BajaNomad - El Chapo’s trial

El Chapo’s trial

mtgoat666 - 1-15-2019 at 08:32 PM

The interesting news today...

“A former close personal aide to Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman testified Tuesday that the drug kingpin once paid a $100 million bribe to former Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto.”

Did Nieto keep it all for himself, or did he have to share it amongst his cabal? One wonders,....

[Edited on 1-16-2019 by mtgoat666]

Bubba - 1-16-2019 at 12:16 AM

100 Million. Chump change.

motoged - 1-16-2019 at 08:39 AM

What's in your wallet ... ? :biggrin:

BajaRat - 1-16-2019 at 12:42 PM

Who's in your pocket???

chuckie - 1-16-2019 at 12:51 PM

pesos ?

JoeJustJoe - 1-16-2019 at 02:10 PM

Lets just troll the tread seems to be the party line here.

We haven't heard from the former, Mexican President, but he has denied these kind of allegations in the past and will no doubt deny them again.

If the allegations are true, shouldn't Guzman be entitled to a refund?

A $100 million bribe should leave a paper trail that would not be hard to follow.

This is another reason why we need our President to release his tax returns and always show transparency, so he is not subject to bribery attempts.

For years in these trials of Mexican cartel members in the US, they have often also claimed the DEA and other US Government officials, along with Mexican officials, have made deals with the Sinaloa drug cartel, to favor them over all the other Mexican cartels.

Gunkid, often posts about these kind of conspiracy theories, and it's often true, where there is smoke there is also fire.

chuckie - 1-16-2019 at 05:25 PM

Ja! Das ist ein Lichtensteiner Polka, Mine shatz! etc etc etc....SOSDD

joerover - 1-16-2019 at 06:31 PM

"Dea si vende mas cociana de las criminales"
Colombian federal police.

Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman
works for the Central Intelligence Agency.
I asked him in person on december 20 2012. He faked his own death a couple of days later, in Carmelita Guatemala. While he was dying in a fake gun battle, someone robbed his house in Sayaxche Guatemala.

In the old days, cocaine was transported by air and guarded by 50 Marines. That did not work out because, The Marines sometimes look in the boxes, and then dump the cocaine in the river. The Navy did not work out either, to much lost cargo. 10,000 pounds at a time, lost without a trace.

So the cocaine import agency had to hire chopo.000

Trump hates cocaine, because they gave it to his daugther.
Hillary loves cocaine and wants to trash our country so she can sit on a velvet pillow.
George Bush jr, within one hour of taking office, ordered the US Coast Guard to stop searching for drugs and only look for terrorists, they found none. Obama did not correct this, Trump did.

How ar up the chain of command does the crime spree go?

[Edited on 1-17-2019 by joerover]

Bubba - 1-17-2019 at 06:38 AM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-president-took-100-mln-dr...

JoeJustJoe - 1-17-2019 at 08:32 AM

Bubba, the Goat, had already posted the headline, and I bet most of us seen the full articles.

The question is the allegation true? What's your opinion Bubba? Do you have an independent thought on it?

In Mexico, according to a NY Times article, Mexicans woke up with a a big yawn over this story, because they are more worried about putting gas in their cars, and not so concerned over things they can't' control.

Many Mexicans, believe the story could be true, because there is impunity with some Mexican officials like the President, and high level drug dealers, however, on the other hand, they also know these kind of protected witnesses can say anything if it will personally help them.

If you Bubba, believe a rat witness with his own shady history, do you also believe Michael Cohen, the fixer lawyer, turned rat against your President in the USA, or do you think Cohen, is saying all those things to save his hide?

I already seen the headline Bubba, but I want to hear from you and what your opinion is.

Quote: Originally posted by Bubba

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-president-took-100-mln-dr...

motoged - 1-17-2019 at 10:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by joerover

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... works for the Central Intelligence Agency.
I asked him in person on december 20 2012.

[Edited on 1-17-2019 by joerover]

Just being curious: what were the circumstances in which you had this opportunity ?

John Harper - 1-17-2019 at 10:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Quote: Originally posted by joerover

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... works for the Central Intelligence Agency.
I asked him in person on december 20 2012.

[Edited on 1-17-2019 by joerover]

Just being curious: what were the circumstances in which you had this opportunity ?

I remember when I met with "M" at the MI6 headquarters in London a few years ago. James Bond was on vacation, so I had a temporary "00" designation.

John

Read the whole story- then decide

thebajarunner - 1-17-2019 at 11:00 AM

Not exactly the most reliable source as to the allegation
Maybe time to take a deep breath and wait for the real story......

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/world/americas/el-chapo-b...

JoeJustJoe - 1-17-2019 at 11:47 AM

What else are we learning about El Chapo's trial?

Some of this we knew before, for example, as Hillary Clinton, said, America has an insatiable demand for illegal drugs.

We also know Latin America, is tired of America sticking it's big fat finger at them, and blaming Latin American countries for the flow of drugs, when the US does very little on it's side except jail drug dealers, while doing almost nothing about the underlying cause of drug addiction in the USA. Very little money is spent of treating drug addiction in the US.

We know for sure that a wall doesn't work for illegal drugs, because drugs could be thrown over or put under the wall, and in fact most drugs come right through the port of entrance, hidden in secret compartments or on big rig trucks. Some US officials are corrupt and take bribes, so expect bribery to get worse on the US side if any long wall is built.
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Highlights from the article:

The Sinaloa cartel didn't become the world's biggest supplier of illicit drugs by coincidence. It has flourished because the United States is the world's biggest consumer of illicit drugs. Mexican cartels serve Americans' "insatiable demand for illegal drugs," as Hillary Clinton once said.
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Kelly added that Latin American countries chide American authorities for "lecturing [them] about not doing enough to stop the drug flow" while the U.S. does nothing to "stop the demand."
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A high-tech border fence constructed in Arizona long before Trump's inauguration has proven virtually useless in stopping drugs from crossing into the U.S.: Mexican smugglers just use a catapult to fling hundred-pound bales of marijuana over to the American side.
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Officials have discovered about 180 cleverly disguised illicit passages under the U.S.-Mexico border.
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Corruption is not an exclusively Mexican trait. Over the past decade some 200 employees and contractors from the Department of Homeland Security have accepted nearly $15 million in bribes to look the other way as drugs were smuggled across the border into the United States, The New York Times has reported.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-chapo-trial-shows-why-a-wall...

[Edited on 1-17-2019 by JoeJustJoe]

Bubba - 1-17-2019 at 01:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe

Bubba, the Goat, had already posted the headline, and I bet most of us seen the full articles.

The question is the allegation true? What's your opinion Bubba? Do you have an independent thought on it?

In Mexico, according to a NY Times article, Mexicans woke up with a a big yawn over this story, because they are more worried about putting gas in their cars, and not so concerned over things they can't' control.

Many Mexicans, believe the story could be true, because there is impunity with some Mexican officials like the President, and high level drug dealers, however, on the other hand, they also know these kind of protected witnesses can say anything if it will personally help them.

If you Bubba, believe a rat witness with his own shady history, do you also believe Michael Cohen, the fixer lawyer, turned rat against your President in the USA, or do you think Cohen, is saying all those things to save his hide?

I already seen the headline Bubba, but I want to hear from you and what your opinion is.

Quote: Originally posted by Bubba

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexican-president-took-100-mln-dr...

You're not content until you get a thread deleted, locked or moved with your nonsense.

motoged - 1-17-2019 at 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bubba

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You're not content until you get a thread deleted, locked or moved with your nonsense.

Hmmmm, seems like you are the guy that gets pleasure from that.... :lol:

joerover - 1-21-2019 at 10:25 AM

How much does that stuff cost?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-chapo-trial-shows-why-a-wall...
Retail prices per gram of cocaine are even higher, reflecting the addition of even more middlemen: $82 in the U.S. in 2016 and $400 in Australia.

motoged - 1-21-2019 at 10:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Quote: Originally posted by joerover

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... works for the Central Intelligence Agency.
I asked him in person on december 20 2012.

[Edited on 1-17-2019 by joerover]

Just being curious: what were the circumstances in which you had this opportunity ?

JR,
Still curious about that opportunity....do you care to answer the question?

joerover - 2-13-2019 at 08:23 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47218887

to little to late