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Over staying FMM

filetnrelease - 4-8-2019 at 03:21 PM

Has anyone over stayed their tourist visa? We would like to stay an extra week if we knew how to go about it.

bajabuddha - 4-8-2019 at 03:27 PM

I've done it at least a few times as Baja is tough to leave sometimes. Thing is, just don't get in hot water after it expires. To me it was just a 'little white lie' for a couple more weeks in paradise.
:coolup:

filetnrelease - 4-8-2019 at 03:32 PM

So it is wise to ask for an extra week before it expires. What's a good example of a little white lie? Do you know what the fine is?

baja Steve - 4-8-2019 at 04:28 PM

I ran into a couple a few years ago that over stayed. On the way home they were in an auto wreck and found out that because had expired visa there auto insurance was void. I didn't know them but that is what they told me.

bajabuddha - 4-8-2019 at 04:39 PM

All's I can say is, take the risk.

Or not.

No juevos, no Gloria.

filetnrelease - 4-8-2019 at 07:04 PM

We've been coming to Eastcape area for 25 yrs. Flying now. Just don't want to go home to snow just yet.

bajabuddha - 4-8-2019 at 07:33 PM

Good choice.

BTW, love your handle....... born on trout rivers; I catch and release. On the desert rivers for channel cats, I fillet and release. Luv it.

Once guiding a trip I treated my peeps to some blackened catfish; when I ''filleted and released" verbally, one very urban guest said, "Is it going to be all right??" ..... fish on!

BajaMama - 4-9-2019 at 09:33 AM

Quote: Originally posted by filetnrelease  
We've been coming to Eastcape area for 25 yrs. Flying now. Just don't want to go home to snow just yet.


If you are flying home, immigration will definitely know you overstayed because you have turn the FMM in (if flying to the USA from Mexico). I have no idea what the consequences are.

BajaMama - 4-9-2019 at 09:36 AM

Here is a somewhat recent article that is pretty reflective of how things "might" work out for you!

https://www.mylatinlife.com/blog/2017/12/2/what-happens-over...

filetnrelease - 4-9-2019 at 10:19 AM

Great article!! Thank you for going the extra mile for an answer

sancho - 4-9-2019 at 11:26 AM

Never read nor had any confirmation that an expired fmm
has affected Mex Auto Ins., to me that doesn't mean it
is not a possibility. Quoting US based Mex Ins. brokers on
the ultimate resolution of a claim is putting too much faith
in them. Having overwhelming confidence in a Mex Ins. Co.
doesn't make sense. To give an Ins. Co. the legal right to
deny a claim is exhibiting poor judgement. Staking that
much belief on posts on BN is not something I would do

JoeJustJoe - 4-9-2019 at 01:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by baja Steve  
I ran into a couple a few years ago that over stayed. On the way home they were in an auto wreck and found out that because had expired visa there auto insurance was void. I didn't know them but that is what they told me.


This story is pretty much a persistent urban myth that's all over Baja sites,and Group Facebook sites, that if you don't have a FMM and you get in an auto accident, that your auto policy is somehow invalidated.

It has been repeated so much that most people believe it a fact.

Nothing against Baja Steve, because he is just repeating something he heard, but if you were to question those who said it. Their story would probably start falling apart when you get into the details, like explain in detail what exactly happened to them, did the police lock them up, and make them pay for the accident before they were let out of jail, and were they later deported for being a so-called illegal American in Mexico?

Sometimes you are better off believing the opposite of what you're told on "Baja sites" because there are lots of wrong information and urban myths going around

vandenberg - 4-9-2019 at 02:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by filetnrelease  
We've been coming to Eastcape area for 25 yrs. Flying now. Just don't want to go home to snow just yet.


I would go to the consulate in Cabo, explain, and see what they will do.

bajaguy - 4-9-2019 at 03:00 PM

How is the "Consulate" going to help them regarding a Mexican Immigration document??
Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg  

I would go to the consulate in Cabo, explain, and see what they will do.

David K - 4-9-2019 at 03:08 PM

INM offices (Mexican immigration) is where the FMM is issued and they are located at the border crossings, international airports, and ports.

In recent years, the INM officers at ports (Ensenada, for example) will only issue cards to those arriving by boat. The flying FMM is also different than the one for land travelers.

Renewing or extending one may be an exception at these places? I am surprised that the airline gave you a return flight that was after the 180 days?

Alm - 4-9-2019 at 08:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by filetnrelease  
So it is wise to ask for an extra week before it expires.

Probably not, because such a request would be a waste of time.

What you can do instead, is to pay fine before leaving, when and where you fly out from. I haven't heard of any extensions over 180 days. May be they exist in exceptional circumstances like illness or other accident - or they could waive the fine then.

[Edited on 4-10-2019 by Alm]

pacificobob - 4-11-2019 at 04:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
How is the "Consulate" going to help them regarding a Mexican Immigration document??


Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg  

I would go to the consulate in Cabo, explain, and see what they will do.


i'll tell you what they will do. they will say "what the hell are you doing here. this is a US government facility, go talk to the mexicans" ever been to a US consulate in another country? here is a clue, they don't give a ssheet about you. perhaps they will take your children from you and put them in chainlink kennels aka summer camps. oh wait , wrong country.
i have been with folks who have overstayed. there is usually a provision for a cash "fine" paid on the spot.

[Edited on 4-11-2019 by pacificobob]