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Los Cabos Today, Safer Than Ever

JZ - 7-30-2018 at 04:37 PM

Saw this in my LinkedIn feed today.




[Edited on 7-30-2018 by JZ]

gnukid - 7-30-2018 at 05:57 PM

In the period of 2017 Cabo increased violent crime to 365 murders, or about 1 per day (reported) up 500% from the previous year, for a population of about 330,00 making BCS the most dangerous city in the world with 111 murders per 100,000.
https://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-w...

Violence continued at the same rate into March 2018. Then 5000 federal forces arrived and some remained, while local police protest their presence. http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/se-llego-a-un-acuerdo-entre-polici...

Recently a jefe de plaza of La Paz was arrested.
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/detienen-a-operador-del-grupo-crim...

Today the US State Dept orders a Mexico travel advisory Level 2 urging increased caution when traveling to Cabo and Federal employees are banned from travel to Cabo.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...

So, there was a reduction of official counted murders, though the total amount has not diminished greatly and Baja California and Baja California Sur remain among the most dangerous places in the world for violent crime.

Today, murders are still reported daily as well as bodies and skeletons discovered daily.

So there was a slowdown of reported violence in April, May, June in BCS but not BC. Now it appears that violent crime is continuing at a similar rate as before according to news reports and bodies and skeletons left in arroyos are being discovered, though not yet identified.

Baja (BCS+BC) is a great place, but remains considered one of the most dangerous places in the world for violent crime.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/encuentran-restos-oseos-en-carrete...

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/?s=balazos

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/?s=sin+vida

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/este-domingo-localizaron-a-hombre-...

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/expanding-mexico-...


rts551 - 7-30-2018 at 06:14 PM

The tourist bureau and hotels will do anything to keep the tourists coming.

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/destinations/los-cabos-is-a...

SFandH - 7-30-2018 at 06:33 PM

From the link
https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/expanding-mexico-...
that gnukid provided:

"According to the Justice in Mexico report, the violence in Baja California Sur is one of the many ripples in the criminal landscape generated by the arrest and extradition of Sinaloa Cartel kingpin Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán.

Two competing factions, one led by Guzmán’s sons and another by an influential lieutenant named Dámaso López, alias “Licenciado,” have fought to take over the organization following El Chapo’s demise, with neither side achieving success. This has fueled violence across the expanse of territory the Sinaloa Cartel has dominated, including Baja California Sur.

López’s clique has persisted even after his arrest in May 2017. It also sought support from the Jalisco Cartel New Generation (Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación – CJNG), which has emerged as one of the largest organizations in the country over the past several years. This has served to aggravate the challenges, as the group’s gunmen have inundated Baja California Sur and its northern neighbor, Baja California."

JZ - 7-30-2018 at 06:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
In the period of 2017 Cabo increased violent crime to 365 murders, or about 1 per day (reported) up 500% from the previous year, for a population of about 330,00 making BCS the most dangerous city in the world with 111 murders per 100,000.
https://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-w...

Violence continued at the same rate into March 2018. Then 5000 federal forces arrived and some remained, while local police protest their presence. http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/se-llego-a-un-acuerdo-entre-polici...

Recently a jefe de plaza of La Paz was arrested.
http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/detienen-a-operador-del-grupo-crim...

Today the US State Dept orders a Mexico travel advisory Level 2 urging increased caution when traveling to Cabo and Federal employees are banned from travel to Cabo.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...

So, there was a reduction of official counted murders, though the total amount has not diminished greatly and Baja California and Baja California Sur remain among the most dangerous places in the world for violent crime.

Today, murders are still reported daily as well as bodies and skeletons discovered daily.

So there was a slowdown of reported violence in April, May, June in BCS but not BC. Now it appears that violent crime is continuing at a similar rate as before according to news reports and bodies and skeletons left in arroyos are being discovered, though not yet identified.

Baja (BCS+BC) is a great place, but remains considered one of the most dangerous places in the world for violent crime.

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/encuentran-restos-oseos-en-carrete...

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/?s=balazos

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/?s=sin+vida

http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/este-domingo-localizaron-a-hombre-...

https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/expanding-mexico-...




I'm not saying it's not a little sketchy right now.

But that is just a terrible post. Do you have that queued up in a word doc and just run around posting it in every thread on this topic. Because no way you took the time to type all that out.

Either way, that was just horrible and sad.



[Edited on 7-31-2018 by JZ]

woody with a view - 7-30-2018 at 07:47 PM

They stood united. Not sure with whom but I’m impressed.

advrider - 7-30-2018 at 08:09 PM

I'll still go, I could die of cancer or some ass bite on his cell phone could run me down tomorrow! I'll take Baja!

[Edited on 7-31-2018 by advrider]

Terry28 - 7-30-2018 at 08:28 PM

Your not in Kansas anymore...……..

JoeJustJoe - 7-30-2018 at 08:43 PM

Los Cabos, is extremely safe, don't let the fear mongers, alarmists, and scaredy cats, scare you from taking a vacation to Los Cabos, and really any place else in Baja.

Many people know that most of the homicides in Mexico are up to 90% drug related, and I would guess the other 5% involved another vice, or the victims did something very stupid that contributed to their own demise. Maybe another small percentage of tourists, were killed randomly, or had an accident. ( actually getting hit by a car has a good percentage)

Also do not fall for the BS where some fear mongering article ranks the most dangerous cities in the world by using only homicides per 100,000, because that's only one scale. If you want to do that, some of the other more objective ranking use about 15 or more different danger scales to come out with a so-called "danger" level of similar sized cities.

Of course it's a little bit alarming seeing one city with 10 deaths per 100,000 compared to 100 deaths per 100,000. But it can also be very misleading if one of those cities were small like Rosarito, that doesn't count the number of undocumented Americans, living in that city, and Rosarito, has a very small population, and so homocides per 100,000 could really be skewed by a bad weekend because the city is so small to begin with.

I would like to ask, if anybody really trust a scale of deaths per 100,000 and then walk down a street late at night in South Central LA, that's part of Los Angeles, and therefore has a very low homicide rate, vs walking by the Marina in Los Cabos, that has a higher homocide rate per 100,000 because the rating considers the whole area of Baja California Sur.
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They have a plan.

Los Cabos is Safer Than Ever

Cabo San Lucas is a destination that takes safety and security very seriously.

Rodrigo Esponda, managing director of the Los Cabos Tourism Board, wants to make sure consumers and trade professionals far and wide understand that message.

"We have a comprehensive plan to make sure Los Cabos remains a safe place to visit," Esponda said during an in-depth interview with TravelPulse. "We understand there are many concerns when people travel. Los Cabos is a beautiful place with desert, mountains and the ocean. The value of the product we have is superior to many other places. But we must make sure Los Cabos is a safe place to keep visiting, as it has been."

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/destinations/los-cabos-is-s...

Lee - 7-30-2018 at 09:33 PM

'Baja (BCS+BC) is a great place, but remains considered one of the most dangerous places in the world for violent crime.''

Most dangerous place compared to ___________?

Baja. Not for everyone.

Ask shari if she's scared in Cabo.

Great food, great shopping, great people. I love Cabo.

gnukid - 7-31-2018 at 06:23 AM

According to the data, Baja is the most dangerous place in the world, but certainly many places do not report civilian crime properly, Baja included.

How is it possible Baja is more dangerous than Iraq, Afghanistan, or no go zones in other cities? It is the most dangerous in the world according to the data.

Personally I am just trying to process all this, over the past few years things got much worse, I have heard and seen so many shootouts, seen people get shot by sicarios on the same street, seen bodies on the side road and there have been disappearances. We are numb and go about day when weapons fire nearby.

Everyone I know is aware and still go to Baja with children and wives and they laugh and laugh out loud when I say it's dangerous, except of course Federal worker friends who are banned from visiting, which is too bad since they want to visit too. No one seems to care about the issues since it doesn't affect us directly, except the threat of getting your camp stuff stolen and cars broken into, ripped off by service providers or poisoned by bad drinks. There are days when people get killed who no one thought was involved and yet they are targeted?

Baja is much more dangerous and more corrupt than most of us are really aware but it is a beautiful place, with truly great people and most of us here will go and enjoy the beautiful beaches and have good times. Point: It is important to be realistic and be aware and take precautions.

It seems people in Baja are very perceptive of who is a bad person and who is a good person, and are incredibly intuitive, kind and brave.

JoeJustJoe - 7-31-2018 at 08:21 AM

According to the survey, of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, it comes from the NGO,( non-governmental organization) "Citizen Council for Public and Criminal Security, in Mexico city.

This think tank, does this survey/ranking every year, and it appears the ranking is only based on only one category, homicides per 100,000 where Los Cabos, had 111 deaths per 100,000 in 2017 and no doubt this popular tourist destination was under counted and skewed because of the amount of tourists who visit this vacation spot daily, and the city's small size compared to real big cities like Mexico City.

We know nothing about the "Citizen Council of Public and Criminal Security, and this matters because NGO/think tanks, are often notorious for being political, right or left wing, and are often funded by deep pocket groups with an agenda.

We also don't know how this think tank, arrived at their rankings, because it sure looks like they used one category and that's homicides per 100,000 which does a good job of selling headlines, but is hardy accurate because it's only looking at one category.

If you're going to sit there fearing, and scared about taking a vacation to Los Cabos, you should also avoid St Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, and New Orleans, because those cities in the US also made the most dangerous cities in the world list, and that would be a shame because New Orleans, is a great vacation spot, like Cabo, although it does have some places I would avoid in that city.
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It's absurd to claim Los Cabos, the most dangerous city in the world!
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Los Cabos, the most dangerous city in the world 2017

Reporter: EFE
Los Cabos, in Baja California Sur, was registered in 2017 as the most violent city in the world, with Caracas second and Acapulco third, according to information divulged in Mexico.

"With a rate of 111.33 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, in 2017 Los Cabos was the most violent city in the world, included for the first time in these rankings", indicated the Citizens Council for Public Security and Penal Justice.

In its annual list, was indicated with a slightly lower rate of 111.19 the second placed Caracas, capital of Venezuela, followed by Acapulco with a rate of 106.63. The report indicated that, based on its classification, that it had been determined that there has been a "rapid and pronounced decrease" in homicides in cities of Honduras.

read the rest here:

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/03/los-cabos-most-dangero...

also look here at the breakdown of each of the cities making the list:

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-w...

[Edited on 7-31-2018 by JoeJustJoe]

Alm - 7-31-2018 at 11:44 AM

Source in the post #1 has all the signs of a commercial advertising.

redmercury - 7-31-2018 at 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

This think tank, does this survey/ranking every year, and it appears the ranking is only based on only one category, homicides per 100,000 where Los Cabos, had 111 deaths per 100,000 in 2017 and no doubt this popular tourist destination was under counted and skewed


If no tourists were killed in Los Cabos, then the homicide rates reflect that of the resident population. So, that is a fair depiction. Cities in the USA do not adjust their homicide rates for their transient tourist population either. Nothing is skewed. Tourists are ignored in all the computations, and many US cities have a far greater transient tourist flow.

Also homicide rates are based upon a full-time population over the entire year. If, for example, 2 million people visit Los Cabos each year for a one week vacation, you would have to divide that by 52 weeks. That would only increase the equivalent full-time population of Los Cabos by 38,000 people. Not enough to even make a dent in the homicide rate.

JoeJustJoe - 7-31-2018 at 12:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by redmercury  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

This think tank, does this survey/ranking every year, and it appears the ranking is only based on only one category, homicides per 100,000 where Los Cabos, had 111 deaths per 100,000 in 2017 and no doubt this popular tourist destination was under counted and skewed


If no tourists were killed in Los Cabos, then the homicide rates reflect that of the resident population. So, that is a fair depiction. Cities in the USA do not adjust their homicide rates for their transient tourist population either. Nothing is skewed. Tourists are ignored in all the computations, and many US cities have a far greater transient tourist flow.

Also homicide rates are based upon a full-time population over the entire year. If, for example, 2 million people visit Los Cabos each year for a one week vacation, you would have to divide that by 52 weeks. That would only increase the equivalent full-time population of Los Cabos by 38,000 people. Not enough to even make a dent in the homicide rate.


Nice try Red, but Los Cabos, only has population of 300,000 according to the survey, and I'm reading last year Los Cabos, had more than 2.1 million visitors, yet none of those margarita drinking tourists are being counted in the survey that lists the 50 most dangerous cities in the world.

Then again, maybe the tourist shouldn't be counted because they really aren't in danger while staying in those $300 dollars rooms in the beach resort town on Los Cabos.

I don't think most people consider Los Cabos, the most dangerous city in the world. It's actually funny to me to hear that, and it just goes to show you how statistics could skew data, especially when working with small numbers.( 300,000 population for Los Cabos, is a small number compared with cities with 3 million people)

There is no way Los Cabos, should be compared to Caracas, Venezuela, a major city of the world with a population of 3,000,000 people.

If anything they should compare cities with a population of 1 million or more people to get a fair representation of an apple to apple comparison.

Hey Red Mercury, don't we know each other? It's rare that I will talk to a new member with only 20 posts.

Here is the link that shows how many foreign toursts visit Los Cabos:

Last year, Los Cabos had more than 2.1 million visitors, 75 percent of them international travelers and the majority of those from the United States, said Rodrigo Esponda, the managing director of the Los Cabos Tourism Board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/16/world/americas/los-cabos-...



[Edited on 7-31-2018 by JoeJustJoe]

JoeJustJoe - 7-31-2018 at 01:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
According to the data, Baja is the most dangerous place in the world, but certainly many places do not report civilian crime properly, Baja included.

How is it possible Baja is more dangerous than Iraq, Afghanistan, or no go zones in other cities? It is the most dangerous in the world according to the data.



It's very easy to see how Baja can seem more dangerous than Iraq, or Afghanistan, it's because the ranking does not count deaths in combat zones.

So what's left if most of those death in Iraq, or Afghanistan are caused by war?

Again, it's an unfair attack on Baja by making the claim that Iraq, or Afghanistan, is less dangerous than Baja, when they are not counting all the deaths in combat zones.

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The ranking contains cities with populations of more than 300,000 and does not count deaths in combat zones or cities with unavailable data, so some dangerous cities don't appear on the list

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-violent-cities-in-the-w...

Bubba - 8-1-2018 at 02:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Source in the post #1 has all the signs of a commercial advertising.


Winner!

MMc - 8-1-2018 at 02:42 PM

I tell people "If you don't feel safe going to Baja, don't go!"
I will not let others decide what I should fear and where I should go based on those fears. I will be there next week and for a week next month.

JZ - 8-1-2018 at 02:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bubba  
Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Source in the post #1 has all the signs of a commercial advertising.


Winner!


Winner?? You'd have to be dead and buried in the ground to not know that. Why you think it's an enlighten comment that deserves such excitement, well, that escapes me.

AKgringo - 8-1-2018 at 03:06 PM

I wonder if the Danger, dange! reporter was influenced in any way by a terrible time share deal that they bought into in Cabo?

On a serious note, I acknowledge there is a real possibility of bad things happening, but the odds are very slim that it will happen on any typical tourist adventure.

I don't spend any time there anymore, but that is not based on fear. It is too big, and busy for me. I prefer places that are more remote, or more like Cabo used to be in the 80s!

rts551 - 8-1-2018 at 04:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by Bubba  
Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Source in the post #1 has all the signs of a commercial advertising.


Winner!


Winner?? You'd have to be dead and buried in the ground to not know that. Why you think it's an enlighten comment that deserves such excitement, well, that escapes me.



I don't think anyone is telling anyone else what to fear...But it is downright stupid not to know what is going on at your destination.

gnukid - 8-1-2018 at 04:40 PM

Yesterday there were 3 targeted executions attempts in Cabo and an attempted mutiny of prisoners in the jail in La Paz plus blocked roads to Bahia Ensenada de Los muertos because of fisherman protesting inspections or something. Some fisherman were blaming the us ban on imported fish from gill net fishing for increased inspections. Baja is always an adventure, just be aware of your surroundings and be careful.

JoeJustJoe - 8-1-2018 at 05:06 PM

Instead of being scared of shark attacks, and cartel turf wars, that do not involve American tourists. Be scare of the cheeseburger, and coronary disease, that is a much much bigger threat to your life.
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I'm glad to see most tourists to Mexico, aren't listening to the "alarmists" who want the tourists to be very afraid of Mexico, while the "alarmists" have no problem living in Mexico.
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In Mexico, the murders keep coming, and so do the tourists

CABO SAN LUCAS, Mexico — To understand why violence in Mexico isn't scaring tourists away from beaches, consider the cheeseburger. And then shark attacks.

"Shark attacks are very rare, but they're spectacularly big and scary; scares the living wits out of you," explained David Shirk, director of justice in Mexico and security expert at the University of San Diego. "But very few people are afraid of cheeseburgers even though coronary disease is among the top causes of deaths worldwide."

As summer vacation formally gets under way with start of Memorial Day weekend, Shirk's analogy helps explain the state of Mexico's tourism industry. Despite bloody headlines from some of the favorite tourist destinations for Americans — from Cancun to Los Cabos — the industry continues to grow, in part, because tourists are almost never the targets.

read the rest here:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/mexico/2018/05/24/mexico-mur...

JZ - 8-1-2018 at 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551  


I don't think anyone is telling anyone else what to fear...But it is downright stupid not to know what is going on at your destination.



I don't disagree. That wasn't what that post was about.

bajatrailrider - 8-1-2018 at 06:10 PM

Don't worry about your destination as the world is not a safe place. All you can do as go on living hope your not at the wrong place. When I turn on the tube its all bad any where in the world.

blackwolfmt - 8-1-2018 at 06:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Don't worry about your destination as the world is not a safe place. All you can do as go on living hope your not at the wrong place. When I turn on the tube its all bad any where in the world.

WORD:cool:

pacificobob - 8-3-2018 at 06:12 PM

"""making BCS the most dangerous city in the world"""
note to self. stay clear of that city.

Alm - 8-4-2018 at 11:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Instead of being scared of shark attacks, and cartel turf wars, that do not involve American tourists. Be scare of the cheeseburger, and coronary disease

Cartel turf wars do involve tourists as casualties, though rarely.

Drug-related robberies and murders involve all Mexican society, they don't care who you are.

Property crimes - closely related to drug industry - are rampant, tourists and expats are more likely to become victims than locals because they either have more, or are less aware of their surroundings.

Ads like in the post #1 are typically written by tourism promoters and present a skewed picture. They are somewhat relevant to tourists living in all-inclusive resorts and are less relevant to permanent and seasonal expats.

JoeJustJoe - 8-4-2018 at 11:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Instead of being scared of shark attacks, and cartel turf wars, that do not involve American tourists. Be scare of the cheeseburger, and coronary disease


1.Cartel turf wars do involve tourists as casualties, though rarely.

2. Drug-related robberies and murders involve all Mexican society, they don't care who you are.

3.Property crimes - closely related to drug industry - are rampant, tourists and expats are more likely to become victims than locals because they either have more, or are less aware of their surroundings.

4.Ads like in the post #1 are typically written by tourism promoters and present a skewed picture. They are somewhat relevant to tourists living in all-inclusive resorts and are less relevant to permanent and seasonal expats.


number 1. Agree.

number 2. Pure BS, if you're involved in the drug trade you chances of becoming a homicide victim goes through the roof, and if you're not involved trade, especially if you'r'e middle class or rich, your chances of dying a violent death are very slim.

number 3. More BS, do you have any statistics, news articles, or something that shows tourists and ex-pats are at greater risk of becoming victims than locals, or did you just make this up?

number 4. The ad is of course promoting Baja, because of all the fear mongering going on in the US about Mexico, so the Mexico tourism department, has to spend money to counter the alarmists and Baja forum members trying to scare tourists from vacationing in Mexico, using the mantra, "be scared, be very scared in Mexico!"

However, basically the ad is fairly accurate especially in regards to what the US State dept says, about Baja Sur California:

"Exercise Increased Caution,"

However, the US State Department also says very specifically:

There are no U.S. government restrictions for travel in Baja California Sur, which includes the tourist areas of Cabo San Lucas, San Jose del Cabo, and La Paz.


BajaTed - 8-4-2018 at 11:52 AM


mexiconewsdaily.com/news/airlines-report-slowdown-in-passenger-growth/

Cancun is also covered in seaweed now too along with bad booze.

Alm - 8-4-2018 at 12:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  

number 2. Pure BS, if you're involved in the drug trade ...

number 3. More BS, do you have any statistics, news articles,


number 2 - a misquote here. Was said "drug-related", not "if you are involved in drug trade".

number 2 - think. Tourists and expats have more and are less aware of their surroundings. Providing articles would be productive when there is a chance that they will be read and understood. In this instance I don't see this happening, no offense.

chuckie - 8-4-2018 at 12:49 PM

AND! From that pillar of wisdom, JJJ , always be SCARE of the cheeseburger....

JoeJustJoe - 8-4-2018 at 01:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
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number 2 - a misquote here. Was said "drug-related", not "if you are involved in drug trade".

number 2 - think. Tourists and expats have more and are less aware of their surroundings. Providing articles would be productive when there is a chance that they will be read and understood. In this instance I don't see this happening, no offense.


I don't think there are too many Americans around that haven't heard that Mexico, has cartel killings, or that Mexico have corrupt cops, that sometimes takes bribes.

So please people stop with the " we must warn American tourists of the dangers of Mexico."

THEY HAVE ALREADY HEARD IT IN SPADES!!!!!!

The ones who are most scare to visit Mexico, are those that never been to Mexico, or rarely if ever visit Mexico.

Alm, in other words, you have no documented evidence that foreign tourists, are in increase dangers when visiting Mexico, compared to the local Mexican population, who BTW, carry cash/peso, instead of all the credit cards Americans carry.

According to Forbes, who put out a real negative articles towards American traveling to Mexico, even they admit in 2016 that there were only 75 American homicide victims in 2016, compared to 31 American tourists. I don't know about you, but I would take those odds.

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From Forbes:

"More than 31 million Americans visited Mexico in 2016, the National Travel & Tourism Office says, and State Department data shows there were reports of 75 American homicide victims there. In comparison, 49 million Americans traveled to all other foreign countries, and 69 were reported killed by homicide".

Do the math with a mortality rate calculator, and see what your chances are of dying in Mexico by homcide:

https://www.easycalculation.com/medical/annual-mortality-rat...

JoeJustJoe - 8-4-2018 at 01:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
AND! From that pillar of wisdom, JJJ , always be SCARE of the cheeseburger....


Yes, cheeseburgers, and clogged clogged arteries, are the real dangers to your lives, not only in Mexico, but any place you eat, if you really want to put things in perceptive.

Mexico Mike, lists other leading cause of tourist deaths in Mexico, and instead of worrying about Mexican cartels, I would worry about having an auto accident in Mexico, or crossing the street as a pedestrian.
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From Mexico Mike:

In 2015 the leading cause of tourist deaths in Mexico was auto accidents (3,104). Next was drowning (355), then suicide (228). Homicide for the last decade usually accounts for about 92 deaths a year. Drug-related deaths (by using or overdosing) were 59. Deaths from all causes were 8.87 per 1,000,000 (that is one million) visitors. Source: Time.com. (If you reduced that to the commonly-used statistical standard of 100,000, it's only 0.887 per 100,000). That seems like a lot, no? If it is you or a loved one included in that statistic, it is terrible. But to put it into persecutive, that is about 0.84 per capita (of tourists, not nationals). Source: PriceEcomonmics. In 2017 the FBI reported that the homicide rate was 6.8 per 100,000. .In 2015 it was 5.3. In 2014 it was was 4.5 per 100,000 You still are more likely to get struck by lightning (1 in 3,000 lifetime) in the USA than to be murdered in Mexico. Source: National Geographic

https://www.mexicomike.com/safety/safety-UsStateDepartment.h...

chuckie - 8-4-2018 at 02:00 PM

Went right over his Turban , eh? So don't be scare to visit Mexico...Keep everything in perceptive...

JoeJustJoe - 8-4-2018 at 02:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
Went right over his Turban , eh? So don't be scare to visit Mexico...Keep everything in perceptive...


When in doubt go racist on Sikhs.