Shame on you Antonio

Boycott shaming.....

You say that YOU made your wife wait....and was your contribution to his "empire" a bano deposit?

A monetary donation at the motel office would have been simple....buying gas isn't a donation....it's just business....

[Edited on 8-22-2018 by motoged]

Email from Antonio

Wanting the facts, as always...

I copied the post and emailed it to Antonio so he could reply. He is so busy not only with all the things he does in El Rosario but his dad, Antonio Sr., is in the hospital...

Dear David,

Thank you for the heads up. I am the hospital right now attending to m Dad. He is not doing very well due to his kidney cancer.

I will respond to BajaNomad as soon as I get back home.

Just a quick comment, Weebray is right, but I cannot provide what I do not have. The water well in town dried out and I have been getting a little bit from the local farmers, just enough to keep the motel open, but unfortunately not enough for the gas station restrooms.

What Weebray saw is the little water we are comply by law to keep as reserve for fuel spills and/or any emergencies.

We have been struggling with this water problem for a few months now, but it got worst a couple of months ago. I am already taking measures to solve it though.

I will explain all these and more on the BajaNomad site.

I need t get back to my Dad... thanks Bro.

Hugs to you and Liz!!!

Antonio

Antonio is such an honorable and kind person, I wish you all could meet him and appreciate what he does for everyone. Our grief goes out for his father in his final days...



Antonio (BajaCactus) and Antonio Sr at jrbaja's place in 2004 when we met them.

Kudos and Complaints

If the bathroom is closed, I have noticed a lot of wide desert along that highway - you can pull off most anywhere and have lots of privacy to do your business

Water the cactus and wave at the lookie-loos when the stare as they pass. Facing the road of course!

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

If the bathroom is closed, I have noticed a lot of wide desert along that highway - you can pull off most anywhere and have lots of privacy to do your business

Sanitario Searching

Antonio is a class act

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan

Quote: Originally posted by norte   Its just as easy to visit the Los Pinos station or now the new one in Catavina. Competition is good, right? there is a new gas station in catavina? I must have been napping

Quote: Originally posted by Email from Antonio

The water well in town dried out............

Quote: Originally posted by norte

Its just as easy to visit the Los Pinos station or now the new one in Catavina. Competition is good, right?

Support Pinos/Rodriguez

Quote: Originally posted by 55steve

Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan   Quote: Originally posted by norte   Its just as easy to visit the Los Pinos station or now the new one in Catavina. Competition is good, right? there is a new gas station in catavina? I must have been napping Yes, another Los Pinos station - with a great market as well.

Catavina station was not close to opening six weeks ago
and the store did not sell cerveza

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Quote: Originally posted by Email from Antonio   The water well in town dried out............ That sounds like a major problem for Antonio and the rest of El Rosario. I wonder what the town is going to do.

This looks like a job for the Bumper Dumper.

"Take a little wild out of the wilderness"




http://bumperdumper.com

Prepared

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

Just stopped at your gas station in El Rosario. We waited specifically to support you and your rescue operation. I made my handicapped wife wait to her discomfort. The bathrooms were closed with a sign that there was no water. That was a boldfaced LIE (una mentira). There was plenty of water at the mop area tap. Baja California, like much of the world, has a water problem. You are not unique. If you run a gas station and take peoples money to support your empire you have a responsibility to have an open and clean restroom. That's just the way it is my friend. We will not be stopping in the future. I would like to suggest others may want to do (not do) the same.

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

Just stopped at your gas station in El Rosario. We waited specifically to support you and your rescue operation. I made my handicapped wife wait to her discomfort. The bathrooms were closed with a sign that there was no water. That was a boldfaced LIE (una mentira). There was plenty of water at the mop area tap. Baja California, like much of the world, has a water problem. You are not unique. If you run a gas station and take peoples money to support your empire you have a responsibility to have an open and clean restroom. That's just the way it is my friend. We will not be stopping in the future. I would like to suggest others may want to do (not do) the same.

Quote: Originally posted by DavidT

This looks like a job for the Bumper Dumper. "Take a little wild out of the wilderness" http://bumperdumper.com

Water supply in El Rosario...

Dear friends,

My apologies to Weebray and anyone else who have stopped at our Gas Station and has been inconvenienced with the lack of restrooms facilities due to the water shortage our town is going thru right now.

Allow me to elaborate:

-- El Rosario has no Public Water Utilities Services (Water, sewage). The solution has been Local Committees formed by the community. The water well that supply our area serves around 600 users. There has always been a lack of coordination and stability in these Committees.

-- The water well that serves our area is 150 feet deep. It was 100' but last year dried out and they made it 50' deeper. However, it ran out of water again.

-- The studies show that the underground water can now be found at 200 feet, however for some technical difficulties they cannot dig deeper in the current well, it seems we need to relocate the well to another area, along with the electric services.

-- The new well relocation cost is around $ 40,000 USD... and here relies the problem. There is no Government aid, all has to be done by the community. Work has already being done to raise that money among the 600 users. You can of course understand the difficulty to coordinate all of them.

-- In the meantime, our area has been having deprived of this resource for almost 10 months now. For the last 2-3 months things have been worst.

-- Thankfully, BajaCactus has been receiving help from local farmers who have their own well. We have been hauling water daily (very expensive) with a Water Tender, as much as we can get our hand on, however it has been just enough to keep our Motel open... unfortunately not sufficient to have the Gas Station restrooms open, which by the way, uses much more water than the motel on a daily basis.

-- In the gas station we are required, by law and regulations, to always have a short supply of water available for fuel spills and/or any kind of emergencies. This is the water Weebray saw as "plenty of water".

Now, the problem is that even when they are able to make a new well and re-start the water services, we will still rely on the "local committee" administrative work to keep it going, and the solidarity and the coordination of the so called 600 users. I have come to realize it is not good enough, I cannot control what the community decides to do... or not to do.

So... last month I started the long process to request the Government for a permit to have our own water well at BajaCactus. I had not done this before because it is a very long and tedious process (natural water resource is very well guarded by our Government) and there is no guarantee to be approved. Besides things have been working in the past, not perfect, but enough to get by.

-- So, I started this process and this past weekend a Geological Survey was done in our property... water was found at 330 feet (aprox).

They told us we should have an answer from the Goverment in the next 6-9 months. If we are approved, and we are able to make a water well, we should eliminate this problem for good.

In the meantime, I am strongly supporting (pushing) the Community in whatever they need to have the work done to make the new well functional as soon as possible.

As you can see, it is very difficult to me to provide what we do not have, and most importantly, what I cannot get. Nevertheless my Staff at the Gas Station have direct instructions to, at their discretion, offer to any customer at the Gas Station, the use our facilities at the Motel, where we do have some water. You just need to ask.

This is not an issue that will be resolved quickly, nor is a matter that we can control.

A final thought... there are no water meters in businesses and/or homes in El Rosario. When the water services are fully operational, we all pay a fixed monthly fee, no matter how much water we use, under these conditions, what would be the point to deny the restrooms services to anyone?... What would I gain as a business?... On the contrary, having clean, fully functional restroom services is on our interest since it draws more customers... and they leave relieved and happy ...

By the way... Weebray made me realize I have to be more aggressive in finding a quick/temporary solution, so today I instructed my Supervisor to find if there are any Portable Restrooms companies in the area willing to rent us a couple to have at the Gas Station. I know it will be very expensive because of the distance from San Quintin and that it will not be a pretty solution, but it could be a solution after all.

Again, my apologies to anyone who has been affected by this, it is not intentional... I will keep doing my best effort to solve it as soon as possible... and my deepest Thanks to everyone who have been supporting the Desert Hawks, thanks to you all, is currently the only Active Emergency Rescue Service south of Ensenada.

Happy trails everyone!!!

Antonio Muñoz
BajaCactus



[Edited on 8-23-2018 by BajaCactus]

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

You are not unique. If you run a gas station and take peoples money to support your empire you have a responsibility to have an open and clean restroom. That's just the way it is my friend. We will not be stopping in the future. I would like to suggest others may want to do (not do) the same.

Digging it

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

400 feet is a fair distance which would be expensive up here. I imagine the costs are less in Mexico

Well said Antonio.

All's well that ends well. No pun intended.
Maybe OP can change post title to something like "i pulled in and could not understand WTF was going on but now i do"? or not.

For every problem there is a solution .




http://somethinbizarre.blogspot.com/2010/10/chinas-wonderful...

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

Consider me castigated. The more vitriolic posts, from the usual suspects, I ignore. The rational responses are appreciated. Antonio's answer was also constructive in putting more light on the issue. I would like to add a few notes to clarify my motivation in the first place. The sign said there was NO water, that was simply not true and it bothered me that someone was filling the mop bucket right under the sign. Next door the dirt was being watered. I asked for a key for what I considered an urgent need. The cashier said she did not have one. OK, I went up to the office - they also said they did not have a key. Oh sure! Later, at the motel, we observed a contractor's pick-up filling up 11(eleven) 5 gal. containers from the hose in the parking lot. I assume they were guests at the motel. An employee was washing down the walkway. I would like to humbly suggest having a key available with the bathrooms well marked as to the water shortage. You could even turn off the sink taps. You may have an employee stress the water shortage when handing out the key. Attach the key to an EMPTY water bottle. Using the bathroom while stopping for gas is a time honored tradition. My bad for assuming that what I remembered was a nice place to be as it always was. Boycott is not what I was suggesting and my post was poorly worded. I am suggesting that you make other plans if you count on a bathroom when you stop. To all you cowboys that prefer to water the cholla you may be interested to hear that the old Mexico you knew in 1970 is changing. If you're not interested in changing with it so be it. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn.

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

+JZ

Quote: Originally posted by CJ

++++JZ Defiantly a Snowflake

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Chasing the water deeper will create more storage capacity in a well, but probably not for long as the water table continues to drop.

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by weebray   Consider me castigated. The more vitriolic posts, from the usual suspects, I ignore. The rational responses are appreciated. Antonio's answer was also constructive in putting more light on the issue. I would like to add a few notes to clarify my motivation in the first place. The sign said there was NO water, that was simply not true and it bothered me that someone was filling the mop bucket right under the sign. Next door the dirt was being watered. I asked for a key for what I considered an urgent need. The cashier said she did not have one. OK, I went up to the office - they also said they did not have a key. Oh sure! Later, at the motel, we observed a contractor's pick-up filling up 11(eleven) 5 gal. containers from the hose in the parking lot. I assume they were guests at the motel. An employee was washing down the walkway. I would like to humbly suggest having a key available with the bathrooms well marked as to the water shortage. You could even turn off the sink taps. You may have an employee stress the water shortage when handing out the key. Attach the key to an EMPTY water bottle. Using the bathroom while stopping for gas is a time honored tradition. My bad for assuming that what I remembered was a nice place to be as it always was. Boycott is not what I was suggesting and my post was poorly worded. I am suggesting that you make other plans if you count on a bathroom when you stop. To all you cowboys that prefer to water the cholla you may be interested to hear that the old Mexico you knew in 1970 is changing. If you're not interested in changing with it so be it. Frankly my dear I don't give a damn. No one cares.

And no one cares what a$$-wipe jizz thinks!

jeez, chuckie...... I thought you were disagreeing with the turdbird.

I rescind my previse post. Who gives a chit what Jizzy sez or thinks too.

[Edited on 8-24-2018 by bajabuddha]

Some of us get it, Chuck

I stayed at the motel (as I do when coming down that way) one time and left my wallet at the front counter when checking out....before getting gas. I was unaware of the misplacement....and while pumping gas, Antonio's father came up to me with my wallet....

His alertness saved me an extended panic attack.....

They have my business and respect.

well at least Antonio must listen....go back five years and listen to the mostly negative hotel reviews by prominent nomads, of course with the exception of you know who so Antonio has made strides and I sure hope this water issue gets better....pray for lots of rain!

and interestingly enough, notice who authored the thread!

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=66274#pid8020...

Quote: Originally posted by BajaCactus

Nevertheless my Staff at the Gas Station have direct instructions to, at their discretion, offer to any customer at the Gas Station, the use our facilities at the Motel, where we do have some water. You just need to ask.

In follow-up posts, it seems this notation by Antonio has been overlooked. It's always been my understanding that Nomads (or perhaps anyone who asks) is invited to use the hotel's lobby bathroom. It's right next to the desk, small but convenient, clean, and incredibly appreciated. Hope you appreciate it as well, and kindly leave it as clean for the next person.

At hand on all trips.

Portable restrooms...

Portable restrooms now available... It is not an elegant solution... And expensive... But nonetheless a solution.

And as mentioned, the restroom at the Motel Frontdesk has been always available as well.

Thank you everyone for your understanding and support.

Antonio Muñoz
BajaCactus

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

Weebray wins! Sad.

That's Progress, I Guess

Quote: Originally posted by Marc

At hand on all trips.

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

When I get so incontinenent and immobile that I resort to Depends and peeing in Gatorade bottles, I think I will give up travel and hire a nurse/butler and stay home and drink whiskey and c-cktails all day

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

Weebray wins! Sad.

Progress

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

I agree, my post was rude and "limbaugheske". (note to self: do not write when upset or angry) Few chose to overlook the mistakes in form. One of the few that was thoughtful enough to actually think about the post was Antonio. I commend him for his quick response.

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

Since I don't hover over the computer waiting to make some "clever" vilification of a contributor it may take awhile for my response. I won't mention any names but ** you epitomize the exact kind of usless ant pod that sits by his computer waiting to jump in with nothing to say. Speak to the issue, state your opinion, otherwise keep it in your pants.

Quote: Originally posted by weebray

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe   Weebray wins! Sad. Sad but true Joe. Sad that most of the responders to my post spent so much time and energy trying to skewer the messenger. A familiar pattern on this forum. A few suggested my post was too abrupt and made unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, my post was rude and "limbaugheske". (note to self: do not write when upset or angry) Few chose to overlook the mistakes in form. One of the few that was thoughtful enough to actually think about the post was Antonio. I commend him for his quick response.

Joe, can you read English???

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

Quote: Originally posted by weebray   Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe   Weebray wins! Sad. Sad but true Joe. Sad that most of the responders to my post spent so much time and energy trying to skewer the messenger. A familiar pattern on this forum. A few suggested my post was too abrupt and made unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, my post was rude and "limbaugheske". (note to self: do not write when upset or angry) Few chose to overlook the mistakes in form. One of the few that was thoughtful enough to actually think about the post was Antonio. I commend him for his quick response. Yes you win Weebray, and while I don't agree with you, and see you like somebody in restaurant yelling at the poor waitress for burnt toast. ( no one needs to eat a restaurants mistake, but you don't have to be rude about it) You are entitled to your opinion, and I don't see where anybody changed your mind about about the gas station and the closed bathroom. The bottom line is the gas station didn't meet your expectations, and you're entitled to leave your bad review. I think David K, is wrong for demanding you to change the title of this thread you started, and admit you are wrong. Who is David K. the final arbitrator? I think if anything, you made the gas station in El Rosario, more popular than ever, and it seems most think, Antonio is a class act, and he takes customer service and customer complaints seriously.

A Lot of Crap over taking a Crap ?

Well, now it is a bunch of crap

Liked the discussion more when it was focused on "water"

A very important topic for most all ... in one way or another, and there is a fixed amount when talking about a closed system which is called in this case ... the Hydrosphere

"On earth, the total amount of water has almost certainly not changed since geological times: what we had then we still have. Water can be polluted, abused, and misused but it is neither created nor destroyed, it only migrates. There is no evidence that water vapor escapes into space."[5]:26"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrosphere

there are many other sources for information on the Hydrosphere ... I just used Wiki

http://www.pnas.org

for greater detail ... with peer review

and don't be too hard on farmers ... they are doing the best they can ... under the circumstances IMO

https://www.southwestfarmpress.com/grains/fifty-years-brings...

a bit dated ... but still holds true for most in production of food and fiber


[Edited on 8-29-2018 by wessongroup]

I think we had a "water discussion" going elsewhere

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy

Too bad the op didn't just go to Antonio in the first place instead of opening this can of worms.

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy   Too bad the op didn't just go to Antonio in the first place instead of opening this can of worms. Maybe he wanted to publicly shame Antonio. There's a lot of that going on around here.