BajaNomad - shooting and rioting in San Felipe

shooting and rioting in San Felipe

PaulW - 3-28-2019 at 02:13 PM

Violence in San Felipe.
Video 1 maybe N of town. I see familiar surroundings
2nd video is at the new navy base just N of the marina.
https://www.lavozdelafrontera.com.mx/policiaca/video-se-enfr...

PaulW - 3-28-2019 at 02:49 PM

Here are videos from facebook. I hope you can view them.
https://www.facebook.com/sunshine.rodriguezpena/videos/22995...
Takes place on the street just N of the marina showing the new navy base in the back ground. Lots of gun shots and smoke. If you speak Spanish it would be good.
No police presence, but several helicopters.

Another video
https://www.facebook.com/MedranoTV/videos/267295507549372/
Shown where the pangas were confiscated and burned
Location is the Marina
Another video
https://www.facebook.com/lacronicacom/videos/807473552952314...
Noted the navy go fast boats on fire.

KasloKid - 3-28-2019 at 03:01 PM

write up with Bing translator:

Thursday, March 28, 2019

VIDEO They face sailors and Totoaberos in San Felipe

They Wound one and they stop 4

Dulce María Díaz

A clash between elements of the Marine Secretariat and alleged traffickers of totoaba this Thursday morning in the port of San Felipe left an injured person as balance.

Through social networks, a video was known to indicate that a person had been injured by a firearm by navy officers in an altercation between a possible criminal group.

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In the images, one can see in the box of a black pick up that it brought in the back pulling a small boat, the bloodied body of a person who according to declarations of fishermen is known in the port like "Kiki", which was attacked with the pair Ecer by Marines.

Police Cancel classes for confrontation in San Felipe

In The video are glimpsed about 6 elements of the SEMAr that were aboard the unit number 200424 that were bet on the street Posada del Mar, who after the aggression moved to their facilities along with the confiscated vehicle and where they moved to the P Person injured.

"They Killed Kiki, killed Kiki, an ambulance," were the cries that were heard from the people there were, where they also perceived gunshots apparently caused by the uniformed, who leaving the scene were followed by the Enraged companions to the facilities naval sector of San Felipe.

Women Injured during confrontation in San Felipe

Enrique García Zandez, aged 35, is the fisherman who was injured in this event, which was transferred to the facilities of the General Hospital of Mexicali for his professional medical care.

Sunshine Rodriguez, fishing leader of the port, presented several videos on their social networks in which a cluster of sea men gathered outside the naval facilities derived from this fact, where an Antiriot group guarded the entrance and dozens of People armed with stones, asking for justice.

"This is the beginning of what they were told to unleash, they would confront the people and the needs of St. Philip, they don't have to use force, they don't have to use guns, fishermen are not criminals."

Hook - 3-28-2019 at 03:18 PM

I have friends staying in their place in the South Campos area (Bahia Santa Maria). They tried to go into San Felipe this morning but were turned back at a road block. No one allowed in to San Felipe, at least from the south on Hwy 5.

No word on who was manning the roadblock. Cell service very sketchy down there, south of town.

David K - 3-28-2019 at 05:45 PM

Funny, but Mary (from Playa Mexico) drove to town today and posted a photo (South Campos Amigos Facebook page) of the black smoke from the harbor area. She must have just made it in or was there before the action?
Someone else on FB from San Felipe said it's all over, just like nothing happened... move along... lol.

mtgoat666 - 3-28-2019 at 05:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Funny, but Mary (from Playa Mexico) drove to town today and posted a photo (South Campos Amigos Facebook page) of the black smoke from the harbor area. She must have just made it in or was there before the action?
Someone else on FB from San Felipe said it's all over, just like nothing happened... move along... lol.

Someone died, not so sure it’s the funny lol you find it to be...

Hook - 3-28-2019 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Someone else on FB from San Felipe said it's all over, just like nothing happened... move along... lol.

Are you quoting or paraphrasing from this FB site, David? How about providing us with a link?

[Edited on 3-29-2019 by Hook]

grace59 - 3-28-2019 at 07:09 PM

Sadly, the Fisherman shot this morning has died from his injuries. A video posted to Facebook by one of the locals I know shows calm not at least along the Malecon. Not sure what will happen now that there has been a death. The black smoke has died down and dissipated. It's a sad day here in San Felipe.

David K - 3-28-2019 at 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Hook

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Someone else on FB from San Felipe said it's all over, just like nothing happened... move along... lol.

Are you quoting or paraphrasing from this FB site, David? How about providing us with a link?

[Edited on 3-29-2019 by Hook]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sanfelipechatter/
See top post from Hilda Bahena and read the replies... this was one of a couple from this person that said about the same thing:

Cecilia R Duclos IT was a shooting due to fishermen-navy confrontation, fishermen burned some boats at the Marina and trowed rocks at the navy base, is done, nothing to do with the town in general. The fishermen were requesting for the navy soldier that had wounded the fisherman earlier so they can bring them to justice... in general the town pretty mucho Is quiet again, so no worries and come down and enjoy your weekend

jDOG - 3-28-2019 at 08:02 PM

Fisherman :lol:

They are a bunch of meth head crimms.

freediverbrian - 3-28-2019 at 08:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

Quote: Originally posted by jDOG

Fisherman

They are a bunch of meth head crimms.

Pangaros are a hard working people that have made their living form the sea for years . A honable trade for generations but unfortunately is changing and the pains of change are being felt thruout Baja . You are an idiot for saying they are all " meth heads" Not to excuse violence but I hope a cooler heads will previl.

willardguy - 3-28-2019 at 08:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

Quote: Originally posted by jDOG

Fisherman

They are a bunch of meth head crimms.

I would have loved to hear what Chi Chi thought of all this.......

chuckie - 3-28-2019 at 09:29 PM

JDOG must be about 12 years old..

norte - 3-28-2019 at 09:52 PM

This is how clueless some people are about this issue...Taken from the same post he posted. ==============================Post by David Kier " John Devine sad when fishermen want to fish, is it? I thought it was foreign boats catching totuava for China's market demands, not locals? Did Mexican government pay out fair compensation so they didn't need to fish to eat and live during this "environmental crisis"? Do we have all the details?"

norte - 3-28-2019 at 09:54 PM

This might be one clue as to what is really going on...Also taken from San Felipe Chatter.... ...
https://www.infonort.news/2019/03/denuncia-carlos-loret-de-m...

mtgoat666 - 3-28-2019 at 09:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte

This is how clueless some people are about this issue...Taken from the same post he posted. ==============================Post by David Kier " John Devine sad when fishermen want to fish, is it? I thought it was foreign boats catching totuava for China's market demands, not locals? Did Mexican government pay out fair compensation so they didn't need to fish to eat and live during this "environmental crisis"? Do we have all the details?"

Ignorance is bliss, and he is a very happy fellow!

BajaNomad - 3-29-2019 at 12:23 AM

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mtgoat666 - 3-29-2019 at 06:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad

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Spring break!

Marina details

PaulW - 3-29-2019 at 07:30 AM

Marina area showing the layout
Boats burned include those of the fisherman and those of the navy.
As in interesting aside across from the new navy base the last week. the navy put up tents for housing for the guards protecting the new go-fast boats that arrived in a recent period. Those boats were still on the trailers and were not ready for operation. They were all burned.
I cannot find the location where the confiscated fishermen boats were stored. Pretty sure is was nearby. Fortunately, many of those boats were drug away from the fires that consumed the other ones.
Other fishermen boats were burned, one on the navy ramp and unknown others just east of the new navy base. It is all shown on the videos I posted. Yup, long videos.

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chuckie - 3-29-2019 at 07:36 AM

Why is tragedy funny to you? LOL...Why do you bring politics into everything ? LOL Why are you now pushing Facebook after badmouthing it for so long?LOL...This post is reply to DK not prior poster SORRY

[Edited on 3-29-2019 by chuckie]

Hook - 3-29-2019 at 07:47 AM

I am not finding any confirmation that the fisherman who was shot was killed. Navy is saying that it was an accidental discharge of a weapon in the course of a physical struggle. But the articles I have seen (mostly mainland, of course) are saying that the shooting only resulted in injuries. Naturally, this is going through a translator, too.

David K - 3-29-2019 at 07:56 AM

Chuckie, first Hook then the norte/goat duo asked about or mentioned Facebook posts... I did not initiate Facebook conversation but I will try to help travelers get the facts if I can. The only funny part is the irony on how simple news gets exploited or dramatized. Hope you have a great day, sunny and will be in the 70s in SoCal today.

PaulW - 3-29-2019 at 08:11 AM

Several posts on San Felipe and Baja Facebook said the fisherman nicknamed "Kiki" passed away after arrival at the hospital. I just searched and cannot Find those messages. For sure he was shot and was in pretty bad shape based on the videos.
The Internet is always correct - right.

Quote: Originally posted by Hook

I am not finding any confirmation that the fisherman who was shot was killed. Navy is saying that it was an accidental discharge of a weapon in the course of a physical struggle. But the articles I have seen (mostly mainland, of course) are saying that the shooting only resulted in injuries. Naturally, this is going through a translator, too.

norte - 3-29-2019 at 08:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie

Why is tragedy funny to you? LOL...Why do you bring politics into everything ? LOL Why are you now pushing Facebook after badmouthing it for so long?LOL...This post is reply to DK not prior poster SORRY

[Edited on 3-29-2019 by chuckie]

Politics...you have to ask? David is all over Facebook now...He loves to give advice on the San Felipe pages. He also has a multitude of his own pages...Maybe he is getting ready to convert and jump ship?????

chuckie - 3-29-2019 at 08:35 AM

Count your blessings! LOL

azucena - 3-29-2019 at 08:55 AM

Anyone know if 5 is now open?

Today news - No deaths

PaulW - 3-29-2019 at 09:02 AM

Log on to La Cronica to see the images
Here is the text.
La Cronica By: Nicolle De León | 03/29/2019 6:44
MEXICALI, Baja California (GH)
The family of the fisherman who received multiple bullets, demanded the authorities to do justice, accusing that they had already had conflicts with the elements of the Secretariat of the Navy (Semar), who were taking away their tools to fish.

José Demetrio Soberanes Sández, brother of Enrique García Sández, explained that his morning started in the worst way, when he was informed of the conflict in which Enrique had practically killed Enrique himself.

"They shot my brother, the Navy ran around and started shooting him because he did not stop," Soberanes explained, while waiting for information about Enrique's health condition at the General Hospital of Mexicali (HGM). He said that the attack took place on the mainland, on a highway at around 8:30 am, when García and his fishermen colleagues moved to the sea to carry out their work day. "They made the stop, they gave him, they hit the cars, and they started firing; he came behind the car, he came with four or five more people, "explained the also fisherman from San Felipe. Demetrio commented that that is the routine of him and his brother, they were going to fish "Chano", nevertheless already there had been conflicts with the authorities, who took away their networks whenever they could.

"They were fishing well, they were just going to work, to fish 'Chano', it is the normal routine every day they did it," he said. "Yes there were conflicts with the Navy, from outside in the sea they wanted to remove the hammocks, every day is the same, they take away the hammocks, they do not let us work," he argued.

"They talked to me and told me I was in the hospital, but there were videos, everything is recorded," the fisherman said with a look of concern for his brother's health.

He recalled that after the incident, he was stabilized in San Felipe, the wounds were on one arm, one leg, and a scratch on the head. He mentioned that from that moment, the atmosphere was raging in San Felipe, and that it was apparently that more detonations were triggered that wounded two other people from the port. "It's a lot of chaos, we want justice to be done," he demanded.

In addition, he pointed out that Enrique García is a fisherman by profession for 15 years, and a father of a family.

SERIOUS WOUND
On the fisherman Enrique García Sández, the medical reports explain that he has a wound on the scalp, another bullet wound on the left forearm, a fracture due to another bullet wound in the right leg and loss of surrounding tissue. After being transferred from San Felipe to the General Hospital of Mexicali (HGM), he underwent a compressive treatment and volume restitution through solutions, the fisherman was operated in the operating room. The second injured is the minor Ricardo Zúñiga, 17, who presented multiple bullet wounds, who stabilized in San Felipe and transferred to hospital 30 of the IMSS in Mexicali.

A woman of the third age was a collateral victim of the confrontation, Rosa María Zaragoza González, 65 years old. The lady presented a type of red spot lesion (superficial wound) in the abdomen below the umbilicus, covering an area of six by two centimeters. She was treated in the San Felipe unit without having to travel to Mexicali.

The health status of Enrique García is serious, however the health experts said that he was being operated in the operating room after noon. According to the information provided to this medium until the end of the edition, Enrique García, has a reserved prognosis for the damage of his injuries, to the Emergency Department of the HGM, his family went to await a clinical diagnosis, including his wife, brother and cousins.

Second report
La Cronicia By: Saul D.Martinez | 03/29/2019 6:37
MEXICALI, Baja California (GH)
A dozen shots broke the silence of dawn. In the box of a pickup truck, on Gulf of California Avenue, a fisherman was seriously wounded. "They killed the Kiki," a man shouted as he held a phone with which he recorded a video.

All this happened after a chase that occurred after a boat belonging to "Sea Shepherd" , was attacked by fishermen from a boat trying to recover prohibited fishing gear that the Navy followed, and try to escape, according to information from the military institution.

The Marína via communication reported that during this meeting, the alleged offenders of the law opposed resistance and there were struggles with the naval personnel, with the unfortunate result of an accidental firing of a firearm that caused injuries to a person. Regarding the Health Centers, it was reported that a teenager and a 65-year-old woman were also treated.

THE VERSIONS
The report to the emergency numbers was received at 07:52. The elements of the Navy, aboard the unit with number 200424, allegedly persecuted the fishermen and even interposed them at the pass. The fishermen's truck hit them by reach.

The shots had already been executed before the collision. The sailors came down with the rifles and were rebuked by the fishermen, the fishermen point out. Other fishermen arrived at the site in their vans and the sailors, without giving an answer, tried to return to their patrol to leave. One of the elements was retained by two fishermen, but with the detonation to the ground of the rifle of one of his companions they let him go, it is seen in a video.

Although the fishermen tried to prevent them from setting up in front of the unit, the elements made their way and fled the place, pursued by fishermen on Puerto Vallarta street.

Enrique García Sandez, 37, was the injured fisherman who was in the pickup box. After being injured by the sailors, the truck arrived at the IMSS clinic, located on Avenida Mar de Cortez Sur.

After a few minutes, the clinic staff gave him first aid. Preliminarily it was said that he had a bullet wound in the skull, another in the left forearm and another bullet wound in the right leg, at the level of the femur.

The medical center began to surround itself with police, ministerial and elements of the Navy. Soon other injured people began to arrive, including a 17-year-old teenager named Ricardo Zúñiga.

A 65-year-old woman, identified as Rosa María Zaragoza González, who was in the street at the time of the shooting, was treated in San Felipe for a bullet in the belly, while the other two fishermen were transferred to Mexicali.

After a few minutes, fishermen began to demonstrate outside the clinic. Others were on their way to the dock, where minutes later the fire started. The fishermen allegedly were two kilometers north of San Felipe fishing "chano", when they were chased away by the detonations of the rifle of a Navy element aboard the Sea Shepherd vessel.

When they returned to land, a Navy patrol intercepted them, but they ignored it and did not stop. After this, the shooting occurred. At least this is the preliminary version of the fishermen that could be known, through the leader of fishermen, Sunshine Antonio Rodríguez Peña. PROTESTS

Dozens of fishermen and residents of San Felipe moved to the Naval Sector of San Felipe, after the injured received first aid at the IMSS clinic and their departure to Mexicali was scheduled. On the outskirts of the Naval Sector, fishermen and angered Protestants began to ask for explanations for what happened, but also asked to be handed over to the four elements involved in the aggression.

Several elements of the Navy in riot gear prevented them from entering. Suddenly, the stones began to fall.

There was not a single vehicle parked on the outskirts of the barracks that did not suffer from severe material damage, even one of them was completely burned. While the fishermen threw stones, they were returned by the sailors from inside the barracks.

The confrontation ended when a representative of the Navy spoke with the fishing leaders in the place. By then, more than twenty vehicles had been affected.

ON FIRE
The column of black smoke was visible for miles before arriving in San Felipe. In the dock of this port, dozens of boats were prey of the fire that had ignited fishermen inflamed by what happened this Thursday morning. For almost an hour, the fishermen demolished the perimeter fence of cyclonic mesh in which were boats of the Federal Attorney's Office for Environmental Protection (Profepa) and other pangas seized in recent months.

Several vans with trailers arrived at the site and the fishermen started taking out the insured boats and took them away. Also in the boats of the Profepa there was rapine by some of the demonstrators.

The flames consumed 98% of what was in this property, before the distant eyes of the elements of the Navy and municipal police that only limited to maintain an idle presence.

It was not until one o'clock in the afternoon that the fire chief of Mexicali, Gabriel Gómez Ruiz, arrived and spoke with some of the demonstrators, so that they allowed two fire engines and a cistern to approach the fire.

By then, the fishermen, some with gill nets, pangas, engines, parts of boats, among others, had already left the dock.

CALM OF ANIMALS
Fishing leaders managed to enter the facilities of the Naval Search and Rescue Station (ENSAR), where they spoke with naval commanders about what happened on Thursday morning. According to Sunshine Antonio Rodríguez Peña, the authorities undertook to resolve the issue and bring the elements involved to justice, if the results of the investigations so warranted.

At the doors of the ENSAR, one of his colleagues threw a dozen percussed shells that allegedly fired the Navy elements against him. Rodríguez Peña said that they expect the Ministry of the Navy to inform them of the results of this investigation and to act in accordance with the Law.

These events occur less than a week after the legal fishermen decided to leave the sea again, breaking a ban of almost 4 years, and two days before the president of Mexico, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, will visit San Luis Río Colorado, where He promised support to fishermen.

FISHERMEN AGREED TO RECOVER NETWORK: SECRETARIAT OF MARINA
"The Secretariat of the Navy Navy of Mexico informs the public, that today in San Felipe, Baja California, the vessel" Sharpie ", belonging to" Sea Shepherd ", was attacked by fishermen of a boat that was trying to recover prohibited fishing gear, which had been raised in the protected area of the vaquita marina by the "Sharpie".

Then, after recovering their nets, the fishing vessel fled to San Felipe. In view of this, and within the framework of the "Comprehensive Program for the Care of the Upper Gulf of California", this Institution deployed an Intercepting Patrol and Marine Infantry personnel in the number one fishing camp in San Felipe, where fishermen's personnel arrived at board of the aggressor vessel, which was towed by a vehicle with the intention of fleeing.

Before this, naval personnel made maneuvers of dissuasion to try to insure the vehicle with the boat and arrest the alleged offenders, however, during these actions a vehicle of this Institution was impacted.

It should be noted that, during this meeting, the alleged offenders of the law opposed resistance and there were struggles with the naval personnel, with the unfortunate result of an accidental firing of a firearm that caused injuries to a person, which caused a greater concentration of people who attacked the naval elements, who withdrew to avoid a confrontation.

After these events, the group of people concentrated in the vicinity of the naval facilities, to demonstrate violently, throwing objects and Molotov c-cktails, causing damage to various buildings of the Semar and the burning of a vehicle and two smaller boats.

Also, there is information that other people were injured in the demonstration. It should be noted that the competent authority has been given a hearing, who will carry out the corresponding investigations, in order to define responsibilities, always adhering to the law.

This Secretariat will collaborate in everything necessary with the authorities responsible for providing justice in our country, with the conviction that, under no circumstances, this institution justifies conduct contrary to the Law and Human Rights, so that in case of accreditation will be sanctioned by the corresponding instances according to their severity ".

Enrique2012 - 3-29-2019 at 11:25 AM

What troubling times these are when a poacher of endangered species, who sets navy boats on fire and throws rocks at navy personnel, can be shot!

Just kidding! I wish more of them had been shot and their pangas sunk in deep water.

fishbuck - 3-29-2019 at 11:27 AM

This is a very graffic and classic example of what we here in the States call a:

"A Mexican Standoff"

Update for wounded

PaulW - 4-10-2019 at 05:55 AM

Out of coma fisherman shot by sailors

Presents Improvement Enrique García Flarn, who received two bullet impacts on the head, one on the arm and another shot in the leg

Mexicali - the wounded fisherman by elements of the Marina Secretariat came out of the coma and his state of health evolves favourably, reported the leader of the fishermen in San Felipe, Sunshine Rodriguez Peña.

On March 28, Enrique García Flarn received two bullet impacts on the head, one on his arm and another shot in the leg, detailed the former President of the federation of fishermen of the port of San Felipe.

He explained that medical care is carried out by members of the secretariat of Marina, as well as the expenses that are being generated in the private hospital to which they moved to the patient.

Rodriguez Peña said that although the fisherman has not been discharged, he is already recovering but must continue in specialized studies, because it was not possible to remove the bullet shrapnel he received.

Also, the leader of the fishermen reported that the other two people gunshot wounds were compensated by the same marina due to the damage caused.

Neither the fisherman who remains hospitalized or others who were the day of the altercation with the sailors, have an arrest warrant against him or have been arrested, assured Rodriguez Peña.

" he is aware already, recognizes the whole family, I repeat, it is a miracle the truth, that being the bullets and wounds in the head, the person for the moment does not see that he has had loss of memory, he is still doing Studies to see if it's going to have sequels ", referred to the fisherman.
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