 AM

Mission Santo Tomás photos and a brief bit of history added to the Group Discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685520784824763/ or https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/

Did you know that Santo Tomás was moved twice and until 2012 you could see evidence at the three sites?

The second site was destroyed by farming in 2012 (my photos there in 2009 showed that despite planting and irrigation, peppers won't grow on adobe soil... that had to be removed. They probably didn't know (or care) it was a Spanish mission from 1794 to 1799.

The first site (1791-1794), by the camp and picnic area 4 miles west of the highway, has been fenced off and closed, I discovered in 2017. I last visited it in 2011.

The final site (1799-1849) is vanishing, just some bit of wall, outside of the north opening of the El Palomar campground.

[Edited on 12-15-2018 by David K]

David K - 12-15-2018 at 09:05 AM

Created an easier URL link to the page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bajamissions/